JOURNEY "Any Way You Want It" HAWAII '09

[Ehwmatt]

Honolulu, "Never Walk Away":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccR3fomAbhg

Tuned down. If it's going to save his voice, I'm okay with it. But it's very clearly tuned down. From what I can tell on other clips, they aren't tuning down every show.

Hm, tuning down doesn't bug me on some songs, but on songs with a "soaring" melody, especially in the verse, I really feel like tuning down, even half a step as it is here, really kills the momentum of the song.

So, I hope the show I make it to is in E standard...

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Upon further review, it looks like everything is tuned down here. I wonder what the decision-making process is for determining whether to tune down or not.

[steveo777]

Upon further review, it looks like everything is tuned down here. I wonder what the decision-making process is for determining whether to tune down or not.

5 close concert dates? Too many gigs back to back or close to back to back would kill anyone.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Upon further review, it looks like everything is tuned down here. I wonder what the decision-making process is for determining whether to tune down or not.

5 close concert dates?

Probably true. At least they're taking preventative measures if they schedule like that. But the easiest thing would be to give more days off between shows. I know it's not always possible, so it's good to see they're not playing it as-written every show.

[steveo777]

Upon further review, it looks like everything is tuned down here. I wonder what the decision-making process is for determining whether to tune down or not.

5 close concert dates?

Probably true. At least they're taking preventative measures if they schedule like that. But the easiest thing would be to give more days off between shows. I know it's not always possible, so it's good to see they're not playing it as-written every show.

The demand for the Hawaii concerts was high. They had originally only planned 1 gig in Honolulu, but when it sold out in 2 hours, they decided they needed to give the people what they wanted, an extra date. That too sold out even faster than the 1st, so now we got gig #3.

[KDOUBLEU]

Here's "Open Arms" from the Maui concert on the 23rd:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOAY-P0aJ6c

Edit: I really like this one, because it's close enough and quiet enough that you can hear the interaction between Jonathan and Neal in the prelude to the song. The acoustics echo Neal's guitar in a very impressive manner.

Man they lowered that song a bit.

[RossValoryRocks]

um....

"You see this microphone over here....?????"

Arnel nearly smacks it a few times. Wonder if that was for recording or for in ears (live crowd mic).

By the way, this video obviously show's a band and singer that nobody likes. I give them until next Tuesday before Neal quits in frustration.



How anyone can say Journey is not knocking them dead with this lineup is completely beyond me. I haven't seen crowds like them this much since.... well, you know. They're kicking ass.

Those microphones are so they can her the crowd noise...not neccesarily for recording.

[FishinMagician]

i wonder if neal switched his strings to 10's. seems to have some trouble at 4:44-5:00 on Never walk away.

[steveo777]

i wonder if neal switched his strings to 10's. seems to have some trouble at 4:44-5:00 on Never walk away.

He's gotta have his rig set up differently. Have you heard the last 3rd of What I Needed?

[Deb]

The person below Neal with the hat, Is that Ross?

Neal's grandmother.

LOL! That was good one!

"After All These Years"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68y6IVnDP3w

I really like that song, it's so pretty.

[JrnyScarab]

Honolulu, "Never Walk Away":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccR3fomAbhg

Tuned down. If it's going to save his voice, I'm okay with it. But it's very clearly tuned down. From what I can tell on other clips, they aren't tuning down every show.

You're right. Definitely tuned down. At first I thought Arnel's voice sounded strange, then I realized it's tuned down. Kinda weird how some shows are tuned down and others are not. Most people don't notice and don't care, but if you are a musician or play an instrument and have good pitch it can be a little bothersome. His voice sounds deeper when the songs are lowered and his tone is a little diminished by it (as in the sweet spot in his voice is now lower and different). HOWEVER, Arnel is sounding way better than the last tour so far. Major consistent performances. Hope he stays healthy for the whole tour!

[Liquid_Drummer]

Upon further review, it looks like everything is tuned down here. I wonder what the decision-making process is for determining whether to tune down or not.

I bet the only reason they tuned up was for the DVD shoot as every show before and after have been down tuned. I bet the whole tour is tuned 1/2 step down as it is now.

[ttango1]

It's late and I just popped on but I don't hear the tunedown. I am tired though but all I hear is great Journey Music, albeit most of it made popular with THE STEVE at the helm, but with AP, IAG. It's All Good.

[Esc]

Arnel has improved tremendously, particularly in the one respect that has frustrated me no end:
he used to belt everything out; no soto voce deliveries. That's no longer an issue.
The improvements in pronunciation (on the classic songs, it kinda matters to me) are a bonus,
and even the hard T's at the end of words are being brought under control.

-wech

even the '-ah' at every end of the words are tamed.

i guess he's been listening to sam cooke too.
he's having a feast on some woooah-woooahs...lately.

[Liquid_Drummer]

The drop in tuning has helping him big time. It hurts the momentum of some songs but I think you get used to it after a bit.

[NealIsGod]

I see Neal managed to secure his spot next to the hottie.

[BeautifulJbaby]

Remember when everybody was raving about his performance last year? Well, judging by these vids, he's even better than he was on his best night last year.

I said it once before and say it again, he's working on his diction! It's so noticeable. He's working on his A's to be spefic! I'm so happy for the band they are back better than anyone has ever expected.

Totally agree. Just saw this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux3Ci_wA ... re=channel and I say I am impressed especially his cries towards the end. I swear I had goosebumps. Can't wait to see AP kill this song live!

I also like that he has toned down his jumping and running on the stage. Not that I don't like it but I want him to save his energy for high intensity muzak!

[brywool]

Upon further review, it looks like everything is tuned down here. I wonder what the decision-making process is for determining whether to tune down or not.

5 close concert dates?

Probably true. At least they're taking preventative measures if they schedule like that. But the easiest thing would be to give more days off between shows. I know it's not always possible, so it's good to see they're not playing it as-written every show.

This is the first time I've seen Journey do something smart to save a singer's voice. Some gigs, when there are a lot in a row, tune down. Otherwise, go standard. Great approach if you ask me.

[brywool]

Arnel has improved tremendously, particularly in the one respect that has frustrated me no end:
he used to belt everything out; no soto voce deliveries. That's no longer an issue.
The improvements in pronunciation (on the classic songs, it kinda matters to me) are a bonus,
and even the hard T's at the end of words are being brought under control.

-wech

even the '-ah' at every end of the words are tamed.

i guess he's been listening to sam cooke too.
he's having a feast on some woooah-woooahs...lately.

Actually, Sam did the '-ah' thing a lot live. Listen to the Harlem Square Club Live album.

[Maui Tom]

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I also like that he has toned down his jumping and running on the stage. Not that I don't like it but I want him to save his energy for high intensity muzak! [/quote]

He may have left all that in Maui...he was incredible...truly Air Pineda...people are still talking about it here...

[brywool]

He may have left all that in Maui...he was incredible...truly Air Pineda...people are still talking about it here...

Hope he's still Air Pineda. I think that stuff is way cool.

[Jana]

I also like that he has toned down his jumping and running on the stage. Not that I don't like it but I want him to save his energy for high intensity muzak! [/quote]

He may have left all that in Maui...he was incredible...truly Air Pineda...people are still talking about it here...[/quote]

Maui Tom, were there five shows in Hawaii or four? I've read four on JM, and then I saw a list someone posted with five. Do you have any idea?

[Maui Tom]

I also like that he has toned down his jumping and running on the stage. Not that I don't like it but I want him to save his energy for high intensity muzak!

He may have left all that in Maui...he was incredible...truly Air Pineda...people are still talking about it here...[/quote]

Maui Tom, were there five shows in Hawaii or four? I've read four on JM, and then I saw a list someone posted with five. Do you have any idea?[/quote]

One on Maui...three on Oahu...one on Big Island...

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[fightingilliniJRNY]

Upon further review, it looks like everything is tuned down here. I wonder what the decision-making process is for determining whether to tune down or not.

I bet the only reason they tuned up was for the DVD shoot as every show before and after have been down tuned. I bet the whole tour is tuned 1/2 step down as it is now.

No, I'm pretty sure not every show is tuned down. I listened to the Macau, China clips for example, and they sound fine. Some of the other Hawaii clips are in the original key, too. I think it's on a show-by-show basis.

[Jana]

I also like that he has toned down his jumping and running on the stage. Not that I don't like it but I want him to save his energy for high intensity muzak!

He may have left all that in Maui...he was incredible...truly Air Pineda...people are still talking about it here...

[/quote] Maui Tom, were there five shows in Hawaii or four? I've read four on JM, and then I saw a list someone posted with five. Do you have any idea?[/quote]

[/quote] One on Maui...three on Oahu...one on Big Island...

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Damn, what's going on with the quote function. Got me saying stuff I didn't say.
Thanks. I wonder if the other two shows sold out quickly like the three shows that sold out in two hours . Good for them. They must be pleased with the response in Hawaii.

[YoungJRNY]

Remember when everybody was raving about his performance last year? Well, judging by these vids, he's even better than he was on his best night last year.

I said it once before and say it again, he's working on his diction! It's so noticeable. He's working on his A's to be spefic! I'm so happy for the band they are back better than anyone has ever expected.

Totally agree. Just saw this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux3Ci_wA ... re=channel and I say I am impressed especially his cries towards the end. I swear I had goosebumps. Can't wait to see AP kill this song live!

I also like that he has toned down his jumping and running on the stage. Not that I don't like it but I want him to save his energy for high intensity muzak!

Agree with what you said also.

Also with Arnel's diction, esp with the 'Aaaaahhh'sss" He was the worst with that on Dont Stop Believin'.

Heres's the clip on DSB in Hawaii. I don't think he did 1 "aaaaHHhh"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuZRzt9d ... re=channel

Good for him! Makes him an even better vocalist and he was one damn good one to begin with.

[BeautifulJbaby]

I see Neal managed to secure his spot next to the hottie.

OMG! I swear I didn't recognize Ross in the pic. He looks like my grandma.

[journel]

who's crying now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQbYz79- ... re=related

stone in love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePMQZNN ... re=related

mother father (deen on vox)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViS0iLdT ... re=related

lovin' touchin' squeezin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwkp2vVb ... re=related

[Deacon]

I see Neal managed to secure his spot next to the hottie.

LOL.

I'm honestly surprised at Ross in that pic. He seems like the person that would be the life of an event like that.

Edit: He really looks like that weird aunt that no one invites to family functions. Oh, and I do believe that Neal has found wife number 17.

[Maui Tom]

I know I already said this....but a year ago in LV we saw what AP COULD be and it was exciting....he is now becoming "that" and these guys are on the cusp of something they may never have REALLY thought would happen again...