Jonathan Cain = Beethoven

[Ligzig]

Just what I thought. You fuckin Pinoys only care about Journey because of Pineda. If he wasn't signed to Journey, you wouldn't give two shits about the band. And yet here you are, calling yourselves "fans" and dissing Perry in all of the Youtube posts. Pathetic.

I don't see any soto fans or Augeri fans or loons screaming praise for Journeys current lineup...how is this any different? How can anyone call themselves "fans" of this band if they only care about Perry? Wouldn't they just be, oh, I don't know....fans of Steve Perry? There doesn't seem to be many screaming fangirls for Valory, Cain or Schon as a band. I also see both sides dissing on Youtube. It's not like Youtube is the most intellectual of places on the internet to gauge what sort of fanbase a certain band has. Yes, it is true that stupid shit is said in the Youtube comments section, but it is not exclusive to Journey and pinoys. Most people know Youtube comments are garbage and full of trolls. I've seen someone on this forum call Journey "Perrys band". Tell me that isn't as ridiculous as anything?

Again, a pathetic attempt at making a point. Shall I remind you that Augeri, as bad as he is/was, headlined over Styx and REO too. It's the music stupid, the catalog, not Pineda as to the reason why Journey is headlining. It's the music made famous by the chords of Steve Perry primarily, that Journey headlines over these other vanilla melodick acts.

Valid point. Nostalgia is key for a lot of these bands. Journey is a megastar with the greatest hits crowd.

Oh really? Go look at all those millions of ridiculous posts by Pinoy fans on youtube, dissing Perry and propping up Pineda. It's sickening that you fucking morons talk the way you do. I remember laughing out loud when all you idiots were saying that Pineda should have been the Super Bowl Halftime act instead of Bruce. I never have laughed so hard in my life. Then your boy went out and played the beer garden for the same game, and he shit the bed. Pineda was awful that day. Please remind me how Pineda is a better showman than Springsteen or Perry for that matter?

I've uploaded videos of Perry and Pineda and I see spam from BOTH sides. I wouldn't lump all loons or pinoys in the same boat. This sounds like some bitter rambling though more than anything. Sure, it's wrong to knock down the achievements of Perry and try to claim Arnel is the new king (THIS is ridiculous), but I don't see anything wrong with giving support. The superbowl is a stretch, but is that any real reason to make a sweeping generalization that all pinoy fans are morons?

Though I do agree, he was shit that day.

Perry sang the hardest catalog in music for about ten years. He did so without tuning down, without being a puss. Your boy was tuning down in the FIRST fucking year of singing with Journey. Give it two more years and he will be done, and I won't have to see you dumb motherfuckers littering the Net with your idiotic messages any more.

Arnel has also been singing for 20+ years. What has Perry been doing since TBF? Perry also sang his catalog using his own voice and natural range. It's not like Arnel is some young guy in his 20's. His voice is still in pretty good shape considering he even completely lost it once. Let's say he does only have 2 more years in him....didn't you say in another thread Journey would be done after another 2 years anyway? None of these guys are getting younger.

Before the loons claw my nipples off, you should know....Perry is definitely the greatest. I'm a closet loon. Personally, I don't care what happens to this band though....I spend more time lurking these forums enjoying drama than caring about the band at this point. I'm done with Journey, and have been for about a year.

[portland]

Just what I thought. You fuckin Pinoys only care about Journey because of Pineda. If he wasn't signed to Journey, you wouldn't give two shits about the band. And yet here you are, calling yourselves "fans" and dissing Perry in all of the Youtube posts. Pathetic.

I don't see any soto fans or Augeri fans or loons screaming praise for Journeys current lineup...how is this any different? How can anyone call themselves "fans" of this band if they only care about Perry? Wouldn't they just be, oh, I don't know....fans of Steve Perry? There doesn't seem to be many screaming fangirls for Valory, Cain or Schon as a band. I also see both sides dissing on Youtube. It's not like Youtube is the most intellectual of places on the internet to gauge what sort of fanbase a certain band has. Yes, it is true that stupid shit is said in the Youtube comments section, but it is not exclusive to Journey and pinoys. Most people know Youtube comments are garbage and full of trolls. I've seen someone on this forum call Journey "Perrys band". Tell me that isn't as ridiculous as anything?

Again, a pathetic attempt at making a point. Shall I remind you that Augeri, as bad as he is/was, headlined over Styx and REO too. It's the music stupid, the catalog, not Pineda as to the reason why Journey is headlining. It's the music made famous by the chords of Steve Perry primarily, that Journey headlines over these other vanilla melodick acts.

Valid point. Nostalgia is key for a lot of these bands. Journey is a megastar with the greatest hits crowd.

Oh really? Go look at all those millions of ridiculous posts by Pinoy fans on youtube, dissing Perry and propping up Pineda. It's sickening that you fucking morons talk the way you do. I remember laughing out loud when all you idiots were saying that Pineda should have been the Super Bowl Halftime act instead of Bruce. I never have laughed so hard in my life. Then your boy went out and played the beer garden for the same game, and he shit the bed. Pineda was awful that day. Please remind me how Pineda is a better showman than Springsteen or Perry for that matter?

I've uploaded videos of Perry and Pineda and I see spam from BOTH sides. I wouldn't lump all loons or pinoys in the same boat. This sounds like some bitter rambling though more than anything. Sure, it's wrong to knock down the achievements of Perry and try to claim Arnel is the new king (THIS is ridiculous), but I don't see anything wrong with giving support. The superbowl is a stretch, but is that any real reason to make a sweeping generalization that all pinoy fans are morons?

Though I do agree, he was shit that day.

Perry sang the hardest catalog in music for about ten years. He did so without tuning down, without being a puss. Your boy was tuning down in the FIRST fucking year of singing with Journey. Give it two more years and he will be done, and I won't have to see you dumb motherfuckers littering the Net with your idiotic messages any more.

Arnel has also been singing for 20+ years. What has Perry been doing since TBF? Perry also sang his catalog using his own voice and natural range. It's not like Arnel is some young guy in his 20's. His voice is still in pretty good shape considering he even completely lost it once. Let's say he does only have 2 more years in him....didn't you say in another thread Journey would be done after another 2 years anyway? None of these guys are getting younger.

Before the loons claw my nipples off, you should know....Perry is definitely the greatest. I'm a closet loon. Personally, I don't care what happens to this band though....I spend more time lurking these forums enjoying drama than caring about the band at this point. I'm done with Journey, and have been for about a year.

No clawing necessary....I just think there needs to be a certain respect for who paved the way...and the BS about the new KING is a bit much. I was not around for SA and JSS...my love for Journey had ended with TBF.

I don't think that SA or JSS were proclaimed the NEW KING of Journey as AP has been by his fans. There just seems to be a lack of knowledge of the band Journey and the back catalog of songs....how can you call yourself a fan if you don't know the song Just the Same Way?



Anyway....it is what it is...and well for me the Party's Over.

[Ligzig]

No clawing necessary....I just think there needs to be a certain respect for who paved the way...and the BS about the new KING is a bit much. I was not around for SA and JSS...my love for Journey had ended with TBF.

I don't think that SA or JSS were proclaimed the NEW KING of Journey as AP has been by his fans. There just seems to be a lack of knowledge of the band Journey and the back catalog of songs....how can you call yourself a fan if you don't know the song Just the Same Way?



Anyway....it is what it is...and well for me the Party's Over.

Neal is neal and has a quota for saying stupid shit. I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch over it. I'm not a fan of the Augeri, JSS, or Arnel eras (as far as recorded music goes) I think he sounds pretty good live and is a nice guy, like they all have been but that's it really. I used to look forward to the new CD. I just don't feel the magic though.

Lack of knowledge most definitely, but I think Journey was pretty popular with the pinoys before Arnel joined if I'm not mistaken....there are quite a few pinoy fans who PREFER Perry? Could be wrong....I think it's just a case of a few bad apples, but again my experience with them is limited.

The Party's Over is one of my favorite songs.

[portland]

No clawing necessary....I just think there needs to be a certain respect for who paved the way...and the BS about the new KING is a bit much. I was not around for SA and JSS...my love for Journey had ended with TBF.

I don't think that SA or JSS were proclaimed the NEW KING of Journey as AP has been by his fans. There just seems to be a lack of knowledge of the band Journey and the back catalog of songs....how can you call yourself a fan if you don't know the song Just the Same Way?



Anyway....it is what it is...and well for me the Party's Over.

Neal is neal and has a quota for saying stupid shit. I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch over it. I'm not a fan of the Augeri, JSS, or Arnel eras (as far as recorded music goes) I think he sounds pretty good live and is a nice guy, like they all have been but that's it really. I used to look forward to the new CD. I just don't feel the magic though.

Lack of knowledge most definitely, but I think Journey was pretty popular with the pinoys before Arnel joined if I'm not mistaken....there are quite a few pinoy fans who PREFER Perry? Could be wrong....I think it's just a case of a few bad apples, but again my experience with them is limited.

The Party's Over is one of my favorite songs.

I have far better things to get my panties in a bunch over....Neal could never do that!


I love The Party's Over as well.....and I know that this argument is an old one.

As far as the bad apples some of us just seem to feel the need to bring them back to reality.

[steveo777]

Just what I thought. You fuckin Pinoys only care about Journey because of Pineda. If he wasn't signed to Journey, you wouldn't give two shits about the band. And yet here you are, calling yourselves "fans" and dissing Perry in all of the Youtube posts. Pathetic.

I don't see any soto fans or Augeri fans or loons screaming praise for Journeys current lineup...how is this any different? How can anyone call themselves "fans" of this band if they only care about Perry? Wouldn't they just be, oh, I don't know....fans of Steve Perry? There doesn't seem to be many screaming fangirls for Valory, Cain or Schon as a band. I also see both sides dissing on Youtube. It's not like Youtube is the most intellectual of places on the internet to gauge what sort of fanbase a certain band has. Yes, it is true that stupid shit is said in the Youtube comments section, but it is not exclusive to Journey and pinoys. Most people know Youtube comments are garbage and full of trolls. I've seen someone on this forum call Journey "Perrys band". Tell me that isn't as ridiculous as anything?

Again, a pathetic attempt at making a point. Shall I remind you that Augeri, as bad as he is/was, headlined over Styx and REO too. It's the music stupid, the catalog, not Pineda as to the reason why Journey is headlining. It's the music made famous by the chords of Steve Perry primarily, that Journey headlines over these other vanilla melodick acts.

Valid point. Nostalgia is key for a lot of these bands. Journey is a megastar with the greatest hits crowd.

Oh really? Go look at all those millions of ridiculous posts by Pinoy fans on youtube, dissing Perry and propping up Pineda. It's sickening that you fucking morons talk the way you do. I remember laughing out loud when all you idiots were saying that Pineda should have been the Super Bowl Halftime act instead of Bruce. I never have laughed so hard in my life. Then your boy went out and played the beer garden for the same game, and he shit the bed. Pineda was awful that day. Please remind me how Pineda is a better showman than Springsteen or Perry for that matter?

I've uploaded videos of Perry and Pineda and I see spam from BOTH sides. I wouldn't lump all loons or pinoys in the same boat. This sounds like some bitter rambling though more than anything. Sure, it's wrong to knock down the achievements of Perry and try to claim Arnel is the new king (THIS is ridiculous), but I don't see anything wrong with giving support. The superbowl is a stretch, but is that any real reason to make a sweeping generalization that all pinoy fans are morons?

Though I do agree, he was shit that day.

Perry sang the hardest catalog in music for about ten years. He did so without tuning down, without being a puss. Your boy was tuning down in the FIRST fucking year of singing with Journey. Give it two more years and he will be done, and I won't have to see you dumb motherfuckers littering the Net with your idiotic messages any more.

Arnel has also been singing for 20+ years. What has Perry been doing since TBF? Perry also sang his catalog using his own voice and natural range. It's not like Arnel is some young guy in his 20's. His voice is still in pretty good shape considering he even completely lost it once. Let's say he does only have 2 more years in him....didn't you say in another thread Journey would be done after another 2 years anyway? None of these guys are getting younger.

Before the loons claw my nipples off, you should know....Perry is definitely the greatest. I'm a closet loon. Personally, I don't care what happens to this band though....I spend more time lurking these forums enjoying drama than caring about the band at this point. I'm done with Journey, and have been for about a year.

No clawing necessary....I just think there needs to be a certain respect for who paved the way...and the BS about the new KING is a bit much. I was not around for SA and JSS...my love for Journey had ended with TBF.

I don't think that SA or JSS were proclaimed the NEW KING of Journey as AP has been by his fans. There just seems to be a lack of knowledge of the band Journey and the back catalog of songs....how can you call yourself a fan if you don't know the song Just the Same Way?



Anyway....it is what it is...and well for me the Party's Over.

Was that when you were comatose from Big Ben macking your big ass???

[Ligzig]

I have far better things to get my panties in a bunch over....Neal could never do that!

Details....

As far as the bad apples some of us just seem to feel the need to bring them back to reality.

I honestly don't think Journey will get half the publicity they had before with this new tour or CD, that may be a slight wake up call....but then again....

[steveo777]

I have far better things to get my panties in a bunch over....Neal could never do that!

Details....

As far as the bad apples some of us just seem to feel the need to bring them back to reality.

I honestly don't think Journey will get half the publicity they had before with this new tour or CD, that may be a slight wake up call....but then again....

I disagree, but only because Journey will be exposed to more people in 2011 than they had been the previous 2 years. The tour will fan out to cover more venues next time around.

[portland]

Just what I thought. You fuckin Pinoys only care about Journey because of Pineda. If he wasn't signed to Journey, you wouldn't give two shits about the band. And yet here you are, calling yourselves "fans" and dissing Perry in all of the Youtube posts. Pathetic.

I don't see any soto fans or Augeri fans or loons screaming praise for Journeys current lineup...how is this any different? How can anyone call themselves "fans" of this band if they only care about Perry? Wouldn't they just be, oh, I don't know....fans of Steve Perry? There doesn't seem to be many screaming fangirls for Valory, Cain or Schon as a band. I also see both sides dissing on Youtube. It's not like Youtube is the most intellectual of places on the internet to gauge what sort of fanbase a certain band has. Yes, it is true that stupid shit is said in the Youtube comments section, but it is not exclusive to Journey and pinoys. Most people know Youtube comments are garbage and full of trolls. I've seen someone on this forum call Journey "Perrys band". Tell me that isn't as ridiculous as anything?

Again, a pathetic attempt at making a point. Shall I remind you that Augeri, as bad as he is/was, headlined over Styx and REO too. It's the music stupid, the catalog, not Pineda as to the reason why Journey is headlining. It's the music made famous by the chords of Steve Perry primarily, that Journey headlines over these other vanilla melodick acts.

Valid point. Nostalgia is key for a lot of these bands. Journey is a megastar with the greatest hits crowd.

Oh really? Go look at all those millions of ridiculous posts by Pinoy fans on youtube, dissing Perry and propping up Pineda. It's sickening that you fucking morons talk the way you do. I remember laughing out loud when all you idiots were saying that Pineda should have been the Super Bowl Halftime act instead of Bruce. I never have laughed so hard in my life. Then your boy went out and played the beer garden for the same game, and he shit the bed. Pineda was awful that day. Please remind me how Pineda is a better showman than Springsteen or Perry for that matter?

I've uploaded videos of Perry and Pineda and I see spam from BOTH sides. I wouldn't lump all loons or pinoys in the same boat. This sounds like some bitter rambling though more than anything. Sure, it's wrong to knock down the achievements of Perry and try to claim Arnel is the new king (THIS is ridiculous), but I don't see anything wrong with giving support. The superbowl is a stretch, but is that any real reason to make a sweeping generalization that all pinoy fans are morons?

Though I do agree, he was shit that day.

Perry sang the hardest catalog in music for about ten years. He did so without tuning down, without being a puss. Your boy was tuning down in the FIRST fucking year of singing with Journey. Give it two more years and he will be done, and I won't have to see you dumb motherfuckers littering the Net with your idiotic messages any more.

Arnel has also been singing for 20+ years. What has Perry been doing since TBF? Perry also sang his catalog using his own voice and natural range. It's not like Arnel is some young guy in his 20's. His voice is still in pretty good shape considering he even completely lost it once. Let's say he does only have 2 more years in him....didn't you say in another thread Journey would be done after another 2 years anyway? None of these guys are getting younger.

Before the loons claw my nipples off, you should know....Perry is definitely the greatest. I'm a closet loon. Personally, I don't care what happens to this band though....I spend more time lurking these forums enjoying drama than caring about the band at this point. I'm done with Journey, and have been for about a year.

No clawing necessary....I just think there needs to be a certain respect for who paved the way...and the BS about the new KING is a bit much. I was not around for SA and JSS...my love for Journey had ended with TBF.

I don't think that SA or JSS were proclaimed the NEW KING of Journey as AP has been by his fans. There just seems to be a lack of knowledge of the band Journey and the back catalog of songs....how can you call yourself a fan if you don't know the song Just the Same Way?



Anyway....it is what it is...and well for me the Party's Over.

Was that when you were comatose from Big Ben macking your big ass???

Yeah ok

That was Dan's line....and I am starting to like him more than you.

[portland]

I have far better things to get my panties in a bunch over....Neal could never do that!

Details....

As far as the bad apples some of us just seem to feel the need to bring them back to reality.

I honestly don't think Journey will get half the publicity they had before with this new tour or CD, that may be a slight wake up call....but then again....

I don't kiss and tell....

As far as the new CD we will see if Neal is king of the world or on the Titanic.

[Don]

There's a lot of Perry only fans among Filipinos, including my wife. When you're able to enjoy anonymity on the net you will always get the most rabid of the bunch of any fanbase. It's not so much that Arnel is a great singer, it's that he is Filipino that get's them acting like this. If he was a shitty singer the pinheads would still be cheering from the rafters and calling traitorous any pinoys who thought different. As much as the Flips proclaim it being about the music, it's not. It's all about having someone making it big out of a country that is usually at the bottom of the economic rung when measured amongst its peers in the Pacific Rim.
I think Neal says a lot of things that are mostly meant just for the Pinoy presence in the fanbase, It's their ability to combat without shame any criticism to present day Journey by pulling out the old soiled racecard that has become a valuable weapon for the band.
In the end, it doesn't matter as money trumps creativity is the common theme for 99% of these legacy bands anyway.

[Rockindeano]

There's a lot of Perry only fans among Filipinos, including my wife.

You really think there "a lot" of Perry onlies in the Flip camp?

It's not so much that Arnel is a great singer, it's that he is Filipino that get's them acting like this. If he was a shitty singer the pinheads would still be cheering from the rafters and calling traitorous any pinoys who thought different. As much as the Flips proclaim it being about the music, it's not. It's all about having someone making it big out of a country that is usually at the bottom of the economic rung when measured amongst its peers in the Pacific Rim.

That's what I have been trying to say, and this is also what pisses me off to no end. I think you hit the nail on the head. It wouldn't matter if Pineda sang like Perry or Dylan, he would still be "King" to them. Look at the Super Bowl argument I made as well...the Flips honestly thought Pineda should have taken over for Bruce and did the halftime show. They are flat out myopic.

I think Neal says a lot of things that are mostly meant just for the Pinoy presence in the fanbase, It's their ability to combat without shame any criticism to present day Journey by pulling out the old soiled racecard that has become a valuable weapon for the band.
In the end, it doesn't matter as money trumps creativity is the common theme for 99% of these legacy bands anyway.

Another food for thought post. You really think Neal is smart enough to conjure up statements meant for Filipinos only? I really don't think the guy is very sharp at all. He is just a freak of a talent. he can't read or write, but he can somehow play the shit out of the axe; go figure.

[Ligzig]

There's a lot of Perry only fans among Filipinos, including my wife. When you're able to enjoy anonymity on the net you will always get the most rabid of the bunch of any fanbase. It's not so much that Arnel is a great singer, it's that he is Filipino that get's them acting like this. If he was a shitty singer the pinheads would still be cheering from the rafters and calling traitorous any pinoys who thought different. As much as the Flips proclaim it being about the music, it's not. It's all about having someone making it big out of a country that is usually at the bottom of the economic rung when measured amongst its peers in the Pacific Rim.
I think Neal says a lot of things that are mostly meant just for the Pinoy presence in the fanbase, It's their ability to combat without shame any criticism to present day Journey by pulling out the old soiled racecard that has become a valuable weapon for the band.
In the end, it doesn't matter as money trumps creativity is the common theme for 99% of these legacy bands anyway.

Yep, those are the ones that stir up most of the shit I would imagine.

That last sentence is one reason it's hard for me to enjoy most of these bands anymore.

[Don]

Dean, whenever we are hanging with my old lady's friends, I can throw Houston on the TV and they all know it's Perry and they appreciate it. It's usually the ones fresh off the boat or those that refuse to assimulate (like the ones working in the file room at work) who like eating rice with their fingers while watching Wowowee all day and punctuating all their posts with " Proud to be filipino", these are the ones that think every video on youtube needs to be singing contest and have to be educated by those in the know that there is more to music than just making a living singing covers and how wonderful the value of creativity and originality can be over the long run.

[Jana]

Just what I thought. You fuckin Pinoys only care about Journey because of Pineda. If he wasn't signed to Journey, you wouldn't give two shits about the band. And yet here you are, calling yourselves "fans" and dissing Perry in all of the Youtube posts. Pathetic.

I don't see any soto fans or Augeri fans or loons screaming praise for Journeys current lineup...how is this any different? How can anyone call themselves "fans" of this band if they only care about Perry? Wouldn't they just be, oh, I don't know....fans of Steve Perry? There doesn't seem to be many screaming fangirls for Valory, Cain or Schon as a band. I also see both sides dissing on Youtube. It's not like Youtube is the most intellectual of places on the internet to gauge what sort of fanbase a certain band has. Yes, it is true that stupid shit is said in the Youtube comments section, but it is not exclusive to Journey and pinoys. Most people know Youtube comments are garbage and full of trolls. I've seen someone on this forum call Journey "Perrys band". Tell me that isn't as ridiculous as anything?

Again, a pathetic attempt at making a point. Shall I remind you that Augeri, as bad as he is/was, headlined over Styx and REO too. It's the music stupid, the catalog, not Pineda as to the reason why Journey is headlining. It's the music made famous by the chords of Steve Perry primarily, that Journey headlines over these other vanilla melodick acts.

Valid point. Nostalgia is key for a lot of these bands. Journey is a megastar with the greatest hits crowd.

Oh really? Go look at all those millions of ridiculous posts by Pinoy fans on youtube, dissing Perry and propping up Pineda. It's sickening that you fucking morons talk the way you do. I remember laughing out loud when all you idiots were saying that Pineda should have been the Super Bowl Halftime act instead of Bruce. I never have laughed so hard in my life. Then your boy went out and played the beer garden for the same game, and he shit the bed. Pineda was awful that day. Please remind me how Pineda is a better showman than Springsteen or Perry for that matter?

I've uploaded videos of Perry and Pineda and I see spam from BOTH sides. I wouldn't lump all loons or pinoys in the same boat. This sounds like some bitter rambling though more than anything. Sure, it's wrong to knock down the achievements of Perry and try to claim Arnel is the new king (THIS is ridiculous), but I don't see anything wrong with giving support. The superbowl is a stretch, but is that any real reason to make a sweeping generalization that all pinoy fans are morons?

Great common sense post. I've said the same thing when cuts thrown at Arnel fans on here. YouTube comments, for the most part, are nothing but trolls. I see stupid remarks by all kinds of posters on every singer for Journey. I can see they're all trolls, for the most part.

[Chubby321]

Just what I thought. You fuckin Pinoys only care about Journey because of Pineda. If he wasn't signed to Journey, you wouldn't give two shits about the band. And yet here you are, calling yourselves "fans" and dissing Perry in all of the Youtube posts. Pathetic.

I don't see any soto fans or Augeri fans or loons screaming praise for Journeys current lineup...how is this any different? How can anyone call themselves "fans" of this band if they only care about Perry? Wouldn't they just be, oh, I don't know....fans of Steve Perry? There doesn't seem to be many screaming fangirls for Valory, Cain or Schon as a band. I also see both sides dissing on Youtube. It's not like Youtube is the most intellectual of places on the internet to gauge what sort of fanbase a certain band has. Yes, it is true that stupid shit is said in the Youtube comments section, but it is not exclusive to Journey and pinoys. Most people know Youtube comments are garbage and full of trolls. I've seen someone on this forum call Journey "Perrys band". Tell me that isn't as ridiculous as anything?

Again, a pathetic attempt at making a point. Shall I remind you that Augeri, as bad as he is/was, headlined over Styx and REO too. It's the music stupid, the catalog, not Pineda as to the reason why Journey is headlining. It's the music made famous by the chords of Steve Perry primarily, that Journey headlines over these other vanilla melodick acts.

Valid point. Nostalgia is key for a lot of these bands. Journey is a megastar with the greatest hits crowd.

Oh really? Go look at all those millions of ridiculous posts by Pinoy fans on youtube, dissing Perry and propping up Pineda. It's sickening that you fucking morons talk the way you do. I remember laughing out loud when all you idiots were saying that Pineda should have been the Super Bowl Halftime act instead of Bruce. I never have laughed so hard in my life. Then your boy went out and played the beer garden for the same game, and he shit the bed. Pineda was awful that day. Please remind me how Pineda is a better showman than Springsteen or Perry for that matter?

I've uploaded videos of Perry and Pineda and I see spam from BOTH sides. I wouldn't lump all loons or pinoys in the same boat. This sounds like some bitter rambling though more than anything. Sure, it's wrong to knock down the achievements of Perry and try to claim Arnel is the new king (THIS is ridiculous), but I don't see anything wrong with giving support. The superbowl is a stretch, but is that any real reason to make a sweeping generalization that all pinoy fans are morons?

Though I do agree, he was shit that day.

Perry sang the hardest catalog in music for about ten years. He did so without tuning down, without being a puss. Your boy was tuning down in the FIRST fucking year of singing with Journey. Give it two more years and he will be done, and I won't have to see you dumb motherfuckers littering the Net with your idiotic messages any more.

Arnel has also been singing for 20+ years. What has Perry been doing since TBF? Perry also sang his catalog using his own voice and natural range. It's not like Arnel is some young guy in his 20's. His voice is still in pretty good shape considering he even completely lost it once. Let's say he does only have 2 more years in him....didn't you say in another thread Journey would be done after another 2 years anyway? None of these guys are getting younger.

Before the loons claw my nipples off, you should know....Perry is definitely the greatest. I'm a closet loon. Personally, I don't care what happens to this band though....I spend more time lurking these forums enjoying drama than caring about the band at this point. I'm done with Journey, and have been for about a year.

AP used to perform almost every night, 2-3 hours per set , 2 sets per night (common practice in Asia), with a hard catalog to boot. If I am not mistaken, they have more than 400 cover songs in their catalog.

May I remind everyone, AP fans did not start the war of words. The loons and JSS fans start it. They were mean, hostile and rude. After that, AP fans started to fight back.

I agree with Ligzig and Jana, re recent posts on youtube, most are from trolls and spammers.

[Rockindeano]

AP used to perform almost every night, 2-3 hours per set , 2 sets per night (common practice in Asia), with a hard catalog to boot. If I am not mistaken, they have more than 400 cover songs in their catalog.

May I remind everyone, AP fans did not start the war of words. The loons and JSS fans start it. They were mean, hostile and rude. After that, AP fans started to fight back.

I agree with Ligzig and Jana, re recent posts on youtube, most are from trolls and spammers.

1- Performing covers in a fucking bar is a lot different than singing your A game to 20,000 people nightly. BIG difference. AP was singing a Bryan Adams tune while Perry was hitting octaves never before heard. Is this all you got?

2- Bullshit with the Loons or Sotopops starting anything. You yourself showed your fucking ignorance when you didn't even know the song, Just the Same Way. You guys pissed people off annointing the "king" as soon as he walked in the damned door. You pissed on the Perry legacy, and that's what pissed a shit ton of people off.

3- While there are spammers and trolls on Youtube, your ilk has definitely lived there and contributed. Go search Super Bowl 2009 and tell me how many half cocked Flips were running their pieholes that week. Tons of you were.

4- Kiss my fat white ass Chubby.

[Chubby321]

AP used to perform almost every night, 2-3 hours per set , 2 sets per night (common practice in Asia), with a hard catalog to boot. If I am not mistaken, they have more than 400 cover songs in their catalog.

May I remind everyone, AP fans did not start the war of words. The loons and JSS fans start it. They were mean, hostile and rude. After that, AP fans started to fight back.

I agree with Ligzig and Jana, re recent posts on youtube, most are from trolls and spammers.

1- Performing covers in a fucking bar is a lot different than singing your A game to 20,000 people nightly. BIG difference. AP was singing a Bryan Adams tune while Perry was hitting octaves never before heard. Is this all you got?

2- Bullshit with the Loons or Sotopops starting anything. You yourself showed your fucking ignorance when you didn't even know the song, Just the Same Way. You guys pissed people off annointing the "king" as soon as he walked in the damned door. You pissed on the Perry legacy, and that's what pissed a shit ton of people off.

3- While there are spammers and trolls on Youtube, your ilk has definitely lived there and contributed. Go search Super Bowl 2009 and tell me how many half cocked Flips were running their pieholes that week. Tons of you were.

4- Kiss my fat white ass Chubby.

I got more, but I need to sleep. But now I don't know if I could. I was trying to, suddenly, I imagined a fat, white wrinkly and pimple ridden ass in front or me...not a good sight.

[Rockindeano]

AP used to perform almost every night, 2-3 hours per set , 2 sets per night (common practice in Asia), with a hard catalog to boot. If I am not mistaken, they have more than 400 cover songs in their catalog.

May I remind everyone, AP fans did not start the war of words. The loons and JSS fans start it. They were mean, hostile and rude. After that, AP fans started to fight back.

I agree with Ligzig and Jana, re recent posts on youtube, most are from trolls and spammers.

1- Performing covers in a fucking bar is a lot different than singing your A game to 20,000 people nightly. BIG difference. AP was singing a Bryan Adams tune while Perry was hitting octaves never before heard. Is this all you got?

2- Bullshit with the Loons or Sotopops starting anything. You yourself showed your fucking ignorance when you didn't even know the song, Just the Same Way. You guys pissed people off annointing the "king" as soon as he walked in the damned door. You pissed on the Perry legacy, and that's what pissed a shit ton of people off.

3- While there are spammers and trolls on Youtube, your ilk has definitely lived there and contributed. Go search Super Bowl 2009 and tell me how many half cocked Flips were running their pieholes that week. Tons of you were.

4- Kiss my fat white ass Chubby.

I got more, but I need to sleep. But now I don't know if I could. I was trying to, suddenly, I imagined a fat, white wrinkly and pimple ridden ass in front or me...not a good sight.

Actually, I don't really have a fat ass, and no pimples on there either. Hell you are the one with a "fat" handle. Chubby? I just can imagine how many lbs you are carrying around. Do you travel by boxcar or can you fit into a fuckin plane seat? Inquiring minds want to know.

Look, seriously, I have NO agenda against Pineda. I think he has amazing pipes. I think he is a shit front man, but whatever. My deal with you all is your ignorance and lack of knowledge into the bands' history. It's as if anything pre 2008 doesn't matter, yet, all those great songs that the "king" sings every other night IS pre 2008...in fact, they're pre 1998! The very history you all choose to ignore, is the same history your idol needs to embrace in order to fill a 10,000 seat theater. You diss the classic years and Perry in particular, yet you absolutely must rely on said era. It makes no sense. Why am I even trying to explain this to you pecker breath fuckheads?

Let me know when the "king" writes a single song, and you can shoot me in the balls with a rifle if any of them actually chart.

Good luck.

[portland]

AP used to perform almost every night, 2-3 hours per set , 2 sets per night (common practice in Asia), with a hard catalog to boot. If I am not mistaken, they have more than 400 cover songs in their catalog.

May I remind everyone, AP fans did not start the war of words. The loons and JSS fans start it. They were mean, hostile and rude. After that, AP fans started to fight back.

I agree with Ligzig and Jana, re recent posts on youtube, most are from trolls and spammers.

1- Performing covers in a fucking bar is a lot different than singing your A game to 20,000 people nightly. BIG difference. AP was singing a Bryan Adams tune while Perry was hitting octaves never before heard. Is this all you got?

2- Bullshit with the Loons or Sotopops starting anything. You yourself showed your fucking ignorance when you didn't even know the song, Just the Same Way. You guys pissed people off annointing the "king" as soon as he walked in the damned door. You pissed on the Perry legacy, and that's what pissed a shit ton of people off.

3- While there are spammers and trolls on Youtube, your ilk has definitely lived there and contributed. Go search Super Bowl 2009 and tell me how many half cocked Flips were running their pieholes that week. Tons of you were.

4- Kiss my fat white ass Chubby.

I got more, but I need to sleep. But now I don't know if I could. I was trying to, suddenly, I imagined a fat, white wrinkly and pimple ridden ass in front or me...not a good sight.

Actually, I don't really have a fat ass, and no pimples on there either. Hell you are the one with a "fat" handle. Chubby? I just can imagine how many lbs you are carrying around. Do you travel by boxcar or can you fit into a fuckin plane seat? Inquiring minds want to know.

Look, seriously, I have NO agenda against Pineda. I think he has amazing pipes. I think he is a shit front man, but whatever. My deal with you all is your ignorance and lack of knowledge into the bands' history. It's as if anything pre 2008 doesn't matter, yet, all those great songs that the "king" sings every other night IS pre 2008...in fact, they're pre 1998! The very history you all choose to ignore, is the same history your idol needs to embrace in order to fill a 10,000 seat theater. You diss the classic years and Perry in particular, yet you absolutely must rely on said era. It makes no sense. Why am I even trying to explain this to you pecker breath fuckheads?

Let me know when the "king" writes a single song, and you can shoot me in the balls with a rifle if any of them actually chart.

Good luck.

Most of us don't have an agenda against AP.....some just can't take the lack of knowledge and indifference of his fans.

Jana you have the back knowledge so if you choose to sit at the alter than that's your deal....although you seem to find Neal to be the king so I am not sure if you count as a total AP fan.


AP has always said he would step aside if Perry were to want to front Journey once again....I guess he hails to another king.

Deano I would not sign up for witness protection as of yet ...I think your balls will be safe with ^^^ that bet.

[Saint John]

I have far better things to get my panties in a bunch over

They could braid your panties and tie down a Carnival cruise ship.

[Saint John]

Most of us don't have an agenda against AP.....some just can't take the lack of knowledge and indifference of his fans.

Dean, too, is always puking up this garbage and it makes no fucking sense. Why do you give a fuck what they do or don't care about? Are they supposed to take some sort of Journey 101 course before they're allowed to enter the Journey fan club? How about this ... you enjoy the past and let them enjoy the present. They don't have to acknowledge or care about the past and you do the same with the present.

[portland]

I have far better things to get my panties in a bunch over

They could braid your panties and tie down a Carnival cruise ship.

Yes and they could use your mouth to house the entire fleet what's your point?

[portland]

Most of us don't have an agenda against AP.....some just can't take the lack of knowledge and indifference of his fans.

Dean, too, is always puking up this garbage and it makes no fucking sense. Why do you give a fuck what they do or don't care about? Are they supposed to take some sort of Journey 101 course before they're allowed to enter the Journey fan club? How about this ... you enjoy the past and let them enjoy the present. They don't have to acknowledge or care about the past and you do the same with the present.

Because asshole.....we have been told we are not fans because we don't like the current line up.

Listen I really don't give a flying fuck what you or anyone else here thinks....this is my opinion and I don't welcome yours.

[Saint John]

we have been told we are not fans because we don't like the current line up.

By whom?!?! Someone on the fucking internet?!?!:lol: Man, the fans of the guy that snorted a boomerang are just as fragile between the ears as him.

[portland]

we have been told we are not fans because we don't like the current line up.

By whom?!?! Someone on the fucking internet?!?!:lol: Man, the fans of the guy that snorted a boomerang are just as fragile between the ears as him.

Dan if we don't argue what will we do??

Go on a Carnival Cruise?

[Saint John]

Go on a Carnival Cruise?

I'll pass and just pay for yours. Enjoy your cruise ... to Somalia.

[portland]

Go on a Carnival Cruise?

I'll pass and just pay for yours. Enjoy your cruise ... to Somalia.

You are just so generous!

[Don]

Chubby? I just can imagine how many lbs you are carrying around. Do you travel by boxcar or can you fit into a fuckin plane seat? Inquiring minds want to know.

I've seen Chubby, she's not fat. Maybe a little cushion for the pushin' but what guy doesn't like that?

[steveo777]

Chubby? I just can imagine how many lbs you are carrying around. Do you travel by boxcar or can you fit into a fuckin plane seat? Inquiring minds want to know.

I've seen Chubby, she's not fat. Maybe a little cushion for the pushin' but what guy doesn't like that?

Deano probably didn't even know she was a woman when he cussed at her like a sailor.

[portland]

Chubby? I just can imagine how many lbs you are carrying around. Do you travel by boxcar or can you fit into a fuckin plane seat? Inquiring minds want to know.

I've seen Chubby, she's not fat. Maybe a little cushion for the pushin' but what guy doesn't like that?

Deano probably didn't even know she was a woman when he cussed at her like a sailor.

Doesn't seem to both Dan or You for that matter.