Project2011...or...Plan B

[Tomulator]

If the story is only told from one side, we'll have comparisons to BTM and the supposed editorial control of Perry again. When it comes to Journey history, the band had to be bashed incessantly just to put a proper bio on their own official website that went back further than 2007. They don't want to acknowledge the past in any other way than playing the dirty dozen. Find another band to write about, Andrew. This group is too dysfunctional to ever get anything vaguely resembling the truth put into print.

Midnight Oil comes to mind...Andew, are you listening??

[cinkidd]

Go for it. I would love to see this happen and as for the the current members of the band not wanting any part of it, they are just plain crazy. That music is still putting bread and dollars on the table for them.

Rich the Bread Guy

[walkslikealady]

Like others have said, without the input of all the band members, etc., would it be balanced? I'd say write a book based on your own knowledge and world...maybe with multiple bands in it.

[tammy]

Hmmm...I'd rather read a book with the cooperation/input of the band members...my favorite genre of books is autobiography...personal stories & memories...straight from the horse's mouth.

[stevew2]

go ahead and do it, title it Frigas Fables, you ll get nothin but bullshit from them. Let me illistrate it for you ,at least the Friga picts.

[Behshad]

Let me illistrate it for you ,at least the Friga picts.

and the spell check too ?

[Deb]

If the story is only told from one side, we'll have comparisons to BTM and the supposed editorial control of Perry again. When it comes to Journey history, the band had to be bashed incessantly just to put a proper bio on their own official website that went back further than 2007. They don't want to acknowledge the past in any other way than playing the dirty dozen. Find another band to write about, Andrew. This group is too dysfunctional to ever get anything vaguely resembling the truth put into print.

Midnight Oil comes to mind...Andew, are you listening??

Journey Shmourney, how about MR BIG!

[stevew2]

Let me illistrate it for you ,at least the Friga picts.

and the spell check too ?

Ill leave that for you smart ass

[Andrew]

I'm on the verge of a decision here and will respond still to a number of posts shortly.

VERY conflicted here as to what to do and how to move forward. Stay tuned...

[JasonD]

I'm on the verge of a decision here and will respond still to a number of posts shortly.

VERY conflicted here as to what to do and how to move forward. Stay tuned...

Well one thing's for sure: If the book idea doesn't pan out you could try your hand at writing a mystery novel b/c you sure know how to keep us on the edge of our seats, Andrew.

[Andrew]

I'm on the verge of a decision here and will respond still to a number of posts shortly.

VERY conflicted here as to what to do and how to move forward. Stay tuned...

Well one thing's for sure: If the book idea doesn't pan out you could try your hand at writing a mystery novel b/c you sure know how to keep us on the edge of our seats, Andrew.

LOL

I am going to do some fictional writing, but not mystery...

[Monker]

I'm on the verge of a decision here and will respond still to a number of posts shortly.

VERY conflicted here as to what to do and how to move forward. Stay tuned...

Whatever project you are most passionate about - that's the one you should be working on.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

cool, Drew!!

I'm with the dokk, Lora, Cyndy and SG--2011 is too soon. It will be a mammoth undertaking.

A book focused on the ESCAPE album is awesome. Stick to the historical facts and leave out any personal or personnel schutt. With that said, I'll need to define FACTS.

I'm concerned about the legal ramifications, as well, with an unauthorized account.

Coffee table book with mostly pics and interviews--very cool. Everyone would buy it. Especially if it was called Don't Stop Believin'- One Band's JOURNEY to a number one album--or something like that. Most folks know DSB but don't know Journey did it, who the band members are/were/will be, or that the song is from a number one album named ESCAPE.

my $.02. good luck.

[slucero]

andrew there is also a guy on Pineda's website that is writing a very similar book as we speak. He used to be on the Journey forum but is not there anymore and is on Pineda's and is he from the US although I forgot his name. Look into this because lord knows you don't want two seperate entities working on the same project. Seems like it might be Jounrneyman but not sure.

I think the difference with this situation is Andrew has the connections that will allow him to produce a more creditable piece of work.

Journeyman supposedly has those connections too.

He was also banned from the Official Journey site before the new one was created. His connections didn't seem to work that time. I don't know him personally and he could be the nicest guy in the world but getting the hammer dropped on you from an official fan site can't be spun positively, no matter what the circumstances are.

I remember that guy... he got banned for some serious crap... he was a real tool...

[EightyRock]

I thought there were gag orders in place and Schon, Cain and Valory also couldn't write any books or participate in them with regard to Journey. Without re-reading the Castles Burning interview w/ HH, I can't be sure, but I remember reading something like that. I think Perry figured the lot of them would try to re-write history. If they could, they would have done it already and cashed in, so I think trying for a book at this point is a huge waste of time and effort.

The idea that the band wants to "move on from their past" is damn funny, considering they were more than happy to milk their GH to get the Walmart deal. They've made such a mega-mess of things over the last few years that I'd think you'd (Drew) had your fill, just running a message board for them.

[Vocalsmanvocals]

andrew there is also a guy on Pineda's website that is writing a very similar book as we speak. He used to be on the Journey forum but is not there anymore and is on Pineda's and is he from the US although I forgot his name. Look into this because lord knows you don't want two seperate entities working on the same project. Seems like it might be Jounrneyman but not sure.

I think the difference with this situation is Andrew has the connections that will allow him to produce a more creditable piece of work.

Journeyman supposedly has those connections too.

He was also banned from the Official Journey site before the new one was created. His connections didn't seem to work that time. I don't know him personally and he could be the nicest guy in the world but getting the hammer dropped on you from an official fan site can't be spun positively, no matter what the circumstances are.

I remember that guy... he got banned for some serious crap... he was a real tool...

Yes he was..

[Andrew]

I'd think you'd (Drew) had your fill, just running a message board for them.

At times, yes....but I still love a fascinating story.

[Rockindeano]

At times, yes....but I still love a fascinating story.

You do? I have one I can lay on you. Rated R but man this is a juicy fucker. let me know if you want to read it, Bitch.

[perryswoman]

At times, yes....but I still love a fascinating story.

You do? I have one I can lay on you. Rated R but man this is a juicy fucker. let me know if you want to read it, Bitch.

Spill it Deano

[perryswoman]

andrew there is also a guy on Pineda's website that is writing a very similar book as we speak. He used to be on the Journey forum but is not there anymore and is on Pineda's and is he from the US although I forgot his name. Look into this because lord knows you don't want two seperate entities working on the same project. Seems like it might be Jounrneyman but not sure.

I think the difference with this situation is Andrew has the connections that will allow him to produce a more creditable piece of work.

Journeyman supposedly has those connections too.

He was also banned from the Official Journey site before the new one was created. His connections didn't seem to work that time. I don't know him personally and he could be the nicest guy in the world but getting the hammer dropped on you from an official fan site can't be spun positively, no matter what the circumstances are.

I remember that guy... he got banned for some serious crap... he was a real tool...

Yes he was..

Do tell!! I think I joined that site at the end right before he got banned and I know is was talking smack to the moderator but to be truthful I don't even remember what it was about!

[Andrew]

I know is was talking smack to the moderator but to be truthful I don't even remember what it was about!

I don't know him, so won't judge at all....but talking smack to some BT moderators wasn't that hard a thing to do

[Maui Tom]

andrew there is also a guy on Pineda's website that is writing a very similar book as we speak. He used to be on the Journey forum but is not there anymore and is on Pineda's and is he from the US although I forgot his name. Look into this because lord knows you don't want two seperate entities working on the same project. Seems like it might be Jounrneyman but not sure.

Total 100% fraud....

[perryswoman]

andrew there is also a guy on Pineda's website that is writing a very similar book as we speak. He used to be on the Journey forum but is not there anymore and is on Pineda's and is he from the US although I forgot his name. Look into this because lord knows you don't want two seperate entities working on the same project. Seems like it might be Jounrneyman but not sure.

Total 100% fraud....

Interesting. Any juicy gossip?

[Jana]

andrew there is also a guy on Pineda's website that is writing a very similar book as we speak. He used to be on the Journey forum but is not there anymore and is on Pineda's and is he from the US although I forgot his name. Look into this because lord knows you don't want two seperate entities working on the same project. Seems like it might be Jounrneyman but not sure.

Total 100% fraud....

Interesting. Any juicy gossip?

Agree.

[Maui Tom]

andrew there is also a guy on Pineda's website that is writing a very similar book as we speak. He used to be on the Journey forum but is not there anymore and is on Pineda's and is he from the US although I forgot his name. Look into this because lord knows you don't want two seperate entities working on the same project. Seems like it might be Jounrneyman but not sure.

Total 100% fraud....

Interesting. Any juicy gossip?

nope...

[Arianddu]

andrew there is also a guy on Pineda's website that is writing a very similar book as we speak. He used to be on the Journey forum but is not there anymore and is on Pineda's and is he from the US although I forgot his name. Look into this because lord knows you don't want two seperate entities working on the same project. Seems like it might be Jounrneyman but not sure.

Total 100% fraud....

Interesting. Any juicy gossip?

nope...

Tease.

[perryswoman]

andrew there is also a guy on Pineda's website that is writing a very similar book as we speak. He used to be on the Journey forum but is not there anymore and is on Pineda's and is he from the US although I forgot his name. Look into this because lord knows you don't want two seperate entities working on the same project. Seems like it might be Jounrneyman but not sure.

Total 100% fraud....

Interesting. Any juicy gossip?

nope...

Tease.

Tru Dat!! He seems to know those band members pretty well. Especially Deen

[Andrew]

Ok folks.

A decision has been made. I choose none of the above.

An idea came to me Saturday that seems so absolutely perfect for me to develop - something in the musical field, but not for MR. Since then I have thought of nothing else. I will be working on this concept with any spare time I have so all current plans for the Journey book are from this point on hold.

Without the involvement of the key individuals it seems kind of lame to me anyhow....so I leave an open invitation for Neal, Jon, Steve P and all else to contact me at any stage in regards to an official Journey bio - the FULL story from start to finish, leaving nothing out.
I remain enthusiastic and passionate about this idea and will keep it in my mind.

But there are 2 things that I am far more passionate about - this new idea and my RNR TV show. So I'll work on those around site commitments and keep you all updated on developments.


Thanks to all for the input here to date. I may start a new thread in time to keep you up to date with "stuff".

Cheers,
Andrew.

[jestor92]

I wouldn't be interested. I'd be more interestested in hearing about the band's entire history instead of just one album. If someone is that interested in the "Escape" album all they have to do is do an internet search for Journey's Escape and you could find interviews where various people that were either in the band or around it say things about the album. Plus with there being small areas of band members giving their opinions on the songs (Time 3) it doesn't really make for a good reading IMO.

[Peartree12249]

Ok folks.

A decision has been made. I choose none of the above.
But there are 2 things that I am far more passionate about - this new idea and my RNR TV show. So I'll work on those around site commitments and keep you all updated on developments.

Cheers,
Andrew.

IMO good choice. Best of luck Andrew whatever your goal.

Thanks to all for the input here to date. I may start a new thread in time to keep you up to date with "stuff".

Please do. I'm very curious to find out about your new project.