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Postby Matthew » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:54 am

brywool wrote:
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Good to see the friends of mediocrity getting on like a house on fire....


What the hell does that mean? Because I (and many others) are of the opinion that Perry royally screwed Journey over and don't sit waiting for him like some kid thats dad went out for a paper and never came back, that makes my opinion less valid? Whatever. Maybe instead of reading your old 16 Magazine's about what Steve's favorite color is and what he likes on a date, you should check the facts.

The fact is Perry f*cked Journey during ROR by firing 2 key members and bailing on their tour. The fact is he 'was toast' (dumbest quote in rock and roll) then proceeds to record a solo album that was never released (thankfully because the tracks that came out on gh5 stunk). The fact is, he was never going to tour with TBF though he let everyone think he was. The fact is once the band started going down the Rollie Reunion Road, Perry killed that. For a guy that seems to be everybody's favorite vocalist (including my own), they sure cut him a lot of slack for killing their favorite band.

The guy had amazing talent both as a writer and especially as a singer. Whether he can still sing, I'm sure he can but nowhere hear the quality that he could. But as a human being, loyalty doesn't seem to be one of his strong points. I could say the same about Neal and Cain, though I think with Arnel, they've made a great choice even though they handled JSS and Augeri like crap. But they've tried to keep the band going. Perry he just "thinks about doing something. someday. maybe."


whatever, keep waiting. Oh, by the way, there is no Easter Bunny. Hate to burst your bubble.



Oh let it go Brywool. I'm sure even you might have made a few mistakes twenty years ago and if someone was still on your case about them now you'd think they were completely mad.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:10 am

brywool wrote:Oh, by the way, there is no Easter Bunny.



Heeeyyyy. :cry: Not cool, man. He's real.


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Postby brywool » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:15 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
brywool wrote:Oh, by the way, there is no Easter Bunny.



Heeeyyyy. :cry: Not cool, man. He's real.


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Okay, that's funny.
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Postby Gordon from Edinburgh » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:18 am

[Oh let it go Brywool. I'm sure even you might have made a few mistakes twenty years ago and if someone was still on your case about them now you'd think they were completely mad.[/quote]

Well said Matthew - ROR is a fantastic album and someone had to take charge or they might have just released Frontiers part 2 - an album that had its fair share of weak numbers - dont hear many people shouting for troubled child or back talk. Perry was the only likely candidate as time has shown that jon and neal are not too hot at making decisions and have plenty in the last couple fo years to show them in a very bad light. Ironically by doing nothing Perry's stock seems to rise. As is the way with legends. If Perry releases new material - i will buy without hearing - cos you just KNOW it will be of great quality - and if it had a motown vibe - fine. Im away to listen to Suzanne and Positive Touch - 2 classy pop/rock masterpieces.
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Postby Schon Rules All » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:20 am

Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jesus Frank... that was... absolutely beautiful. I shed a tear. (though my fit of laughter)


strangegrey wrote:Sorry, to me, I see a failing franchise.....Perry coming back, aint going to improve shit....what incentive does perry have to return to a franchise that schlong and fucka have been pissing on for 12 years?


He doesn't. Who the hell would want to see such a reunion at this point in time?
I wouldn't. That would be just sad and sorry. A "failing franchise" is spot on.

I'm not going to be arrogant enough to say "Perry wouldn't do it anyway" or "he has too much integrity" because I don't know him. But I don't think he would. I don't think anyone in their RIGHT mind would, not after watching what this band did to itself.


c'mon, everyone would want to see perry rejoin journey! but would it be the same? probably not.




Uggghhh not everyone... Id want Augeri back before perry. And ya someone will probably quote me and tell me Im crazy so let me say in advance to go to hell. The day Perry comes back is the day I stop caring. I know im in the minority, but I dont care. I appreciate his time from infinity to TBF but Journey is SO MUCH MORE than that damn Escape album. He was a great singer. I repeat WAS. I honestly think seeing the past couple weeks that they have a better shot for success with Arnel than with Perry. It would be fun however to see Perry getting asked where Arnel was by some pinoys ha ha.
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:27 am

Schon Rules All wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jesus Frank... that was... absolutely beautiful. I shed a tear. (though my fit of laughter)


strangegrey wrote:Sorry, to me, I see a failing franchise.....Perry coming back, aint going to improve shit....what incentive does perry have to return to a franchise that schlong and fucka have been pissing on for 12 years?


He doesn't. Who the hell would want to see such a reunion at this point in time?
I wouldn't. That would be just sad and sorry. A "failing franchise" is spot on.

I'm not going to be arrogant enough to say "Perry wouldn't do it anyway" or "he has too much integrity" because I don't know him. But I don't think he would. I don't think anyone in their RIGHT mind would, not after watching what this band did to itself.


c'mon, everyone would want to see perry rejoin journey! but would it be the same? probably not.




Uggghhh not everyone... Id want Augeri back before perry. And ya someone will probably quote me and tell me Im crazy so let me say in advance to go to hell. The day Perry comes back is the day I stop caring. I know im in the minority, but I dont care. I appreciate his time from infinity to TBF but Journey is SO MUCH MORE than that damn Escape album. He was a great singer. I repeat WAS. I honestly think seeing the past couple weeks that they have a better shot for success with Arnel than with Perry. It would be fun however to see Perry getting asked where Arnel was by some pinoys ha ha.


amd they done some cool stuff before perry to
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Postby Schon Rules All » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:29 am

Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
Schon Rules All wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jesus Frank... that was... absolutely beautiful. I shed a tear. (though my fit of laughter)


strangegrey wrote:Sorry, to me, I see a failing franchise.....Perry coming back, aint going to improve shit....what incentive does perry have to return to a franchise that schlong and fucka have been pissing on for 12 years?


He doesn't. Who the hell would want to see such a reunion at this point in time?
I wouldn't. That would be just sad and sorry. A "failing franchise" is spot on.

I'm not going to be arrogant enough to say "Perry wouldn't do it anyway" or "he has too much integrity" because I don't know him. But I don't think he would. I don't think anyone in their RIGHT mind would, not after watching what this band did to itself.


c'mon, everyone would want to see perry rejoin journey! but would it be the same? probably not.




Uggghhh not everyone... Id want Augeri back before perry. And ya someone will probably quote me and tell me Im crazy so let me say in advance to go to hell. The day Perry comes back is the day I stop caring. I know im in the minority, but I dont care. I appreciate his time from infinity to TBF but Journey is SO MUCH MORE than that damn Escape album. He was a great singer. I repeat WAS. I honestly think seeing the past couple weeks that they have a better shot for success with Arnel than with Perry. It would be fun however to see Perry getting asked where Arnel was by some pinoys ha ha.


amd they done some cool stuff before perry to


Yes... They did... Karma is a killer track. Schon is almost hendrix like on it.
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:31 am

Schon Rules All wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
Schon Rules All wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jesus Frank... that was... absolutely beautiful. I shed a tear. (though my fit of laughter)


strangegrey wrote:Sorry, to me, I see a failing franchise.....Perry coming back, aint going to improve shit....what incentive does perry have to return to a franchise that schlong and fucka have been pissing on for 12 years?


He doesn't. Who the hell would want to see such a reunion at this point in time?
I wouldn't. That would be just sad and sorry. A "failing franchise" is spot on.

I'm not going to be arrogant enough to say "Perry wouldn't do it anyway" or "he has too much integrity" because I don't know him. But I don't think he would. I don't think anyone in their RIGHT mind would, not after watching what this band did to itself.


c'mon, everyone would want to see perry rejoin journey! but would it be the same? probably not.




Uggghhh not everyone... Id want Augeri back before perry. And ya someone will probably quote me and tell me Im crazy so let me say in advance to go to hell. The day Perry comes back is the day I stop caring. I know im in the minority, but I dont care. I appreciate his time from infinity to TBF but Journey is SO MUCH MORE than that damn Escape album. He was a great singer. I repeat WAS. I honestly think seeing the past couple weeks that they have a better shot for success with Arnel than with Perry. It would be fun however to see Perry getting asked where Arnel was by some pinoys ha ha.


amd they done some cool stuff before perry to


Yes... They did... Karma is a killer track. Schon is almost hendrix like on it.


also think ROR is still underated
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:31 am

Schon Rules All wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
Schon Rules All wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jesus Frank... that was... absolutely beautiful. I shed a tear. (though my fit of laughter)


strangegrey wrote:Sorry, to me, I see a failing franchise.....Perry coming back, aint going to improve shit....what incentive does perry have to return to a franchise that schlong and fucka have been pissing on for 12 years?


He doesn't. Who the hell would want to see such a reunion at this point in time?
I wouldn't. That would be just sad and sorry. A "failing franchise" is spot on.

I'm not going to be arrogant enough to say "Perry wouldn't do it anyway" or "he has too much integrity" because I don't know him. But I don't think he would. I don't think anyone in their RIGHT mind would, not after watching what this band did to itself.


c'mon, everyone would want to see perry rejoin journey! but would it be the same? probably not.




Uggghhh not everyone... Id want Augeri back before perry. And ya someone will probably quote me and tell me Im crazy so let me say in advance to go to hell. The day Perry comes back is the day I stop caring. I know im in the minority, but I dont care. I appreciate his time from infinity to TBF but Journey is SO MUCH MORE than that damn Escape album. He was a great singer. I repeat WAS. I honestly think seeing the past couple weeks that they have a better shot for success with Arnel than with Perry. It would be fun however to see Perry getting asked where Arnel was by some pinoys ha ha.


amd they done some cool stuff before perry to


Yes... They did... Karma is a killer track. Schon is almost hendrix like on it.


The self-titled debut is one of my favorite albums, "Look Into the Future" is one of my favorite songs.... and nothing makes me happy like Rolie's warm, smooth organ.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:32 am

I keep "rediscovering" RoR every few weeks or so. I seem to always forget how much I enjoy this album!!
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:33 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:and nothing makes me happy like Rolie's warm, smooth organ.


You did that on purpose. No way that's a slip. :lol: :lol:
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Postby AJ » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:34 am

[quote="Gordon from Edinburgh"][Oh let it go Brywool. I'm sure even you might have made a few mistakes twenty years ago and if someone was still on your case about them now you'd think they were completely mad.[/quote]

Well said Matthew - ROR is a fantastic album and someone had to take charge or they might have just released Frontiers part 2 - an album that had its fair share of weak numbers - dont hear many people shouting for troubled child or back talk. Perry was the only likely candidate as time has shown that jon and neal are not too hot at making decisions and have plenty in the last couple fo years to show them in a very bad light. Ironically by doing nothing Perry's stock seems to rise. As is the way with legends. If Perry releases new material - i will buy without hearing - cos you just KNOW it will be of great quality - and if it had a motown vibe - fine. Im away to listen to Suzanne and Positive Touch - 2 classy pop/rock masterpieces.[/quote]

UGGHH- 2 of the worst 'Journey' songs ever! It's quoted because ROR was a Journey album in name only. In reality it was another Stever Perry solo album.

BTW- Had the record company not taken Only the Young and Ask the Lonely off Frontiers at the last minute and replaced them with Back Talk and Troubled Child, Frontiers may have been the best Journey album!

I would buy a new Perry CD the day it came out, but the FACT remains...he SCREWED Journey from 87-98. He never had any intention of touring or anything else. I mean how can you not want to peform WYLAW at the Grammy's? I'll tell you why...he couldn't do it live! The biggest mistake Neal and Jon made was not trying to replace him sooner!

Is the stone cracked? You betcha! And thank God for it! Had it not been cracked we wouldn't have have this awesome new CD to listen to and great shows to attend.
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Postby strangegrey » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:41 am

Saint John wrote:Journey doesn't need Perry for the first time in 22 years. Fuck him. The restaurant is akin to what is was circa 1986. 81? No. 83? No. 86? Absolutely. Perry was the guy that initially fucked up and began the demise of the "restaurant" and you know it, Frank.


Not in the same way Schlong and Fucka have ruined things as of late. Sorry, I disagree there. I *do* hold perry accountable for certain things going wrong with Journey....but prior to 1996, Journey was held in high esteem out in rock lala land. Now they're a joke. While you might think, in this happy little, regurgitations-happy bubble that things are fantastic and people are buying this album in droves...it means dick in the success of this band. Bob lefsetz said as much recently....they're giving away an album for little or no profit...who cares if it goes gold if you can't claim 20 bucks of profit from the sales? So really, this is an fraudulant success if you ask me.

The fact of the matter is that in the grand scheme of things, out there in the real music world, Journey isn't making a dent, wave or ripple at ALL. They really arent. They're touring with 2 other hasbeens and are just sealing in the smell of fresh urine on what was a great legacy....they've pissed on it for years now...and by grabbing a sound-alike, releasing an album filled with redos and never wills....all it does is incriminate them more, the more they go out there trying to give people a damaged bill of goods.

If you like what they're doing....fine. Enjoy it. But know that you're in that 3% tally...you really are. The rest of the world doesn't care unless Steve Perry is singing, irrespective of whether or not he can actually do the job. Perry doesn't want to return to something that's been pissed on as much as it has, irrespective of the amount of urine he contributed to the pile....that's really the main issue here.



On to Dave......If you don't put any weight into what I say because I think schlong and fucka are fuckholes, I encourage you to not only ignore what I say, as you suggest that it encourages you to do...but actually not reply to what I say as well. I frankly, do not give 10 shits what you think or what you think of what I say. fair enough?
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Postby brywool » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:42 am

AJ wrote:
UGGHH- 2 of the worst 'Journey' songs ever! It's quoted because ROR was a Journey album in name only. In reality it was another Stever Perry solo album.


Never said ROR was a bad album. It would've been better with Smith. All Journey albums would be better with him. The guy's THAT good.

AJ wrote:BTW- Had the record company not taken Only the Young and Ask the Lonely off Frontiers at the last minute and replaced them with Back Talk and Troubled Child, Frontiers may have been the best Journey album!


Perry gave away Ask the Lonely to the movie actually.

AJ wrote:I would buy a new Perry CD the day it came out, but the FACT remains...he SCREWED Journey from 87-98. He never had any intention of touring or anything else. I mean how can you not want to peform WYLAW at the Grammy's? I'll tell you why...he couldn't do it live! The biggest mistake Neal and Jon made was not trying to replace him sooner!

Is the stone cracked? You betcha! And thank God for it! Had it not been cracked we wouldn't have have this awesome new CD to listen to and great shows to attend.


Well said.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:44 am

I actually think the pre-Perry albums are best with Dunbar, whose style is best suited to the thundering and grandiose style of that music. Smitty is freakin' awesome but is better in a more precise/intricate setting.

How easy people forget that Dunbar is a legend in his own right.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:44 am

On to Dave......If you don't put any weight into what I say because I think schlong and fucka are fuckholes, I encourage you to not only ignore what I say, as you suggest that it encourages you to do...but actually not reply to what I say as well. I frankly, do not give 10 shits what you think or what you think of what I say. fair enough?


Thanks for proving my point again. :D

Seriously, I want to listen to what you're saying but it gets lost in all the mud. I don't begrudge anyone a good curse now and then, but the over the top crap doesn't do anything other than make you look like a hateful, spiteful moron with nothing else to offer. What the hell happened to you since the JSS stuff went down? You weren't like that before then and I'm positive I'm not the only one who's wondering that.
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Postby finalfight » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:45 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
The self-titled debut is one of my favorite albums, "Look Into the Future" is one of my favorite songs.... and nothing makes me happy like Rolie's warm, smooth organ.


Holy sh!t! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:46 am

finalfight wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
The self-titled debut is one of my favorite albums, "Look Into the Future" is one of my favorite songs.... and nothing makes me happy like Rolie's warm, smooth organ.


Holy sh!t! :shock: :shock: :shock:


:lol:

Seriously though dude.

Rolie is the tits.
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Postby Gordon from Edinburgh » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:48 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:I keep "rediscovering" RoR every few weeks or so. I seem to always forget how much I enjoy this album!!


Me too - the title track guitar rips like a bastard and some of their finest "pop" moments are on this album - oh and the solo in Suzanne just soars. Mind you - emotion plays a part in what we like - in Scotland in 1986 with shit radio no internet and no decent music mags - the shock of seeing a full page advert for ROR nearly made me piss my denims in shock and delight. Needless to say it was purchased within a couple of hours and it continues to delight me greatly, to this day.
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:50 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:I actually think the pre-Perry albums are best with Dunbar, whose style is best suited to the thundering and grandiose style of that music. Smitty is freakin' awesome but is better in a more precise/intricate setting.

How easy people forget that Dunbar is a legend in his own right.


yeh, he was awesum on whitesnake -1987 and i think his drum sound on that is amazing....just listen to still of the night :o
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Postby brywool » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:51 am

Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:I keep "rediscovering" RoR every few weeks or so. I seem to always forget how much I enjoy this album!!


Me too - the title track guitar rips like a bastard and some of their finest "pop" moments are on this album - oh and the solo in Suzanne just soars. Mind you - emotion plays a part in what we like - in Scotland in 1986 with shit radio no internet and no decent music mags - the shock of seeing a full page advert for ROR nearly made me piss my denims in shock and delight. Needless to say it was purchased within a couple of hours and it continues to delight me greatly, to this day.


ROR is one of my all time favorite Journey tracks. I love the references to the old stuff. Next would be "Eyes of a Woman". Great underrated tune.
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Postby Gordon from Edinburgh » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:54 am

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UGGHH- 2 of the worst 'Journey' songs ever! It's quoted because ROR was a Journey album inIs the stone cracked? You betcha! And thank God for it! Had it not been cracked we wouldn't have have this awesome new CD to listen to and great shows to attend.[/quote]

The real truth is tho - that they were ALL assholes and if they had managed things better - maybe you would be going out to watch total legends perform - having said that, the current line up is excellent and i hope it is very successful. But Journey's golden age and revered line up - will always always include Perry - long after we have all turned to dust. I Like the new CD a great deal - very pleased with it - at last. Been a long time since you could say that about a damn Journey album! But i do not honestly think it is as good as ROR. Better to say its about the best they could be now.....if Perry did release something it would probably serve to increase Journey sales as well - so its no bad thing.
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Postby mdaemon » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:58 am

Let's give Frank's story a different twist and a happier ending, shall we? :D

strangegrey wrote:Let's ask this question of the original poster.

Lets assume you were a co-owner and chef in a restaurant. The restaurant was setup as a partnership and you were one of 3 owners. The other two owners,

due to disagreements on how the restaurant should be run, pushed you out.

You agreed to disolve the partnership, and you gave public notice of your departure....the remaining two owners, reformed the partnership and started

restructuring the business. They moved, what was a fantastically successful italian restaurant with a high income bracket clientele, to a seedy part of

town.



One of the remaining owners of the restaurant wanted to serve a better if not the same quality of dish that they used to serve to their former snotty customers to the "drug addicts" and "homeless bums" in their new location. He cannot do that without a chef. He decided to hire one chef after the other but although these chefs were excellent in their own right, the distinct taste of the dishes that the restaurant was known for was missing. Out of frustration, he decided to go to a poor faraway town and ate in all the restaurants there to sample their food and gauge the expertise of the chef. After two days of going around, he was ready to give up. However, he decided to go to a small restaurant in a dark alley. He was unprepared for what was to happen next. Not only did the little chef cooked the best risotto he has tasted (since his previous partner/chef left) but the little chef also served him a dazzling array of French, Mediterranean, Japanese, and even Indian cuisine; though obviously not his original creation, but still tasted as good if not better than the original. He couldn't believe what he just tasted and thought that his taste buds could just be fooling him. He went out of the place and took a walk (or rode a motorcycle;depending on which version you wanna believe in). "No way he could excellently cook those dishes!", he muttered to himself as he drank a strong unknown strong alcoholic drink from his hip flask. After several hours, he went back and the little chef had one last surprise for him by serving him the best tiramisu the restaurant owner has ever tasted. He needed to bring this guy to his restaurant to find out if he can indeed cook.

A couple of months passed and the little chef from the faraway town showed up at the restaurant. The owners and their employees were all there to greet him. The little chef cooked the restaurants own dishes to perfection...he didn't get them the first time but his version kept on improving as the hours and days go by. As a final test, the owner brought him to his partner's restaurant and showed him the recipe of a new dish. The little chef looked at the recipe the first time and cooked it to perfection. Both owners looked at each other and both thought, "here he is, here is our chef!"

Both partners were very excited and after several months, they announced to the public that they have a new chef. They were unprepared for the backlash that soon ensued. Some of the former customers of the restaurant said that they want to eat Italian dishes in an italian restaurant cooked by an Italian chef. The owners stood by their decision and the little chef just quietly cooked to perfection the 10 new dishes, 1 remake dish, 1 bonus dish (for their smelly customers), and 11 dishes that the restaurant was known for. They did not mean to insult the former chef/owner (how could the little chef do that when he is the former chef's biggest fan) by cooking his dishes; they merely wanted the new customers to enjoy the dishes that they were known for. The owners and the little chef worked day and night to perfect their dishes; "never mind the crack vials and needles they have to step over to get into the front door. Never mind that the snotty customers of the restaurant threw all sorts of stuff to the little chef as he quietly walked past them."

When they re-opened the restaurant, they tried to cater to everyone's tastes. At first, only the "drug addicts" who live in "crack houses" and "homeless bums" buy pizza from the "cutout window" of the restaurant. However, some old customers decided to go and visit the place again and try the dishes. They were astonished as the food were excellent and they have the long missing distinct taste of the restaurant. The restaurant became the buzz of the town. Leading food magazines, cooking shows, and even TV shows were raving about the restaurant and its new chef. Even the food critic who snubbed the restaurant gave it a good review.

As time goes by, majority of the old customers of the restaurant went back to restaurant to dine regularly. Seated with them are the drug addicts, homeless bums, crack dealers, and new customers from faraway lands; all of them happily co-existing and just enjoying their meal. They know that in this day and age of fast foods and microwaveable dishes, the Italian restaurant and it's little chef will continue to serve excellent Italian food whatever you are, wherever you are from, or whatever the colour of your skin is. At the end of the day, it is just about the food, which arguably is the best of its kind.
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:59 am

Oddly enough the only RoR song I'm not big on at all is WCTNGOF.

Love:

GCHI
PT
Suzanne
BGTY
OYLS
IBAWY
ICHBY

Like:

HTG
ROR
TEOAW

Take or Leave:

WCTNGOF


It appears that RoR has a better hit-or-miss ratio for me than most other Journey albums!! I LOVE Perry's vocals, the more prominent "groove," and Neal's stampede-in-a-cage soloing... the only thing I'm not a big fan of are some of Cain's synths.. and some of the lyrics. Oddly enough the drumming on this record doesn't bother me for the most part. It's not all Smitty, yeah, but it's not exactly bad either. Some parts actually kind of remind me of Bun E. Carlos. LOVE Jackson's thumping.
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Postby Irwin M Fletcher » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:00 am

mdaemon wrote:Let's give Frank's story a different twist and a happier ending, shall we? :D

strangegrey wrote:Let's ask this question of the original poster.

Lets assume you were a co-owner and chef in a restaurant. The restaurant was setup as a partnership and you were one of 3 owners. The other two owners,

due to disagreements on how the restaurant should be run, pushed you out.

You agreed to disolve the partnership, and you gave public notice of your departure....the remaining two owners, reformed the partnership and started

restructuring the business. They moved, what was a fantastically successful italian restaurant with a high income bracket clientele, to a seedy part of

town.



One of the remaining owners of the restaurant wanted to serve a better if not the same quality of dish that they used to serve to their former snotty customers to the "drug addicts" and "homeless bums" in their new location. He cannot do that without a chef. He decided to hire one chef after the other but although these chefs were excellent in their own right, the distinct taste of the dishes that the restaurant was known for was missing. Out of frustration, he decided to go to a poor faraway town and ate in all the restaurants there to sample their food and gauge the expertise of the chef. After two days of going around, he was ready to give up. However, he decided to go to a small restaurant in a dark alley. He was unprepared for what was to happen next. Not only did the little chef cooked the best risotto he has tasted (since his previous partner/chef left) but the little chef also served him a dazzling array of French, Mediterranean, Japanese, and even Indian cuisine; though obviously not his original creation, but still tasted as good if not better than the original. He couldn't believe what he just tasted and thought that his taste buds could just be fooling him. He went out of the place and took a walk (or rode a motorcycle;depending on which version you wanna believe in). "No way he could excellently cook those dishes!", he muttered to himself as he drank a strong unknown strong alcoholic drink from his hip flask. After several hours, he went back and the little chef had one last surprise for him by serving him the best tiramisu the restaurant owner has ever tasted. He needed to bring this guy to his restaurant to find out if he can indeed cook.

A couple of months passed and the little chef from the faraway town showed up at the restaurant. The owners and their employees were all there to greet him. The little chef cooked the restaurants own dishes to perfection...he didn't get them the first time but his version kept on improving as the hours and days go by. As a final test, the owner brought him to his partner's restaurant and showed him the recipe of a new dish. The little chef looked at the recipe the first time and cooked it to perfection. Both owners looked at each other and both thought, "here he is, here is our chef!"

Both partners were very excited and after several months, they announced to the public that they have a new chef. They were unprepared for the backlash that soon ensued. Some of the former customers of the restaurant said that they want to eat Italian dishes in an italian restaurant cooked by an Italian chef. The owners stood by their decision and the little chef just quietly cooked to perfection the 10 new dishes, 1 remake dish, 1 bonus dish (for their smelly customers), and 11 dishes that the restaurant was known for. They did not mean to insult the former chef/owner (how could the little chef do that when he is the former chef's biggest fan) by cooking his dishes; they merely wanted the new customers to enjoy the dishes that they were known for. The owners and the little chef worked day and night to perfect their dishes; "never mind the crack vials and needles they have to step over to get into the front door. Never mind that the snotty customers of the restaurant threw all sorts of stuff to the little chef as he quietly walked past them."

When they re-opened the restaurant, they tried to cater to everyone's tastes. At first, only the "drug addicts" who live in "crack houses" and "homeless bums" buy pizza from the "cutout window" of the restaurant. However, some old customers decided to go and visit the place again and try the dishes. They were astonished as the food were excellent and they have the long missing distinct taste of the restaurant. The restaurant became the buzz of the town. Leading food magazines, cooking shows, and even TV shows were raving about the restaurant and its new chef. Even the food critic who snubbed the restaurant gave it a good review.

As time goes by, majority of the old customers of the restaurant went back to restaurant to dine regularly. Seated with them are the drug addicts, homeless bums, crack dealers, and new customers from faraway lands; all of them happily co-existing and just enjoying their meal. They know that in this day and age of fast foods and microwaveable dishes, the Italian restaurant and it's little chef will continue to serve excellent Italian food whatever you are, wherever you are from, or whatever the colour of your skin is. At the end of the day, it is just about the dishes, which arguably is the best of its kind.


i still dont see how this is connected with journey!? and i do own a restaurant, i own Mcdonalds :wink:
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:00 am

AMAZING post mdaemon. Keep up the good work brah.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:02 am

WOW!!! This thread has made me sooooo hungry!!! :wink:
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Postby Rhiannon » Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:05 am

Who wants some deep dish? :D
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