MY Opinion

[conversationpc]

Actually, the top 40 market in most countries is corrupt and completely open to manipulation by the major labels....why do you think so much shit is hurled at the general public and why none of them get to hear about "real music" so much.

Very sad. Only enlightened individuals that search out the music they love (like on the net etc) really find anything special.

I read an interview with an industry insider not long ago where this kind of thing was discussed. It was very eye opening. Actually, that interview may have been right here on melodicrock.com, now that I think of it.

[Matthew]

Actually, the top 40 market in most countries is corrupt and completely open to manipulation by the major labels....why do you think so much shit is hurled at the general public and why none of them get to hear about "real music" so much.

Very sad. Only enlightened individuals that search out the music they love (like on the net etc) really find anything special.

Isn't that because the major labels sign up the shit in the first place? I'd say that the power the sales, marketing and finance departments have over A+R departments is the main reason why we don't hear enough "real music". In the 60s, 70s and 80s A+R departments had much more freedom than they do now. So I'm not sure the unreliability of the charts is the reason why the music scene seems so sterile.

All I'm saying is that we can't completely negate the charts as a barometer of popularity. The charts do still roughtly reflect the buying patterns of the mass market.

Take Def Leppard's recent album which got to Number 14. Was that position completely bogus? Or did it indicate that the band's recording career is still in healthy shape commercially?

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Fyre - any chance of you posting a recording of you singing like Perry in the karaoke thread?

Absolutely no chance. I no longer have any recording or musical equipment. Sold my guitar to help pay the rent a couple years ago.

To clarify: I sing like myself. The only similarities between me and SP is that I can control my falsetto so that it sounds like true and also I have inflections a la Sam Cooke.

Even if I could share something my voice isn't the point.

The point is to give credit where credit is due. I don't think SA has EVER been given credit based on HIS MERITS. He's constantly being compared with SP in every way shape and form. Considering the differences in eras I don't see that this is fair and just.

I stand by my football analogy. It's exactly the same. Go ahead. Visit Cleveland and go to any sports club - heck stand in line at a grocery store and ask the nearest person: "Who's the greatest running back ever?" The majority of answers will be "Jim Brown." Go to Chicago and they'll say, "Walter Payton." Go to Detroit and they'll say, "Barry Sanders." Go to Dallas and they'll say, "Emmett Smith."

Ask a JOURNEY fan who the greatest RnR singer is and they'll say, "Steve Perry."

All of these answers are based on subjectivism. Nothing wrong with that but don't be so blind in devotion that you begin making unfair comparisons.

Great story about Barry Sanders. I read in an interview that his Dad was very hard on him. He'd say, "You're good but you're no Jim Brown."

So Barry crushes Jim Brown's record despite being on a CRAP team as opposed to JB being on a VERY successful and revolutionary team. Payton's record is EASILY within Sanders' grasp BUT he up and retires out of the blue. He loses millions that he had to return for breaking his contract. I don't think I've ever heard his explanation however I've often wondered if it was like this: he broke JB's record and became "worthy" but respected Payton so much that he left his alone.

Anyway, I just don't think comparing anyone to anyone else leads to anything positive. SA has had to endure "You're good but you're no SP." That's entirely unfair to him AND SP.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

I wasn't comparing Augeri's "vocal help" to Perry's back up. But Augeri has been slammed for backup vocals-ERIC

No; that would be LEAD Vocals.

SP has said in interviews that he, Neal, Ross, Jon, and Smitty would sometimes stand in a circle around the mic and record big harmony vocals for use later on @ that night's concert.

OK; fine.

But when you start to employ that to a guy who is singing LEAD.....

...big no-no.

So it's OK to use technology for backing but not for leading?

I just don't get this. So if your husband stole 2 dollars from your pocket you would be OK with that - just don't steal 200...?

Do you or ANYONE here know exactly why the tapes were used (if at all)?

I doubt it. All we know is that SA had been sick. We know nothing else. NOBODY knows the REAL motivation behind it. If they did they're not saying anything. Probably for GOOD reason.

Personally, I don't care. It's none of my business. I'm sure that they had GOOD reasons and trust that they meant no harm. Certain people will suggest that they've broken some commandment worthy of stoning!

[Matthew]

Absolutely no chance. I no longer have any recording or musical equipment. Sold my guitar to help pay the rent a couple years ago.

That's a shame, Fyre. I was hoping you could fill in until the Voice made a comeback.

also I have inflections a la Sam Cooke.

You don't say?

The point is to give credit where credit is due. I don't think SA has EVER been given credit based on HIS MERITS. He's constantly being compared with SP in every way shape and form. Considering the differences in eras I don't see that this is fair and just.

You've ignored my previous point that Augeri spent most of his time singing songs from the Perry era. So comparisons are inevitable.

I stand by my football analogy. It's exactly the same. Go ahead. Visit Cleveland and go to any sports club - heck stand in line at a grocery store and ask the nearest person: "Who's the greatest running back ever?" The majority of answers will be "Jim Brown." Go to Chicago and they'll say, "Walter Payton." Go to Detroit and they'll say, "Barry Sanders." Go to Dallas and they'll say, "Emmett Smith."

Ask a JOURNEY fan who the greatest RnR singer is and they'll say, "Steve Perry."

Execept in your analogy the sports fans chose different players whereas Journey fans chose one singer.

Great story about Barry Sanders. I read in an interview that his Dad was very hard on him. He'd say, "You're good but you're no Jim Brown."

I find American sport totally baffling. You're losing me here....

SA has had to endure "You're good but you're no SP." That's entirely unfair to him AND SP.

I don't see why it's unfair to SP. But when Augeri achieves something on the back of his own material - with his own band - he might get the respect he deserves. I doubt anyone with be comparing him unfairly to SP when the new Tall Stories CD comes out.

[Enigma869]

Fyre - any chance of you posting a recording of you singing like Perry in the karaoke thread?

Absolutely no chance. I no longer have any recording or musical equipment. Sold my guitar to help pay the rent a couple years ago.

To clarify: I sing like myself. The only similarities between me and SP is that I can control my falsetto so that it sounds like true and also I have inflections a la Sam Cooke.

Even if I could share something my voice isn't the point.

The point is to give credit where credit is due. I don't think SA has EVER been given credit based on HIS MERITS. He's constantly being compared with SP in every way shape and form. Considering the differences in eras I don't see that this is fair and just.

I stand by my football analogy. It's exactly the same. Go ahead. Visit Cleveland and go to any sports club - heck stand in line at a grocery store and ask the nearest person: "Who's the greatest running back ever?" The majority of answers will be "Jim Brown." Go to Chicago and they'll say, "Walter Payton." Go to Detroit and they'll say, "Barry Sanders." Go to Dallas and they'll say, "Emmett Smith."

Ask a JOURNEY fan who the greatest RnR singer is and they'll say, "Steve Perry."

All of these answers are based on subjectivism. Nothing wrong with that but don't be so blind in devotion that you begin making unfair comparisons.

Great story about Barry Sanders. I read in an interview that his Dad was very hard on him. He'd say, "You're good but you're no Jim Brown."

So Barry crushes Jim Brown's record despite being on a CRAP team as opposed to JB being on a VERY successful and revolutionary team. Payton's record is EASILY within Sanders' grasp BUT he up and retires out of the blue. He loses millions that he had to return for breaking his contract. I don't think I've ever heard his explanation however I've often wondered if it was like this: he broke JB's record and became "worthy" but respected Payton so much that he left his alone.

Anyway, I just don't think comparing anyone to anyone else leads to anything positive. SA has had to endure "You're good but you're no SP." That's entirely unfair to him AND SP.

Hey Fyre...

This isn't a court...we don't have to be "fair"! As the title of this very thread suggests...It's all about opinions! People are ALWAYS going to have differing opinions, and you're not going to change that! That's the whole point of having a message forum on the internet...to listen to various opinions. This would be a VERY boring place if everyone had the same opinion. There is already a Journey board dedicated to everyone who has the same opinion...It's called Back Talk! Let's hope MR NEVER becomes that sanitized and boring!

In terms of "giving credit"...I'm not sure precisely what you're looking for here. The fact that some people (myself included) think Augeri is a good singer isn't a horrible thing. He isn't Perry, period! That isn't a knock on the guy...It's simply a fact! I think you're being completely naive and unrealistic to think ANY singer isn't going to be compared to Perry when he is in a band that Perry made famous, singing songs that Perry made famous (not to mention, writing or co-writing most of those songs!) That's just the way it is, and I'm quite sure both Augeri and Jeff Scott Soto are well aware of this fact.

In terms of your sports analogy...I think a better sports analogy would be to equate Perry with any QB of a football team. I know you like to go on and on about why Perry doesn't deserve so much credit and that he was only one fifth of the band. While this may be true...a QB is only one 53rd of a football team and gets all the credit for their success. If you don't believe me, look at the careers of Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, and Tom Brady! All three of those guys are given most of the credit for most of the success of their teams. It's just the way it is and the way it will always be. If Neal, Jonathan and Ross don't like it, they should have learned how to sing! I have always believed that Neal and Jonathan are brilliant musicians. That said, most fans connected with the music through the voice of Perry, and nothing you ever say to minimize or discredit Perry will ever change that fact for most Journey fans. Heck, even most Augeri fans only know this music because of Perry's voice making these songs famous!

John from Boston

[Matthew]

So it's OK to use technology for backing but not for leading?

I just don't get this. So if your husband stole 2 dollars from your pocket you would be OK with that - just don't steal 200...?

If my girlfriend stole two pounds from me I wouldn't really care. But 200? Yes, that would bother me.

Do you or ANYONE here know exactly why the tapes were used (if at all)?

I doubt it. All we know is that SA had been sick. We know nothing else. NOBODY knows the REAL motivation behind it. If they did they're not saying anything. Probably for GOOD reason.

It doesn't matter why. Serious rock bands should NEVER lip-sync. The reason was greed.

Personally, I don't care.

I don't believe that for a second.

It's none of my business.

Yes it is. You are a fan whose dollars support the band.

I'm sure that they had GOOD reasons and trust that they meant no harm. Certain people will suggest that they've broken some commandment worthy of stoning!

No - people just want Journey to play live music.

[Deb]

Actually, the top 40 market in most countries is corrupt and completely open to manipulation by the major labels....why do you think so much shit is hurled at the general public and why none of them get to hear about "real music" so much.

Very sad. Only enlightened individuals that search out the music they love (like on the net etc) really find anything special.

Very, very true! You don't even have to know how to sing or play an instrument to be in the top 40 nowadays......sad.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

...when Augeri achieves something on the back of his own material - with his own band - he'll get the respect he deserves. I doubt anyone with be comparing him unfairly to SP when the new Tall Stories CD comes out.

I love how you set up the impossible!

Define "something" because SA HAS achieved many things.

I don't believe SP had EVER achieved anything on the back of his own material with his own band. He QUIT the music business and went to muck chicken coops before JOURNEY called him. He QUIT because ZERO labels felt he was woirth signing "his" Alien Project band.

When he joined JOURNEY he joined a TEAM. His greatest song if you want to go by Billboard chart positions was Open Arms which was brought in by Cain. EVERYTHING he did with JOURNEY was a TEAM effort. You speak as though he was a one-man band with a bunch of schlumps doing nothing more than backing him up according to his direction!

Street Talk was successful for the simple fact that JOURNEY was successful.

If it weren't for JOURNEY we'd be buying "Perry Spicy Chicken Wings" for NFL games on Sunday and arguing who has the better sauce: Perry or Perdue...?

[Matthew]

Actually, the top 40 market in most countries is corrupt and completely open to manipulation by the major labels....why do you think so much shit is hurled at the general public and why none of them get to hear about "real music" so much.

Very sad. Only enlightened individuals that search out the music they love (like on the net etc) really find anything special.

Very, very true! You don't even have to know how to sing or play an instrument to be in the top 40 nowadays......sad.

Aren't we just being a bunch of old farts here? People were saying this in the 1980s too.

In fact they were even saying it before that...about the 'bubblegum' groups in the 60s...about disco in the 1970s...

And let's not forget either that AOR was one of the most reviled genres in rock. It was widely considered to be cynical music aimed at the charts and that its popularity was driven by market-research companies who controlled the radio-playlists.

The resentment about corporate-driven manipulation of the charts and the the way it stifled new music was so bad in 1981 that MTV was formed to provide an outlet for new music that had been rejected by radio because it had 'tested' so badly.

And at tha time the band who most benefited from the market-researched radio playlists and corporate muscle and manipulation was...Journey.

So the music industry has always been cynical and manipulative - and it has always done whatever it takes to ensure that their acts will connect with the mass-market. Sometimes these acts have talent, sometimes they don't. It's always been this way.

Isn't it just more honest to say that we don't really care about or understand the music scene now?

[Deb]

Isn't it just more honest to say that we don't really care about or understand the music scene now?

LOL, no I DO understand the music scene today........have a 16 year old daughter. I mean come on, compare the talents of one Mr. Steve Perry and one Ms. Britney Spears. At least Christine Aguilera can sing.

[Matthew]

When he joined JOURNEY he joined a TEAM.

Of course he did. Perry, Schon and Cain were a winning team. Augeri, Schon and Cain were not.

[Enigma869]

...when Augeri achieves something on the back of his own material - with his own band - he'll get the respect he deserves. I doubt anyone with be comparing him unfairly to SP when the new Tall Stories CD comes out.

I love how you set up the impossible!

Define "something" because SA HAS achieved many things.

I don't believe SP had EVER achieved anything on the back of his own material with his own band. He QUIT the music business and went to muck chicken coops before JOURNEY called him. He QUIT because ZERO labels felt he was woirth signing "his" Alien Project band.

When he joined JOURNEY he joined a TEAM. His greatest song if you want to go by Billboard chart positions was Open Arms which was brought in by Cain. EVERYTHING he did with JOURNEY was a TEAM effort. You speak as though he was a one-man band with a bunch of schlumps doing nothing more than backing him up according to his direction!

Street Talk was successful for the simple fact that JOURNEY was successful.

If it weren't for JOURNEY we'd be buying "Perry Spicy Chicken Wings" for NFL games on Sunday and arguing who has the better sauce: Perry or Perdue...?

You continue to prove what an ass you are by making such statements. You really have stones to be telling everyone how great Augeri is/was and then telling us how much of a nothing Perry is/was. By the way, if Street Talk was successful because of Journey, please do explain why none of the other members of Journey had successful solo projects on the back of Journey's success, in spite of trying like hell to get solo work out there? Also, for what it's worth...Open Arms sucked and still does, so who cares if Cain brought it to the band! Now, if you want to give Cain the credit for writing Faithfully entirely on his own, with no help from anyone....I won't argue that point!

John from Boston

[Johnny Mohawk]

It should be pointed out that while Perry recently (upon the release of the 1981 Houston DVD) mentioned that Journey went in and recorded some extra backing vocals. He was referring to that show only. They added extra backing vocals for the MTV airing of that particular concert.

He did NOT infer that Journey had ever used recorded vocals for their live shows, only for that re-broadcast.

[Matthew]

Isn't it just more honest to say that we don't really care about or understand the music scene now?

LOL, no I DO understand the music scene today........have a 16 year old daughter. I mean come on, compare the talents of one Mr. Steve Perry and one Ms. Britney Spears. At least Christine Aguilera can sing.

Exactly Deb...Christina Aguilera is a talented singer who has been supported by the modern music industry. Her voice is far superior to, say, Debbie Gibson or Tiffany - who were a success back in the so-called golden age of quality music.

Britney is adorable but no...she isn't a major talent. But is she any better or worse than the Osmonds? Or the New Seasons? Or the Brotherhood of Man?

We can go back to the beginning of popular music and look at the charts from each year and be amazed at how much rubbish there has always been.

[Deb]

Isn't it just more honest to say that we don't really care about or understand the music scene now?

LOL, no I DO understand the music scene today........have a 16 year old daughter. I mean come on, compare the talents of one Mr. Steve Perry and one Ms. Britney Spears. At least Christine Aguilera can sing.

Exactly Deb...Christina Aguilera is a talented singer who has been supported by the modern music industry. Her voice is far superior to, say, Debbie Gibson or Tiffany - who were a success back in the so-called golden age of quality music.

Britney is adorable but no...she isn't a major talent. But is she any better or worse than the Osmonds? Or the New Seasons? Or the Brotherhood of Man?

We can go back to the beginning of popular music and look at the charts from each year and be amazed at how much rubbish there has always been.

Ok, good points, I'll give ya that. But I was thinking more along the lines of the Rock Bands from back then, like Queen, Journey, Styx, etc..........usually had great vocalists and could play their instruments well (and most times can play more than just one instrument). LOL, had this argument with my daughter too.......nevermind the "so called singing", but would any of these hiphop/rap artists/bands even know what to do with a guitar or drumkit? Um NO! That is what I meant by talents.

[RunningAlone Pgh]

If it weren't for JOURNEY we'd be buying "Perry Spicy Chicken Wings" for NFL games on Sunday and arguing who has the better sauce: Perry or Perdue...?

Ok, Fyre - you font of all knowledge and truth - if you "know" so much, why don't you "know" that it was a turkey farm that Perry worked on, not chicken? You've dipped your "fyrewyngz" in the wrong poultry!!!!

[NealIsGod]

If it weren't for JOURNEY we'd be buying "Perry Spicy Chicken Wings" for NFL games on Sunday and arguing who has the better sauce: Perry or Perdue...?

Ok, Fyre - you font of all knowledge and truth - if you "know" so much, why don't you "know" that it was a turkey farm that Perry worked on, not chicken? You've dipped your "fyrewyngz" in the wrong poultry!!!!

Way to take him to the woodshed, Pgh.

[Matthew]

Isn't it just more honest to say that we don't really care about or understand the music scene now?

LOL, no I DO understand the music scene today........have a 16 year old daughter. I mean come on, compare the talents of one Mr. Steve Perry and one Ms. Britney Spears. At least Christine Aguilera can sing.

Exactly Deb...Christina Aguilera is a talented singer who has been supported by the modern music industry. Her voice is far superior to, say, Debbie Gibson or Tiffany - who were a success back in the so-called golden age of quality music.

Britney is adorable but no...she isn't a major talent. But is she any better or worse than the Osmonds? Or the New Seasons? Or the Brotherhood of Man?

We can go back to the beginning of popular music and look at the charts from each year and be amazed at how much rubbish there has always been.

Ok, good points, I'll give ya that. But I was thinking more along the lines of the Rock Bands from back then, like Queen, Journey, Styx, etc..........usually had great vocalists and could play their instruments well (and most times can play more than just one instrument). LOL, had this argument with my daughter too.......nevermind the "so called singing", but would any of these hiphop/rap artists/bands even know what to do with a guitar or drumkit? Um NO! That is what I meant by talents.

Well, in the late 1970s and early 80s we also had punk, new wave and disco - which all represented a shift away from musicianship. They had a DIY ethic - which I hated - but equally many of those acts are now considered rock legends too...The Clash, The Sex Pistols, the Ramones, Blondie...none of these bands could play their instruments especially well.

In fact they have more credibility generally than Journey or Styx do - because the perception is somehow that the Ramones were more 'real' or 'authentic' than Journey who were - it's often argued - too interested in appealing to a mass audiuence.

Also - we can't bring hip-hop bands into the singing debate...because they don't sing. But R N B does produce talented singers...such as Beyonce.

So...my point is...bad musicians have been thriving for decades...and it's unfair to compare computer-generated music and rap with Brian May and Freddie Mercury because the genres are totally different.

The fact is...when I was playing Journey and Metallica and Motley Crue at home when I was a teenager my mum would say...but they're not as good as the Beatles or the Rolling Stones or the Kinks or Joni Mitchell...

....and when she was young her mum said rock n roll was just 'noise' and why didn't she listen to 'real music' like Glenn Miller and Perry Como and Frank Sinatra....

It's the old fart cycle...and now it's just our turn to say things aren't as good as they used to be.

So go easy on your daughter, Deb!

[RunningAlone Pgh]

Way to take him to the woodshed, Pgh.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I'm sure that they had GOOD reasons and trust that they meant no harm. Certain people will suggest that they've broken some commandment worthy of stoning!

Neal is a pre-eminent guitar wizard, but even he would admit that much of Journey's catalog is vocally orientated.
I'm sorry, you simply cannot use fake lead vocals when your band is largely vocally-driven.

This isn't a case of Britney Spears up on stage faking it, while simultaneously shaking her tom-toms and naughty bits.

I didn't go to see Steve Augeri's hairy guido ass.
I came to hear him sing.

[Deb]

It's the old fart cycle...and now it's just our turn to say things aren't as good as they used to be.

So go easy on your daughter, Deb!

Fuck that, I'll NEVER admit to being an old fart. LMAO, Matt.......I do go easy on my daughter......she is the only one that has been able to say Perry looks like a monkey and live to tell about it. LOL, she thinks
J Bonjovi is hot for an old fart, but calls Perry monkeyboy......she just doesn't get it! If I hear "mom met monkeyboy" one more time, I'm grounding her. Although she does like Journey music, catch her singing along to it all the time in the car........even requests Wheel in the sky, LTS and oh sherri. The teens nowadays do like the classicrock, alot of her friends have bands like Journey, GNR, ACDC, Aerosmith, Motley Crue in their IPODs (mixed in with Rhianna, Blackeyed peas, etc.). Classic rock must have something, because I don't remember listening to our parents music/records when I was a teen ( ok, maybe Elvis).

[Wheels Of Fyre]

If it weren't for JOURNEY we'd be buying "Perry Spicy Chicken Wings" for NFL games on Sunday and arguing who has the better sauce: Perry or Perdue...?

Ok, Fyre - you font of all knowledge and truth - if you "know" so much, why don't you "know" that it was a turkey farm that Perry worked on, not chicken? You've dipped your "fyrewyngz" in the wrong poultry!!!!

Thanks for the correction. I've actually posted about it as "turkey" in past threads on other sites.

Whatever! Maybe I was subconsciously trying to be kind. There's something more distinguishing working with chickens than turkeys. Plus there's no name in the turkey industry that's as known Perdue so it's much funnier to skew history and claim chickens.

Come on - you have to admit that Perry Chicken might actually give Perdue a run for his money! Do you think Perry sang to the turkeys like that cowboy kid did on American Idol...?

BTW the Robyn Flans (sp?) book about JOURNEY that you always hear so much about (which I have but haven't read in a long time) also notes that Perry's teeth were horribly infected prior to joining JOURNEY. So I guess JOURNEY can also take credit for that wonderful Perry smile.

Listen, I only brought it up in response to the claim that SA was a "nobody" prior to JOURNEY. Well, he did something that SP never did - he was signed to a label and was part of 2 bands that had legitimate releases. Perry never got past recording demos.

But SO WHAT? It doesn't even matter and the fact that people want to make it matter is sheer futility.

[Deb]

There's something more distinguishing working with chickens than turkeys.

Huh?? LMAO, ok?

[Wheels Of Fyre]

I'm sure that they had GOOD reasons and trust that they meant no harm. Certain people will suggest that they've broken some commandment worthy of stoning!

Neal is a pre-eminent guitar wizard, but even he would admit that much of Journey's catalog is vocally orientated.
I'm sorry, you simply cannot use fake lead vocals when your band is largely vocally-driven.

This isn't a case of Britney Spears up on stage faking it, while simultaneously shaking her tom-toms and naughty bits.

I didn't go to see Steve Augeri's hairy guido ass.
I came to hear him sing.

But he was unable to sing. So what should they have done? Cancel the shows and the tour? Immediately bring in JSS? etc.?

It's easy to call from the armchair BUT there's no way you can know all of the contractual commitments.

BTW some women would probably argue that if Britney can shake her naughty bits then so can SA.

It's amazing how you can accept Britney's flat-out fakery just because she's easy on the eyes but SA gets crucified for having being sick!

Talk about hypocrisy and kicking a guy when he's down!

[L~L~L]

Perry didn't work with chickens or turkeys, he built their cages.

Fyrewingz sometimes the right music does not make it to the right people's hands. As you can tell the wrong people make it in the buisness like Britney Spears. Augeri was never ment for success, 1 record does not make you a superstar. Your coments about Perry's teeth are uncalled for and childish. However, I am sure cleaning toilets at the GAP came with dental benefits!

[Deb]

Perry didn't work with chickens or turkeys, he built their cages.

Fyrewingz sometimes the right music does not make it to the right people's hands. As you can tell the wrong people make it in the buisness like Britney Spears. Augeri was never ment for success, 1 record does not make you a superstar. Your coments about Perry's teeth are uncalled for and childish. However, I am sure cleaning toilets at the GAP came with dental benefits!

Lovelylourdes? Is that Anthony Keidis in your avatar?

[L~L~L]

Perry didn't work with chickens or turkeys, he built their cages.

Fyrewingz sometimes the right music does not make it to the right people's hands. As you can tell the wrong people make it in the buisness like Britney Spears. Augeri was never ment for success, 1 record does not make you a superstar. Your coments about Perry's teeth are uncalled for and childish. However, I am sure cleaning toilets at the GAP came with dental benefits!

Lovelylourdes? Is that Anthony Keidis in your avatar?

Yesssssssssssssssssss, I am currently in lust with this man!

[The_Noble_Cause]

But he was unable to sing. So what should they have done? Cancel the shows and the tour?

In theory, yes.
However, let's take a pragmatic point of view, these guys can't renege on contracts, so they had no choice but to do whatever they had to and finish the already in-progress '05 tour.
Here's the kicker......
They CONTINUED to do it.
Even AFTER the tour.
They went to the UK and fleeced those poor souls and if it weren't for one possesed fan and his blog, they would've used tapes for the Leppard tour!

Immediately bring in JSS? etc.?

Yes.
Or someone else.

Just don't cheat your fans.

Especially after so many had to come to grips and make a leap of faith to even give a non-Perry Journey a shot in the first place.

It's amazing how you can accept Britney's flat-out fakery just because she's easy on the eyes but SA gets crucified for having being sick!

Talk about hypocrisy and kicking a guy when he's down!

Journey's shows are very stripped back.
You have the Scarab icon in the background and just the sheer musicianship of the guys on stage.
There are no smoke machines, no lazer light shows, and no T & A.
How can you even begin to equate the sumptuous visual feast of a semi-nude Britney to a bunch of old dudes on stage?

Is the sn "FyreWyngz" a roundabout way of informing us you're actually a flaming homosexual?

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Perry didn't work with chickens or turkeys, he built their cages.

Fyrewingz sometimes the right music does not make it to the right people's hands. As you can tell the wrong people make it in the buisness like Britney Spears. Augeri was never ment for success, 1 record does not make you a superstar. Your coments about Perry's teeth are uncalled for and childish. However, I am sure cleaning toilets at the GAP came with dental benefits!

Childish...? Since when is ANYONE here childish? Hey - I'm just quoting what was in the book.

I do believe The Gap has a superior dental plan or at least they BETTER considering the prices they charge!