In a parallel universe...

[kgdjpubs]

Journey wouldn't be shit without Neal. SP and Friga would've cranked out a few For the love of strange medicine albums and then driftet into oblivion, working on turkey ranches or their biceps.

and Neal would have continue with more Journey, Look into the Future and Next - Columbia sends them packing.

Not true. By the early 90's he had success in BE, was in Hardline, and the early Journey reunion had everybody EXCEPT Perry. I have no doubt that Neal and Herbie would have continued on to record successful and popular music...they were not stuck in 1975. and Perry leading Journey would have ended no different then it did...except there would be no 'reunion' album to bolster any type of success.

Yeah, history doesn't seem to dictate such..... BE's RIAA certifications less than Steve Perry's and what's a "Hardline" anyway? Guess it was a "Hardline" or he would have stayed with it....

I know it's hard for you, but brace yourself and repeat after me "KC was just not to be the MAN" for they dismissed him too easily..

If being in a band that went platinum and had a #1 single wasn't considered success, I'd be interested to find out what you would call it. Probably would have sold more had the band not imploded before the 2nd album was even released. Hardline had enough clout to get songs prominently placed in a movie (Brandon Lee's Rapid Fire). Given time, the right people and the right promotion, chances are something would have done fairly well at some point.

Hindsight being 20/20, Chalfant would have been a better choice than bringing Perry back for one album. That said, if you had any faith that Perry would do more than record one album and vanish into the woodwork without one single live performance (either for tv or concert), it would be a bone-headed decision not to go with the tried and true lineup. Obviously, history didn't quite work out that way.

[Author2]

Who was bigger/better...Bad English or Velvet Revolver?
No need, really, to compare the two bands, per se.
Thing is, who made who?

Did Slash make VR?
Did Schon make BE? I think Schon did make Hard Line.
Interesting debate...

And who has Perry made?


later~

"That voice brought all the success to the band." Neal VH1

Journey existed from 1973 - 1977, but LIVED from 1978-1987!

[steveo777]

Who was bigger/better...Bad English or Velvet Revolver?
No need, really, to compare the two bands, per se.
Thing is, who made who?

Did Slash make VR?
Did Schon make BE? I think Schon did make Hard Line.
Interesting debate...

And who has Perry made?


later~

The combination of Schon and Cain made BE, just like they made Journey, but both bands required a frontman who could give them the edge and they had those with Waite and Perry. The core success of both bands came from the works of Schon and Cain. Some of your will deny that but, the lead singers were the icing on the cake, the cog in the wheel that churns out solid gold.

[kgdjpubs]

Who was bigger/better...Bad English or Velvet Revolver?
No need, really, to compare the two bands, per se.
Thing is, who made who?

Did Slash make VR?
Did Schon make BE? I think Schon did make Hard Line.
Interesting debate...

And who has Perry made?


later~

"That voice brought all the success to the band." Neal VH1

Journey existed from 1973 - 1977, but LIVED from 1978-1987!

I'd say it was a two-way street. Perry made Journey, or at minimum considerably raised the profile to a viable band. The addition of Cain to Perry and Schon made Journey. It wasn't one person, it was the combination of all three.

Journey made Perry. Suffice to say, chances are without Journey, nobody would know who Perry is as there's a chance he may never have gone back into the music business.

As far as the other debate, I'd say Dianne Warren made Bad English....and unmade it at the same time. Raised the profile of the band considerably, and contributed to the fracturing of the lineup.
On Hardline, Neal probably did make that band. Roping in a name guitarist to an unknown band is probably the reason they achieved what success they had.

[portland]

Who was bigger/better...Bad English or Velvet Revolver?
No need, really, to compare the two bands, per se.
Thing is, who made who?

Did Slash make VR?
Did Schon make BE? I think Schon did make Hard Line.
Interesting debate...

And who has Perry made?


later~

The combination of Schon and Cain made BE, just like they made Journey, but both bands required a frontman who could give them the edge and they had those with Waite and Perry. The core success of both bands came from the works of Schon and Cain. Some of your will deny that but, the lead singers were the icing on the cake, the cog in the wheel that churns out solid gold.

[Author2]

Journey wouldn't be shit without Neal. SP and Friga would've cranked out a few For the love of strange medicine albums and then driftet into oblivion, working on turkey ranches or their biceps.

and Neal would have continue with more Journey, Look into the Future and Next - Columbia sends them packing.

Not true. By the early 90's he had success in BE, was in Hardline, and the early Journey reunion had everybody EXCEPT Perry. I have no doubt that Neal and Herbie would have continued on to record successful and popular music...they were not stuck in 1975. and Perry leading Journey would have ended no different then it did...except there would be no 'reunion' album to bolster any type of success.

Yeah, history doesn't seem to dictate such..... BE's RIAA certifications less than Steve Perry's and what's a "Hardline" anyway? Guess it was a "Hardline" or he would have stayed with it....

I know it's hard for you, but brace yourself and repeat after me "KC was just not to be the MAN" for they dismissed him too easily..

If being in a band that went platinum and had a #1 single wasn't considered success, I'd be interested to find out what you would call it. Probably would have sold more had the band not imploded before the 2nd album was even released. Hardline had enough clout to get songs prominently placed in a movie (Brandon Lee's Rapid Fire). Given time, the right people and the right promotion, chances are something would have done fairly well at some point.

Hindsight being 20/20, Chalfant would have been a better choice than bringing Perry back for one album. That said, if you had any faith that Perry would do more than record one album and vanish into the woodwork without one single live performance (either for tv or concert), it would be a bone-headed decision not to go with the tried and true lineup. Obviously, history didn't quite work out that way.

"If" you can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two imposters just the same" by Rudyard Kipling - love that poem.

No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

[Author2]

Who was bigger/better...Bad English or Velvet Revolver?
No need, really, to compare the two bands, per se.
Thing is, who made who?

Did Slash make VR?
Did Schon make BE? I think Schon did make Hard Line.
Interesting debate...

And who has Perry made?


later~

"That voice brought all the success to the band." Neal VH1

Journey existed from 1973 - 1977, but LIVED from 1978-1987!

I'd say it was a two-way street. Perry made Journey, or at minimum considerably raised the profile to a viable band. The addition of Cain to Perry and Schon made Journey. It wasn't one person, it was the combination of all three.

Journey made Perry. Suffice to say, chances are without Journey, nobody would know who Perry is as there's a chance he may never have gone back into the music business.

As far as the other debate, I'd say Dianne Warren made Bad English....and unmade it at the same time. Raised the profile of the band considerably, and contributed to the fracturing of the lineup.
On Hardline, Neal probably did make that band. Roping in a name guitarist to an unknown band is probably the reason they achieved what success they had.

Sure, just more so. "It's that voice that distinguishes and w/o they would probably fade away." 1986 ROR

I take it that's the Dianne Warren song that Neal says "will never play another again."......

Did s/one say Steve Perry "quits" on everything.....

[kgdjpubs]

No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

[steveo777]

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No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

Journey would be a non-entity if they had waited on Perry. If not the hip replacement surgery, it would have been something else. The guy was done and I hate to admit it, but the decision to move on will go down in history as being the correct move, for the fragments of Journey, who reassembled a new stone, or three. Wheels in the bank keep on turnin'

[Author2]

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No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

Believe I read "Perry always keeps his word." J Cain

What did Steve Perry do excessively from 78-83? Did he not deliver big time to his detriment and how did they thank him - "get the surgery or get on the road"?

Great band mates, huh....

Seems No One has found that loaded gun yet?

[steveo777]

You have a guy with less than a high school education running this band, but yet, us fans try and over complicate and over analize the band's and Perry's divorce. It is what it is.

[Author2]

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No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

Journey would be a non-entity if they had waited on Perry. If not the hip replacement surgery, it would have been something else. The guy was done and I hate to admit it, but the decision to move on will go down in history as being the correct move, for the fragments of Journey, who reassembled a new stone, or three. Wheels in the bank keep on turnin'

Where is that crystal ball?

Greed keeps wheels turning. Let us see if they drive the new "cash cow" into the ground like they did Steve Perry.

Buy the way, "the guy" is name, Steve Perry. "The guy" that the new guy has to mock!

[Author2]

You have a guy with less than a high school education running this band, but yet, us fans try and over complicate and over analize the band's and Perry's divorce. It is what it is.

"Tribute Band" RollingStone 7/2008

[steveo777]

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No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

Journey would be a non-entity if they had waited on Perry. If not the hip replacement surgery, it would have been something else. The guy was done and I hate to admit it, but the decision to move on will go down in history as being the correct move, for the fragments of Journey, who reassembled a new stone, or three. Wheels in the bank keep on turnin'

Where is that crystal ball?

Greed keeps wheels turning. Let us see if they drive the new "cash cow" into the ground like they did Steve Perry.

Buy the way, "the guy" is name, Steve Perry. "The guy" that the new guy has to mock!

I said Perry.

[Author2]

a bunch of bolded and now hard to read text

No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

Journey would be a non-entity if they had waited on Perry. If not the hip replacement surgery, it would have been something else. The guy was done and I hate to admit it, but the decision to move on will go down in history as being the correct move, for the fragments of Journey, who reassembled a new stone, or three. Wheels in the bank keep on turnin'

Where is that crystal ball?

Greed keeps wheels turning. Let us see if they drive the new "cash cow" into the ground like they did Steve Perry.

Buy the way, "the guy" is name, Steve Perry. "The guy" that the new guy has to mock!

I said Perry.

You also rudely said "The guy."

If they had been kinder to Steve Perry, they would still be big and not playing catch up constantly.

[steveo777]

a bunch of bolded and now hard to read text

No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

Journey would be a non-entity if they had waited on Perry. If not the hip replacement surgery, it would have been something else. The guy was done and I hate to admit it, but the decision to move on will go down in history as being the correct move, for the fragments of Journey, who reassembled a new stone, or three. Wheels in the bank keep on turnin'

Where is that crystal ball?

Greed keeps wheels turning. Let us see if they drive the new "cash cow" into the ground like they did Steve Perry.

Buy the way, "the guy" is name, Steve Perry. "The guy" that the new guy has to mock!

I said Perry.

You also rudely said "The guy."

If they had been kinder to Steve Perry, they would still be big and not playing catch up constantly.

Rudely? There was nothing rude intended but if you want to read it that way....whatever. Kinder to Steve Perry?
What about the way Steve Perry treated them at times. It goes both ways, but some of you guys have tunnel vision.
I'm not going to go into any extended arguments here. We have done this shit thousands of times and we always get
the same result...nada. As I said earlier, it is what it is. We can't change it and so those of us that chose to remain fans
accept that we still have a pretty good band playing out there. Everyone would love to have Steve still out front but
we don't, so we deal.

[Ligzig]

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No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

Journey would be a non-entity if they had waited on Perry. If not the hip replacement surgery, it would have been something else. The guy was done and I hate to admit it, but the decision to move on will go down in history as being the correct move, for the fragments of Journey, who reassembled a new stone, or three. Wheels in the bank keep on turnin'

Where is that crystal ball?

Greed keeps wheels turning. Let us see if they drive the new "cash cow" into the ground like they did Steve Perry.

Buy the way, "the guy" is name, Steve Perry. "The guy" that the new guy has to mock!

I said Perry.

You also rudely said "The guy."

If they had been kinder to Steve Perry, they would still be big and not playing catch up constantly.

You are so full of shit. You should just off yourself and spare us the pain of having to read your ridiculous posts.

Journey would have been done after ROR if Perry had his way. Perry should have shown the rest of the band respect and maybe they wouldn't have had to can his lazy ass. It's a team effort. 1 guy out of 5 didn't want to work, explain to me again how this translates into becoming the fault of the other 4 members? because they didn't want to wait another 10 years for him to come to the conclusion that he is a lazy narcissist and he really didn't feel like a part of the band?

[steveo777]

Hey, Ligzig! I love your signature. I had the same thing in mine 2 weeks ago. Huxley was deep.

[Ligzig]

Thanks, Steve. It's all about the things unspoken.

[Author2]

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No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

Journey would be a non-entity if they had waited on Perry. If not the hip replacement surgery, it would have been something else. The guy was done and I hate to admit it, but the decision to move on will go down in history as being the correct move, for the fragments of Journey, who reassembled a new stone, or three. Wheels in the bank keep on turnin'

Where is that crystal ball?

Greed keeps wheels turning. Let us see if they drive the new "cash cow" into the ground like they did Steve Perry.

Buy the way, "the guy" is name, Steve Perry. "The guy" that the new guy has to mock!

I said Perry.

You also rudely said "The guy."

If they had been kinder to Steve Perry, they would still be big and not playing catch up constantly.

You are so full of shit. You should just off yourself and spare us the pain of having to read your ridiculous posts.

Journey would have been done after ROR if Perry had his way. Perry should have shown the rest of the band respect and maybe they wouldn't have had to can his lazy ass. It's a team effort. 1 guy out of 5 didn't want to work, explain to me again how this translates into becoming the fault of the other 4 members? because they didn't want to wait another 10 years for him to come to the conclusion that he is a lazy narcissist and he really didn't feel like a part of the band?

Try taking your own advice" spare [me] the pain of having to read your ridiculous posts."

That band would not know what, specifically that cocky guitar player, "respect" is if it jumped up and bit'em. When did Journey b/c a "team effort" when you got a greedy guitar player that's like "peeping through a keyhole" to see his cocky arrogant behind. Perry surely wasn't "lazy" blowing out his pipes from 78-84, huh. Songs played today are what he made famous for a band that was not gungho for him till the dollars started rolling in. Of course, he wouldn't "have felt a part of the band"! Not to mention that "desperate" band that hired a "copycat" to insulting mock him.

Now you "explain to me" "what SP did to the band." "Last time I checked" they were still "living off past glories" created with Steve Perry and.

No need to "off yourself" for you're quite off already!

[Monker]

Journey wouldn't be shit without Neal. SP and Friga would've cranked out a few For the love of strange medicine albums and then driftet into oblivion, working on turkey ranches or their biceps.

and Neal would have continue with more Journey, Look into the Future and Next - Columbia sends them packing.

Not true. By the early 90's he had success in BE, was in Hardline, and the early Journey reunion had everybody EXCEPT Perry. I have no doubt that Neal and Herbie would have continued on to record successful and popular music...they were not stuck in 1975. and Perry leading Journey would have ended no different then it did...except there would be no 'reunion' album to bolster any type of success.

Yeah, history doesn't seem to dictate such..... BE's RIAA certifications less than Steve Perry's and what's a "Hardline" anyway? Guess it was a "Hardline" or he would have stayed with it....

I know it's hard for you, but brace yourself and repeat after me "KC was just not to be the MAN" for they dismissed him too easily..

First of all, I'm glad KC did not join Journey. Why would I wish such torture on someone?

Second the "history" of what happened overnight in this thread dictates that you like to act like an ass. I used to have fun playing with idiots like you...now it just seems like a waste of time.

Have fun, until Andrew kicks you off.

[Author2]

Journey wouldn't be shit without Neal. SP and Friga would've cranked out a few For the love of strange medicine albums and then driftet into oblivion, working on turkey ranches or their biceps.

and Neal would have continue with more Journey, Look into the Future and Next - Columbia sends them packing.

Not true. By the early 90's he had success in BE, was in Hardline, and the early Journey reunion had everybody EXCEPT Perry. I have no doubt that Neal and Herbie would have continued on to record successful and popular music...they were not stuck in 1975. and Perry leading Journey would have ended no different then it did...except there would be no 'reunion' album to bolster any type of success.

Yeah, history doesn't seem to dictate such..... BE's RIAA certifications less than Steve Perry's and what's a "Hardline" anyway? Guess it was a "Hardline" or he would have stayed with it....

I know it's hard for you, but brace yourself and repeat after me "KC was just not to be the MAN" for they dismissed him too easily..

First of all, I'm glad KC did not join Journey. Why would I wish such torture on someone?

Second the "history" of what happened overnight in this thread dictates that you like to act like an ass. I used to have fun playing with idiots like you...now it just seems like a waste of time.

Have fun, until Andrew kicks you off.

I guess it takes one to know one! And, it's the same "history" of what most often "happens overnight in the threads," but now you're just hearing it from a non-regular, and you don't like it. I never "have fun playing with idiots." And let that be Andrew and not you.

Have a Great day!

[Arkansas]

Who was bigger/better...Bad English or Velvet Revolver?
No need, really, to compare the two bands, per se.
Thing is, who made who?

Did Slash make VR?
Did Schon make BE? I think Schon did make Hard Line.
Interesting debate...

And who has Perry made?


later~

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Who has Perry made since Journey?



later~

[whirlwind]

Thanks, Steve. It's all about the things unspoken.

I feel that your quote is perfect for this topic.

I have always felt that Perry and Schon complete each other. The sound of Journey is based on that unique sound of their great talents. To me it has proven to be so since Perry left. It's not how good they might be without the other, it's bigger in that it's the sound of a band that was magic and thrilled us so.

Perry has admitted that Schon was the musician that was the best to work with, to get the job done, if not personally. I really think that we could hear the old Journey sound again if they would break the silence, grow the hell up and do what they both do best; make Journey music the way that only Perry/Schon can make. Never, no way, one without the other.

[kgdjpubs]

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No one should be forced to have surgery!!!

No, they shouldn't. The lack of ONE live performance since then makes me wonder if he would have actually toured if they had kept on waiting for him to have the surgery on his terms. It's a legit question.

You're dealing with MILLIONS of dollars at work on a tour like that and 50 people who's living is being put on hold by the time you factor in the road crew, not to mention promoters and--most likely--a very angry record company because you now have a lead singer who is unwilling to promote the album. You are talking about a bunch of people that are being directly or indirectly affected by the decision. You can't let one person hold a business hostage--and it is a business when you get to that level.

It's an ugly situation all the way around, but you have to make a decision at some point before the lack of a decision becomes a decision itself.

Believe I read "Perry always keeps his word." J Cain

What did Steve Perry do excessively from 78-83? Did he not deliver big time to his detriment and how did they thank him - "get the surgery or get on the road"?

Great band mates, huh....

Seems No One has found that loaded gun yet?

There's a big difference between 1983 and 1996. Nobody is the same. Not even Perry.

If the injury happened in the fall of 1996, that means they waited give or take one year for him. One would think that's more than enough time for Perry to determine whether to go ahead with the surgery, explore options or do something. After that amount of time, Perry's going to have to know what he is going to have to do eventually. For everyone else, how long is long enough to wait? One year? 5 years? 10 years? 6 months? You have to draw a line somewhere (or at least make visible progress towards crossing the line to signify your intentions), or the lack of a decision becomes the decision itself and the band is back in indefinite hiatus.

[*Laura]

It's all about the things unspoken.

From this entire banter, I stopped at the quote above... Has it ever occured to any of you that maybe, just MAYBE, some things are better left unspoken?
Of course, I am talking about Journey and their "internal affairs" which are obviously not meant for the general public.
Here's an example (a comparison, if you want): Neal never gave out specific details about his marriages and about what went on in the bedrooms, right? The public only knew about the outcomes: divorces. Sure, people made/make suppositions but that's exactly what they are - suppositions.
Just like that, Perry will never tell what really happened in 1998 with his life or his health, so we only know the outcome: he chose something that was better for him and "divorced" Journey.

So why do fans feel like the members of this band owe any explanations about what happened behind the doors? Maybe the truth would hurt too much, it may disappoint and actually distract everybody from the real purpose of a band: to give us MUSIC.
So yeah, some things are definitely better left unspoken.

Just my humble opinion.

[S2M]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiEwKAJw2wA

[annpea]

It's all about the things unspoken.

From this entire banter, I stopped at the quote above... Has it ever occured to any of you that maybe, just MAYBE, some things are better left unspoken?
Of course, I am talking about Journey and their "internal affairs" which are obviously not meant for the general public.
Here's an example (a comparison, if you want): Neal never gave out specific details about his marriages and about what went on in the bedrooms, right? The public only knew about the outcomes: divorces. Sure, people made/make suppositions but that's exactly what they are - suppositions.
Just like that, Perry will never tell what really happened in 1998 with his life or his health, so we only know the outcome: he chose something that was better for him and "divorced" Journey.

So why do fans feel like the members of this band owe any explanations about what happened behind the doors? Maybe the truth would hurt too much, it may disappoint and actually distract everybody from the real purpose of a band: to give us MUSIC.
So yeah, some things are definitely better left unspoken.

Just my humble opinion.

+1000 Some secrets could make you cry or die a thousand times over... so leaving some things unspoken is truly the best thing to do in some situations.

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Who was bigger/better...Bad English or Velvet Revolver?
No need, really, to compare the two bands, per se.
Thing is, who made who?

Did Slash make VR?
Did Schon make BE? I think Schon did make Hard Line.
Interesting debate...

And who has Perry made?


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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Who has Perry made since Journey?


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Who has Journey made since Perry and who has needed to basically steal Perry's identity?

"If A BAND STICKS AROUND long enough it turns into a tribute band for years Journey has logged around the oldies' circuit with a rotating cast of singers trying to impersonate Steve Perry." RollingStone 7/2008

[SF-Dano]

Who was bigger/better...Bad English or Velvet Revolver?
No need, really, to compare the two bands, per se.
Thing is, who made who?

Did Slash make VR?
Did Schon make BE? I think Schon did make Hard Line.
Interesting debate...

And who has Perry made?


later~

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Who has Perry made since Journey?


later~

Who has Journey made since Perry and who has needed to basically steal Perry's identity?

"If A BAND STICKS AROUND long enough it turns into a tribute band for years Journey has logged around the oldies' circuit with a rotating cast of singers trying to impersonate Steve Perry." RollingStone 7/2008

The fact that you continue to quote Rolling Stone tells everyone here not to put much credibility in your comments. Why don't you go way back to the 80s and find a few of the many unfavorable things that trash mag had to say about your boy Steve Perry. Then post them here. Shouldn't be much trouble as Rolling Stone has continually dogged Perry and Journey for decades.