A BAD REVIEW AT BRISTOW 7/7/06

[cetera]

Too bad Terry Kath kicked off so soon in life. The guy could play.

That he could.... even Hendrix said he was better than him! Severely underrated and sorely missed....

[Argus]

Too bad Terry Kath kicked off so soon in life. The guy could play.

That he could.... even Hendrix said he was better than him! Severely underrated and sorely missed....

Sad sad case of gone too soon. Great chops and a great voice.

[Classic Rock]

2) Cetera - Chicago without Cetera is so much better it aint even funny. I've heard nobody oversinging at Chicago shows.

Actually I didn't mention Peter Cetera. But now you bring it up - you're talking out of your ass..... what was once a great jazz/rock band is now a slick oldies act. And btw, I can say that because I still consider myself a fan.

You can't SERIOUSLY tell me that Bill Champlin doesn't oversing?!?
He's a supreme talent, but he overdoes it live.....

I just saw Chicago a couple of weeks ago in Houston, I would not say Billy Champlin oversings but he is not true to Kath's vocals that we are used to hearing especially in "Make Me Smile". And the songs they sang from Chicago XXX were excellent, I would not call them a "Slick Oldies Act".

[styxman]

Did they play Caroline at Houston? If so how did it go down?

[Classic Rock]

Did they play Caroline at Houston? If so how did it go down?

No they played the "Feel" that one was expected because it is the latest single and they played "Love Will Come Back". Those songs sounded much better than I thought they would and the crowd seemed to get into them also, at least where I was sitting. I wish they would have played "90 Degrees and Freezing" though.

[styxman]

Shame that, as it's a big song, would have gone down well. 90 D would also of got the crowd going....soppy stuff first though I guess!!

[Eric]

90 degrees and freezing was made for LIVE!

[styxman]

Absolutely..it'll be introduced somewhere along the way - all goes back to having to play all the old stuff and not getting a chance to fit in the new.

[Classic Rock]

90 degrees and freezing was made for LIVE!

I agree, I wouldn't mind if they sacrificed an oldie to play that song, IMO that song is the closet to the old glory days that Chicago has come in awhlie.

[Abitaman]

I liked the first two songs on the new cd the best FEEL and KING OF WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN-ERIC

[rcavictor64]

Wow! Was I at a different show than these folks or were they highly intoxicated. Soto was oversinging everything and his range was extremely limited! The highs are not possible for him! He was trying to emulate Perry, not a chance. He gave it a valliant effort I will say, but man I was cringing and even my 11 year old son was saying man Dad that sounds bad! I was extremely disappointed but SOTO did put off trmenedous energy.

If you look at the pics, I think you will see the band is actually looking at SOTO like damn man did I just hear that! Do they look happy and approving to you? I did not see one positive sign of body language or a gesture of approval for Soto from the others. I didn't have any to give either. The music was good but I was about to hurl from the vocals! I will also comment that themixer/sound people "turned down the volume on vocals after like 2 songs". I also noticed they added background fade as well, an almost full elimnation of any "tweeter" in the vocals!

Elliott & Leppard should have compensated with more songs. All I can say is there will be some pissed of fans in the next few weeks! If I had tix, I would list them on EBAY NOW! Sell them to an unsuspecting fan who knows nothing of this controversy!

Get Perry back and have a monster tour! After all to have done what they have and to continue on this tour proves to me they are now only about the money! They are "fracturing" the JOurney name as Steve Perry described it when asking them not contiue on under the "Journey" name initially! Maybe I need to take up drinking, it is obvious that must have been the catalyst to a good review!

Thanks to the beautiful young blonde who made the show for my son & I! Without her, it would have been a bust! She can share my space & blanket! Anytime that she wants to....

Sorry to disagree but the consensus around me, at least from those not bombed out of their minds was a distinct and certain 2 thumbs down!

Ouch.

I'm willing to bet the same type of post was made after Augeri's first concert with Journey in 1998. You just can't please a certain sect of people.

We have come to expect, dare I say love a certain sound. Can't blame us for that

Actually, I was referring to the fact that for some people (ie: Perry-onlies), it doesn't matter who is singing. They'll never hit the high notes good enough and the songs will never sound good enough.

I agree. I saw Perry sing with the Champion Chicago White socks (just funnin) But he sounds bad. He can't even hit his own notes anymore. So quiet Perry lovers.

[rcavictor64]

Wow! Was I at a different show than these folks or were they highly intoxicated. Soto was oversinging everything and his range was extremely limited! The highs are not possible for him! He was trying to emulate Perry, not a chance. He gave it a valliant effort I will say, but man I was cringing and even my 11 year old son was saying man Dad that sounds bad! I was extremely disappointed but SOTO did put off trmenedous energy.

If you look at the pics, I think you will see the band is actually looking at SOTO like damn man did I just hear that! Do they look happy and approving to you? I did not see one positive sign of body language or a gesture of approval for Soto from the others. I didn't have any to give either. The music was good but I was about to hurl from the vocals! I will also comment that themixer/sound people "turned down the volume on vocals after like 2 songs". I also noticed they added background fade as well, an almost full elimnation of any "tweeter" in the vocals!

Elliott & Leppard should have compensated with more songs. All I can say is there will be some pissed of fans in the next few weeks! If I had tix, I would list them on EBAY NOW! Sell them to an unsuspecting fan who knows nothing of this controversy!

Get Perry back and have a monster tour! After all to have done what they have and to continue on this tour proves to me they are now only about the money! They are "fracturing" the JOurney name as Steve Perry described it when asking them not contiue on under the "Journey" name initially! Maybe I need to take up drinking, it is obvious that must have been the catalyst to a good review!

Thanks to the beautiful young blonde who made the show for my son & I! Without her, it would have been a bust! She can share my space & blanket! Anytime that she wants to....

Sorry to disagree but the consensus around me, at least from those not bombed out of their minds was a distinct and certain 2 thumbs down!

Ouch.

I'm willing to bet the same type of post was made after Augeri's first concert with Journey in 1998. You just can't please a certain sect of people.

We have come to expect, dare I say love a certain sound. Can't blame us for that

Actually, I was referring to the fact that for some people (ie: Perry-onlies), it doesn't matter who is singing. They'll never hit the high notes good enough and the songs will never sound good enough.

I agree. I saw Perry sing with the champion Chicago baseball team. (just funnin) But he sounds bad. He can't even hit his own notes anymore. So quiet Perry lovers.

[siobhan222]

Soto was oversinging everything and his range was extremely limited! The highs are not possible for him! He was trying to emulate Perry, not a chance. He gave it a valliant effort I will say, but man I was cringing and even my 11 year old son was saying man Dad that sounds bad! I was extremely disappointed but SOTO did put off trmenedous energy.

I saw a different show than you but I didn't think JSS was trying to emulate SP at all. I thought he was trying to do it his own way -- and that was a way I personally didn't care for. I thought he couldn't hit the high notes and couldn't hold notes long enough at all. I was hoarse the next day from singing along and holding the notes -- which is so funny and stupid, I shouldn't even admit it.

Do they look happy and approving to you? I did not see one positive sign of body language or a gesture of approval for Soto from the others.

At the WPB show, I didn't feel any positive energy between the band members at all. They weren't interacting with each other and having fun like I'm used to seeing. And Jon just seemed bummed out -- not his usual self -- at least the times I've seen him before (about 10 times in the last 5 years).

Sorry to disagree but the consensus around me, at least from those not bombed out of their minds was a distinct and certain 2 thumbs down!

I have seen a lot of people here rave about JSS with Journey. But I didn't get that feeling from the people around me at the show either or those I talked to in the beer line or the bathroom. I talked to a good few people and only one of them was happy with the lineup but he said he was really there for Def Leppard and didn't care who Journey had as a lead singer.

Like you, I just feel very disappointed ... and I feel cheated because I didn't know going in that it wasn't going to be SA. One woman in the bathroom asked me how come I hadn't heard it on the radio. I just don't listen to the radio much these days. Not much on there I like.

Well thanks for the review.

[Liz22562]

I have the radio playing all day long while I'm at work and it is usually on the station that hosted the Tampa show. They never mentioned a thing about Steve Augeri not performing that night (but then I already knew he wasn't).

[EightyRock]

Most casual fans who attend concerts wouldn't know the name Steve Augeri, anyway, so I don't know why they'd even bother to announce anything on the radio. Most people are just going either for something to do or they are casual fans that know the hits and want to hear them. They only thing they reallly want is someone who doesn't suck to lead the band so they can enjoy their evening out.
Only die hard Journey fans care about who is singing and I'll guarantee you there are still more Steve Perry fans in existence than ones who know or care anything about Augeri. Soto can front that band in a very respectable way, so I'm sure no casual fan will be disappointed. He has a great voice and the best part is you can hear him over Neal's loud amps.

[siobhan222]

Most casual fans who attend concerts wouldn't know the name Steve Augeri, anyway, so I don't know why they'd even bother to announce anything on the radio. Most people are just going either for something to do or they are casual fans that know the hits and want to hear them. They only thing they reallly want is someone who doesn't suck to lead the band so they can enjoy their evening out.
Only die hard Journey fans care about who is singing and I'll guarantee you there are still more Steve Perry fans in existence than ones who know or care anything about Augeri. Soto can front that band in a very respectable way, so I'm sure no casual fan will be disappointed. He has a great voice and the best part is you can hear him over Neal's loud amps.

There are a lot of people I've run into at concerts who don't know that Steve Perry isn't with Journey anymore. A lot of them mistook Steve Augeri for Steve Perry, actually. Others were quite pleased with Steve Augeri as a replacement. There are many people who go to shows and don't know anything other than the Journey classics. But from my take at the WPB show, there were a lot of people around me, in the beer line, and in the ladies room, and according to my husband, in the men's room too, grumbling about Jeff Scott Soto and not enjoying him. And many of them were casual fans so I think you're wrong saying that no casual fan will be disappointed. And I can tell you that Jeff was not able to hit a LOT of the high notes and he wasn't able to hold notes and you couldn't hear him very well over Neal's loud amps at all -- although I wondered if that was deliberate. I was very glad when he turned LTS over to Deen at the end because Deen could hit the notes and Deen's voice could be heard very well -- actually the other 2 songs Deen did, I could hear his voice clearly too. Have you been to a Journey show with JSS yet? If not, it might be different than you're expecting.

[daltonsdad]

Most casual fans who attend concerts wouldn't know the name Steve Augeri, anyway, so I don't know why they'd even bother to announce anything on the radio. Most people are just going either for something to do or they are casual fans that know the hits and want to hear them. They only thing they reallly want is someone who doesn't suck to lead the band so they can enjoy their evening out.
Only die hard Journey fans care about who is singing and I'll guarantee you there are still more Steve Perry fans in existence than ones who know or care anything about Augeri. Soto can front that band in a very respectable way, so I'm sure no casual fan will be disappointed. He has a great voice and the best part is you can hear him over Neal's loud amps.

There are a lot of people I've run into at concerts who don't know that Steve Perry isn't with Journey anymore. A lot of them mistook Steve Augeri for Steve Perry, actually. Others were quite pleased with Steve Augeri as a replacement. There are many people who go to shows and don't know anything other than the Journey classics. But from my take at the WPB show, there were a lot of people around me, in the beer line, and in the ladies room, and according to my husband, in the men's room too, grumbling about Jeff Scott Soto and not enjoying him. And many of them were casual fans so I think you're wrong saying that no casual fan will be disappointed. And I can tell you that Jeff was not able to hit a LOT of the high notes and he wasn't able to hold notes and you couldn't hear him very well over Neal's loud amps at all -- although I wondered if that was deliberate. I was very glad when he turned LTS over to Deen at the end because Deen could hit the notes and Deen's voice could be heard very well -- actually the other 2 songs Deen did, I could hear his voice clearly too. Have you been to a Journey show with JSS yet? If not, it might be different than you're expecting.

The post is exactly what I was saying in my honest review posted on Bristow. I liked SP & SA, I didn't like the show with JSS. I too ran into fans who were clueless Perry ever left, and I found this out by their commenting on how disppaointig the vocals were. I too stated they "turned Soto down" after 2 songs, actually in the middle of the second one. They brought the music to the forefront of the Mix. If you look at pictures taken of the first night, the only one smiling is Soto. I am telling you Cain & Ross V were looking at him like they too were cringing from the sabatoge.

My whole intent on posting was to keep people from having huge expectations and from being overly excited, as I was, to then ultimately disappointed.

I hope the majority of folks are casual listeners un only go for the hits and the experioence. I am a diehard who has every album & CD and knows even the deepest cuts on every release. I have been onto Journey since I heard them in a record store waaaayyyyyy before their rise. The same with Leppard. The deep cuts don't bring in the crowds I guess! Joe if you read this, bust out Lady Strange next tour. The bubble gum era kills the original Def fans! lol!