Pretty Cool SP/AP Video

[Don]

Gunbot,

Wasn't that pic taken when AP was imitating Bryan Adams? So hard to keep all his impersonations straight...

Peace.

I think that was the cover from his solo album. I was of the opinion that they should do a re-release, strike while the iron's hot so to say but it doesn't look like that will happen.

PEACE!

Glad to see you're finally picking up some good traits.

I don't have anything against Arnel, It's the elf in your signature that gives me cause for pause.

[mdaemon]

Haven't you learned your lessons yet on these SP/AP comparisons? Every time you start a thread on MR, you will get thousands of posts on youtube against Perry from Arnel fans in retaliation to what you posted here. Bear in mind that Pinoys have plenty of bandwidth and time as job is scarce back home so you are not going to win the numbers game. So what do you do next, , you go back here and yak about the unfair posts you saw on youtube when you started the silly comparisons in the first place.

Why can't we just enjoy the music and appreciate the contributions of each member of this band past and present?

I couldn't care less what the uneducated masses on Youtube say. I've never said anything about what people say on youtube, so rethink your thoughts on that.

I didn't quote your post so I am not saying that you comment about what people on youtube say. There are people on MR who yakked about comments against Perry made on youtube and arnel's site; my post was for them.

If any comparisons are silly, why would you feel the need to respond to them? Hmm......

I really wish you would stop using this argument because it is...well, silly. This is a forum, madsplash. People respond to comments on forums. You should know that by now.

[portland]

Haven't you learned your lessons yet on these SP/AP comparisons? Every time you start a thread on MR, you will get thousands of posts on youtube against Perry from Arnel fans in retaliation to what you posted here. Bear in mind that Pinoys have plenty of bandwidth and time as job is scarce back home so you are not going to win the numbers game. So what do you do next, , you go back here and yak about the unfair posts you saw on youtube when you started the silly comparisons in the first place.

Why can't we just enjoy the music and appreciate the contributions of each member of this band past and present?

I couldn't care less what the uneducated masses on Youtube say. I've never said anything about what people say on youtube, so rethink your thoughts on that.

I didn't quote your post so I am not saying that you comment about what people on youtube say. There are people on MR who yakked about comments against Perry made on youtube and arnel's site; my post was for them.

If any comparisons are silly, why would you feel the need to respond to them? Hmm......

I really wish you would stop using this argument because it is...well, silly. This is a forum, madsplash. People respond to comments on forums. You should know that by now.

Yes and everyone can have their own opinion and not have someone elses opinion shoved down their throat......that's what makes it interesting...if everyone agreed than what would we talk about!

[mdaemon]

Haven't you learned your lessons yet on these SP/AP comparisons? Every time you start a thread on MR, you will get thousands of posts on youtube against Perry from Arnel fans in retaliation to what you posted here. Bear in mind that Pinoys have plenty of bandwidth and time as job is scarce back home so you are not going to win the numbers game. So what do you do next, , you go back here and yak about the unfair posts you saw on youtube when you started the silly comparisons in the first place.

Why can't we just enjoy the music and appreciate the contributions of each member of this band past and present?

I couldn't care less what the uneducated masses on Youtube say. I've never said anything about what people say on youtube, so rethink your thoughts on that.

I didn't quote your post so I am not saying that you comment about what people on youtube say. There are people on MR who yakked about comments against Perry made on youtube and arnel's site; my post was for them.

If any comparisons are silly, why would you feel the need to respond to them? Hmm......

I really wish you would stop using this argument because it is...well, silly. This is a forum, madsplash. People respond to comments on forums. You should know that by now.

Yes and everyone can have their own opinion and not have someone elses opinion shoved down their throat......that's what makes it interesting...if everyone agreed than what would we talk about!

You've obviously not been here long enough then.

[portland]

Haven't you learned your lessons yet on these SP/AP comparisons? Every time you start a thread on MR, you will get thousands of posts on youtube against Perry from Arnel fans in retaliation to what you posted here. Bear in mind that Pinoys have plenty of bandwidth and time as job is scarce back home so you are not going to win the numbers game. So what do you do next, , you go back here and yak about the unfair posts you saw on youtube when you started the silly comparisons in the first place.

Why can't we just enjoy the music and appreciate the contributions of each member of this band past and present?

I couldn't care less what the uneducated masses on Youtube say. I've never said anything about what people say on youtube, so rethink your thoughts on that.

I didn't quote your post so I am not saying that you comment about what people on youtube say. There are people on MR who yakked about comments against Perry made on youtube and arnel's site; my post was for them.

If any comparisons are silly, why would you feel the need to respond to them? Hmm......

I really wish you would stop using this argument because it is...well, silly. This is a forum, madsplash. People respond to comments on forums. You should know that by now.

Yes and everyone can have their own opinion and not have someone elses opinion shoved down their throat......that's what makes it interesting...if everyone agreed than what would we talk about!

You've obviously not been here long enough then.

I have been here long enough to know better

[Deb]

There are several of these "duets" on youtube that people have put together.

I know it's not really a competition, because it's not really fair to AP to do that to him and he does a great job, but SP's voice here is almost unhuman. The embellishment at the end by SP is just ridiculous. Again, Arnel does as good of a job as anyone can be expected to do, but this isn't a fair competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQ29OlN ... re=related

That was cool. But this one is my fave. Send Her My Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFmhoC43_4

Range shmange, they both have such great soul/delivery! And layering both their voices together at 2:30, wow goose bumps.

[journey361]

Good points, but it's also a double-edged sword. You were afforded the luxury of a bad performance back then, but these days every show is recorded and every performance scrutinized. Add the internet, message boards, blogs, etc. and one could argue that the archaic times of the 70's and 80's had advantages that today's artists aren't afforded.

And I'm not sure what the difference in today's technology is other than Pro Tools but, to me, Escape and Frontiers sound as good as any album ever produced. I actually prefer the old recording sound. Much of today's music has a compressed sound that is far less full sounding than that of yesteryear.



Well, again am i a loon, hell yes, i saw SP sing when he was 28 (I believe Adam Lambert's age now) and he stung my dam ass to the point where i'm still talking about how great he is and how nobody even comes close to him in so many ways i just won't get into now. But to the issue at hand, my point is-(You were afforded the luxury of a bad performance back then) there was no bad performance back then, not by Journey, instrumental and vocally. For goodness sake, Journey back in the day was better than most on their worst day. SP's out-of-this-world vocals were so special from the get go, you knew he was set for stardom.

[Don]

There are several of these "duets" on youtube that people have put together.

I know it's not really a competition, because it's not really fair to AP to do that to him and he does a great job, but SP's voice here is almost unhuman. The embellishment at the end by SP is just ridiculous. Again, Arnel does as good of a job as anyone can be expected to do, but this isn't a fair competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQ29OlN ... re=related

That was cool. But this one is my fave. Send Her My Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFmhoC43_4

Range shmange, they both have such great soul/delivery! And layering both their voices together at 2:30, wow goose bumps.

Are you making your own mashups now, Deb?

[Gideon]

and he stung my dam ass to the point where i'm still talking about how great he is and how nobody even comes close to him in so many ways i just won't get into now.

I, for one, would like to know what this questionable statement means. Perry... "stung your ass"? Am I to take from this that you are the reason he and Sherrie didn't work out?

[Laydee]

Why don't we all just agree, Perry was the shit back in the day (in his prime)(of course, excluding any chance that Perry will ever put out anything new), and Arnel is the shit these days (in his prime). You've got to admit Arnel is a damn good singer, and people who put these "Comparison Videos" out should make it even on both sides, if they are going to do it at all! But that's just my opinion.

[Deb]

There are several of these "duets" on youtube that people have put together.

I know it's not really a competition, because it's not really fair to AP to do that to him and he does a great job, but SP's voice here is almost unhuman. The embellishment at the end by SP is just ridiculous. Again, Arnel does as good of a job as anyone can be expected to do, but this isn't a fair competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQ29OlN ... re=related

That was cool. But this one is my fave. Send Her My Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFmhoC43_4

Range shmange, they both have such great soul/delivery! And layering both their voices together at 2:30, wow goose bumps.

Are you making your own mashups now, Deb?

LOL, I don't have the first clue how to do that audio stuff. But whoever did, did a bangup job......love that one!

[Jana]

There are several of these "duets" on youtube that people have put together.

I know it's not really a competition, because it's not really fair to AP to do that to him and he does a great job, but SP's voice here is almost unhuman. The embellishment at the end by SP is just ridiculous. Again, Arnel does as good of a job as anyone can be expected to do, but this isn't a fair competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQ29OlN ... re=related

That was cool. But this one is my fave. Send Her My Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFmhoC43_4

Range shmange, they both have such great soul/delivery! And layering both their voices together at 2:30, wow goose bumps.

I don't know. I don't like layering their voices. Jeff sounds fine doing that song alone. But no one should be put next to Steve Perry on Send Her My Love side by side. Augeri, JSS or Arnel, IMHO.
Perry's vocals and delivery, with such a great melody to that song, is just beyond magical.

[portland]

There are several of these "duets" on youtube that people have put together.

I know it's not really a competition, because it's not really fair to AP to do that to him and he does a great job, but SP's voice here is almost unhuman. The embellishment at the end by SP is just ridiculous. Again, Arnel does as good of a job as anyone can be expected to do, but this isn't a fair competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQ29OlN ... re=related

That was cool. But this one is my fave. Send Her My Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFmhoC43_4

Range shmange, they both have such great soul/delivery! And layering both their voices together at 2:30, wow goose bumps.

I don't know. I don't like layering their voices. Jeff sounds fine doing that song alone. But no one should be put next to Steve Perry on Send Her My Love side by side. Augeri, JSS or Arnel, IMHO.
Perry's vocals and delivery, with such a great melody to that song, is just beyond magical.

I might have to print this and save it........

[journey361]

journey361 wrote:
and he stung my dam ass to the point where i'm still talking about how great he is and how nobody even comes close to him in so many ways i just won't get into now.


I guess that's the getto in me talking and DON'T TELL my wife who didn't even know who SP was untill we met. She would probably agree with you though, LOL. She thinks i have a man crush on him. To be honest though, my mother sang professionally, my uncle sang and toured in the 50's and my twin cousins who live in Florida made it kinda big and toured with alot of well known groups including Jimmy Jamison, Brian Adams and ended up doing dates in Europe. Iv'e seen probably 50 to 60 different groups in concert all with different styles from their frontman and not one has the vocal ability (Perry tools) that Perry had. Hell, I'm probably the only person in the world who thinks Perry had lost some of his touch in 1981 (Houston live DVD).

[Jubilee]

Why don't we all just agree, Perry was the shit back in the day (in his prime)(of course, excluding any chance that Perry will ever put out anything new), and Arnel is the shit these days (in his prime). You've got to admit Arnel is a damn good singer, and people who put these "Comparison Videos" out should make it even on both sides, if they are going to do it at all! But that's just my opinion.

But how? Perry in his prime is a known quantity, or at least we have recorded samples of what is considered his prime. Unfortunately for Arnel, primarily what we have are samples of his current abilities. To be perfectly fair, we have no idea what Arnel was capable of in his prime, or what he will be capable of if in fact he has not yet reached his prime. Even after all this wailing and gnashing of teeth, it still just comes down to personal taste.

[Jana]

There are several of these "duets" on youtube that people have put together.

I know it's not really a competition, because it's not really fair to AP to do that to him and he does a great job, but SP's voice here is almost unhuman. The embellishment at the end by SP is just ridiculous. Again, Arnel does as good of a job as anyone can be expected to do, but this isn't a fair competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQ29OlN ... re=related

That was cool. But this one is my fave. Send Her My Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFmhoC43_4

Range shmange, they both have such great soul/delivery! And layering both their voices together at 2:30, wow goose bumps.

I don't know. I don't like layering their voices. Jeff sounds fine doing that song alone. But no one should be put next to Steve Perry on Send Her My Love side by side. Augeri, JSS or Arnel, IMHO.
Perry's vocals and delivery, with such a great melody to that song, is just beyond magical.

I might have to print this and save it........

If you weren't so focused on my pro Journey/Neal/Arnel posts , you would know from all my other posts I absolutely loved Steve Perry with Journey and my favorite Journey period is '78 to '83 to listen to and consider Perry with Journey songs my favorite all-time singer vocally .

[portland]

There are several of these "duets" on youtube that people have put together.

I know it's not really a competition, because it's not really fair to AP to do that to him and he does a great job, but SP's voice here is almost unhuman. The embellishment at the end by SP is just ridiculous. Again, Arnel does as good of a job as anyone can be expected to do, but this isn't a fair competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQ29OlN ... re=related

That was cool. But this one is my fave. Send Her My Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFmhoC43_4

Range shmange, they both have such great soul/delivery! And layering both their voices together at 2:30, wow goose bumps.

I don't know. I don't like layering their voices. Jeff sounds fine doing that song alone. But no one should be put next to Steve Perry on Send Her My Love side by side. Augeri, JSS or Arnel, IMHO.
Perry's vocals and delivery, with such a great melody to that song, is just beyond magical.

I might have to print this and save it........

If you weren't so focused on my pro Journey/Neal/Arnel posts , you would know from all my other posts I absolutely loved Steve Perry with Journey and my favorite Journey period is '78 to '83 to listen to and consider Perry with Journey songs my favorite all-time singer vocally .

Well it's nice to know....and it's not that I don't like AP...I just don't like what happened...

[mdaemon]

If you weren't so focused on my pro Journey/Neal/Arnel posts , you would know from all my other posts I absolutely loved Steve Perry with Journey and my favorite Journey period is '78 to '83 to listen to and consider Perry with Journey songs my favorite all-time singer vocally .

Well it's nice to know....and it's not that I don't like AP...I just don't like what happened...

...which was absolutely not Arnel's fault

[Deb]

There are several of these "duets" on youtube that people have put together.

I know it's not really a competition, because it's not really fair to AP to do that to him and he does a great job, but SP's voice here is almost unhuman. The embellishment at the end by SP is just ridiculous. Again, Arnel does as good of a job as anyone can be expected to do, but this isn't a fair competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQ29OlN ... re=related

That was cool. But this one is my fave. Send Her My Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFmhoC43_4

Range shmange, they both have such great soul/delivery! And layering both their voices together at 2:30, wow goose bumps.

I don't know. I don't like layering their voices. Jeff sounds fine doing that song alone. But no one should be put next to Steve Perry on Send Her My Love side by side. Augeri, JSS or Arnel, IMHO.
Perry's vocals and delivery, with such a great melody to that song, is just beyond magical.

Jana, they are only layered for a few seconds at the 2:30 mark, the rest is Perry alone and Soto alone. But I hear ya, I'm like that with Still They Ride and Only The Young.......no one can touch those as far as I'm concerned. Deen does a great job on STR and Arnel does too on OTY, but not near close enough for these ears.

[Andrew]

I really fail to see the point of these "duet" comparisons. Doesn't do any good whatsoever. Perry was untouchable.

[Jana]

There are several of these "duets" on youtube that people have put together.

I know it's not really a competition, because it's not really fair to AP to do that to him and he does a great job, but SP's voice here is almost unhuman. The embellishment at the end by SP is just ridiculous. Again, Arnel does as good of a job as anyone can be expected to do, but this isn't a fair competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQ29OlN ... re=related

That was cool. But this one is my fave. Send Her My Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHFmhoC43_4

Range shmange, they both have such great soul/delivery! And layering both their voices together at 2:30, wow goose bumps.

I don't know. I don't like layering their voices. Jeff sounds fine doing that song alone. But no one should be put next to Steve Perry on Send Her My Love side by side. Augeri, JSS or Arnel, IMHO.
Perry's vocals and delivery, with such a great melody to that song, is just beyond magical.

I might have to print this and save it........

If you weren't so focused on my pro Journey/Neal/Arnel posts , you would know from all my other posts I absolutely loved Steve Perry with Journey and my favorite Journey period is '78 to '83 to listen to and consider Perry with Journey songs my favorite all-time singer vocally .

Well it's nice to know....and it's not that I don't like AP...I just don't like what happened...

Neither do I. I hate the way Neal was treated.

At one time or another in that band they were all assholes, just like any other band with egos. If I let that stop me from listening to my favorite bands, there would be none left. I happen to love the current lineup in the band. Perry ain't coming back to Journey, and maybe never solo. Some aren't interested without him or maybe without Augeri or JSS. I happen not to be one of them. There's all flavors existing here together on MR sometimes nicely, sometimes not so nicely.

[journey361]

Andrew you got that right, this whole thing is silly as hell. AP is a good singer, but SP is in the name Steve Perry. I ask, is there ever anyone who can pulloff a song like Good Morning Girl, WCTNGOF or Still They Ride. Yes, anyone can sing that song, but they can't sound like SP. His voice even at a lower tone or not in higher tenor, was remarkable. Listen to AP voice while not in a higher tenor or a normal singing voice, just a good singer but someone who doesn't have soul, or emotion with a stinging R&B riff. SP did, and did with ease. He even said "I try and sing whichever way im singing in a way where i do it with ease and not strain"

[Jana]

I really fail to see the point of these "duet" comparisons. Doesn't do any good whatsoever. Perry was untouchable.

I think Madsplash posted it so that he could have everyone could chime in to say how great Perry was compared to Arnel. Everyone says Perry is awesome already on here, but Madsplash wanted to make the reminder since Journey is on tour right now and doing great. Now, this, of course, is just my humble opinion, nothing more.

[Saint John]

Listen to AP voice while not in a higher tenor or a normal singing voice, just a good singer but someone who doesn't have soul, or emotion

While I certainly agree that Perry, in his prime, is clearly the better singer I sense tons of emotion when Arnel sings. Open Arms, Faithfully and After All These Years being 3 fine examples. And may I ask you, how many times have you seen Arnel live?

[Gideon]

Listen to AP voice while not in a higher tenor or a normal singing voice, just a good singer but someone who doesn't have soul, or emotion

While I certainly agree that Perry, in his prime, is clearly the better singer I sense tons of emotion when Arnel sings. Open Arms, Faithfully and After All These Years being 3 fine examples. And may I ask you, how many times have you seen Arnel live?

+1.

[journey361]

With that being said, AP is singing covers from another with great emotion which again is from another singer, who quite frankly made his mark by that tech mode. Granted SP had special tools that separated him from others, but your not giving AP credit at all. He's a fine singer but overmatched in that area and i might state that if your gonna sit here and say he sings with more emotion than the great one, you might as well single out Adam Lambert who i believe is going to be a special talent if he shits on the record company and say's "hell no, "I'll sing this song this way". AP does not have that luxury.

[Andrew]

I really fail to see the point of these "duet" comparisons. Doesn't do any good whatsoever. Perry was untouchable.

I think Madsplash posted it so that he could have everyone could chime in to say how great Perry was compared to Arnel. Everyone says Perry is awesome already on here, but Madsplash wanted to make the reminder since Journey is on tour right now and doing great.

Equally pointless IMHO.

[Lora]

I really fail to see the point of these "duet" comparisons. Doesn't do any good whatsoever. Perry was untouchable.

So true. And I'm so grateful that I was able to see so many shows back in the day. Wouldn't trade those memories for anything. <insert big sigh here>

[Ftloperry]

Steve Perry's voice is priceless and no one can touch the vocal ability that Steve had. These duet comparison's are fruitless because Steve's vocal's can NEVER be matched or touched. When you've heard the original whether on vinyl or live in concert why even bother comparing the two. There is no comparison.

[journey361]

Concerning AP, he's a great fit NOW for what JOURNEY does and like i said many times, there is no question WHAT SO EVER that AP is a class act. AP is devoted to his base and family and a really good person to boot. You can flat out see that when you hear him talk, body language and a gut feeling. But where soul and gravity are concerned, SP is a legendary singer who was a shit and a ass for record labels back in the day, while his belief was in his gift, it coudn't have turned out any better for him, JOURNEY and the world. Maybe SP was a little to controlling and he DID quit the music business way too early, but behold, it's called cause and effect. Were here bitching about why, how and when life was so good back in the day. Maybe it's starting to make sense now, wasn't that a time when SP was singing with JOURNEY.