Lamest Jonathan Cain moment

by **heardonthestreet** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:01 pm

You Journeygoons can spout recriminations against Perry until the cows come home and it won't make a bit of difference. You just don't know what might have been if Jon hadn't made that fatal phone call. You can suppose and you can predict but the bottom line is that the phone call crossed the rubicon. We know what has happened but we'll never know what might have been.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:09 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:You Journeygoons can spout recriminations against Perry until the cows come home and it won't make a bit of difference.

I'm not trying to make a difference.
Even when Perry himself admits to wrongdoing (as he did in BTM) you go into complete denial-mode.
How can I expect to speak honestly with you when you won't even accept the truth from the man himself?

heardonthestreet wrote:You just don't know what might have been if Jon hadn't made that fatal phone call.

A new Journey was underway to feature Kevin C. and Gregg Rolie back in the fold. Kevin has discussed it repeatedly. Ross mentioned it on the radio once, too.

heardonthestreet wrote:You can suppose and you can predict but the bottom line is that the phone call crossed the rubicon.

I think we all can speak with a high degree of certainty that Steve Perry would have never stepped foot on stage with Journey. Look at his track record of touring.

We know what has happened but we'll never know what might have been.

I don't have to wonder what happened.
Journey returned to the stage, made a few good records and played some shows.
You are the one looking up to the sky each night, shouting at an uncaring God,
"WHY? Why, God, oh why, did they have to kick Stephen out?!?!?"

by **sexxymofo** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:30 pm

Big J wrote:My choice? Raised on Radio tour, strap-on keyboard

Discuss.

Here ya go, do ENJOY

by **Lula** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:43 pm

Oh boy! What a dork.

Here is a guy who might have been a victim of the dress code of the 80's, but who wasn't?

This "dork," brought an entirely new element of songwriting to the band. So much in fact, that Perry wanted and was denied the song Faithfully, of which the "dork" wrote solely.

by **heardonthestreet** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:58 pm

But Lula! Perry sang it and the rest is history. He also made Open Arms a hit for Cain.
Where is all the great Cain material since the band turned their collective backs on Perry?

by **ohsherrie** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:00 pm

I won't even begin to try to itemize all of Deano's and TNC's individual responces to my remarks. I'll just try to summarize.

First of all, I thought it was gracious of him that he didn't badmouth anyone. He just told it like it was from his point of view. He didn't display any attitude, he just talked about what he felt. The other guys, even though they didn't overtly say much that was negative about him, they said a lot with the way they presented what the said.

Secondly, how do we know when the interviewer presented the other guys with what Steve said about "not feeling like part of the band"? We don't know when any of them were interviewed. They may have talked to Steve about that before they talked to them. They could have used that comment to try and make a tabloid moment out of it.

I don't doubt that Jon felt bad about Kenny, I just don't think he was sincere about his reaction on the show. I think he was milking it.

Yeah, Neal said a few good things about Steve, but overall I felt that there was resentment in what he said.

You're right Monker, this is too old to be discussing.

by **heardonthestreet** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:04 pm

Perry's voice makes Faithfully the hit that it is and that is not an opinion. It's a fact!

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:06 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:Perry's voice makes Faithfully the hit that it is and that is not an opinion. It's a fact!

Without the music and words, Perry's voice isn't worth a shit.

So much for new improved nicer deano.

Fuck You HOTS. You stupid bitches are a fucking disgrace.

by **heardonthestreet** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:10 pm

Without Perry's voice, Journey's music isn't worth a shit. Whatcha get for having low expectations. :roll:

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:13 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:Without Perry's voice, Journey's music isn't worth a shit. Whatcha get for having low expectations.

Without Journey's music, Perry isn't shit each either. Look at the phenominal sales of Unreleased +5 ....Blazed a trail to nowhere.

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:17 pm

Unreleased + 5 =

I hate you HOTS.

In the words of you and your sisters, err, herd, go back to the Perry Board.

You got your ass kicked, again.

by **heardonthestreet** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:23 pm

Say "Good Night," Gracie! :lol:

by **DreamAfterDream** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:25 pm

I'm glad I'm not the only who's suspicious of Cain's breakdown on BTM. It was a very sad segment of the program, like Deano said especially when they showed that poor kid's face with "Only The Young" playing. Cain...I dunno....just seems to turn the tears on without warning.

By far the saddest reaction I ever saw on BTM was Vince Neil talking about his daughter dying, and I don't think he shed a tear, or if so it wasn't shown. Just the sound of his voice quivering gets me every time. Cain on the other hand, I feel bad for doubting him, but...

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:02 am

DreamAfterDream wrote:I'm glad I'm not the only who's suspicious of Cain's breakdown on BTM. It was a very sad segment of the program, like Deano said especially when they showed that poor kid's face with "Only The Young" playing. Cain...I dunno....just seems to turn the tears on without warning.

By far the saddest reaction I ever saw on BTM was Vince Neil talking about his daughter dying, and I don't think he shed a tear, or if so it wasn't shown. Just the sound of his voice quivering gets me every time. Cain on the other hand, I feel bad for doubting him, but...

DIng Ding Ding!!! Vince was so matter of fact about it and instead of reducing to a blubbering ruin he toughed it out but that was friggin' sad. You can see him really struggling and fogging up but keeping it together. And you can hear the pain in his comments; wasn't feeling sorry for HIMself (not that Jon was, mind you) but for his daughter. As far as an impact moment that had it all over the Journey one. Because it seemed like all involved were expecting the Cain waterworks where as Neil's seemed to sneak up a lot more.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:03 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Without Perry's voice, Journey's music isn't worth a shit.

If anyone ever questions why we give the Loons such a hard time, please refer back to this ludicrous comment.

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:17 am

PROPERRY wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:I think that his lowest point was when he phoned Perry and gave him an ultimatum.

I totally agree with you, HOTS!

Lori

Boys, boys, boys. Steve Perry put the band the untenable situation of an indefinate hiatus from 1987-1995 by never officially quitting the band but refusing to record and tour.
It appeared very much as though the proverbial handwriting was on the wall again in 1997 and the band basically invoked the "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on us" clause. In all likelihood absent the ultimatum from the committed memebers of Journey, we'd STILL be awaiting the big Trial By Fire tour, Perry sending out cryptic messages like "I'm starting to think about singing all the time" just to keep that ultimatum at bay.
No thanks. 2 1/2 records, a dvd and shitload of live dates later I'm happy where this band IS.

by **heardonthestreet** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:54 am

2 1/2 records, a dvd and shitload of live dates later I'm happy where this band IS./quote

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You just have lower expectations, Joe and it's obvious that you are easily amused. :wink:

by **Rockindeano** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:07 am

HOTS,

I am willing to bet your vaginal discharge is so bad, so smelly, and so toxic, that you must buy new pants weekly. I can see the holes burning through the crotch in your jeans. Must be a bitch to have that smoldering, smoking, sulfuric smell follow you around daily. Christ what do your fellow IHOP employees say?

Shit, I can smell it from here.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:14 am

heardonthestreet wrote:2 1/2 records, a dvd and shitload of live dates later I'm happy where this band IS./quote

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You just have lower expectations, Joe and it's obvious that you are easily amused.

HE'S easily amused? You Loons get excited about 8 year old interviews and BG vox on a lite rock album! The current Journey has provided WAAAY more to its fans than stinkin' Perry has since 1998.

by **ohsherrie** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:32 am

How, or maybe I should ask why, in the hell did a thread about Jon's faux pas turn into a Perry/Perry fans bash fest? :roll:

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:35 am

ohsherrie wrote:How, or maybe I should ask why, in the hell did a thread about Jon's faux pas turn into a Perry/Perry fans bash fest?

Just go backward through the posts and you will see HOTS instigating us.

by **heardonthestreet** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:25 am

All I gave was my opinion that Cain's most stupid moment was calling Perry with an ultimatum and you goons went ballistic. Scroll past if you don't like my opinion.

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:30 am

heardonthestreet wrote:All I gave was my opinion that Cain's most stupid moment was calling Perry with an ultimatum and you goons went ballistic. Scroll past if you don't like my opinion.

ballistic

this is the epitome of "taking the piss."

When are you going to fix that avatar :?:

by **heardonthestreet** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:43 am

Actually, it was Noble who hijacked this thread on page 3.

Always picking on me. :cry:

Sob!

That is my avatar, Joe. I like it. It's very identifiable. First thing it pops up, you know it's me I like the colors.

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:01 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Actually, it was Noble who hijacked this thread on page 3.

Always picking on me. Sob!

That is my avatar, Joe. I like it. It's very identifiable. First thing it pops up, you know it's me I like the colors.

No. Your avatar is the dalmation. All that thing that looks like a cancelled check proves is you're a computer illiterate boob.
It IS taking the piss to say I went ballistic over your sour grapes post about the ultimatum. I rationalized that move perfectly based on the voice's past ignorance of others in the band.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:03 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Actually, it was Noble who hijacked this thread on page 3.

Always picking on me. Sob!

So responding to what you write is now tantamount to uninstigatively attacking you? :roll:

There was nothing remotely indecorous in what I wrote to you.
If there was, please post my comments and prove it.

Speaking of which, I am still waiting for you to refute what I wrote.
Typical hit n'run bullshit.

by **heardonthestreet** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:17 am

No, Noble! I posted that Nig was picking on me. I think that you were in a debate with OSherrie. What did you post that you wanted me to answer? What page is it on. :?:

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:24 am

heardonthestreet wrote:No, Noble! I posted that Nig was picking on me. I think that you were in a debate with OSherrie. What did you post that you wanted me to answer? What page is it on.

4, I believe.

by **heardonthestreet** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:10 am

4 you believe?
Be specific, Noble. What do you want to know?

by **sexxymofo** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:27 am

Lame, more Lame & did I mention Lame

Here is Cain or Agueri?

he made it onto Keyboard Mag :oops:

And lets not forget everyones favorite

MR

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