Red13JoePa wrote:Pelata wrote:RedJoe - you've got it in your head that I think Journey did something wrong or unethical. They did not. The band and management simply seized a massive opportunity...there's nothing wrong or underhanded about that and I never implied OR said that there was.
You're whining about the success being attributable mostly to good promotion. So in doing that, and not recognizing that it's done by ALL successful people, you're suggesting that Journey somehow had some kind of unfair advantage.
Dude, I'm not whining about anything. I'm simply making observational statements based on my point of view. How is stating a position "whining"? The fact that they marketed successfully and took advantage of a giant opportunity isn't up for debate...it's what happened. Now, if I "implied" anything, it's that for this work, Arnel had to be good and
Revelation had to be good. Can you point to where I said it was bad? For my personal taste, it doesn't quite trip my trigger. But it's obviously good for what it is. I did say that none of the marketing would have worked if Arnel could not sing...he had to deliver the good to the longtime Journey fans and, apparently, he did. But without the marketing (YouTube + the underdog angle) it would have tanked just like
Arrival and
Generations before it...without that marketing, it's just Journey w/ their 5th singer.
My point is that the songs are not the reason
Revelation went Platinum. Arnel's vocals are not the reason
Revelation went Platinum. If fate had it that
Revelation was released in 2000 w/ Augeri and
Arrival was released in 2008 w/ Arnel, then
Arrival would have gone Platinum. As it stands,
Arrival was a good album with poor marketing and
Revelation is a good album with excellent marketing...all the stars aligned on time for
Revelation to do what it did and I don't see how that can be denied. That doesn't take away from anyone's talent...it's just an observational fact.
