Stupid, boring, predictable Perry

[fred_journeyman]

I'm not implying that this isn't a valid topic because anything that anyone wants to talk about is valid, and this isn't meant as a response to anyone's post in this thread. I just really don't understand the point of this conversation.

Steve is not actively involved in the performance of Journey music, but is a major part of the success of the catalog that they've been touring on for all these years and the continuing promotion of that catalog. That's why he did the UJB thing and the Q&A. That's all they were really about. I was hoping he would tell us he's working on new music, but that wasn't the case. He doesn't owe me that, I just want it, but I'm not going to stop loving what he has done or rag on him for what he does say just because he doesn't say exactly what I want him to. I enjoyed some of the personal insights that came through in some of the things he said.

He hasn't done anything controversial lately that relates to Journey, but the band has. He has nothing to answer for, but the band does. Why would we expect as much from him in that regard as we do from Journey? It seems that yet again some try to deflect the any criticizm of the current band by throwing it back at Perry when he's been out of the band for 10 years now.

I love what JSS can do for Journey now, and will always love Perry for what he did then and is still bringing to us through the remasters and such. No need for comparison or childish tit for tat BS. IMO

Well said.

[ohsherrie]

Well said.

Thanks.

[Jeremey fan forever]

Steve Perry is a vocal god, fuck you all.

[Granny]

Steve Perry is a vocal god, fuck you all.

AGREED.....

[donnaplease]

OK, I'm gonna add my 2 cents to this penny jar...

As a self-professed "loon", it appears to me that there are lots of people out here dogging Steve Perry every chance they get for what he does or doesn't do, but whenever anyone tries to defend those attacks, they are labeled as fanatical dipshits. Everyone has the right to express their opinions, on both the music and the man, but some of this shit is just outta hand. I'm not even suggesting to 'agree to disagree', just to respect what contribution SP gave to the history of Journey, and respect other people's views of it. We all have different tastes in music, and Journey's music has probably touched us all in our own unique ways.

The bottom line is this, and you can agree or disagree, approve or tell me to fuck off...the music that we continue to listen to, and the music that Journey continues to play every time they step on stage (whether on stage with JSS or Steve Augeri) was made famous by the Journey that was fronted by Steve Perry. When we hear that music, I think we all are just a little reminiscent of THAT Journey. You cannot separate the two. You can't be mad at him for sitting on his ass doing nothing, and then sit back and make fun of him and say he can't sing. You're trying to have it both ways, and I don't buy it. It's a no-win situation for him, whatever he does. To say that Neal, Ross and the others are out there still every night (which I'm very glad of, BTW) isn't an equal comparison either. Hell, whenever their instrument wears out, all they have to do is go buy another one. Who can't that be said of??? Ummm, the lead singer, perhaps??

I like to read everyone's opinions, and I've learned alot. I'm entitled to think that Steve Perry is a 'vocal God', because it's just that, my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm not seriously digging JSS and what he brings to the current lineup, because IMO if Steve Perry can't be there, there's no one else I'd rather see fronting the band. I just won't ever give up hoping for more from SP, and hoping to one day be able to see him share a stage with Neal, Jon, Ross, and Deen or Smitty. You really don't have to hate one to love the rest...

[Deb]

OK, I'm gonna add my 2 cents to this penny jar...

As a self-professed "loon", it appears to me that there are lots of people out here dogging Steve Perry every chance they get for what he does or doesn't do, but whenever anyone tries to defend those attacks, they are labeled as fanatical dipshits. Everyone has the right to express their opinions, on both the music and the man, but some of this shit is just outta hand. I'm not even suggesting to 'agree to disagree', just to respect what contribution SP gave to the history of Journey, and respect other people's views of it. We all have different tastes in music, and Journey's music has probably touched us all in our own unique ways.

The bottom line is this, and you can agree or disagree, approve or tell me to fuck off...the music that we continue to listen to, and the music that Journey continues to play every time they step on stage (whether on stage with JSS or Steve Augeri) was made famous by the Journey that was fronted by Steve Perry. When we hear that music, I think we all are just a little reminiscent of THAT Journey. You cannot separate the two. You can't be mad at him for sitting on his ass doing nothing, and then sit back and make fun of him and say he can't sing. You're trying to have it both ways, and I don't buy it. It's a no-win situation for him, whatever he does. To say that Neal, Ross and the others are out there still every night (which I'm very glad of, BTW) isn't an equal comparison either. Hell, whenever their instrument wears out, all they have to do is go buy another one. Who can't that be said of??? Ummm, the lead singer, perhaps??

I like to read everyone's opinions, and I've learned alot. I'm entitled to think that Steve Perry is a 'vocal God', because it's just that, my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm not seriously digging JSS and what he brings to the current lineup, because IMO if Steve Perry can't be there, there's no one else I'd rather see fronting the band. I just won't ever give up hoping for more from SP, and hoping to one day be able to see him share a stage with Neal, Jon, Ross, and Deen or Smitty. You really don't have to hate one to love the rest...

Best post of the week award!!! I agree with every single word of it!

[AR]

Steve Perry is a vocal god, fuck you all.

Not anymore - so you ready to bend over?

A vocal God would still be performing and not be a chicken shit. Yes, he WAS amazing. The guys like Joe Lynn Turner, Ronnie James Dio, Glenn Hughes, etc, that still perform at a high level in their 50's are vocal Gods. Fuck, Dio is pushing 70.

Owned bitch!

Perry WAS one of the best, but he is a puss. The aformentioned singers can still bring it.

[donnaplease]

OK, I'm gonna add my 2 cents to this penny jar...

As a self-professed "loon", it appears to me that there are lots of people out here dogging Steve Perry every chance they get for what he does or doesn't do, but whenever anyone tries to defend those attacks, they are labeled as fanatical dipshits. Everyone has the right to express their opinions, on both the music and the man, but some of this shit is just outta hand. I'm not even suggesting to 'agree to disagree', just to respect what contribution SP gave to the history of Journey, and respect other people's views of it. We all have different tastes in music, and Journey's music has probably touched us all in our own unique ways.

The bottom line is this, and you can agree or disagree, approve or tell me to fuck off...the music that we continue to listen to, and the music that Journey continues to play every time they step on stage (whether on stage with JSS or Steve Augeri) was made famous by the Journey that was fronted by Steve Perry. When we hear that music, I think we all are just a little reminiscent of THAT Journey. You cannot separate the two. You can't be mad at him for sitting on his ass doing nothing, and then sit back and make fun of him and say he can't sing. You're trying to have it both ways, and I don't buy it. It's a no-win situation for him, whatever he does. To say that Neal, Ross and the others are out there still every night (which I'm very glad of, BTW) isn't an equal comparison either. Hell, whenever their instrument wears out, all they have to do is go buy another one. Who can't that be said of??? Ummm, the lead singer, perhaps??

I like to read everyone's opinions, and I've learned alot. I'm entitled to think that Steve Perry is a 'vocal God', because it's just that, my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm not seriously digging JSS and what he brings to the current lineup, because IMO if Steve Perry can't be there, there's no one else I'd rather see fronting the band. I just won't ever give up hoping for more from SP, and hoping to one day be able to see him share a stage with Neal, Jon, Ross, and Deen or Smitty. You really don't have to hate one to love the rest...

Best post of the week award!!! I agree with every single word of it!

Thanks!!!!

[ArnelRox]

The bottom line is this, and you can agree or disagree, approve or tell me to fuck off...the music that we continue to listen to, and the music that Journey continues to play every time they step on stage (whether on stage with JSS or Steve Augeri) was made famous by the Journey that was fronted by Steve Perry. When we hear that music, I think we all are just a little reminiscent of THAT Journey. You cannot separate the two. You can't be mad at him for sitting on his ass doing nothing, and then sit back and make fun of him and say he can't sing. You're trying to have it both ways, and I don't buy it. It's a no-win situation for him, whatever he does. To say that Neal, Ross and the others are out there still every night (which I'm very glad of, BTW) isn't an equal comparison either. Hell, whenever their instrument wears out, all they have to do is go buy another one. Who can't that be said of??? Ummm, the lead singer, perhaps??

I like to read everyone's opinions, and I've learned alot. I'm entitled to think that Steve Perry is a 'vocal God', because it's just that, my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm not seriously digging JSS and what he brings to the current lineup, because IMO if Steve Perry can't be there, there's no one else I'd rather see fronting the band. I just won't ever give up hoping for more from SP, and hoping to one day be able to see him share a stage with Neal, Jon, Ross, and Deen or Smitty. You really don't have to hate one to love the rest...

Very well said Donna. U know, I just spent 2 weeks in hospital (no sympathy needed or asked for). To cheer me up, my friend brought me 6 DVDs of Journey & Steve Perry. I played them every moment I wasn't too drugged up on pain meds & the nurses all loved it, young & old, black, white, hispanic, european, didn't matter, they all got into it. They knew those songs & they knew the Perry versions of them. Some knew Perry's name. Some didn't. The bottom line is that w/out Perry's voice, Journey may have been a band that faded into obscurity. No, we can't turn back the hands of time & see if another vocalist would have brought Journey the fame it got. But honestly, do u really think anyone else could have done it? Do u think a guy who can sing like Perry comes around every day? If u do, think again. The man made it sound easy to move from chest voice to middle voice to head voice. He made it sound like one smooth cohesive voice. His bridges were smooth as butter w/no breaks as he moved through his "voices". He adducted those vocal cords like no one's business & made it sound soooo easy. He visibly used his excellent diaphragmatic breathing on stage holding notes for as long as most people orgasm for. His vibrato was second to none & he instinctively knew when he was having a tough moment & used it to make a note sound smooth. Later on, he added vocal fry & perfected that technique. I've probably missed a ton of other techniques the guy perfected. If u don't know what I'm talking about, try reading up about the art (theory) of singing or ask Nora or Jeremey to explain better than I can. If u wanna trash Perry, then u are not a Journey fan. I bet most of us came to be Journey fans because of Perry's voice. Sure, maybe some of u are big Neal fans, but u might never have heard Neal w/out Perry's vocals. Think about it. Get honest. Tell the truth for once.

Yes, I'm a loon. Doesn't mean I don't like Journey w/out Perry tho. I've been discovering a lot of JSS's solo work while in the hospital too. Both my friend who was an Augeri-fanatic & I are now big JSS fans. But I'll always love Perry & if that makes me a loon, I don't want anything else.

[yulog]

you people are just LOOOONY!!!!!

[NealIsGod]

Yes, I'm a loon. Doesn't mean I don't like Journey w/out Perry tho.

You can't be both. See ohsherries sig.

[ohsherrie]

Great posts Donnaplease and JRox. (Sorry you've been sick Susie, I'd been wondering where you were)

I've never understood why people are so mad at Steve. He couldn't tour for TBF, and got replaced by a singer who just didn't measure up to Journey standards. That wasn't Steve's fault. It's always seemed as if some of the fans who've professed to be perfectly happy with Augeri were some of the same ones who were either angry with Perry for not being there or seemed to feel the need to justify Augeri by trying to cut Perry down.

We have a new singer now that does measure up to Journey standards. He doesn't need to be justified, he justifies himself with his talent. Most of the avid Perry fans even acknowledge that. Sure Perry is still #1 with most of us, but we're perfectly happy with Jeff, so there's really nothing to argue about.

Hmmmmm, could it be that this thread was meant to relieve the boredom by starting a war with the 'loons?

[ohsherrie]

Yes, I'm a loon. Doesn't mean I don't like Journey w/out Perry tho.

You can't be both. See ohsherries sig.

Yep, there ya go. If we were 'loons we'd be raising hell in this thread right now.

[Rockindeano]

Good post Yogi.

There goes all your credibility right there.

I tried to sit on the sidelines and watch, but after seeing this, I can hold back no longer. Let's dissect this shit post, shall we?

Personally Perry has opened up more this year,

What? he opened up? I am dealing with a bonafide retard. This will be tougher than I thought.

and in the last 3 months than he has since he dropped Neal's sorry ass in 1998.

Hmm. So you, a Perry fan, are saying Perry (god in your eyes), dropped Neal? All the other Perry Loons cry that god was dropped by that meanie Neal Schon.

Also, did not god say in his eye opening Q+A (well done Lora and Cyndy), that the most talented and amazing musical talent to him was Neal Schon? So on one hand we have Neal's sorry ass, and on the other we have a great musical talent. Make up your mind, tard.

The last 10 yrs have proven who the real man is and it hasnt been Neal.

It hasn't? Last time I checked, Neal Fucking Schon continues to play in front of thousands a night, gets better and better (if that's possible), and puts out new music. On the other hand, god pets cats. You do the math, tard.

I feel sorry for JSS, because when it all comes down, Neal will screw with him too.

Naw. Good friends, excellent chemistry. Besides, I think Jeff would bend Neal over if they ever had to screw(sorry Neal..hope he doesn't see this). He is definitely a tough little fucker. perhaps I should tell the story of Neal kicking Jason Bonham's ass in the UK.

I am a die hard Perry fan, with that being said, I enjoy hearing from him.

A single pre screened Q/A once a year satisfies you? You must be a easy fuck. Puke....oh the image is gross.

Personally I dont care whether he releases anything again or not

Obviously. Your standards are subpar, to say the least.

The man has class, unlike Neal who is always wiggling around trying to stay afloat.

How would you know Perry has class? Because your dry opening gets a little misty when you see him sing Oh Sherrie? Neal is a blast and I would go to war for that guy any day of the week.

Wiggling to stay afloat? You have Schon confused with that red leather fag panted jeri curled earring fag, Augeri.

In many ways, Journey is kinda like all of Neal's marriages, he cant remain FAITHFUL.

I could have sworn you wrote that Perry dumped Neal 's sorry ass? So who is being unfaithful? Yep, there it is. I quoted your own words.

Jump ship now Jeff - cuz he will eventually take you down too!!

Nothing like a short bus passenger with hate filled post making a complete ass of herself. You have been exposed.

[Rockindeano]

I just spent 2 weeks in hospital (no sympathy needed or asked for).

Hey, I called you about 8 times! Who else from this board did that?

[treetopovskaya]

great post donna & jr (hope you're feeling better!)!

[donnaplease]

Yes, I'm a loon. Doesn't mean I don't like Journey w/out Perry tho.

You can't be both. See ohsherries sig.

So, I'm not a loon???? How devastating.

[Classic Rock]

Just to be clear, my main beef isn't with Perry, or that he wishes to remain retired. It is with the fans who think that Journey has no right to exist without SP. And also with anyone who thinks that an almost 60 year old man could get up and front that band in 2006.

Exactly.

Just to play devil's advocate here: Mick Jagger and Roger Daltrey do it...

Just to point out he said THAT band meaning Journey I reckon. No need to reiterate how tough that catalog is vocally. As for Daltrey, he is struggling but he is still fantastic. They left my favorite song “Love Reign O’er Me” off their set because Daltrey probably couldn’t pull it off successfully. Also McCartney is 64 and he is still out there doing it BUT even his catalog is not as hard as Journeys.

[Rockindeano]

Just to be clear, my main beef isn't with Perry, or that he wishes to remain retired. It is with the fans who think that Journey has no right to exist without SP. And also with anyone who thinks that an almost 60 year old man could get up and front that band in 2006.

Exactly.

Just to play devil's advocate here: Mick Jagger and Roger Daltrey do it...

Just to point out he said THAT band meaning Journey I reckon. No need to reiterate how tough that catalog is vocally. As for Daltrey, he is struggling but he is still fantastic. They left my favorite song “Love Reign O’er Me” off their set because Daltrey probably couldn’t pull it off successfully. Also McCartney is 64 and he is still out there doing it BUT even his catalog is not as hard as Journeys.

I think the Who blows but aside from that, Heard Daltrey sing “Love Reign O’er Me” on the Stern show at 630A, and he pulled it off. That was about a month ago, when Pete Townsend was also supposed to be on the show and he got his britches all messy when he heard Stern talking about the little boy porn on Pete's computer and Petey took off running..typical Limey pussy. Anyway, yeah, Roger can sing live still, and Mick just garbled his way through a show.

Journey's cataloge is the toughest to sing, period. Easy to mime though.

[Granny]

The bottom line is this, and you can agree or disagree, approve or tell me to fuck off...the music that we continue to listen to, and the music that Journey continues to play every time they step on stage (whether on stage with JSS or Steve Augeri) was made famous by the Journey that was fronted by Steve Perry. When we hear that music, I think we all are just a little reminiscent of THAT Journey. You cannot separate the two. You can't be mad at him for sitting on his ass doing nothing, and then sit back and make fun of him and say he can't sing. You're trying to have it both ways, and I don't buy it. It's a no-win situation for him, whatever he does. To say that Neal, Ross and the others are out there still every night (which I'm very glad of, BTW) isn't an equal comparison either. Hell, whenever their instrument wears out, all they have to do is go buy another one. Who can't that be said of??? Ummm, the lead singer, perhaps??

I like to read everyone's opinions, and I've learned alot. I'm entitled to think that Steve Perry is a 'vocal God', because it's just that, my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm not seriously digging JSS and what he brings to the current lineup, because IMO if Steve Perry can't be there, there's no one else I'd rather see fronting the band. I just won't ever give up hoping for more from SP, and hoping to one day be able to see him share a stage with Neal, Jon, Ross, and Deen or Smitty. You really don't have to hate one to love the rest...

Very well said Donna. U know, I just spent 2 weeks in hospital (no sympathy needed or asked for). To cheer me up, my friend brought me 6 DVDs of Journey & Steve Perry. I played them every moment I wasn't too drugged up on pain meds & the nurses all loved it, young & old, black, white, hispanic, european, didn't matter, they all got into it. They knew those songs & they knew the Perry versions of them. Some knew Perry's name. Some didn't. The bottom line is that w/out Perry's voice, Journey may have been a band that faded into obscurity. No, we can't turn back the hands of time & see if another vocalist would have brought Journey the fame it got. But honestly, do u really think anyone else could have done it? Do u think a guy who can sing like Perry comes around every day? If u do, think again. The man made it sound easy to move from chest voice to middle voice to head voice. He made it sound like one smooth cohesive voice. His bridges were smooth as butter w/no breaks as he moved through his "voices". He adducted those vocal cords like no one's business & made it sound soooo easy. He visibly used his excellent diaphragmatic breathing on stage holding notes for as long as most people orgasm for. His vibrato was second to none & he instinctively knew when he was having a tough moment & used it to make a note sound smooth. Later on, he added vocal fry & perfected that technique. I've probably missed a ton of other techniques the guy perfected. If u don't know what I'm talking about, try reading up about the art (theory) of singing or ask Nora or Jeremey to explain better than I can. If u wanna trash Perry, then u are not a Journey fan. I bet most of us came to be Journey fans because of Perry's voice. Sure, maybe some of u are big Neal fans, but u might never have heard Neal w/out Perry's vocals. Think about it. Get honest. Tell the truth for once.

Yes, I'm a loon. Doesn't mean I don't like Journey w/out Perry tho. I've been discovering a lot of JSS's solo work while in the hospital too. Both my friend who was an Augeri-fanatic & I are now big JSS fans. But I'll always love Perry & if that makes me a loon, I don't want anything else.

Love u both..u are awesome...so well said by both of you...and so true...every word....there will never be another like SP, but I also agree that I can enjoy Journey with Jeff at the helm.....and Neal is a guitar God....

[Classic Rock]

I think the Who blows but aside from that, Heard Daltrey sing “Love Reign O’er Me” on the Stern show at 630A, and he pulled it off. That was about a month ago, when Pete Townsend was also supposed to be on the show and he got his britches all messy when he heard Stern talking about the little boy porn on Pete's computer and Petey took off running..typical Limey pussy. Anyway, yeah, Roger can sing live still, and Mick just garbled his way through a show.

Journey's cataloge is the toughest to sing, period. Easy to mime though.

Why do you think they blow? So was there any background music or what since Townshend was not there? With what you heard do you think he can pull it off in a live concert setting?

[Granny]

Susie, sorry to hear u were in hte hospital...hope things are better now...
PM me with ur address, I want to send u something....Carol

[Rockindeano]

Why do you think they blow? So was there any background music or what since Townshend was not there? With what you heard do you think he can pull it off in a live concert setting?

I know they are talented, I just personally don't like em. Roger sang the song acapella. Very good. He can pull it off live, no prob.

[scarygirl]

While Journey pulled SP over the top, although some would say vice versa, I think he would have been successful no matter what band he joined. If you've heard his work with "Alien Project," you know what I'm talking about. The boy simply wails!!!!

[TRAGChick]

The bottom line is this, and you can agree or disagree, approve or tell me to fuck off...the music that we continue to listen to, and the music that Journey continues to play every time they step on stage (whether on stage with JSS or Steve Augeri) was made famous by the Journey that was fronted by Steve Perry. When we hear that music, I think we all are just a little reminiscent of THAT Journey. You cannot separate the two. You can't be mad at him for sitting on his ass doing nothing, and then sit back and make fun of him and say he can't sing. You're trying to have it both ways, and I don't buy it. It's a no-win situation for him, whatever he does.

To say that Neal, Ross and the others are out there still every night (which I'm very glad of, BTW) isn't an equal comparison either. Hell, whenever their instrument wears out, all they have to do is go buy another one. Who can't that be said of??? Ummm, the lead singer, perhaps??

I like to read everyone's opinions, and I've learned alot. I'm entitled to think that Steve Perry is a 'vocal God', because it's just that, my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm not seriously digging JSS and what he brings to the current lineup, because IMO if Steve Perry can't be there, there's no one else I'd rather see fronting the band. I just won't ever give up hoping for more from SP, and hoping to one day be able to see him share a stage with Neal, Jon, Ross, and Deen or Smitty. You really don't have to hate one to love the rest...

Very well said Donna. U know, I just spent 2 weeks in hospital (no sympathy needed or asked for). To cheer me up, my friend brought me 6 DVDs of Journey & Steve Perry. I played them every moment I wasn't too drugged up on pain meds & the nurses all loved it, young & old, black, white, hispanic, european, didn't matter, they all got into it. They knew those songs & they knew the Perry versions of them. Some knew Perry's name. Some didn't. The bottom line is that w/out Perry's voice, Journey may have been a band that faded into obscurity. No, we can't turn back the hands of time & see if another vocalist would have brought Journey the fame it got. But honestly, do u really think anyone else could have done it? Do u think a guy who can sing like Perry comes around every day? If u do, think again. The man made it sound easy to move from chest voice to middle voice to head voice. He made it sound like one smooth cohesive voice. His bridges were smooth as butter w/no breaks as he moved through his "voices". He adducted those vocal cords like no one's business & made it sound soooo easy. He visibly used his excellent diaphragmatic breathing on stage holding notes for as long as most people orgasm for. His vibrato was second to none & he instinctively knew when he was having a tough moment & used it to make a note sound smooth. Later on, he added vocal fry & perfected that technique. I've probably missed a ton of other techniques the guy perfected. If u don't know what I'm talking about, try reading up about the art (theory) of singing or ask Nora or Jeremey to explain better than I can. If u wanna trash Perry, then u are not a Journey fan. I bet most of us came to be Journey fans because of Perry's voice. Sure, maybe some of u are big Neal fans, but u might never have heard Neal w/out Perry's vocals. Think about it. Get honest. Tell the truth for once.

Yes, I'm a loon. Doesn't mean I don't like Journey w/out Perry tho. I've been discovering a lot of JSS's solo work while in the hospital too. Both my friend who was an Augeri-fanatic & I are now big JSS fans. But I'll always love Perry & if that makes me a loon, I don't want anything else.

Love u both..u are awesome...so well said by both of you...and so true...every word....there will never be another like SP, but I also agree that I can enjoy Journey with Jeff at the helm.....and Neal is a guitar God....

.................

....did you both read my mind, or something?

Couldn't have said it better!

[Matthew]

How would you know Perry has class? Because your dry opening gets a little misty when you see him sing Oh Sherrie? Neal is a blast and I would go to war for that guy any day of the week.

Wiggling to stay afloat? You have Schon confused with that red leather fag panted jeri curled earring fag, Augeri.

Unfortunately Deano...the main reason we know Schon has no class is because you demonstrated this to be true beyond all reasonable doubt on your blog.

Let's not forget that Schon hired "that red leather fag" in the first place and enabled the deception of the fans.....

I still think that Schon is a genius but it does seem that he's become corrupted over the years.

[perrydaze]

Ok so I have now figured out who the idiot of the board is.

Perry doesn't need Journey. But without Perry, Journey NEVER would have existed. I am sure Perry is sitting back and having himself a good laugh at this fiasco, not the least bit concerned over what will happen next.

[ArnelRox]

Ok so I have now figured out who the idiot of the board is.

Perry doesn't need Journey. But without Perry, Journey NEVER would have existed. I am sure Perry is sitting back and having himself a good laugh at this fiasco, not the least bit concerned over what will happen next.

I think u need to restate that, PD, as it's incorrect. Journey DID exist before Perry. However, I seriously doubt they would have had the kind of fame they enjoyed without Perry.

[SteveForever]

OK, I'm gonna add my 2 cents to this penny jar...

As a self-professed "loon", it appears to me that there are lots of people out here dogging Steve Perry every chance they get for what he does or doesn't do, but whenever anyone tries to defend those attacks, they are labeled as fanatical dipshits. Everyone has the right to express their opinions, on both the music and the man, but some of this shit is just outta hand. I'm not even suggesting to 'agree to disagree', just to respect what contribution SP gave to the history of Journey, and respect other people's views of it. We all have different tastes in music, and Journey's music has probably touched us all in our own unique ways.

The bottom line is this, and you can agree or disagree, approve or tell me to fuck off...the music that we continue to listen to, and the music that Journey continues to play every time they step on stage (whether on stage with JSS or Steve Augeri) was made famous by the Journey that was fronted by Steve Perry. When we hear that music, I think we all are just a little reminiscent of THAT Journey. You cannot separate the two. You can't be mad at him for sitting on his ass doing nothing, and then sit back and make fun of him and say he can't sing. You're trying to have it both ways, and I don't buy it. It's a no-win situation for him, whatever he does. To say that Neal, Ross and the others are out there still every night (which I'm very glad of, BTW) isn't an equal comparison either. Hell, whenever their instrument wears out, all they have to do is go buy another one. Who can't that be said of??? Ummm, the lead singer, perhaps??

I like to read everyone's opinions, and I've learned alot. I'm entitled to think that Steve Perry is a 'vocal God', because it's just that, my opinion. It doesn't mean I'm not seriously digging JSS and what he brings to the current lineup, because IMO if Steve Perry can't be there, there's no one else I'd rather see fronting the band. I just won't ever give up hoping for more from SP, and hoping to one day be able to see him share a stage with Neal, Jon, Ross, and Deen or Smitty. You really don't have to hate one to love the rest...

If Andrew is going to give out awards to Journey Troll then he certainly needs to give one to people that really deserve it...and this is one of the posts that gets an AMEN award!!! I'm getting bored with the people on here that say they are fans but they pick their friends....literally to pieces! if you are a friend of Journey then you show them respect and you show your friends on here some respect!!!

[tammy]

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Very well said Donna. U know, I just spent 2 weeks in hospital (no sympathy needed or asked for). To cheer me up, my friend brought me 6 DVDs of Journey & Steve Perry. I played them every moment I wasn't too drugged up on pain meds & the nurses all loved it, young & old, black, white, hispanic, european, didn't matter, they all got into it. They knew those songs & they knew the Perry versions of them. Some knew Perry's name. Some didn't. The bottom line is that w/out Perry's voice, Journey may have been a band that faded into obscurity. No, we can't turn back the hands of time & see if another vocalist would have brought Journey the fame it got. But honestly, do u really think anyone else could have done it? Do u think a guy who can sing like Perry comes around every day? If u do, think again. The man made it sound easy to move from chest voice to middle voice to head voice. He made it sound like one smooth cohesive voice. His bridges were smooth as butter w/no breaks as he moved through his "voices". He adducted those vocal cords like no one's business & made it sound soooo easy. He visibly used his excellent diaphragmatic breathing on stage holding notes for as long as most people orgasm for. His vibrato was second to none & he instinctively knew when he was having a tough moment & used it to make a note sound smooth. Later on, he added vocal fry & perfected that technique. I've probably missed a ton of other techniques the guy perfected. If u don't know what I'm talking about, try reading up about the art (theory) of singing or ask Nora or Jeremey to explain better than I can. If u wanna trash Perry, then u are not a Journey fan. I bet most of us came to be Journey fans because of Perry's voice. Sure, maybe some of u are big Neal fans, but u might never have heard Neal w/out Perry's vocals. Think about it. Get honest. Tell the truth for once.

Yes, I'm a loon. Doesn't mean I don't like Journey w/out Perry tho. I've been discovering a lot of JSS's solo work while in the hospital too. Both my friend who was an Augeri-fanatic & I are now big JSS fans. But I'll always love Perry & if that makes me a loon, I don't want anything else.[/quote]

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Love how you described SP's vocal talents, JourneyRox ( hope you are all better, too). I think not only did SP have the incredible voice, but also the charisma & the believability to convey a song emotionally...some people may have the technique but lack the other elements that make greatness. The gods smiled down on him that is for sure.