Stupid tape gate discussion

[Arkansas]

"You just heard what of his voice Kevin Elson wanted you to hear."


So if...
1. NS and the band didn't know about it, then they should equally blame Kevin Elson for collusion.
2. NS and the band did know about it, but not to what extent, then they should equally blame Kevin Elson for collusion.
3. NS and the band were fully aware of it, then they're all in the $hitter for collusion, and SA can't be a lone scape goat.
4. Nobody knew anything but Augeri, and he held a loaded weapon to KE's head, forcing him to do it...night after night.
5. Anything about this were true, and the band blames Augeri for whatever amount. And, Augeri has lawyers wrangling for more cash (hush money), and is disgusted with the band. Then how did Augeri get any access to them at a show and why did JSS speak so highly of him? Is JSS being 'duped' by <whoever> also?

How many times is the band's mgt going to miserably handle their singer situation? Seems to reason the band's mgt should be first to get sacked and the entire organization overhauled.

Something smells in Stinkville...


later~

[Jeremey fan forever]

"You just heard what of his voice Kevin Elson wanted you to hear."


So if...
1. NS and the band didn't know about it, then they should equally blame Kevin Elson for collusion.
2. NS and the band did know about it, but not to what extent, then they should equally blame Kevin Elson for collusion.
3. NS and the band were fully aware of it, then they're all in the $hitter for collusion, and SA can't be a lone scape goat.
4. Nobody knew anything but Augeri, and he held a loaded weapon to KE's head, forcing him to do it...night after night.
5. Anything about this were true, and the band blames Augeri for whatever amount. And, Augeri has lawyers wrangling for more cash (hush money), and is disgusted with the band. Then how did Augeri get any access to them at a show and why did JSS speak so highly of him? Is JSS being 'duped' by <whoever> also?

How many times is the band's mgt going to miserably handle their singer situation? Seems to reason the band's mgt should be first to get sacked and the entire organization overhauled.

Something smells in Stinkville...


later~

Something smells alright, its you ruining this thread with more talk of tape gate. start a tape gate thread if you want but otherwise shut the fuck up. Tired of hearing about it.

[Citygirl]

Unfortunately I have to agree with pdsidd on this one. Even after all the stuff that's been said here I still stick to my original thoughts on the Edinburgh gig. And just for the record, a good friend of mine was at Manchester and never mentioned any problem with Faithfully either.

I'm not saying what you hear on stage is completely pure, obviously all bands with use some form of enhancements. But like I said, what's been suggested here i.e. miming to a tape of his own voice for the whole gig... 2 feet away I think I would have noticed. But maybe I was on something that night...

[The_Noble_Cause]

And just for the record, a good friend of mine was at Manchester and never mentioned any problem with Faithfully either.

Andrew's Noticeboard had a few eye witness accounts of people mentioning Augeri's microphone cutting out midway during "Faithfully" in Manchester.
UK fans actually cited this incident as irrefutable proof that tapes couldn't possibly have been used.

However, when the clip was posted online it became laughably obvious.
It wasn't the mic that cut out, it was the tape leaving Augeri to fend for himself.

With any luck, this link should still work (isolated vocal from the Vegas dvd cuts short at 1:06)
Listen for Deen pulling double duty and saving Steve's ass by singing the high parts at the end.

http://www.2dorks.com/junk/journey/faithfully.mp3

[Blueskies]

I was not an Augeri fan and only saw him sing once with Journey in the very beginning, but I thought he had a good voice. It is disappointing to see how bad the man has been condemned on this board. Come on people, he's only human, not a singing robot! He started having trouble with his voice....so what??!! I'm sure all singer's have had their rough time's, especially when touring over a long period of time. Should they have kept going with taped assistance? Maybe not, but many have done it. Maybe the reason's were not all selfish, maybe the band was just giving it time to try to work through the problem. Maybe they were trying to keep going not just for themselve's but for their staff's and crew and familie's who rely on them. Are you all perfect people? Don't think so! Augeri is fallible just like the rest of us. The guy gave you what, 8 year's? No respect for that? Don't know the politic's of the band or who is going to sing in the future or if they will even continue after this tour. All I know is I would like to thank all member's of the band, past and present, for creating and sharing the music I've enjoyed for so long.

[Abitaman]

I was not an Augeri fan and only saw him sing once with Journey in the very beginning, but I thought he had a good voice. It is disappointing to see how bad the man has been condemned on this board. Come on people, he's only human, not a singing robot! He started having trouble with his voice....so what??!! I'm sure all singer's have had their rough time's, especially when touring over a long period of time. Should they have kept going with taped assistance? Maybe not, but many have done it. Maybe the reason's were not all selfish, maybe the band was just giving it time to try to work through the problem. Maybe they were trying to keep going not just for themselve's but for their staff's and crew and familie's who rely on them. Are you all perfect people? Don't think so! Augeri is fallible just like the rest of us. The guy gave you what, 8 year's? No respect for that? Don't know the politic's of the band or who is going to sing in the future or if they will even continue after this tour. All I know is I would like to thank all member's of the band, past and present, for creating and sharing the music I've enjoyed for so long.

I fell the same way, maybe more so. I believe something was a foot, but not as bad as it is made out to be. I would go see him perform with Journey or solo. Most people do forget, he is human, and having to sing in the inhuman parts of the perrygod. If we was a politician, no one would think twice of this. But he is a musician, and can only do so much.

Was it wrong, yes, even if a little was used. But everyone does it now a days, it is common place. Does anyone else get their balls busted over it? NO. Why did Augeri get his balls busted on it? I hold Augeri as much to blame as anyone else in the band. I hold the band to blame as much as Augeri. But I will see Journey again, and see Augeri again.
I have made mistakes, glad my wife, family, friends, job, I'm Glad they all forgave me, or I would be one lonely person. If for some reason this is not true and did not happen, then we all have blamed an person who is not to blame. He may not be to blame if it did happen. We are just wanting to take someone down, and Say "look at what I did", and I want no part of that.-ERIC

[Abitaman]

I was not an Augeri fan and only saw him sing once with Journey in the very beginning, but I thought he had a good voice. It is disappointing to see how bad the man has been condemned on this board. Come on people, he's only human, not a singing robot! He started having trouble with his voice....so what??!! I'm sure all singer's have had their rough time's, especially when touring over a long period of time. Should they have kept going with taped assistance? Maybe not, but many have done it. Maybe the reason's were not all selfish, maybe the band was just giving it time to try to work through the problem. Maybe they were trying to keep going not just for themselve's but for their staff's and crew and familie's who rely on them. Are you all perfect people? Don't think so! Augeri is fallible just like the rest of us. The guy gave you what, 8 year's? No respect for that? Don't know the politic's of the band or who is going to sing in the future or if they will even continue after this tour. All I know is I would like to thank all member's of the band, past and present, for creating and sharing the music I've enjoyed for so long.

I fell the same way, maybe more so. I believe something was a foot, but not as bad as it is made out to be. I would go see him perform with Journey or solo. Most people do forget, he is human, and having to sing in the inhuman parts of the perrygod. If we was a politician, no one would think twice of this. But he is a musician, and can only do so much.

Was it wrong, yes, even if a little was used. But everyone does it now a days, it is common place. Does anyone else get their balls busted over it? NO. Why did Augeri get his balls busted on it? I hold Augeri as much to blame as anyone else in the band. I hold the band to blame as much as Augeri. But I will see Journey again, and see Augeri again.
I have made mistakes, glad my wife, family, friends, job, I'm Glad they all forgave me, or I would be one lonely person. If for some reason this is not true and did not happen, then we all have blamed an person who is not to blame. He may not be to blame if it did happen. We are just wanting to take someone down, and Say "look at what I did", and I want no part of that.-ERIC

[JrnyScarab]

I was not an Augeri fan and only saw him sing once with Journey in the very beginning, but I thought he had a good voice. It is disappointing to see how bad the man has been condemned on this board. Come on people, he's only human, not a singing robot! He started having trouble with his voice....so what??!! I'm sure all singer's have had their rough time's, especially when touring over a long period of time. Should they have kept going with taped assistance? Maybe not, but many have done it. Maybe the reason's were not all selfish, maybe the band was just giving it time to try to work through the problem. Maybe they were trying to keep going not just for themselve's but for their staff's and crew and familie's who rely on them. Are you all perfect people? Don't think so! Augeri is fallible just like the rest of us. The guy gave you what, 8 year's? No respect for that? Don't know the politic's of the band or who is going to sing in the future or if they will even continue after this tour. All I know is I would like to thank all member's of the band, past and present, for creating and sharing the music I've enjoyed for so long.

I fell the same way, maybe more so. I believe something was a foot, but not as bad as it is made out to be. I would go see him perform with Journey or solo. Most people do forget, he is human, and having to sing in the inhuman parts of the perrygod. If we was a politician, no one would think twice of this. But he is a musician, and can only do so much.

Was it wrong, yes, even if a little was used. But everyone does it now a days, it is common place. Does anyone else get their balls busted over it? NO. Why did Augeri get his balls busted on it? I hold Augeri as much to blame as anyone else in the band. I hold the band to blame as much as Augeri. But I will see Journey again, and see Augeri again.
I have made mistakes, glad my wife, family, friends, job, I'm Glad they all forgave me, or I would be one lonely person. If for some reason this is not true and did not happen, then we all have blamed an person who is not to blame. He may not be to blame if it did happen. We are just wanting to take someone down, and Say "look at what I did", and I want no part of that.-ERIC

I like Steve and I think the band still does. He was at a show in NJ and from reports from JSS, the band and him got on fine. I really suspect at this point that this is mostly a management problem. Contracts have a funny way of controlling what people can and can't do & say. Look at Andrew's situation. First he said he had the OK to move forward with the story when it was complete and now management has apparently changed their minds. Don't underestimate the role that management has played in all of this.

[EightyRock]

Of course they played a part in it. They had to SAVE the tour. You know....cash....money....big bucks and contracts on the line for EVERYBODY, including management and a tour with big name band. Whatever you're hoping to hear, the nitty gritty details of tapegate or anything other than a complete whitewash of the situation (if you even get THAT), you are anticipating something that isn't going to happen. I predict Perry will tour before you get the skinny on tapegate in Andrew's (or anyone elses) interview.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Come on people, he's only human, not a singing robot!

Thing is, people didn't shell out big bucks to go see a fellow human.
We can all look at each other in the crowd to see that.
We paid to hear him sing and he did practically none of that.
The only song sang 100% live in '05 was Loving;Touching; Squeezing.

Augeri is fallible just like the rest of us. The guy gave you what, 8 year's? No respect for that?

Why should there be?
The last two practically negated all the good merits of the first 6.
If it wasn't for the valiant efforts of a fan and his blog, Augeri would've kept on faking it.
He transmogrified the band into what Neal Schon despises the most; "a pro-tools band".

[bluejeangirl76]

I predict Perry will tour before you get the skinny on tapegate in Andrew's (or anyone elses) interview.

And I predict that Perry will tour WITH JOURNEY before you get the skinny on tapegate in Andrew's (or anyone elses) interview.

Now damn it, can we get off the tapegate thing and get back to bugging Andrew about the interviews? Isn't that what this post was originally about?

Andreeeew...are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? How much longer? Can we stop for McDonalds? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Now?? What about now? Are we there yet?

[The_Noble_Cause]

But everyone does it now a days, it is common place.

If I was JSS I'd take offense to this comment.

Does anyone else get their balls busted over it? NO. Why did Augeri get his balls busted on it?

Why do u think?
Because, unlike other classic rock bands, Steve was using it for WHOLE tours.
It stopped being enhancement and crossed into outright fraud.
What he truly sang was absolutely negligible.
A minute or so here, a minute or so there.

[Aaron]

I'm trying to avoid that now but I think its coming down to lawyers ... I'll hate that. It sounds like first hand experience on your side. Good luck with your deal.

Journey isn't the one gunking up the works.
It's a soon-to-be ex-member that is strangulating the boys coffers and nickel and diming them to death!

Steve Augeri- u are a crookedy nosed guido punk.

Get over urself and give Jeff the same chance the boys generously gave u back in 1998.

Oh come on. It's not him. It's the lawyers. Once they get involved everything takes forever. Try getting divorced w/lawyers involved. Yuck.

[Aaron]

What did I miss? Did Journey drop the hammer and Mac's interview? Why?

Jesus, when will Journey get over their paranoid communist mentality about communication??? No news about a sick lead singer in four months, now Andrew can't release interviews this week as promised (surprise)! I love the hell out of Journey music, but I have to say on a personal level they begin to disgust the hell out of me. Get over yourselves Journey! Quit being a bunch of paronoid control freaks, and quit hiding so much! Do you think it will even matter? Just be honest!

[ArnelRox]

Why do u think?
Because, unlike other classic rock bands, Steve was using it for WHOLE tours.
It stopped being enhancement and crossed into outright fraud.
What he truly sang was absolutely negligible.
A minute or so here, a minute or so there.

This is a good point. I've seen 2 other bands recently that both used vocal enhancements (no not backing vocals, read: lipping). But I have to admit, it was only used here & there. It wasn't the whole show or even most of it. Altho it was whole songs.

Thank God Journey is now LIVE w/a singer who can belt it out w/the best of them.

[Abitaman]

But everyone does it now a days, it is common place.

If I was JSS I'd take offense to this comment.

Does anyone else get their balls busted over it? NO. Why did Augeri get his balls busted on it?

Why do u think?
Because, unlike other classic rock bands, Steve was using it for WHOLE tours.
It stopped being enhancement and crossed into outright fraud.
What he truly sang was absolutely negligible.
A minute or so here, a minute or so there.

I don't think JSS would take offense to it. Everyone comment "meant close to everybody", but any kind of vocal help is just that.

I still don't think it was quite that bad as some here say. Not trying to get in an argument over it, but that is just what I think. As far as fraud? If it is as bad as some say, then it could be called that, depending on how you look at it. If he had done that when I saw him on the 30th tour, and I found out later, well if I dont know the difference at the time and had a great time....but if I was there and I noticed it and it was bad, then yes I would be pissed.
But I think the reason Augeri got his balls busted had less to do with the lipping, than with the fact he wasn't Perry, IMO-ERIC

[The_Noble_Cause]

I still don't think it was quite that bad as some here say.

No, it was waaay worse.
Brittney Spears sang more than Steve Augeri in '05.

But I think the reason Augeri got his balls busted had less to do with the lipping, than with the fact he wasn't Perry, IMO-ERIC

That's a valid alternative theory.
No truth to it whatsoever, sadly.

[heardonthestreet]

I think that the way Augeri was made to look like the only one to blame for this and the way that he was drawn and quartered on this well read board, may have a lot to do with his demanding recompense, if this is the case. He was made to look like he held a gun to the rest of the bands heads and brought to his knees at his last concert. If it takes big bucks to take the fall for the band, I hope he makes it worth his while.

[bluejeangirl76]

I still don't think it was quite that bad as some here say. ....

But I think the reason Augeri got his balls busted had less to do with the lipping, than with the fact he wasn't Perry, IMO-ERIC

Well, not being Perry is a forgivable offense since he obviously doesn't have control over that.
But the lipping? What, did the devil make him do it? (well actually, yeah.... if devil = magament, but that's another matter entirely) Yeah, I'm thinking that played a huge roll in him getting busted on.

[ArnelRox]

Point me to a video that has no crowd noise where there should be crowd noise or whatever and I'm a believer but when push comes to shove you believe your own eyes and ears and I was in Edinburgh and if Steve was miming he was absolute perfection at it because I couldn't tell he was doing it.

Look ur probably not going to believe me about this any more than anyone else here. But I suggest u do some digging, listen to some boots & form ur own opinion. Ur not going to find the evidence u want where there is no crowd noise. Obviously u don't understand the way this was done. They didn't get up on stage & play a CD to the crowd. They specifically fed in SA's vocal track. The rest of the band was playing live but that track wasn't. If u listen to boot after boot after boot of shows from last year & ur ears are pretty good, u will start to hear the same, exact same, vocal track used nite after nite. It's a bit deceiving at first b/c the rest of the music is live so u have to listen ONLY to SA & block out the rest of the instruments being played. But u will hear the same inflections & intonations on words sang every single time. & no vocalist can do that identically. If u look at some of the videos that AR posted a while back (I have them if u need them), u will see SA using a giant mic to hide his mouth & u will notice that he does not move back & forth from the mic as a vocalist has to do when singing b/c their voice becomes louder at times. If u look at earlier videos of SA singing, u will see he used to do that all the time but then he stopped. If ur not familiar w/vocalists using a mic then u may need to look at videos of multiple bands live to see if (YouTube is a good place for that).

I heard about what was going on with SA a looooong time ago. Long before I heard of Dean or this site & long before these rumors surfaced. I didn't totally understand what I being told at the time. Then it started to make sense. Then, I checked the evidence for myself & it became apparent.

As for ur comments about Jeff, I really suggest u go to a show & see him live. I'm a major Perry loon. I know these songs backwards. I work in a place that has live music nitely. I get an education from the singers that perform on what missing notes & being out of range means. I'm not a professional like some people here, but I have a decent ear. I saw Jeff the other nite. He was absolutely amazing. He hit every note perfectly & his voice was strong & true. Most of all, u could hear his vocals very clearly. They weren't drowned out by the other instruments as was often the case w/Augeri. They were mixed like they were in the Perry days w/the vocals out front. It was 100% live & different from other nites when he sang the same songs. I was thrilled to hear him. I can't wait to see him perform again & I hope he stays w/Journey for a long long time.

[Blueskies]

Come on people, he's only human, not a singing robot!

Thing is, people didn't shell out big bucks to go see a fellow human.
We can all look at each other in the crowd to see that.
We paid to hear him sing and he did practically none of that.
The only song sang 100% live in '05 was Loving;Touching; Squeezing.

Augeri is fallible just like the rest of us. The guy gave you what, 8 year's? No respect for that?

Why should there be?
The last two practically negated all the good merits of the first 6.
If it wasn't for the valiant efforts of a fan and his blog, Augeri would've kept on faking it.
He transmogrified the band into what Neal Schon despises the most; "a pro-tools band".

"Didn't shell out to see a fellow human"???? That is absolutely the most idiotic statement I have ever read on this board! Congratulation's!....... I wasn't following the band in 05' so I'm not going to argue with you point by point.....see Monker for that! ha! Wasn't a fan of Augeri. I was just saying that it's not fair to put a guy on trial without knowing all the fact's. He IS human after all! I guess your perfect, right?? You take this whole thing WAY too seriously!

[Blueskies]

On another note, Noble Cause.......Yes I wish he had not resorted to using tape, but to keep thing's in perspective.....I also wish for world peace, that we didn't pollute our planet, that our pollitician's were honest and trustworthy, that big business didn't control manipulate and rip us off, that media was more responsible and journalist's did their job's, there was no crime, poverty, or suffering, everyone was honest and loved and respected one another, etc., etc., etc.

Oh yeah! I wish Steve Perry would sing again!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Didn't shell out to see a fellow human"???? That is absolutely the most idiotic statement I have ever read on this board! Congratulation's!.......

Maybe I bumbled the phrasing, but the point remains the same.
We pay to go see talent put on display.
Any of us lowley shmoes can fake it.

I wasn't following the band in 05' so I'm not going to argue with you point by point

So in other words, u didn't personally drop any bread to go see Augeri.
No wonder u are so nonchalant about it.

I was just saying that it's not fair to put a guy on trial without knowing all the fact's.

What possibly could justify such an act?
Try to think up a possible scenario.
I'll wait.

He IS human after all! I guess your perfect, right??

Last I checked I'm not stealing anyone's money under false pretenses.

You take this whole thing WAY too seriously!

And years after his death, u prove P.T. Barnum's most infamous maxim to be true.

[Blueskies]

Didn't shell out to see a fellow human"???? That is absolutely the most idiotic statement I have ever read on this board! Congratulation's!.......

Maybe I bumbled the phrasing, but the point remains the same.
We pay to go see talent put on display.
Any of us lowley shmoes can fake it.

I wasn't following the band in 05' so I'm not going to argue with you point by point

So in other words, u didn't personally drop any bread to go see Augeri.
No wonder u are so nonchalant about it.

I was just saying that it's not fair to put a guy on trial without knowing all the fact's.

What possibly could justify such an act?
Try to think up a possible scenario.
I'll wait.

He IS human after all! I guess your perfect, right??

Last I checked I'm not stealing anyone's money under false pretenses.

You take this whole thing WAY too seriously!

And years after his death, u prove P.T. Barnum's most infamous maxim to be true.

Uh dude, just like with Augeri you don't know all your fact's. You make assumption's. I did pay to see the band when Augeri was singing, just not in 05'! Try gathering all the fact's when you put someone on trial. Now go find Monker to argue with. I don't have any more time for this and it lead's no where. You are to rigid and set in your opinion's and will not change them no matter what someone else has to say. We dis-agree, but it doesn't make my opinion's any less valid than your's. Have a great night!

[Mark H]

It's garbage to suggest that Steve Augeri was miming for a year - three rows back during the UK tour I can say categorically he was not miming. Bulls**t.

The guy deserve whatever he gets if they're hanging him out to dry - he's twice the singer JSS is and Journey will be the worse for him not being there.

I'm not an Augeri fan per se, I liked Perry as well but JSS is not good enough and from what I've heard cannot hit the notes like Augeri or Perry did. JRNY need to raise the bar.

As great a frontman that JSS is, he's not enough of a singer in my opinion.

I saw 4 of the Euro shows, all from within the first 5 rows and agree, no way was Steve miming, although maybe things went 'ze shape of ze pair' at the start of the US tour. Don't know.... wasn't there.

I did see the so called incriminating boots of the Manchester show and the boot simply does not show what happened on the night, at least from my 5th row position. Maybe it was doctored, maybe it was just a function of the equipment it was recorded on..don't know..it just wasn't the sight or sound from my position in the hall.

I am a fan of Steve's work both in Journey and Tall Stories and personally would like him to return, however, if he's not up to it JSS is the man to take the band forward. I''ve seen and met him a number of times and he can hit the notes with ease and with power. Just hope it wouldn't signal the end of Jeffs great solo/Talisman efforts.

We have no say in what will be and I for one am sick of all the dialogue. lts only music after all and whatever happens I'm sure the lawyers will do alright off it .

[The_Noble_Cause]

Uh dude, just like with Augeri you don't know all your fact's. You make assumption's. I did pay to see the band when Augeri was singing, just not in 05'! Try gathering all the fact's when you put someone on trial.

Augeri lip-synched.
This has been confirmed by various industry insiders, sources close to the band, and people within the band themselves.
There is no room for anymore debate.
If you defend paying to go see a Journey show in 2005, then u are nothing more than a willful sucker who likes being raped.

You are to rigid and set in your opinion's and will not change them no matter what someone else has to say.

You've said nothing except "Augeri is human".
How is that a justification for fraud?

We dis-agree, but it doesn't make my opinion's any less valid than your's.

Sure it does.
My opinion is based on knowledge, urs is based on feelings.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I saw 4 of the Euro shows, all from within the first 5 rows and agree, no way was Steve miming, although maybe things went 'ze shape of ze pair' at the start of the US tour. Don't know.... wasn't there.

It's a credit to Steve Augeri that more and more people like this keep sprouting up.
Way to go Steve.
Your act really conned alot of people.
For your new job, may I suggest selling Rolex-knockoffs in Times Square.
You'd be perfect!

I did see the so called incriminating boots of the Manchester show and the boot simply does not show what happened on the night, at least from my 5th row position. Maybe it was doctored, maybe it was just a function of the equipment it was recorded on..don't know..it just wasn't the sight or sound from my position in the hall.

The boot(s) used by Deano to take down the band weren't video format, so I'm not sure what exactly you were watching.
Compression issues (or something) on YouTube.com cause sound and video not to allign and make many singers look to be lipping when they aren't.

[Blueskies]

Uh dude, just like with Augeri you don't know all your fact's. You make assumption's. I did pay to see the band when Augeri was singing, just not in 05'! Try gathering all the fact's when you put someone on trial.

Augeri lip-synched.
This has been confirmed by various industry insiders, sources close to the band, and people within the band themselves.
There is no room for anymore debate.
If you defend paying to go see a Journey show in 2005, then u are nothing more than a willful sucker who likes being raped.

You are to rigid and set in your opinion's and will not change them no matter what someone else has to say.

You've said nothing except "Augeri is human".
How is that a justification for fraud?

We dis-agree, but it doesn't make my opinion's any less valid than your's.

Sure it does.
My opinion is based on knowledge, urs is based on feelings.

You seem hungry and want to be fed.......so here you go....Steve Perry was the best rock singer ever!!...........argument?

[knox]

I am afraid this is going to be another Behind The Music situation with the interview.

Andrew WANTS to give us the whole truth, but the interviews are going to be censored by:

Take your pick:

A) Augeri and/or his attorneys
B) Neal, Jon, Ross, Deen
C) Band Management
E) All of the above

The way it looks, the full story may have gone the way of the Dallas DVD from last year.

Again, I am sure this is no fault of Andrew's. Just another rung in the ladder of Journey and its cover-ups - beginning with Perry's forced gag order on the band way back when.

[kbo]

Some of these comments about Augeri being the one who should be blamed for concerts with taped vocals are simply absurd! Augeri is a pawn here. He is HUMAN and kept the show goin for 7 years and now has problems with his voice. Why is HE the villain here. Why is he the one blamed for tapegate or lipsyncing when he was TOLD to sing with a F@$#ed up voice. Augeri has no say in what this band does during a show and all decisions I am sure are made by the BAND and its mgmt. Neal Schon and the bands mgmt run Journey. Steve Augeri did the best he could to keep the shows moving forward and at the end he bowed or was forced out because the BAND was caught... Maybe the BAND should have done more or corrected this sooner by turning to JSS or another singer much sooner. I think Steve Augeri is currently under a gag order by the bands mgmt otherwise someone would have talked LONNNGGG ago. This guy is/was nothing but a true professional for 7 years with this band and now it's over for him. How about a little ATABOY here. When this is OVER he will come out and thank those that supported him as the lead singer for Journey for 7 years. The band won't allow him to speak until this is all out in the open, and it's possible that due to legal contracts he may never be able to speak the truth.

The BAND handled this poorly. They had a chance to fess up long ago to tell the truth.. Probably didn't want to do that at the beginning of a national tour to anger the people who came to enjoy Steve A. over the years.

Personally I enjoyed Steve Augeri for 7 years. Now I enjoy Jeff Scott Soto.. I enjoy JOURNEY because of the music and whomever is singing it..

Stop chastising Steve Augeri, who has the least SAY of all band memebers other than Dean Castronovo and give him PROPS for keeping the show going..


How hard is that..