Brad Delps Death More to the story

[Rockindeano]

I have NEVER attacked anyone personally here, but, Deano you are in serious need of a good shrink!

RIP - Brad!!!!!!

Hey Dr Yogi, if I wanted more bullshit, I would have called you.

So instead of typing out that complaint to uncle Andrew, why don't you tell me where I was wrong?

[7 Wishes]

The best friend I've ever had jumped off the George Washington bridge in 1991. I never knew just how depressed he was. I have never forgiven myself for not being more attuned to what he was going through. If this is the truth, it is even more devastating.

[larryfromnextdoor]

book

this reminds me,, ive been wanting to order this book!! this thread was good PR.. lulu here i come,, i wonder how i could get it autographed,, it would say , "to larry, you make my skin crawl in the best way.. your pal laura..."

p.s. ive never written a book and i look forward to reading it .

[*Laura]

"to larry, you make my skin crawl in the best way.. your pal laura..."

Xcuse me,but that was funny as shit! Thanks,Lar...lol

I have the pen ready.

[yogi]

Delete

[joybringer1]

Please don't use this thread for an argument, it seems so disrespectful to the recently-deceased. Dean, I was sorry to hear about your health problems - getting riled up surely can't be doing you any good. But if you have to get riled up about what you describe as bullshitting, may I respectfully suggest you turn your venom towards Ross Valory, and to a lesser extent, Neal Schon. They are much more deserving of it. But please not in this thread. Thank you.

[montyollie]

Just a quick note to say I'm really new on this board and I don't know ANY of you and your history... I have no biases and no bone to pick.

But Deano, you sound like you have a problem. Nothing gets my back up more than someone who criticizes a published writer by saying they could do better and then hurling personal attacks.

Present it. Where's your published book? I'll buy it if you give me the link.

Just thought you might like to know that this sort of crap is really a turn-off to the newcomer to a board. Civilised conversation is really not that difficult to master.

[donnaplease]

OK, guys, this thread wasn't started as a respect-the-deceased thread. No offense meant to roknroseville, but this is a gossip thread, speculating on the cause of his death, much like all the talk about Anna Nicole. There is, however, a thread dedicated to the life and work of Brad Delp.

Can we please cease and desist with the cursing and personal attacks? What I find interesting is that those that are criticizing Deano for his behavior are employing personal attacks of their own by insisting that he needs 'help'.

I must say again that I am disappointed and even embarrassed at the path this thread has taken. I mean, you never know, someone important to me may be reading...

[****]

OK, guys, this thread wasn't started as a respect-the-deceased thread. No offense meant to roknroseville, but this is a gossip thread, speculating on the cause of his death, much like all the talk about Anna Nicole. There is, however, a thread dedicated to the life and work of Brad Delp.

Can we please cease and desist with the cursing and personal attacks? What I find interesting is that those that are criticizing Deano for his behavior are employing personal attacks of their own by insisting that he needs 'help'.

I must say again that I am disappointed and even embarrassed at the path this thread has taken. I mean, you never know, someone important to me may be reading...

how did you know I was reading.. hehe kidding trying to lighten the mood!

[Enigma869]

OK, guys, this thread wasn't started as a respect-the-deceased thread. No offense meant to roknroseville, but this is a gossip thread, speculating on the cause of his death, much like all the talk about Anna Nicole. :

I'm not sure I agree with this. I certainly agree that we should leave the personal attacks out of this thread. That said, Brad Delp was a public figure, who led a very public life. I can tell you as someone who lives two towns away from where Brad lived, he was very public in the community, and was by no means a recluse. While speculation about his death may seem disrespectful to some, it doesn't change the fact that people are going to wonder about a guy who seemingly had zero health issues. Also, according to local police, drugs, alcohol, and foul play were not a factor in this case. That doesn't leave many other options. It could always be attributed to something along the lines of an unknown heart problem or sudden anuerysm, but, there is more than one local report out there that there may have something more tragic at work here. In any case, my heart goes out to Brad's fiance, who had the misfortune of finding him, in whatever state he was in. I've yet to meet anyone who knew Brad on a personal level who had anything but the highest praise for the guy. By all accounts, he was one of the good guys. Unfortunately, sometimes bad things happen to great people. RIP Brad!


John from Boston

[donnaplease]

OK, guys, this thread wasn't started as a respect-the-deceased thread. No offense meant to roknroseville, but this is a gossip thread, speculating on the cause of his death, much like all the talk about Anna Nicole. :

I'm not sure I agree with this. I certainly agree that we should leave the personal attacks out of this thread. That said, Brad Delp was a public figure, who led a very public life. I can tell you as someone who lives two towns away from where Brad lived, he was very public in the community, and was by no means a recluse. While speculation about his death may seem disrespectful to some, it doesn't change the fact that people are going to wonder about a guy who seemingly had zero health issues. Also, according to local police, drugs, alcohol, and foul play were not a factor in this case. That doesn't leave many other options. It could always be attributed to something along the lines of an unknown heart problem or sudden anuerysm, but, there is more than one local report out there that there may have something more tragic at work here. In any case, my heart goes out to Brad's fiance, who had the misfortune of finding him, in whatever state he was in. I've yet to meet anyone who knew Brad on a personal level who had anything but the highest praise for the guy. By all accounts, he was one of the good guys. Unfortunately, sometimes bad things happen to great people. RIP Brad!


John from Boston

I don't disagree with you about the right to talk about a public figure. It's the whole 'how dare you' attitude by some that suggests this thread has become disrespectful to Mr. Delp, when the whole thread started out with speculation about a possible suicide. And then to read 'you turn everything into talk about Journey', on a JOURNEY message board, while telling a participant that they need mental help is just too funny. And it's okay to talk about Shania's book when people are complimenting it, but it's not okay when it's being criticized?

Come on guys! I know there's been disagreements between some of these participants in the past, and I'm sure it'll happen again. When we continue to engage in debate with those we don't get along with, then we have no right to claim 'foul' down the road.

[larryfromnextdoor]

embarrassed at the path this thread has taken. I mean, you never know, someone important to me may be reading...

pretty thick sarcasim ,, no?

[donnaplease]

embarrassed at the path this thread has taken. I mean, you never know, someone important to me may be reading...

pretty thick sarcasim ,, no?

yes

[odessa]

Just a quick note to say I'm really new on this board and I don't know ANY of you and your history... I have no biases and no bone to pick.

But Deano, you sound like you have a problem. Nothing gets my back up more than someone who criticizes a published writer by saying they could do better and then hurling personal attacks.

Present it. Where's your published book? I'll buy it if you give me the link.

Just thought you might like to know that this sort of crap is really a turn-off to the newcomer to a board. Civilised conversation is really not that difficult to master.

With all due respect to the orginal subject, I must comment on this post...

I don’t have a bone to pick in the dog fight either. However, Deano does have a right to speak his mind regarding any product being marketed to the consumer (at large) via any website he reads, especially as he is a major contributor to the website. As long as Deano (or anyone else) is expected to pay for (said) product, they have every right to critique (said) product- regardless of whether the individual selling (said) product likes it or not! In this case, it’s a book being sold by a member here who gathered much of the supporting (public) information from easily accessed sources off the internet...which was their prerogative, however it does give Dean's critique merit.

Most successful writers rely on some form of media to sell their written work, as such, they are subject to reviews from Critics...its how their work sells (it’s called marketing). If you don’t like reading book reviews then that is your personal preference. The majority of the public DOES rely on some form of review. Many of the books that are best sellers (or listed on the New York Times as best sellers) have been subjected to critiques (good or bad) by major media outlets. This method allows the reading audience (at large) to grasp greater insights into whatever they would *potentially* purchase. As a “published author” a writer should know this and not have any problem with it. Nor should the writer indulge in a public war of words with those who provide negative commentary. It looks petty and demeans their product which they cannot separate from.

Regarding the reference of a “published” author; I was under the impression that the body of work noted is SELF published, in other words, PRINT ON DEMAND. Anyone can *self publish* any body of work using this method and claim they are a “Published author” or “writer with standing”. Therein lies the true technicality! There is a big difference having an independent entity behind One’s literary work and publishing it Oneself. Many publishing houses will not touch a self published writer after using such methods nor give it a second look. Again, Deano is correct here.

Lastly, If Deano was going to write a book, I am sure he has more than enough material (and sources) to produce a work of merit. He has had North American media exposure via the radio and print due to Tapegate. He has met with various members of the band and is known to them. If Deano decided to put together a manuscript (based on inside information about the band) he may very well get a Publishing House to back his work (with an editing department on site to proofread it). Potentially, Deano’s work could be serialized in magazines (of importance) gaining him greater exposure. It’s all about how Deano chooses to market his manuscript and himself. Many people would love to know who was the deep throat that provided Deano’s information for Tapegate. I am sure that whatever he decides to write, it would hold a level of fascination for the audience at large (not just because of *what* he’s writing about, but because of *Who* he is). Love him or hate him, people would defiantly be inclined to buy a book penned by him.

[yogi]

RIP Brad!!

Heres to the man that helped launch a million firsts, seconds, thirds, etc............

Your voice and your songs inspired an entire generation.

You will be missed by millions of people that you never even knew.

Rest In Peace.

[Rick]

Supposed to be an official press release on his death tomorrow.

[*Laura]

Just a quick note to say I'm really new on this board and I don't know ANY of you and your history... I have no biases and no bone to pick.

But Deano, you sound like you have a problem. Nothing gets my back up more than someone who criticizes a published writer by saying they could do better and then hurling personal attacks.

Present it. Where's your published book? I'll buy it if you give me the link.

Just thought you might like to know that this sort of crap is really a turn-off to the newcomer to a board. Civilised conversation is really not that difficult to master.

With all due respect to the orginal subject, I must comment on this post...

I don’t have a bone to pick in the dog fight either. However, Deano does have a right to speak his mind regarding any product being marketed to the consumer (at large) via any website he reads, especially as he is a major contributor to the website. As long as Deano (or anyone else) is expected to pay for (said) product, they have every right to critique (said) product- regardless of whether the individual selling (said) product likes it or not! In this case, it’s a book being sold by a member here who gathered much of the supporting (public) information from easily accessed sources off the internet...which was their prerogative, however it does give Dean's critique merit.

Most successful writers rely on some form of media to sell their written work, as such, they are subject to reviews from Critics...its how their work sells (it’s called marketing). If you don’t like reading book reviews then that is your personal preference. The majority of the public DOES rely on some form of review. Many of the books that are best sellers (or listed on the New York Times as best sellers) have been subjected to critiques (good or bad) by major media outlets. This method allows the reading audience (at large) to grasp greater insights into whatever they would *potentially* purchase. As a “published author” a writer should know this and not have any problem with it. Nor should the writer indulge in a public war of words with those who provide negative commentary. It looks petty and demeans their product which they cannot separate from.

Regarding the reference of a “published” author; I was under the impression that the body of work noted is SELF published, in other words, PRINT ON DEMAND. Anyone can *self publish* any body of work using this method and claim they are a “Published author” or “writer with standing”. Therein lies the true technicality! There is a big difference having an independent entity behind One’s literary work and publishing it Oneself. Many publishing houses will not touch a self published writer after using such methods nor give it a second look. Again, Deano is correct here.

Lastly, If Deano was going to write a book, I am sure he has more than enough material (and sources) to produce a work of merit. He has had North American media exposure via the radio and print due to Tapegate. He has met with various members of the band and is known to them. If Deano decided to put together a manuscript (based on inside information about the band) he may very well get a Publishing House to back his work (with an editing department on site to proofread it). Potentially, Deano’s work could be serialized in magazines (of importance) gaining him greater exposure. It’s all about how Deano chooses to market his manuscript and himself. Many people would love to know who was the deep throat that provided Deano’s information for Tapegate. I am sure that whatever he decides to write, it would hold a level of fascination for the audience at large (not just because of *what* he’s writing about, but because of *Who* he is). Love him or hate him, people would defiantly be inclined to buy a book penned by him.

Thank you,Odessa,that was a great post and I happen to agree with everything you said.

You must know that I have NO problem with criticism,in fact I welcome it,as it's the only way to learn.
However,I like constructive criticism,not attacks.

Two things:
- I know what's Deano's opinion on this book and I am fine with it.
However,I must object on one thing:this book is not a compilation of interviews,it is BASED on public interviews.That's the difference.
The rest is subject to everyone's personal opinions.Negative or positive,I appreciate them all.

- Yes,this book is self-published and printed on demand.It was a way to get it to the Steve Perry fans around the world.
As you probably know,I live in Romania,I write in Romanian and my other books are published in my country at one of the publishing houses from my country.
I have no interest of publishing anything outside Romania.
Steve Perry's bio was an attempt to put in print( write about) everything I have learned about him and then publish it in a way that it could get it to his fans.
That's all.I have chosen a simple and fast way and I don't see what the problem is.


Looking forward to read other books about Perry,Journey,Schon etc.

A last note: what bothered me was that the subject in this thread was not about my book,but Deano felt the need to bite.Not to criticize,but to bite.
I respond well to constructive criticism,but I snap when people just throw mean remarks my way.

Go back and read.I didn't start the book discussion.

This is definitely not the thread to continue such a discussion,I know,but felt the urge to respond.
No one is perfect.

[montyollie]

With all due respect to the orginal subject, I must comment on this post... *snip*

I don’t have a bone to pick in the dog fight either. However, Deano does have a right to speak his mind regarding any product being marketed to the consumer (at large) via any website he reads, especially as he is a major contributor to the website.

I didn't even notice anyone's post count until you mentioned it just now. Again, I don't think people should get to act like buffoons just because they are old timers or prolific posters. MHO.

All I'm saying is that to the newbie to this site, his post came off really offensive. That's all. I think sometimes it's easy to forget because you guys all seem to know each other so well and forgive the quirks in each others' personalities. I think too many people forget common courtesy on discussion boards.

[AR]

Cherish your favorite bands from the 70's. They will not be around forever.

[Rockindeano]

RIP Brad!!

Heres to the man that helped launch a million firsts, seconds, thirds, etc............

Your voice and your songs inspired an entire generation.

You will be missed by millions of people that you never even knew.

Rest In Peace.

I wish you would go rest in peace.

[Rockindeano]

Lastly, If Deano was going to write a book, I am sure he has more than enough material (and sources) to produce a work of merit. He has had North American media exposure via the radio and print due to Tapegate. He has met with various members of the band and is known to them. If Deano decided to put together a manuscript (based on inside information about the band) he may very well get a Publishing House to back his work (with an editing department on site to proofread it). Potentially, Deano’s work could be serialized in magazines (of importance) gaining him greater exposure. It’s all about how Deano chooses to market his manuscript and himself. Many people would love to know who was the deep throat that provided Deano’s information for Tapegate. I am sure that whatever he decides to write, it would hold a level of fascination for the audience at large (not just because of *what* he’s writing about, but because of *Who* he is). Love him or hate him, people would defiantly be inclined to buy a book penned by him.

Don't think for a moment I haven't considered writing a book. I can guarantee you it will outsell that crap Laura "wrote."

[KCfla]

Cherish your favorite bands from the 70's. They will not be around forever.

SO TRUE AR!

RIP Brad.
The only good thing about this is, when we all pass into the next "phase"- we'll get some really good music!

Blessings on his family, friends and loved ones.

PS- Let's leave the fighting to another thread y'all! PLEASE!

[Rick]

Cherish your favorite bands from the 70's. They will not be around forever.

SO TRUE AR!

RIP Brad.
The only good thing about this is, when we all pass into the next "phase"- we'll get some really good music!

Blessings on his family, friends and loved ones.

PS- Let's leave the fighting to another thread y'all! PLEASE!

What fighting? Was there fighting? Nope, just meaningful discourse. That happens on a message board.

[Rockindeano]

You must know that I have NO problem with criticism,in fact I welcome it,as it's the only way to learn.
However,I like constructive criticism,not attacks.

Really? I said PUBLICLY, tha your "book sucked." And you went ape shit.

Two things:
- I know what's Deano's opinion on this book and I am fine with it.

Doesn't sound like it.

However,I must object on one thing:this book is not a compilation of interviews,it is BASED on public interviews.That's the difference.
The rest is subject to everyone's personal opinions.Negative or positive,I appreciate them all.

Wow. You based your book on "public interviews?" Basically, you collected quotes off a message board and newspaper. Are you saying this was your basis for writing a bok, or is ths the closest you came? Either way, it sucks...Badly.

- Yes,this book is self-published and printed on demand.It was a way to get it to the Steve Perry fans around the world.
As you probably know,I live in Romania,I write in Romanian and my other books are published in my country at one of the publishing houses from my country.

Other books? You serious? Please list the titles and link them up. Look, I don't care if you write in Romanian, Russian or English, you are full of shit. Spelling is spelling is spelling. BS answer.

I have no interest of publishing anything outside Romania.

But you have NO problem selling it to Americans. Hmm. Fucking third world-ers.

Steve Perry's bio was an attempt to put in print( write about) everything I have learned about him and then publish it in a way that it could get it to his fans.
That's all.I have chosen a simple and fast way and I don't see what the problem is.

You don't? I do. You admittedly said this "book" was a compilation of peoples' interviews.. You "learned" interviews. Wow.

Looking forward to read other books about Perry,Journey,Schon etc.

Well neal has a book coming out this year, and now, I have one coming out too.

A last note: what bothered me was that the subject in this thread was not about my book,but Deano felt the need to bite.Not to criticize,but to bite.
I respond well to constructive criticism,but I snap when people just throw mean remarks my way.

Really? Look Laura, your timid BS friend Bullshited and you came flying in to rescue her. You still haven't accomplished dick.

Go back and read.I didn't start the book discussion.

I did. Your "book" sucks.

[Moon Beam]

You will be missed by millions of people that you never even knew.

First in another forum Yogi, now here, well said and YES he sure will be.

[Moon Beam]

From what I've read Dean'o, your just having a wee bit of
a hard time excepting a person's personal posting choices.
You may also be a tad bored.

The lady you question had a choice, just as you did when
you pitched a fit because she wouldn't bow to your request.
A couple folks also made a choice in telling you how they felt
about that as I am making a choice now.
Most of us love having you around Dean but I figure about as many
if not more would like to see you be able to speak your mind
without it going up in flames.

[AR]

I just said this on my forum, but would like to say it here too.

Brad Delp's voice used to play out of my parents' 8 track player on the way to school. Boston songs, along with Kiss, Cheap Trick, Journey, Elvis and many more remind me of my childhood.

I am devastated by this. Not like a friend or family member or anything - but it is still a loss. I have shed a tear, and this is something I hate to admit.

Thank you Brad.



Go see the bands that you love while you still have the chance.

[Saint John]

Suicide is probably the most selfish thing one could do to his/her loved ones. I would rather live through depression than put my family and friends through that. Suicide is a selfless, cowardly act in most instances.

[AR]

Suicide is probably the most selfish thing one could do to his/her loved ones. I would rather live through depression than put my family and friends through that. Suicide is a selfless, cowardly act in most instances.

I hope that is not what happened. Has that been proven?

I agree with you.

Really hope that isn't true. Regardless, it hurts just the same.

[Saint John]

Proven? No. But someone said they saw something leading from the tailpipe to the car and his body being removed. It doesn't make any sense, but does it ever? I hope it's not true for his family's sake.