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Re: The SRV legend's been challenged.

Postby stevew2 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:27 pm

StoneCold wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Neal doesnt have anything on SRV,plus he can sing


Bullshit
. As good as SRV was, Neal Schon is better. Neal can play everything, better than SRV, period.

Let's not get carried away and let our emotions cloud the rightful talents of this guy.


Now that's quite a statement.

"Neal Schon is a better guitarist than Stevie Ray Vaughan."

I hope you're just basing this on personal tastes.

I enjoy a lot Neal's solo work and can't believe Voice was nominated over Beyond The Thunder or Piranha Blues. A couple of the songs on Voice I can't stand (Hero, My Heart Will Go On). Picking those two songs to cover says "sellout" to me.

But to say he's BETTER than Stevie Ray? Not in my opinion, but I'm interested in knowing your reasoning.

Busted ,He won them Grammys, not just nominated for one!! The fucker could sing and play the guitar,one of a kind,he didnt lipp or have to worry about singers.He sang his own shit live!!, everytime,It is a shame he is dead. No more debate for me
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GRAMMY Winner - 1993 - 35th Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: The Sky Is Crying (Album)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble

GRAMMY Winner - 1993 - 35th Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: Little Wing (Track)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble

GRAMMY Winner - 1991 - 33rd Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: Family Style (Album)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Jimmie Vaughan

GRAMMY Winner - 1991 - 33rd Annual Grammy Awards
Title of the Work: "D/FW" (Track)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Jimmie Vaughan

GRAMMY Winner - 1990 - 32nd Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: In Step (Album)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble

He won another Grammy in '85 but I'm too lazy to find that one.
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:44 pm

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fredinator wrote:While we're (me) on the subject of SRV, here is an unplugged MTV 12 string acoustic guitar solo he did--he is FANTASTIC!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJYtcGBPovo

Andrew doesn't have a crying emoticon with a big wad of tissues in its hands, darnit, or I'd put it right here.


oh that's just about awesome!

I was in Austin this weekend---EVERYWHERE I went I heard SRV. my daughter sez DUH-it's Austin.

thanks for that. sorry to interrupt.


I miss SRV. :( How was ACL?


freakin HOT!!! as was Joss Stone!! dang that girl can sing da blues. she was singing "thank God for hair clips ba----b-aaaaay!!" hehe

and Bjork-insanely amazing. wow! And anytime a girl marching band director can see a brass choir --3 french horns, 3 trumpets, 2 trombones and a tuba--all girls!!--on stage (not in the pit) at a rock concert is a dang good time!! One of Bjork's speakers caught on fire before the encore. I told you it was freakin hot..........

JSS needs to do ACL. I'm gonna get him some phone #s.


Burning speaker? :lol: Sounds like a lot of fun. Hopefully Fredinator will let us know how it went tonight with Bob Dylan. I thought about going, but the heat and crowds are pretty rough out there.


yup but it was worth it!!

the crowd wasn't that bad. it was packed but manageable.
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:49 pm

nutz4Neal wrote:
fredinator wrote:He was good--it's too freakin' sad. Are there any young guitar players coming up who are like him, or is that style gone forever?



Neal *was* good!? Hell, he *IS* good!

But to answer your question, he has a 19 yr. old son, Miles, who is A-W-E-S-S-M-E!
He's very muxh like his dad but also has a unique style of his own..check him out.



Maybe I imagined this or something??? But is it true that Miles Schon is in a band with Steve Smith's son?

If so, does anyone have any info on that band?
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Postby fredinator » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:47 pm

I would think if you wanted to listen to Miles Schon you could find a clip of him on YouTube... But, since I'm still stuck on SRV, I found these clips on YouTube: one where he is very young and is playing at Antone's with Albert King; and the other is of him on TV in Japan and he is a little bombed, but very, very sweet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7CBi7U20Po

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xsGP93BpHI

To me, he had a special kind of charisma--sweet and sexy. and probably a lot of fun...
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Postby nutz4Neal » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:01 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Maybe I imagined this or something??? But is it true that Miles Schon is in a band with Steve Smith's son?

If so, does anyone have any info on that band?


Miles played in a band with Carlos' son for a short period but I've never heard about him playing with Smitty's son..could have happened 'tho. While still in high school he formed a band called Diamond Rust, they played in some small clubs in and around the San Francisco area; however, Miles is currently doing it solo and doing quite well for himself..the young Schon is very good. He's in Germany and sat in with a band there, TIMELIGHT, for Germany's Woodstock. Unless things change, when he returns home in early Oct., he'll be doing a Vegas gig for about a week.
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Postby Arkansas » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:26 am

Rockindeano wrote:The next big guitar player, IMO, is Kenny Wayne Shepard. Dude is the shit.


Don't know if he's just now getting out to CA or not, but KWS has been playing bars and county fairs here in the South since he was a teenager. Yes, he is a prodigy...could eventually be one of the greatests. 'Ledbetter Heights' is one of the best debuts I've ever heard.
http://wc06.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=a ... ql5ldke~T1


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Re: The SRV legend's been challenged.

Postby nikki » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:41 am

stevew2 wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Neal doesnt have anything on SRV,plus he can sing


Bullshit
. As good as SRV was, Neal Schon is better. Neal can play everything, better than SRV, period.

Let's not get carried away and let our emotions cloud the rightful talents of this guy.


Now that's quite a statement.

"Neal Schon is a better guitarist than Stevie Ray Vaughan."

I hope you're just basing this on personal tastes.

I enjoy a lot Neal's solo work and can't believe Voice was nominated over Beyond The Thunder or Piranha Blues. A couple of the songs on Voice I can't stand (Hero, My Heart Will Go On). Picking those two songs to cover says "sellout" to me.

But to say he's BETTER than Stevie Ray? Not in my opinion, but I'm interested in knowing your reasoning.

Busted ,He won them Grammys, not just nominated for one!! The fucker could sing and play the guitar,one of a kind,he didnt lipp or have to worry about singers.He sang his own shit live!!, everytime,It is a shame he is dead. No more debate for me
---------------------------------------------------------------

GRAMMY Winner - 1993 - 35th Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: The Sky Is Crying (Album)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble

GRAMMY Winner - 1993 - 35th Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: Little Wing (Track)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble

GRAMMY Winner - 1991 - 33rd Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: Family Style (Album)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Jimmie Vaughan

GRAMMY Winner - 1991 - 33rd Annual Grammy Awards
Title of the Work: "D/FW" (Track)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Jimmie Vaughan

GRAMMY Winner - 1990 - 32nd Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: In Step (Album)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble

He won another Grammy in '85 but I'm too lazy to find that one.


I'm a huge SRV fan myself, but I can't really say that he was better tha Neal or vice versa. It basically comes down to listening preferences. Two different styles, but both masterful at what they do. Neal might not be my favorite person right now, but I have enormous respect for his creativity. The man has earned that, even from those who don't care for his style. SRV will always be my favorite player, though.
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Re: The SRV legend's been challenged.

Postby StoneCold » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:48 am

Rockindeano wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
stevew2 wrote:Neal doesnt have anything on SRV,plus he can sing


Bullshit
. As good as SRV was, Neal Schon is better. Neal can play everything, better than SRV, period.

Let's not get carried away and let our emotions cloud the rightful talents of this guy.


Now that's quite a statement.

"Neal Schon is a better guitarist than Stevie Ray Vaughan."

I hope you're just basing this on personal tastes.

I enjoy a lot Neal's solo work and can't believe Voice was nominated over Beyond The Thunder or Piranha Blues. A couple of the songs on Voice I can't stand (Hero, My Heart Will Go On). Picking those two songs to cover says "sellout" to me.

But to say he's BETTER than Stevie Ray? Not in my opinion, but I'm interested in knowing your reasoning.

---------------------------------------------------------------

GRAMMY Winner - 1993 - 35th Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: The Sky Is Crying (Album)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble

GRAMMY Winner - 1993 - 35th Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: Little Wing (Track)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble

GRAMMY Winner - 1991 - 33rd Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: Family Style (Album)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Jimmie Vaughan

GRAMMY Winner - 1991 - 33rd Annual Grammy Awards
Title of the Work: "D/FW" (Track)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Jimmie Vaughan

GRAMMY Winner - 1990 - 32nd Annual GRAMMY Awards
Title of the Work: In Step (Album)
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble

He won another Grammy in '85 but I'm too lazy to find that one.


Grammy awards, while nice, don't mean shit. Hell, Journey sold 70 million units and never won a Grammy. Why? Critics hated them.

SRV was awesome, but you seriously think he can play the shit Neal does? Melodic, metal, blues, whatever?


Vaughan could've played anything he wanted and outshined everyone. He chose to play what he loved. For him it was about the music, not money.

I'm not taking anything from Neal's talent by saying that. I think Neal plays the variety because he gets bored with Journey so branches out.

Here's a quote from Eric Clapton about Vaughan:

"I don't think anyone has commanded my respect more, to this day.

The first time I heard Stevie Ray, I thought, "Whoever this is, he is going to shake the world.

I was in my car and I remember thinking, I have to find out, before the day is over, who that guitar player is.

I didn't get to see or hear Stevie play near often enough, but every time I did I got chills and knew I was in the presence of greatness. He seemed to be an open channel and music just flowed through him. It never seemed to dry up.

One of the purist channels I've ever seen, where everything he sang and played flowed straight down from heaven. Almost like one of those mystic Sufi guys with one finger pointing up and one finger down. That's what it was like to listen to. And I had to leave just to preserve some kind of sanity or confidence in myself."
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Postby NealIsGod » Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:27 am

There is nothing more pointless than arguing who is a better guitar player. Once they get to the level of NS or SRV, it becomes whose style you prefer.
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Postby fredinator » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:01 am

That's true, but don't you think this "argument" sounds more like a debate which is pretty refreshing after all the weeks of garbage dumping that's been going on re: Neal, etc.
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Postby NealIsGod » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:05 am

fredinator wrote:That's true, but don't you think this "argument" sounds more like a debate which is pretty refreshing after all the weeks of garbage dumping that's been going on re: Neal, etc.


Semantics. I am all for a good chat about guitarists, just not a fan of "my favorite blows away your favorite."
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Likewise

Postby StoneCold » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:14 am

fredinator wrote:That's true, but don't you think this "argument" sounds more like a debate which is pretty refreshing after all the weeks of garbage dumping that's been going on re: Neal, etc.


Good to see Neal getting some proper credit rather than continuously being labeled the devil incarnate.

Yes, a good debate can be refreshing.

I hadn't bothered to add an avatar until I saw Stevie being undermined. So I was inspired.
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Postby Ms_M » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:19 am

NealIsGod wrote:There is nothing more pointless than arguing who is a better guitar player. Once they get to the level of NS or SRV, it becomes whose style you prefer.


As usual, NIG, you hit the nail on the head. They are/were (in SRV's case) extremely talented. If a person doesn't like his style, however, they may not see it that way. There are plenty of musicians who I think are talented, but their music isn't my favorite. Doesn't mean I can't respect the talent.
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Re: Likewise

Postby NealIsGod » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:20 am

StoneCold wrote:
fredinator wrote:That's true, but don't you think this "argument" sounds more like a debate which is pretty refreshing after all the weeks of garbage dumping that's been going on re: Neal, etc.


Good to see Neal getting some proper credit rather than continuously being labeled the devil incarnate.

Yes, a good debate can be refreshing.

I hadn't bothered to add an avatar until I saw Stevie being undermined. So I was inspired.


SRV was one of a kind and truly amazing. I could listen to him play all day.
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Postby fredinator » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:31 am

I wonder if they knew each other or ever played together; this is the point where I wish LocknLoad would butt in with his lousy grammar :) ...
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 am

fredinator wrote:I wonder if they knew each other or ever played together; this is the point where I wish LocknLoad would butt in with his lousy grammar :) ...


hehe

I think I'm gonna make a video and post it on youtube! (see Crazed Britney fan topic)

"why can't you all just leave Neal alone! etc...........

I'll have to work on my screaming and crying technique first tho'..........

seriously, I like the way he sings--SOFTLY from Late Night, case in point.

grammar smammar. butt in anytime neal. some people here don't capitalize or use punctation. :roll:
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Postby fredinator » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:03 am

I didn't think there was anything wrong with the way he sang on People and Places, either (such a good tune). I really am kidding about his grammar--he is just a plain genius.
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