Was the Newcastle Metro concert played in lower key?

[Gideon]

Perry toured for ten years between late '77 and the Achorage gig in '87, pretty much with no reprieve.

Consulting the (admittedly fallible) Wiki, I think Perry toured for 7 of those 10 years.

[Rick]

Nope, I'm not taking thing too seriously, just calling the situation as I see it. You asked a question, I tried to answer it and you didn't like the answer and busted my balls = asshole.

If you you can't tell the difference in a half or whole step down, how can you tell if a guy has emotion or control or can hit high notes for that matter? Really?

That may be but you asked the question so quit being an asshole when someone tries to answer it for you. If you already knew the answer then why ask the question? Oh, yes, return to the first sentence and go listen to Biohazard.

Not being an assshole at all, and again, you must take things WAY too seriously...
James Durbin?!?!?!? That's the bvest you could offer? So what. He's a twenty-something kid that can hit some high notes...
But he doesn't have a pubic's hair worth of emotion or control required to sing a catalog like Journey's night after night.

I guess people will decide on their own; would you rather the band just stop touring and retire since they keep putting singers out to pasture,
or would you rather they try to play things smart to keep this thing going awhile longer?

While your question makes no sense, QUOTE BELOW, if you can, for gods sake. You and a few others do this and it's as annoying as my next butt scope dude. QUOTE BELOW. You're pretty much wrong about everything else too, if that makes any difference. Better advice? Stop posting.

[conversationpc]

While your question makes no sense, QUOTE BELOW, if you can, for gods sake. You and a few others do this and it's as annoying as my next butt scope dude. QUOTE BELOW. You're pretty much wrong about everything else too, if that makes any difference. Better advice? Stop posting.

Agreed...It's better than some who don't quote anything and you don't know who the hell they're talking to but it's confusing as well.

[Aaron]

I'll do both, thanks for you expert input. I understand that my opinion is wrong and your opinion is right. I'm not sure what I was thinking here. Do you know anything about music or play at all?

Nope, I'm not taking thing too seriously, just calling the situation as I see it. You asked a question, I tried to answer it and you didn't like the answer and busted my balls = asshole.

If you you can't tell the difference in a half or whole step down, how can you tell if a guy has emotion or control or can hit high notes for that matter? Really?

That may be but you asked the question so quit being an asshole when someone tries to answer it for you. If you already knew the answer then why ask the question? Oh, yes, return to the first sentence and go listen to Biohazard.

Not being an assshole at all, and again, you must take things WAY too seriously...
James Durbin?!?!?!? That's the bvest you could offer? So what. He's a twenty-something kid that can hit some high notes...
But he doesn't have a pubic's hair worth of emotion or control required to sing a catalog like Journey's night after night.

I guess people will decide on their own; would you rather the band just stop touring and retire since they keep putting singers out to pasture,
or would you rather they try to play things smart to keep this thing going awhile longer?

While your question makes no sense, QUOTE BELOW, if you can, for gods sake. You and a few others do this and it's as annoying as my next butt scope dude. QUOTE BELOW. You're pretty much wrong about everything else too, if that makes any difference. Better advice? Stop posting.

[Carlitto H@kk]

I'll do both, thanks for you expert input. I understand that my opinion is wrong and your opinion is right. I'm not sure what I was thinking here. Do you know anything about music or play at all?
.

Since you asked such a ridiculous question, I'll bite...
Yes, I believe I do know a lot about music. Been in love with music,
And have listened to music constantly pretty much since birth. Also, I've been playing guitar, bass,
And/or keys for almost 30 years, not to mention I have sung in several bands and cover-bands over the past 20yrs.
I also can sing some mean karaoke . Is that resume good enough to give you an opinion?

I can't see or hear any issues with a band like Journey dropping a half-step to preserve a singer's voice and stamina.
And I definitely do not understand how that little of an adjustment can change the meaning, message, feel, or sonic pleasure
Of any song. We're not changing much. They aren't going full-on drop-D or drop-C here. And I believe, because it works for me when performing or writing, that dropping down that extra half-step actually allows me to inject even more feeling and power cuz it gives me that extra "space" to work with. I'm sure a lot of other singers, especially those of us getting up there in age, would agree.

Only a handful of fanatics at these shows will even notice or care of Journey makes this a habit. But I think it's a good call for the long haul. Personally, I don't plan on seeing them this year or anytime soon. If you've seen them once over the past 6-7 years, then you've seen all you need to know. Until they get adventurous with the setlist, and maybe pull out more deep tracks and Augeri-era cuts, I have no desire to see them live... However, I hope they can preserve Arnel's voice long enuff to give us a few more studio albums. Like Jon and Neal have alluded to, with Arnel's range right now their possibilities are endless. I kinda wish they would just cut this tour short, and get right back in the studio. I really love the direction they went with Eclipse musically, and would love to see them try to take it a step further, maybe even bring in a few outside collaborators for that extra punch. It'd be a shame to cut this run short because they over-worked Arnel's voice...

And as to all the comparisons to how Perry would never have let this happen, if memory serves me right, the last time Perry sang live with " Journey" was at the Bill Graham Tribute where Jon and Neal sounded like they were down a WHOLE STEP, and Perry STILL sounded horrible... He might still be singing today had someone took steps to help him preserve that incredible voice.

[Saint John]

And as to all the comparisons to how Perry would never have let this happen, if memory serves me right, the last time Perry sang live with " Journey" was at the Bill Graham Tribute where Jon and Neal sounded like they were down a WHOLE STEP, and Perry STILL sounded horrible... He might still be singing today had someone took steps to help him preserve that incredible voice.

"There were so many people out there in Golden Gate Park for Bill Graham's wake. The Grateful Dead, Aaron Neville and all these artists performed and Journey performed that day. Journey performed, you take these songs and you get a tape of that and they took them down two whole steps. I mean, this is from E to A. They passed G to A, you know what I mean?
Knocking 'em down hard and Steve Perry's voice was all broken up. So, you know, forget about it. It was just so revealing. That was in '91 at which point that day I hadn't seen him since 1986 Raised on Radio and that was five years. And what an ugly encounter that was with Steve Perry that day.
That was the last time I ever saw him, Bill Graham's wake, and if I never saw him again it would be too soon."

[Art Vandelay]

And as to all the comparisons to how Perry would never have let this happen, if memory serves me right, the last time Perry sang live with " Journey" was at the Bill Graham Tribute where Jon and Neal sounded like they were down a WHOLE STEP, and Perry STILL sounded horrible... He might still be singing today had someone took steps to help him preserve that incredible voice.

"There were so many people out there in Golden Gate Park for Bill Graham's wake. The Grateful Dead, Aaron Neville and all these artists performed and Journey performed that day. Journey performed, you take these songs and you get a tape of that and they took them down two whole steps. I mean, this is from E to A. They passed G to A, you know what I mean?
Knocking 'em down hard and Steve Perry's voice was all broken up. So, you know, forget about it. It was just so revealing. That was in '91 at which point that day I hadn't seen him since 1986 Raised on Radio and that was five years. And what an ugly encounter that was with Steve Perry that day.
That was the last time I ever saw him, Bill Graham's wake, and if I never saw him again it would be too soon."

That was also the first time that he took the stage and sang live since 1986. Any singer who tried that without rehearsal would be broken up and rusty. I can't speak for any conversations or personality clashes from that day, but I still say that this performance shouldn't be judged.

[Saint John]

That was also the first time that he took the stage and sang live since 1986. Any singer who tried that without rehearsal would be broken up and rusty. I can't speak for any conversations or personality clashes from that day, but I still say that this performance shouldn't be judged.

I agree and disagree, Art. It shouldn't be judged as to how good his voice could be, but it should be judged based on the actual performance for that day ... if that makes any sense! And I think the condition in which he took the stage in should definitely be judged. Lordy!

[Art Vandelay]

That was also the first time that he took the stage and sang live since 1986. Any singer who tried that without rehearsal would be broken up and rusty. I can't speak for any conversations or personality clashes from that day, but I still say that this performance shouldn't be judged.

I agree and disagree, Art. It shouldn't be judged as to how good his voice could be, but it should be judged based on the actual performance for that day ... if that makes any sense! And I think the condition in which he took the stage in should definitely be judged. Lordy!

I swear that you must have seen a different version of the video than me, because I don't see it

[Gideon]

I swear that you must have seen a different version of the video than me, because I don't see it

Nah, Dan's right. He sounded like shit. All of them had their off days (Perry, Augeri, Soto, Arnel, etc.), they're human and we needn't fear calling them out on it.

[Art Vandelay]

I swear that you must have seen a different version of the video than me, because I don't see it

Nah, Dan's right. He sounded like shit. All of them had their off days (Perry, Augeri, Soto, Arnel, etc.), they're human and we needn't fear calling them out on it.

That's not the condition that Dan is talking about, or the one that I'm questioning. Dan makes it sound like it was Frank Gallagher from Shameless singing up there on the stage.