Poll:What do you want from Steve Perry?

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What do you want from Steve Perry?

1.A new rock album and a major tour
9
11%
2.Putting together his own band and playing his greatest hits on tour
2
2%
3.A softer album backed up by a private club circuit
11
13%
4.Just a new album,no touring necessary
35
42%
5.A cover album
2
2%
6.A Christmas album
1
1%
7.Producing others,remastering(releasing) classic Journey material,b-vox-ing
1
1%
8.Initiating a Journey reunion
11
13%
9.Nothing,I'm enoying everything he has done in the past
10
12%
10.Writing songs for someone else to sing them.
1
1%
 
Total votes : 83

Postby PROPERRY » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:24 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I'm intrigued that a lot of loons do not want to see him tour.


It's NOT that I don't want to see him tour, I'D BE THERE, if he did, but Perry has expressed he is burnt out on touring, so a cd , a single, anything he wanted to do would be just fine with me. And if he is happy with his life the way it is , then that 's ok too, but I still got that other part of me that ALWAYS hopes & dreams he will sing again someday.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:29 am

PROPERRY wrote: Perry has expressed he is burnt out on touring,


Was that before or after he said "I think about touring I don't know how many times a day" on Behind The Music?
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:30 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote: Perry has expressed he is burnt out on touring,


Was that before or after he said "I think about touring I don't know how many times a day" on Behind The Music/


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Postby Playitloudforme » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:30 am

I definitely voted on what I wanted, not what I think is likely. I want a tour, dammit all. I screwed up big time and NEVER got to a concert when he was out there. Lesson learned...do NOT marry a man that thinks Bad Bad Leroy Brown is the epitome of rock music.
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Postby *Laura » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:34 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote: Perry has expressed he is burnt out on touring,


Was that before or after he said "I think about touring I don't know how many times a day" on Behind The Music?

Aw,come on,thinking of doing something is one thing and doing it for real is another. :idea:
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Postby Moon Beam » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:44 am

Playitloudforme wrote:I definitely voted on what I wanted, not what I think is likely. I want a tour, dammit all. I screwed up big time and NEVER got to a concert when he was out there. Lesson learned...do NOT marry a man that thinks Bad Bad Leroy Brown is the epitome of rock music.



Your far better in the musical Hubby game than I.
Mine loves Rap and I can't let him within 25 feet of any stereo. :lol:
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Postby PROPERRY » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:47 am

Shania wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
PROPERRY wrote: Perry has expressed he is burnt out on touring,


Was that before or after he said "I think about touring I don't know how many times a day" on Behind The Music?

Aw,come on,thinking of doing something is one thing and doing it for real is another. :idea:



Oh Shania, they don't really need answer to that question, that was just JoePa TRYING to give me a hard time. :lol:
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Postby SteveForever » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:48 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I'm intrigued that a lot of loons do not want to see him tour.


I don't think they leave the house very often.


:lol: I left the house 2x this past tour to see the new Journey perform, one time out of state, but you could be right, maybe old school Perry lovers just want to spin the cd's and dance around the house naked and eat snack cakes. (that's for you Strangegrey.)

I hope his voice HAS changed, would love to hear an older maybe even raspier voice that has been through life sing some new tunes. If we want the old Perry we still have our other stuff. :mrgreen: Bring whatever you got Steve.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:01 am

Moon Beam wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:I definitely voted on what I wanted, not what I think is likely. I want a tour, dammit all. I screwed up big time and NEVER got to a concert when he was out there. Lesson learned...do NOT marry a man that thinks Bad Bad Leroy Brown is the epitome of rock music.



Your far better in the musical Hubby game than I.
Mine loves Rap and I can't let him within 25 feet of any stereo. :lol:


Oh I am SO Sorry Moon... gaaaah. Isn't that constitution for justifiable homicide?????
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:56 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I'm intrigued that a lot of loons do not want to see him tour.



It's not that I wouldn't love to see him tour, I just try not to wish for things that I don't think are likely to happen. I actually voted or the #3 option with the small private club tour.
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Postby Perry86fan » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:04 am

ohsherrie wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I'm intrigued that a lot of loons do not want to see him tour.



It's not that I wouldn't love to see him tour, I just try not to wish for things that I don't think are likely to happen. I actually voted or the #3 option with the small private club tour.



Oh Sherrie i love that about the loon.hehe :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:08 am

strangegrey wrote:I know I'm going to get crucified for this...but I voted that I just want him to stay where he is...retired.

A few reasons...

#1, I think, quite possibly, his voice is lost. Proof positive of that is what he sounded like at the White Sox parade. Simply awful! Could he get it back? sure...but it requires work, like bringing back any muscle. The guy is nearing 60 years old...and one look at some of those beach pictures of Gov. Arnold will show that the older you get, the harder it is to keep the muscles up. So here's a guy that's been happily out of the game for over 10 years...approaching 60...is anyone going to tell me with a straight face that he's going to put in the required work to just get his voice back to something respectable that can hold up over the course of an album (and he's no sammy hagar, he takes his time in the studio)...or tour or both!? I doubt it.

#2 The more I think about it now, the less I actually *liked* what SP did with Journey in the later years. You can't deny there were magical moments, but TBF was jam packed with ballads (and some really sappy, make-me-want-to-take-a-groaning-shit ballads)...Even the direction that ROR wasn't exactly what I would like to hear from the band now...now...I loved FTLOSM...but I think what was missing on TBF, is the tension of Neal's playing aggression with the silkiness of Perry's voice.

#2.5 In combination with the above, I *like* the tension that JSS brings back to the table. Sure there'll be sappy songs, hey, it's Journey!! But at least there's the promise of some ass-kicking with JSS leading the pack. If Perry came back, the resulting album would contain 1-2 rock tracks and 8-9 ballads...Not a way to go out in my opinion.

#3 This is where I'm going to get crucified....if anyone suggests that Loon population is bad now...just wait until Perry records something or books a tour and goes "Hey, guys!!! I'm Baaaaack!!" It'll be so unbearable online, that the majority of loon hunters will want to slit their wrists in desperation! :wink:



Frank, Frank, Frank. Tsk Tsk Tsk. :?

#1. The White Sox game wasn't proof of anything except that Steve was yelling out an impromptu rendition of that song with a bunch of ball players under less than desirable conditions after having yelled for a week at ballgames.

#2. ROR and TBF are my favorite Journey albums, so I guess that's just a matter of personal musical taste.

#2.5. I like JSS with Journey too. I don't want Perry back with Journey and haven't since they decided not to wait for him. I do want Perry to sing again though.

#3. I don't see why you think it would be harder to get along on line. I think most of us would be just happy to have him back. It would be the best of all possible situations. Perry solo and Jeff with Journey. The trouble would start when the goons and wigglers started making snide or snarky comments about him to try and stir shit up.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:12 am

ohsherrie wrote:#2.5. I like JSS with Journey too. I don't want Perry back with Journey and haven't since they decided not to wait for him. I do want Perry to sing again though.


One minor quibble: I'd change "not to wait" to "to stop waiting."

Other than that, we're in good shape. :)
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Postby chf34jmac » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:40 am

While any one of those options would be great, the bottom line here is that SP "needs to shit or get off the pot" Stop teasing everyone with "I think about touring or I am really having fun recording in the studio doing background vocals". If your gonna do something for Christs sake just DO IT!
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Postby Matthew » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:46 am

strangegrey wrote:#2 The more I think about it now, the less I actually *liked* what SP did with Journey in the later years. You can't deny there were magical moments, but TBF was jam packed with ballads (and some really sappy, make-me-want-to-take-a-groaning-shit ballads)...


Well, TBF had fewer ballads than Arrival did - and nothing recorded by Journey in the Perry era was as sappy and turd-inducing as "All The Way" - so I wouldn't put the blame entirely at Perry's door.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:47 am

Matthew wrote:nothing recorded by Journey in the Perry era was as sappy and turd-inducing as "All The Way"


Other than When You Love A Woman.
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Postby Matthew » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:52 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Matthew wrote:nothing recorded by Journey in the Perry era was as sappy and turd-inducing as "All The Way"


Other than When You Love A Woman.


Oh Red...you are so spot-on when it comes to Journey up until around the mid-1990s. It's almost uncanny how often I agree with what you say. But then you lose the plot horribly with all that Augeri nonsense - and this bizarro dislike toward the utterly triumphant balladeering that is "When You Love A Woman" baffles me too. :)
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:58 am

Matthew wrote: this bizarro dislike toward the utterly triumphant balladeering that is "When You Love A Woman" baffles me too. :)


Well, for me the cornerstone of the problem lies in the fact that I see "utterly," and "triumphant," and "balladeering" as oxmoronic when deployed all in unison.
Ballads? I quote David Lee Roth speaking of healthfoods: "No thanks. I can live withOUT 'em."

Beyond that the song's every bit as drippy as All The Way.
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Postby Matthew » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:04 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Matthew wrote: this bizarro dislike toward the utterly triumphant balladeering that is "When You Love A Woman" baffles me too. :)


Well, for me the cornerstone of the problem lies in the fact that I see "utterly," and "triumphant," and "balladeering" as oxmoronic when deployed all in unison.
Ballads? I quote David Lee Roth speaking of healthfoods: "No thanks. I can live withOUT 'em."

Beyond that the song's every bit as drippy as All The Way.



All The Way is what I'd call a "boyband ballad". Whereas WYLAW is the sound of a majestic rock group.

By the way, Red...where do you stand on all the other ballads? Do they all leave you cold? It seems weird for any Journey fan to dislike ballads but maybe some of us are just more in touch with their feelings than others are. :)
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:05 am

i want it all !! i want a solo album from perry with lots of rockers and a fun spirit,

i want a new journey cd with jss with lots of groove and vibe and heavy guitar,,

an augeri solo album with lots of writing colaberators and heavy harmonies,,

all tour for a year, then perry comes back to journey along side with jss or jss gets his band back together and makes a solid forceful cd with a major label and jeff gets rich and loves what he is doing ..

a neal solo cd where his talents are finally recognized ,, a real album from him with big guitars and vocals ,,

and andrew to move to the USA and becomes a successful rock n roll consultant and sells melodic rock to deano

8) it could happen , as a matter of fact , i walked outside today and the flowers bloomed up and the little birds began to sing,, i came to work and didnt have to stop at a single red light.. and i got a refund from a credit card company,, :wink:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:16 am

Matthew wrote:[
By the way, Red...where do you stand on all the other ballads?


Aside from the second 1/2 of Little Girl and After The Fall which I classify as ballady but was roundly dismissed one time when I did (which prolly speaks to why I like it, maybe it ISN'T a ballad) I don't care if ever hear one again. Including OA and F.
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Postby SteveForever » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:23 am

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:i want it all !! i want a solo album from perry with lots of rockers and a fun spirit,

i want a new journey cd with jss with lots of groove and vibe and heavy guitar,,

an augeri solo album with lots of writing colaberators and heavy harmonies,,

all tour for a year, then perry comes back to journey along side with jss or jss gets his band back together and makes a solid forceful cd with a major label and jeff gets rich and loves what he is doing ..

a neal solo cd where his talents are finally recognized ,, a real album from him with big guitars and vocals ,,

and andrew to move to the USA and becomes a successful rock n roll consultant and sells melodic rock to deano

8) it could happen , as a matter of fact , i walked outside today and the flowers bloomed up and the little birds began to sing,, i came to work and didnt have to stop at a single red light.. and i got a refund from a credit card company,, :wink:


OMG, awesome post Larry!!! you got money back? gee... 8)
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:27 am

Matthew wrote:All The Way is what I'd call a "boyband ballad". Whereas WYLAW is the sound of a majestic rock group.


And had the singers in those songs been reversed, your opinion of the songs would also be reversed.

You are one of the biggest loons out there, Matt. But you can stay. :lol:
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Postby strangegrey » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:54 am

Matthew wrote:Well, TBF had fewer ballads than Arrival did - and nothing recorded by Journey in the Perry era was as sappy and turd-inducing as "All The Way" - so I wouldn't put the blame entirely at Perry's door.


Where'd you learn to count? I count 6 ballads on TBF and 5 on Arrival...

And, here's the kicker....the songs on Arrival have that tension I was referring to. There's no said tension on TBF...half those songs have no business being called 'journey'...alright, that's stretching it a bit...but shit, a good amount of the tunes on TBF sound like SP solo...Forever In Blue is a good example...it's a great song, but the Neal's playing lacks that fire...the tension between Perry and Neal isn't there.

You wanna talk turd inducing, look no further than the following:

Dont Be Down on me baby
Easy To Fall
It's Just The Rain

Ugh, I can go on.

TBF to me, is the perfect example of mixed emotions....several great songs book ended by alot of sappy shit that I could be perfectly happy never hearing again...Thank God for CDs and MP3s...If this were 20 years ago and I had to routinely fast forward through that crap, I'd have an aneurysm.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:11 am

Agree, SG.
I've said it before. The Arrival songs to me had "it" coming together where as something was missing on the TBF songs, even the best of the lot like One More or MOL do not sound as good, it doesn't flow the way Higher Place does.
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Postby Deb » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:15 am

strangegrey wrote:
Matthew wrote:Well, TBF had fewer ballads than Arrival did - and nothing recorded by Journey in the Perry era was as sappy and turd-inducing as "All The Way" - so I wouldn't put the blame entirely at Perry's door.


Where'd you learn to count? I count 6 ballads on TBF and 5 on Arrival...

And, here's the kicker....the songs on Arrival have that tension I was referring to. There's no said tension on TBF...half those songs have no business being called 'journey'...alright, that's stretching it a bit...but shit, a good amount of the tunes on TBF sound like SP solo...Forever In Blue is a good example...it's a great song, but the Neal's playing lacks that fire...the tension between Perry and Neal isn't there.

You wanna talk turd inducing, look no further than the following:

Dont Be Down on me baby
Easy To Fall
It's Just The Rain

Ugh, I can go on.

TBF to me, is the perfect example of mixed emotions....several great songs book ended by alot of sappy shit that I could be perfectly happy never hearing again...Thank God for CDs and MP3s...If this were 20 years ago and I had to routinely fast forward through that crap, I'd have an aneurysm.


It's funny how everybody's preferences vary...........IMO, Easy to Fall is one of their best ballads in a long time. :D
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Postby strangegrey » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:15 am

Dunno, I mean, shit...the songs on Arrival are just better....It might not be perry singing them, but to me that have that classic journey tension....1/2 the songs on TBF do as well...but the other half just sound like FTLOSM II to me...
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Postby strangegrey » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:16 am

strungout wrote: Easy to Fall is one of their best ballads in a long time. :D


Ick, I don't need to stock ex-lax in the house, I just play one of the ones mentioned above...and it takes about 5 minutes...
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:21 am

SG and 13, you are so wrong it isn't funny. Matthew is definitely a Loon and is a wacked out one at that. However, TBF is three times the record that Arrival is.

13, you should call your dad, Jerry, and ask for advice. Arrival is shit compared to TBF.

This board does nothing for me anylonger, but I can't read this crap and let it go by unchecked.

back to your scheduled borefest.
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Postby styxman » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:21 am

LarryFromNextDoor wrote:i want it all !! i want a solo album from perry with lots of rockers and a fun spirit,

i want a new journey cd with jss with lots of groove and vibe and heavy guitar,,

an augeri solo album with lots of writing colaberators and heavy harmonies,,

all tour for a year, then perry comes back to journey along side with jss or jss gets his band back together and makes a solid forceful cd with a major label and jeff gets rich and loves what he is doing ..

a neal solo cd where his talents are finally recognized ,, a real album from him with big guitars and vocals ,,

and andrew to move to the USA and becomes a successful rock n roll consultant and sells melodic rock to deano

8) it could happen , as a matter of fact , i walked outside today and the flowers bloomed up and the little birds began to sing,, i came to work and didnt have to stop at a single red light.. and i got a refund from a credit card company,, :wink:


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