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[JRNYMAN]

Pros & Cons on Rascal Flatts FB....
but this was the funniest one ..


Wagner..... "Journey lead singer was horrible sounded like Peter Brady going thru puberty"

"When it's time to change, then it's time to change..."

[Aaron]

I thought Gary carried the day on the last three songs of the show. He covered the songs well and sang in key for his parts. It looked like he was struggling to find where he and Arnel fit when they both tried to harmonize. I felt like Gary was backing off to give Arnel room due to his lack of confidence.

Arnel was not good. He was off pitch on songs that sounded detuned (haven't checked) and overall struggled in my opinion. I've not been a fan for a while and this confirms my thoughts. The dude is not that good. Go beg Perry to come back (detuned) or get Chalfant, Hugo, Jeremey or Jason and give the music what it deserves for fucks sake.

[slucero]

I thought Gary carried the day on the last three songs of the show. He covered the songs well and sang in key for his parts. It looked like he was struggling to find where he and Arnel fit when they both tried to harmonize. I felt like Gary was backing off to give Arnel room due to his lack of confidence.

Arnel was not good. He was off pitch on songs that sounded detuned (haven't checked) and overall struggled in my opinion. I've not been a fan for a while and this confirms my thoughts. The dude is not that good. Go beg Perry to come back (detuned) or get Chalfant, Hugo, Jeremey or Jason and give the music what it deserves for fucks sake.

The thing that was really obvious to me was that Arnel did no harmonizing... that they didn't have much in the way of rehearsal was obvious too..

[ebake02]

I'm wondering if this was a thrown together at the last minute kind of thing. If it was that would definitely explain why the whole thing sounded like shit.

[Don]

I'm wondering if this was a thrown together at the last minute kind of thing. If it was that would definitely explain why the whole thing sounded like shit.

They had three days to rehearse once ALL of Journey's members finally showed up.

[wednesday's child]

Three days to come up with all that garbage?
It's embarrassing and unworthy of the Journey legacy.

I suppose they'll keep on milking things to the last drop, though.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[ebake02]

I'm wondering if this was a thrown together at the last minute kind of thing. If it was that would definitely explain why the whole thing sounded like shit.

They had three days to rehearse once ALL of Journey's members finally showed up.

That doesn't sound like much considering both bands had learn songs from scratch that had never played before. Although that still doesn't excuse Arnel from blowing songs he sings on a regular basis.

[tater1977]

CMT put the video back up...

http://www.cmt.com/videos/cmt-crossroad ... sode.jhtml

[Infinity Vocalist 2010]

I could see this backlash coming in 2011... Arnel CLEARLY needs a bit more downtime, he's 45 years old, and not getting younger. Augeri was going downhill about the same time, even though he was still dodgy at best... and now Neal says a summer tour with Rascal Flatts is in the cards. Disaster waiting to happen, in my opinion. And we all know that when Arnel's done, the next guy will come and be awesome for 2 years until the weight of the catalog becomes too much. Fuck what the guys have said. Neal already contradicted it. The Journey will continue.

Get ready. Coming to an ampitheatre near you in 2013: "Tapegate 2: Electric Boogaloo"

[Aaron]

Agree. Harmonizing isn't easy to do, especially without and prep time with other singer(s). I was surprised at how poor Arnel sounded on the Journey songs. I'm not sure what's going on but he sounded very strained. I'm not sure if the mic wasn't hot enough causing him to over sing or what but it was ugly.

Arnel, the next time you're in Nashville, go spend a day with Brett Manning. The dude knows how the voice works and can help you hit the notes without pulling up chest voice to the point it kills you. http://www.brettmanningstudios.com/coaches The dude is good and can help you.

I thought Gary carried the day on the last three songs of the show. He covered the songs well and sang in key for his parts. It looked like he was struggling to find where he and Arnel fit when they both tried to harmonize. I felt like Gary was backing off to give Arnel room due to his lack of confidence.

Arnel was not good. He was off pitch on songs that sounded detuned (haven't checked) and overall struggled in my opinion. I've not been a fan for a while and this confirms my thoughts. The dude is not that good. Go beg Perry to come back (detuned) or get Chalfant, Hugo, Jeremey or Jason and give the music what it deserves for fucks sake.

The thing that was really obvious to me was that Arnel did no harmonizing... that they didn't have much in the way of rehearsal was obvious too..

[WalrusOct9]

Not sure if this has been addressed here, but songs were not tuned down 1/2 step at this gig. Maybe that's part of it.

[slucero]

Not sure if this has been addressed here, but songs were not tuned down 1/2 step at this gig. Maybe that's part of it.

I went back and checked.. yer correct.. all the Journey songs were in the original key...

[Ehwmatt]

I'm wondering if this was a thrown together at the last minute kind of thing. If it was that would definitely explain why the whole thing sounded like shit.

They had three days to rehearse once ALL of Journey's members finally showed up.

That doesn't sound like much considering both bands had learn songs from scratch that had never played before. Although that still doesn't excuse Arnel from blowing songs he sings on a regular basis.

At their level of musicianship, 3 days is plenty of time. Both bands songs are mostly basic in terms of chord structure, rhythm... Only hard parts are the solos and stuff. Pro musicians can learn songs at a blisteringly fast pace.

[steveo777]

I just watched it again. It's fantastic. Most of the people I work with loved it. About the only complaint was about Arnel's pants.

[slucero]

talk about selective hearing..

[Gideon]

talk about selective hearing..

This shouldn't be your first encounter with it on this board. Loons are notorious for it.

[cinkidd]

I just watched it again. It's fantastic. Most of the people I work with loved it. About the only complaint was about Arnel's pants.

Time to get your hearing checked.

I love Journey, but what I heard was a train wreck from the get go. AP actually did better on the RF stuff than he did on the Journey songs.

In my opinion Journey needs to finish up this year with AP and announce that they are going to try and get SP back for few select dates in 2014 and call it a career. Of course SP may tell them to pound pavement but they need to give it a try.

Rich the Pavement Guy

[steveo777]

I just watched it again. It's fantastic. Most of the people I work with loved it. About the only complaint was about Arnel's pants.

Time to get your hearing checked.

I love Journey, but what I heard was a train wreck from the get go. AP actually did better on the RF stuff than he did on the Journey songs.

In my opinion Journey needs to finish up this year with AP and announce that they are going to try and get SP back for few select dates in 2014 and call it a career. Of course SP may tell them to pound pavement but they need to give it a try.

Rich the Pavement Guy

They don't need SP any more than they need this house of critics. They'll be fine. It was cross roads folks. Everyone around here predicted Journey's death after Super Bowl 2009. It didn't happen.

I'm looking forward to this year's tour.

[jestor92]

Agree. Harmonizing isn't easy to do, especially without and prep time with other singer(s). I was surprised at how poor Arnel sounded on the Journey songs. I'm not sure what's going on but he sounded very strained. I'm not sure if the mic wasn't hot enough causing him to over sing or what but it was ugly.

Arnel, the next time you're in Nashville, go spend a day with Brett Manning. The dude knows how the voice works and can help you hit the notes without pulling up chest voice to the point it kills you. http://www.brettmanningstudios.com/coaches The dude is good and can help you.

I thought Gary carried the day on the last three songs of the show. He covered the songs well and sang in key for his parts. It looked like he was struggling to find where he and Arnel fit when they both tried to harmonize. I felt like Gary was backing off to give Arnel room due to his lack of confidence.

Arnel was not good. He was off pitch on songs that sounded detuned (haven't checked) and overall struggled in my opinion. I've not been a fan for a while and this confirms my thoughts. The dude is not that good. Go beg Perry to come back (detuned) or get Chalfant, Hugo, Jeremey or Jason and give the music what it deserves for fucks sake.

The thing that was really obvious to me was that Arnel did no harmonizing... that they didn't have much in the way of rehearsal was obvious too..

Arnel sucks and he's been over singing the music since day 1. The man has a great voice when he's singing in his normal range, but when he tries to get into Perry's upper range he strains and over sings the songs and it kills the song. He even does it with their new matierial and it kills those songs. That was one thing I enjoyed about Augeri's time with the band, he knew his range limits and tended to stay within those bounds (especially on studio tracks). After Tapegate fuck these guys I enjoy watching their ship fucking slowly sink.

[steveo777]

Agree. Harmonizing isn't easy to do, especially without and prep time with other singer(s). I was surprised at how poor Arnel sounded on the Journey songs. I'm not sure what's going on but he sounded very strained. I'm not sure if the mic wasn't hot enough causing him to over sing or what but it was ugly.

Arnel, the next time you're in Nashville, go spend a day with Brett Manning. The dude knows how the voice works and can help you hit the notes without pulling up chest voice to the point it kills you. http://www.brettmanningstudios.com/coaches The dude is good and can help you.

I thought Gary carried the day on the last three songs of the show. He covered the songs well and sang in key for his parts. It looked like he was struggling to find where he and Arnel fit when they both tried to harmonize. I felt like Gary was backing off to give Arnel room due to his lack of confidence.

Arnel was not good. He was off pitch on songs that sounded detuned (haven't checked) and overall struggled in my opinion. I've not been a fan for a while and this confirms my thoughts. The dude is not that good. Go beg Perry to come back (detuned) or get Chalfant, Hugo, Jeremey or Jason and give the music what it deserves for fucks sake.

The thing that was really obvious to me was that Arnel did no harmonizing... that they didn't have much in the way of rehearsal was obvious too..

Arnel sucks and he's been over singing the music since day 1. The man has a great voice when he's singing in his normal range, but when he tries to get into Perry's upper range he strains and over sings the songs and it kills the song. He even does it with their new matierial and it kills those songs. That was one thing I enjoyed about Augeri's time with the band, he knew his range limits and tended to stay within those bounds (especially on studio tracks). After Tapegate fuck these guys I enjoy watching their ship fucking slowly sink.

Nothing sucks...nothing is sinking. The ship is sailing just fine. Fuck you!

[Don]

So, would that make Pineda the islander cabin boy?
Go get my rum, you little scaliwag!

[steveo777]

So, would that make Pineda the islander cabin boy?
Go get my rum, you little scaliwag!

[kmjrr]

They don't need SP any more than they need this house of critics. They'll be fine. It was cross roads folks. Everyone around here predicted Journey's death after Super Bowl 2009. It didn't happen.

I'm looking forward to this year's tour.

How dare you go against the grain. Their end-of-Journey predictions have been as accurate as the end-of-the-world predictions. It must suck to be so negative. I see the flaws, but I saw two bands having a good time and sounding pretty good to me, and I'm so happy that my band is still around not only playing concerts but creating new music every few years.

My son and I are looking forward to a great show tonight in Sioux City, flaws and all.

[Gideon]

After Tapegate fuck these guys I enjoy watching their ship fucking slowly sink.

It always amazes me to see how much control the band and its members exercise over certain posters. Schon and Cain, multimillionaires and legendary musicians, have already won the war.

[slucero]

I just watched it again. It's fantastic. Most of the people I work with loved it. About the only complaint was about Arnel's pants.

Time to get your hearing checked.

I love Journey, but what I heard was a train wreck from the get go. AP actually did better on the RF stuff than he did on the Journey songs.

In my opinion Journey needs to finish up this year with AP and announce that they are going to try and get SP back for few select dates in 2014 and call it a career. Of course SP may tell them to pound pavement but they need to give it a try.

Rich the Pavement Guy

They don't need SP any more than they need this house of critics. They'll be fine. It was cross roads folks. Everyone around here predicted Journey's death after Super Bowl 2009. It didn't happen.

I'm looking forward to this year's tour.

No.. it was a gig.. and as the saying goes.. they're only as good as their last one..

You give them a pass because they were nationally televised?... usually the expectations go up when that occurs..

What you are experiencing is called myopia.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Much like Arnel on the Ellen show, I thought he was solid, if not his usual spectacular self. Gary is great at what he does, but most of these Journey songs are just out of his league. He marginally pulls it off. Cain, as usual, looked like he was having as much fun as an appendicitis patient. Mix was muddy. Neal's solos were barely audible. All in all, this special did not make the case for why the band soldiers forward in the post-Perry era. Deen kept the beat and hammered away mercilessly. Kinda inappropriate given the genre, but hey, at least he made an impression. I don't even care about Arnel singing slightly lower. I just thought musically, they had nothing to prove and did not bring their A-game. Like the last few shows I've been to, the band is very low energy. Would this CMT Crossroads convince any non-fans to check the guys out? Probably not. Entertaining to watch, but far below the standards set in their heyday.

As an aside...the omission of AWYWI was striking. "After All These Years" also should've been played. One of their few (if only) post-Perry hits, plus it already sounds kinda country.

[Eric]

How dare you go against the grain. Their end-of-Journey predictions have been as accurate as the end-of-the-world predictions. It must suck to be so negative. I see the flaws, but I saw two bands having a good time and sounding pretty good to me, and I'm so happy that my band is still around not only playing concerts but creating new music every few years.

My son and I are looking forward to a great show tonight in Sioux City, flaws and all.

Every time someone says they are done they seem to just get bigger....

[slucero]

How dare you go against the grain. Their end-of-Journey predictions have been as accurate as the end-of-the-world predictions. It must suck to be so negative. I see the flaws, but I saw two bands having a good time and sounding pretty good to me, and I'm so happy that my band is still around not only playing concerts but creating new music every few years.

My son and I are looking forward to a great show tonight in Sioux City, flaws and all.

Every time someone says they are done they seem to just get bigger....

Definition of SEEM

1: to appear to the observation or understanding

2: to give the impression of being



its just an illusion...

[Infinity Vocalist 2010]

Well at least Journey has a plethora of guys that can sing the songs if Arnel has to throw it in. Another alternative would be to have a "Journey Extravaganza" like Queen. Society will cling to DSB. For the forseeable future, someone, be it Journey or an officially sanctioned cover band, will have to take the national stage.

[annie89509]

CMT put the video back up...

http://www.cmt.com/videos/cmt-crossroad ... sode.jhtml

Too preoccupied with following the run-up of my 9ers at the SB, so didn't seek their performance out on TV. Just now watched this show.

Honestly, I didn't think it was that bad (much better than their SB gig several years back). The live crowd sure seemed to enjoy themselves. I think it's too easy to be armchair critics.

AP strained here and there...but was trying his best...a little overwhelming for him, I think..."playing with the Big Boys" as he would say (lol)... looks good in his new 'do.