How many of you were banned from Journey Back Talk Forums?

[Rick]

Regarding Meanie, is he on this board?

I've never seen that username in this forum. You can check the memberlist and see if you can find something like that in there.

[Benzman]

Thanks Rick - I have been reading this board for some time now and have not seen him on here.

Monker - what was Meanies other names he posted by and is he still on the net? He was a pretty funny guy - he would get pissed about something and shoot the shit for about a week and then would be nice for a while. I didn't know if the guy had multiple personalities or was just being funny. He was definitely funny!

[conversationpc]

Thanks Rick - I have been reading this board for some time now and have not seen him on here.

Monker - what was Meanies other names he posted by and is he still on the net? He was a pretty funny guy - he would get pissed about something and shoot the shit for about a week and then would be nice for a while. I didn't know if the guy had multiple personalities or was just being funny. He was definitely funny!

He was an idiot. I got into several scrapes with him. He eventually got banned for posting stories about himself that made himself look like some kind of hero. They turned to be patently false.

He had an easily recognizable pattern...He'd get into an argument on the forum with someone. He'd call them all sorts of nasty names and the argument would go on for awhile. Then, out of the blue, he'd cease arguing and start another thread with a story about him doing something or other to help out some stranger and make himself look like a great guy. Then he'd disappear for a few days, come back to the forum, and start the same cycle all over again. I noticed this after getting into a handful of arguments with the guy. He was a real piece of work.

[PROPERRY]

Sorry if I'm not looking at the Journey world through shitcolored glass as you two are. My post is not a bait, it's facing reality. It's the way I see it.

Just go away. Now.

Oh come on, Andrew, HOTS just gave her OWN opinion just like a everyone else does on this board. Nothing wrong with that either.

[Red13JoePa]

Andrew's board, Andrew's rules, Andrew's prerogative Linus.






There simply MUST be a picture of you and your blanket beside "Passive/Agressive" in the dictionary.

[PROPERRY]

Andrew's board, Andrew's rules, Andrew's prerogative Linus.






There simply MUST be a picture of you and your blanket beside "Passive/Agressive" in the dictionary.

yea, it is Andrew's board, so don't speak for him!

[Red13JoePa]

Hey, you speak as the voice of the disenfranchised oppressed victims and I speak for the voice of diabolical tyranny.

It's not a democracy. Dr Evil McNiece can waltz in here any time he feels like and say whatever he feels like to whomever he feels like. We have to accept it b/c it is his place and we are his guests. He can bounce whomever he feels like for whatever reason he feels like. I also happen to think he uses remarkable restraint and tact with those powers.

He is your benefactor here.


He provides you your forum to write the Great Pumpkin whenever you see fit, just in case anyone should get the impression you DON'T believe.

[Socratic Methodist]

Along these same lines......

How many left during the first exodus for 'The Cooler'?

AND

How many left 'The Cooler' for that hedonistic gin joint of Maui Tom's called, 'Tommy's Tiki Bar'? That guy was a douchebag.

[Socratic Methodist]

Hey, you speak as the voice of the disenfranchised oppressed victims and I speak for the voice of diabolical tyranny.

It's not a democracy. Dr Evil McNiece can waltz in here any time he feels like and say whatever he feels like to whomever he feels like. We have to accept it b/c it is his place and we are his guests. He can bounce whomever he feels like for whatever reason he feels like. I also happen to think he uses remarkable restraint and tact with those powers.

He is your benefactor here.


He provides you your forum to write the Great Pumpkin whenever you see fit, just in case anyone should get the impression you DON'T believe.

Actually, Red, you speak for the voice of: LOOK AT ME. ATTENTION! Aren't I the cool one?!

and I'm just kidding, so don't get all upset.........

[Red13JoePa]

You're still alive?

[Socratic Methodist]

You're still alive?

Yeah, I'm still alive. I'm trying to rerach that elusive 4-month mark of yours.

[Red13JoePa]

Shrink that stupid signature, will you for chrissakes?



Andrew should bill you for that thing.



And shut up.

[Rick]

Shrink that stupid signature, will you for chrissakes?



Andrew should bill you for that thing.



And shut up.

LMAO!! No one said a bad word about that sig until he put Lumpy on there.

[Socratic Methodist]

Shrink that stupid signature, will you for chrissakes?



Andrew should bill you for that thing.



And shut up.

What’s sad is that I offer to bury the hatchet and you’re compelled to ignore the funeral.
I would use the yardstick analogy here again, but it fell on deaf ears before.......

And because this exercise has grown tiresome and all too easy, I will mercifully end my participation and allow you to sit with whatever you may have gleaned from it...

See ya on the other threads where your chances are better to effectively counterpunch.

[Red13JoePa]

Go write one of your patented poster psych profiles on Linus up there.


That should rid us of you for at LEAST 3 seconds.

[Socratic Methodist]

Go write one of your patented poster psych profiles on Linus up there.


That should rid us of you for at LEAST 3 seconds.

Nah, I'm much more interested in this:

[Gordon from Edinburgh]

Just thought I'd see how many of you were banned from Journey's Back Talk Forum back in 2001/2002 for expressing your disagreement over the band's decision to replace Steve Perry. Here's a little excerpt from an article on journey-zone.com that accurately describes what happened back then:

Towards a Constructive Solution
Original Publication Date: September 23, 2002

The problems discussed in previous editorials and Op/Eds indicate that something is very, very wrong in the Journey world. Low-ranking management personnel, both paid and unpaid, have taken it upon themselves to abuse what power Journey has given them over the fan base. The most obvious instances of this abuse of power can be seen in the massive amount of people who have been banned or otherwise censored on Back Talk, the band's official forum. Further evidence that this has gotten out of hand can be seen in how one of the "moderators" of that forum, Journeycat, would actually take it upon herself to order the owner of a private tribute website to remove an editorial with which she disagreed (see "Letter to the Editor", by Journeycat, September 7, 2002). The recent Op/Ed by TowandaRG (September 13, 2002) has served to shed even more light on some of the more dastardly doings of lower management.

In order to solve this problem, we must first identify it, get to the root of it. We know that power, to whatever degree it is possessed, is a corrupting influence. Some handle its temptations better than others--and that is all the more reason for those who dole out the power to be extra careful in choosing its recipients. In selecting "moderators" from among the fan base, management elevated certain fans into positions of power over other fans, thereby creating a fan hierarchy. And by endorsing Back Talk as the official band forum, they have explicitly acknowledged that hierarchy. No fan loves the music of Journey any more than any other fan; no fan should get any special privileges not available to other fans.

Given that it is the Back Talk forum--and its explicit endorsement as the official band forum--which has created this hierarchy among Journey fans, we must now ask the purpose of having an official band forum is in the first place. Why is there a Back Talk? Well, there are two reasons. The first is to provide a band-sanctioned home for the fans, thereby maintaining goodwill for the band among the fan base. This was especially important after the virtual defection of a large portion of the fan base over the replacement of Steve Perry. The second reason for the existence of an official forum is to provide a sounding board for the band members and their creativity. The official forum aids the band members when it comes to the opinion of the fan base on any number of subjects pertaining to the future direction of the band. It helps the band members know what they've done right--or wrong--so that they can improve upon their current level of creativity.

In attempting to satisfy its first duty, to provide a welcome home for the fan base, Back Talk has a muddled record. Admittedly, the existence of multiple moderators is a response to the forum's initial failure in this capacity. The former webmaster of Journeytheband.Com, Mike Sorrentino (a.k.a. "Skylord") obviously had his hands full when it came to building the official band website and moderating the two forums that then existed--the General Forum and "Ask Journey." The incessant fighting over the lead singer debate (and other less-remembered battles) was more than any one person could handle, so the decision to increase the amount of moderators seemed logical, in order to help provide a welcome home for Journey fans. Let's face it, as the posted Back Talk rules suggest, constant bashing of fellow Journey fans or band members is uncalled for. But then the newly empowered "moderators" began to go too far. Persons were banned not for repeatedly bashing others, but for refusing to change their opinions. Before long, persons started to get banned for questioning the motivations of the "moderators." "Bashing" became synonymous with "criticizing." In attempting to bring Back Talk back from one extreme--unmonitored strife--the "moderators" went too far in the opposite direction--censorship and tyranny. As a result, a large percentage of the Journey fan base, feeling unwelcome, abandoned Back Talk for other existing forums--and some even started forums of their own.

And how has Back Talk satisfied its second duty--providing a sounding board for the band members to consult on the feelings of the fan base for their current level of creativity? On that score, Back Talk's record is abysmal. There are many Journey fans--even fans of Steve Augeri--who would like to provide the band with constructive criticism on their latest release, Red 13. There are also many fans that would like to provide constructive criticism on the operation and management of the "Under the Radar" tour. Unfortunately they have not been allowed to voice their criticism, for whenever they have made any such attempts the "moderators" have shut down their threads and deleted their posts. Frankly, "moderators" have even been known to edit the posts of others, when they have uncovered content not to their liking. In this environment, Journey fans are not free to critique the creativity of the band. And without being able to depend on such constructive criticism, the band, surrounded by "yes men" and others who keep their jobs by making the band feel good about themselves and their products, will fail to rise above their current invisibility. The band may have decided to call this tour "Under the Radar" of their own volition. But if the forum continues to censor constructive criticism, they may never get back out above the "radar" of the music industry again.

Now then, how do we solve this problem? As Victor Hugo, the great nineteenth-century French author said, "Tear down this rickety old system...and reconstruct it." Back Talk has failed to meet its dual obligation, and--through the actions of the fan hierarchy it has created--it has served to further divide the Journey fan base. For these faults it should not be maintained as the official band forum. There are in fact a multitude of forums out there that provide a welcome home for Journey fans, allow them to critique the band, and are "moderately" moderated. Many of them can be found in the "Forums" page of the PORTAL Section of Jrnydv.Com. The most popular at this time appear to be the VH1.Com Journey Forum, the MelodicRock.Com Journey Forum, and the Rock and Roll Forum, which discusses many rock acts but was started by Journey fans.

Being one of the few official band forums in the industry, Back Talk started for all the right reasons. Unfortunately, it has failed. The time has come to shut it down and end the unfair hierarchy of the privileged fans. Only then can Journey and its management move on with clean hands and the knowledge that it has done what it can to right the wrongs that have been committed in their name.

Thoughts?

I was warned twice that i may have to "get my coat" and at least one thread was edited and some were pulled completely. So much for free speech huh?

[RedWingFan]

Go write one of your patented poster psych profiles on Linus up there.


That should rid us of you for at LEAST 3 seconds.

Nah, I'm much more interested in this:

Perfect. Except for the tramp stamp.

[conversationpc]

Go write one of your patented poster psych profiles on Linus up there.


That should rid us of you for at LEAST 3 seconds.

Nah, I'm much more interested in this:

Perfect. Except for the tramp stamp.

Yeah, I don't get the attraction some people have for tattoos. I can't stand 'em.

Tramp stamp...I like that.

[Socratic Methodist]

Go write one of your patented poster psych profiles on Linus up there.


That should rid us of you for at LEAST 3 seconds.

Nah, I'm much more interested in this:

Perfect. Except for the tramp stamp.

Yeah, I don't get the attraction some people have for tattoos. I can't stand 'em.

Tramp stamp...I like that.

Yeah, I don't get the attraction some people have for savatage. I can't stand 'em.

[squirt1]

I never joined . I contacted a mod and stated an opinion and she threatened to contact my carrier. I called them and they laughed and said someone must be alful touchy. That rah-rah place is similar to Russia and China IMO. I wonder what they do now for their daily little power trips ?

[squirt1]

Correct the above to awful. I can't believe what I type sometimes !

[Behshad]

Correct the above to awful. I can't believe what I type sometimes !

You should try "edit " sometimes

[Monker]

Hey, you speak as the voice of the disenfranchised oppressed victims and I speak for the voice of diabolical tyranny.

It's not a democracy. Dr Evil McNiece can waltz in here any time he feels like and say whatever he feels like to whomever he feels like. We have to accept it b/c it is his place and we are his guests. He can bounce whomever he feels like for whatever reason he feels like. I also happen to think he uses remarkable restraint and tact with those powers.

I find the above very ironic.

Isn't the above EXACTLY what most in this thread say BT did for years?

The above applies there too...just substitute "Journey" for "Andrew".

[Monker]

Thanks Rick - I have been reading this board for some time now and have not seen him on here.

Monker - what was Meanies other names he posted by and is he still on the net? He was a pretty funny guy - he would get pissed about something and shoot the shit for about a week and then would be nice for a while. I didn't know if the guy had multiple personalities or was just being funny. He was definitely funny!

He was an idiot. I got into several scrapes with him. He eventually got banned for posting stories about himself that made himself look like some kind of hero. They turned to be patently false.

He had an easily recognizable pattern...He'd get into an argument on the forum with someone. He'd call them all sorts of nasty names and the argument would go on for awhile. Then, out of the blue, he'd cease arguing and start another thread with a story about him doing something or other to help out some stranger and make himself look like a great guy. Then he'd disappear for a few days, come back to the forum, and start the same cycle all over again. I noticed this after getting into a handful of arguments with the guy. He was a real piece of work.

Oh, when I first read the above, I thought you were talking about Dean - LOL!

[Monker]

Thanks Rick - I have been reading this board for some time now and have not seen him on here.

Monker - what was Meanies other names he posted by and is he still on the net? He was a pretty funny guy - he would get pissed about something and shoot the shit for about a week and then would be nice for a while. I didn't know if the guy had multiple personalities or was just being funny. He was definitely funny!

I don't know if he's still around. As for multiple nicks...don't know. The only two I remember were "Meanine" and "Mr.Mean", or something like that...Frank or Sky may know of others. He quit BT early after it went to JourneyMusic.com...he showed up on VH1 a few years ago, very briefly. I think he simply got bored of the "Perry wars".

[Monker]

Hmmmm.....I was a member of BT since early '01. I don't remember any 'Towanda' incident'....what year did it happen?

<Towanda was around before Sky's forum became part of the official site. '97-98...something like that.

>

I remember her I too am one of the fossils that have been around for a looong time - not really that old, just got into the internet just when message boards were getting popular. I remember subscribing to Monkers board when I believe it was run through FTP (maybe early 1995) - is that correct Monker? Maybe not, but I know that it was early stage and in the beginning would elicit about 4-5 messages a day. About as many as elicited here in 1 second!

Regarding Towanda, the main thing I remember about her was she talked up this website she was creating and that she had been working on it for years (she states 10 years in the message that Skylord referenced). However, when it came out, it looked like it has been thrown together in a few days at most. Her site is still up (thanks Skylord for the trip back in time) but does not appear to be active.

Regarding Meanie, is he on this board?[/quote]

[Liam]

Nah, I'm much more interested in this:

GodDAMN that looks delicious. I need to get laid.

[RedWingFan]

Nah, I'm much more interested in this:

GodDAMN that looks delicious. I need to get laid.

Dude getting laid won't help. I just got laid an hour ago and I'd still like to tap that

[Liam]

Nah, I'm much more interested in this:

GodDAMN that looks delicious. I need to get laid.

Dude getting laid won't help. I just got laid an hour ago and I'd still like to tap that

It's been well over a month for me....SHIT.