Question for the PERRY FANACTICS.....

[Jeremey]

There was a reason why some of us didn't completely accept Augeri as the lead singer of Journey, and it doesn't have to do with the fact that he replaced Perry. Needless to say, the issues I've always had with his performances (and even back to 1998) appear to be resolved now.

[ArnelRox]

And if God forbid, they made Castronovo the full-time lead singer, I think the bashing would've been worse than any Augeri ever went through for succeeding Perry.

Disagree with you there......don't think it is actually possible to 'bash' Castronovo....unless you have a heart of stone.

There are MANY doing it on that "other forum" right now.

[Red13JoePa]

And if God forbid, they made Castronovo the full-time lead singer, I think the bashing would've been worse than any Augeri ever went through for succeeding Perry.

Disagree with you there......don't think it is actually possible to 'bash' Castronovo....unless you have a heart of stone.

There are MANY doing it on that "other forum" right now.

Well, if his interview didn't completely do it, then it least put Deen in the position of emptying a gas can on the bridge and checking his pockets for the Cricket lighter.

[PROPERRY]

Great post Shania, you put into words exactly how I feel too.

HOTS somehow you equate enjoying the JSS/Journey lineup as taking something away from being a Perry fan (like you can't be both?)......I don't.....simple as that! Do you think Perry only listens to ONE vocalist?

Well I stated my feelings here, I am still sticking with Steve Perry. This question (why can't you like both?) is what WE Perry fans HEARD ALL the time from the Augeri fans. That NEVER made me change my feelings about Augeri, or jump on the band wagon of liking him just because other fans did. I just grew more tired of the question that's all.

The Journey I love BEST IS and ALWAYS will be WITH Steve Perry!!! That is how *I* FEEL! Not all Perry fans have to be in agreement about JSS.

Lori

I agree with you on Perry being the Best Journey vocalist (my fav vocalist in the last 25 years period).....and yes not everybody has to agree on JSS. Everybody has different preferences and although Augeri did nothing for me, I'm not going to knock the guy. I am not a bandwagon jumper, if I like it...I like it, if I don't....I don't, period (no critic or fan is going to change my opinion). I haven't been to a Journey concert yet with JSS and have seen a few boots/youtubes......so actually I am going more on his previous work of the dvds I have. He shares alot of Perry's qualities and that has me intrigued..........so to say you are 'sticking with Perry' as if I'm not, is just plain crazy! Perry respects his previous bandmates and likes Jeff's work enough to buy it himself.......so I'm thinking Perry is probably ok with some of us die-hard fans being a fan of JSS's too.

Exactly strungout, NO critic or fan is going to change MY mind either, I either like it or I don't, it's that simple , but you were the one saying "why can't you like both?" I take no issue with you or others here that like both Perry & JSS that is ok , but I do have the right to feel the way I do about Perry being the ONLY one to sing those songs for me...I don't have a desire to hear anyone else sing those GREAT Journey songs because I LOVE THE WAY Perry SINGS all those songs.

I was clearly speaking for MYSELF and made it quite clear in my post that it was MY FEELINGS, I wasn't speaking for ALL Perry Fans or thinking that you or others had to agree with me, and WHERE did I say in either of my post how Perry feels about you liking JSS, OR how Perry feels about Augeri or JSS being in Journey??? The only thing I remember from one of the q&A, (NOT this recent Q&A) is that he was asked about Augeri, And he stated something along the lines of (NOT exact words) "he remembers HIS OWN time in Journey.


Lori

[ArnelRox]

Exactly strungout, NO critic or fan is going to change MY mind either, I either like it or I don't, it's that simple , but you were the one saying "why can't you like both?" I take no issue with you or others here that like both Perry & JSS that is ok , but I do have the right to feel the way I do about Perry being the ONLY one to sing those songs for me...I don't have a desire to hear anyone else sing those GREAT Journey songs because I LOVE THE WAY Perry SINGS all those songs.

Hey Lori, I totally respect ur right to love the way Perry sings those songs. I just wish u would open ur mind up a little bit & at least listen once to Jeff singing some of them. I'd also love if u listened to some of Jeff's other work & just checked it out. U may still not like it, but at least then, u could give a balanced opinion. I don't want to tell u what to do. I just think ur missing out by not hearing something else. If u want to give it a try, let me know. I can hook u up w/some samples.

[ohsherrie]

It's simple, really.

He doesn't sound enough like Perry on a song in and song out basis to be percieved as a threat or ripoff to the loons


Believe me, if he did he'd be cast in the same die as Augeri was by the heads.

And if God forbid, they made Castronovo the full-time lead singer, I think the bashing would've been worse than any Augeri ever went through for succeeding Perry.

I can't speak for anyone but myself here, but this isn't the case for me. I never thought Augeri sounded like Perry. I thought he sounded like he was trying to sound like Perry but just didn't have the voice or soulfulness to quite do it. I never felt threatened by Augeri in any way because he wasn't good enough to be a threat to Steve's status as the voice of Journey. What I felt may have been threatened was the status of Journey's legacy as a great band.

I didn't resent Augeri from the beginning just because he took Perry's place. For one thing he never took Perry's place for me because I just lost interest in anything but the catatlog. I didn't like Augeri as the frontman for Journey simply because I didn't think he was good enough as a singer or a performer and I said so. That wasn't bashing, it was just stating my opinion in the beginning. It turned into bashing when the Augeri fans started throwing shitty digs at Perry, and at the Perry fans just because we didn't like Augeri and I fought back at that.

Would I have liked Jeff immediately as much as I like him now? I honestly don't know but I wouldn't have disliked him as much as I did Augeri because he's such a far superior talent. Would I have gotten into the fray over the change in frontmen to the extent that I did then. I don't know that either, but I'll admit that I still would have come to the defense of Perry's legacy as Journey's frontman and the Perry fans' right to their opinions if the circumstances that I found on the messageboards at the time were the same.

[Red13JoePa]

Sorry, but there are many an undiscriminating ear who've attended the shows year in and year out (or else they would've be touring year in and year out) who thought Augeri sounded like Perry.

We here all know of the differences (I also think some of it may be elitist posturing), but to the lay journey fans it didn't make that much of a difference.


And that led to resentment among Perryonlys.

[Deb]

Exactly strungout, NO critic or fan is going to change MY mind either, I either like it or I don't, it's that simple , but you were the one saying "why can't you like both?" I take no issue with you or others here that like both Perry & JSS that is ok , but I do have the right to feel the way I do about Perry being the ONLY one to sing those songs for me...I don't have a desire to hear anyone else sing those GREAT Journey songs because I LOVE THE WAY Perry SINGS all those songs.

Hey Lori, I totally respect ur right to love the way Perry sings those songs. I just wish u would open ur mind up a little bit & at least listen once to Jeff singing some of them. I'd also love if u listened to some of Jeff's other work & just checked it out. U may still not like it, but at least then, u could give a balanced opinion. I don't want to tell u what to do. I just think ur missing out by not hearing something else. If u want to give it a try, let me know. I can hook u up w/some samples.

That's kinda what I was trying to say, JRox just always seems to know how to word these things better. Just saying....give it a fair chance. Don't just listen/see a quick youtube of JSS earlier on in this tour and write it off. The more I see of his previous work and more recent tour clips, the more I actually see what he's got to bring. Like JRox said, research a little or if you have already..........and still don't like it, then fair enough. BTW, I LOVE THE WAY PERRY SINGS THOSE SONGS THE BEST TOO......and that will never change.

[tammy]

Look, I'm not gonna be grabbing people off the street or other fan sites trying to convert them to the JSS fronted Journey...lol! I don't particularly care...although, I do dislike intensely people who won't even open their mind a crack to TRY something before blasting off with opinion. It's fine if you try it and THEN form an opinion and stick with what you prefer, I respect that. It's even fine if something is really not your cup of tea, but to keep on blasting negatively is just ignorant. I wasn't around when SP & Journey parted ways in '98, I had no idea what had transpired until 2004, so I only speak from my personal view.

I'll have to see how I feel AFTER I attend a Journey concert with Jeff...I do know I did feel quite sad that it wasn't SP but SA instead, but like I've said before - I love THAT guitar sound, THAT piano, THAT drumming, THAT bass...THE MUSIC and there will be a time in the future when it will all be gone for good from the concert scene. It's not a life or death situation...(I actually came close to that experience a few months ago - anaphylatic allergic reaction!) so, I want to keep things light & happy in my life as much as possible.

[ohsherrie]

Sorry, but there are many an undiscriminating ear who've attended the shows year in and year out (or else they would've be touring year in and year out) who thought Augeri sounded like Perry.

We here all know of the differences (I also think some of it may be elitist posturing), but to the lay journey fans it didn't make that much of a difference.


And that led to resentment among Perryonlys.

Maybe for some, like I said, I can't speak for anyone but myself.

[Fourt9rkim]

I was fortunate to see the Perry-era Journey back in the mid 80's twice, and I loved Perry's stage presence both times.

I never saw the Augeri-era Journey, and after seeing clips on YouTube and hearing various Augeri/Journey cuts on my Launch player, I'm damn glad I never had the chance to waste my money. Can you say BORING??!!! His voice grates on my nerves. (MY OPINION)

I saw JSS/Journey in Fresno in October and HOLY SHIT! I am a renewed Journey fan....the energy and enthusiasm that Jeff brings is incredible. And he NAILS those classic Journey songs, IMO. I am so glad that Jeff is the lead singer of this band, and I can't wait to hear what else he brings!

[PROPERRY]

Exactly strungout, NO critic or fan is going to change MY mind either, I either like it or I don't, it's that simple , but you were the one saying "why can't you like both?" I take no issue with you or others here that like both Perry & JSS that is ok , but I do have the right to feel the way I do about Perry being the ONLY one to sing those songs for me...I don't have a desire to hear anyone else sing those GREAT Journey songs because I LOVE THE WAY Perry SINGS all those songs.

Hey Lori, I totally respect ur right to love the way Perry sings those songs. I just wish u would open ur mind up a little bit & at least listen once to Jeff singing some of them. I'd also love if u listened to some of Jeff's other work & just checked it out. U may still not like it, but at least then, u could give a balanced opinion. I don't want to tell u what to do. I just think ur missing out by not hearing something else. If u want to give it a try, let me know. I can hook u up w/some samples.

That's kinda what I was trying to say, JRox just always seems to know how to word these things better. Just saying....give it a fair chance. Don't just listen/see a quick youtube of JSS earlier on in this tour and write it off. The more I see of his previous work and more recent tour clips, the more I actually see what he's got to bring. Like JRox said, research a little or if you have already..........and still don't like it, then fair enough. BTW, I LOVE THE WAY PERRY SINGS THOSE SONGS THE BEST TOO......and that will never change.

Look,I have already heard some of JSS solo music & STATED that I thought He had a stronger voice than Augeri (posted on the board a long while back). I've also listened to Soul Sirkus solo music, I thought the lyrics to some of those songs were negative, & not my style of music, so there you have it. I really only liked one of his solo songs called "Is This The End.

As I said, Like who you like...... BUT for ME, Perry is the ONLY one who can sing those Journey songs for me, that is how *I* feel and that won't change for me.

By the way strungout, you never did explain all those other comments in your post that had absolutely NOTHING to do with my post, such as, you feeling the need to get Perry 's approval to like JSS?? I don't get that & I hardly think Perry would get that either. For ME again, I just like what I like, I don't need anyone's approval (famous or nonfamous) to enjoy what I like.

Lori

[ArnelRox]

Look,I have already heard some of JSS solo music & STATED that I thought He had a stronger voice than Augeri (posted on the board a long while back). I've also listened to Soul Sirkus solo music, I thought the lyrics to some of those songs were negative, & not my style of music, so there you have it. I really only liked one of his solo songs called "Is This The End.

Lori, have u ever heard any Talisman music? How about Eyes? Have u heard the Talisman one that sounds very Sam Cooke-ish "Doin' It Wit' My Baby" or any of the Talisman beautiful ballads? There's just so much to choose from. Before writing him off as someone u don't like, I wish u would give some more of the music a try. That's all.

[ohsherrie]

Exactly strungout, NO critic or fan is going to change MY mind either, I either like it or I don't, it's that simple , but you were the one saying "why can't you like both?" I take no issue with you or others here that like both Perry & JSS that is ok , but I do have the right to feel the way I do about Perry being the ONLY one to sing those songs for me...I don't have a desire to hear anyone else sing those GREAT Journey songs because I LOVE THE WAY Perry SINGS all those songs.

Lori,

Jeff isn't replacing Perry on the classics for me either. Given a choice I'd much rather listen to Perry singing them than anyone else, but he's not. What I like about Jeff is that he does outstanding, sincere, vocal professional justice to the catalog and also has the potential to give us some great new Journey music. He's got enough soul and charisma, enough chemistry with the band, and enough songwriting ability to give Journey the shot of adrenaline that it sorely needs.

Even if you never like him singing the classics, at least do what HOTS is doing and give the new music that they're going to produce a chance before you write them off.

Sherrie

[treetopovskaya]

it's easy for me because i liked jss way before he joined journey. }:C))