BackTalk Proclamation

[ArnelRox]

and many feel that deano has gone too far in his loon hate?

I don't get this. Dean is the biggest Perry fan around. He adores Perry. He also has a ton of Perry boots, probably clost to as many as CRL & Strungout & if ur nice, he shares them.

Admittedly, he doesn't like those who just won't let Journey continue w/out Perry & who criticizes them for doing so. I'm a Perryloon myself. Dean has never offended me b/c of it.

[Andrew]

Andrew, I am NOT on a Dean crusade. His actions speak for themselves. If you don't like it, I understand that because he's probably a large part of your bread and butter here. I WISH you were as emphatic when it came time to silencing him with his reckless posting about others. Oh, but wait, you can't stand Monker, so he's fair game and it's fun.

This board is a laugh riot with all of its inconsistencies and hypocrisy.

You are sounding more and more like someone else on this board with every post. Deano is far from my bread and butter - he caused more headaches this year than everyone else combined.

But I am taking his statement on face value and I ask you to do the same until proven otherwise. Post away, but no more obsessing with Deano please.

[Andrew]

I can comment here a little - there is absolutely no connection between Deano and band management. Zero.
I know that Dean only got to meet some of the band earlier in this tour.

Deano started a massive ball rolling and I believe he really is trying to put things right.

The events of the last year also gave me a massive migrane and sleepless nights trying to keep this forum open while evetyone had their say about things.

I for one am looking forward to the band's statement and perhaps the beginning of a chance for everyone to move forward.

Sorry, I do NOT believe you and why should I, Andrew? The way you've carried the ball for this little syncophant makes you look just as culpable. In my book, you've not only lost my respect, but a ton of credibility for hooking up with Dean, the Cretin. Carry on, Andrew. You guys make a great pair.

WTF?
I allow everyone to have their say on this board and that includes YOU. I also cannot be here 24/7 to delete posts that were unacceptable.

I do NOT appreciate your tone or your comment.

[Andrew]

Hey, let's not forget that a whopping 22 people, or 44% think Deano is full of shit, and only a few of them have likely posted here. But I'M the one on a crusade, huh Andrew? And pigs fly too...

Shut up already.

[Enigma869]

very true ..... and many feel that deano has gone too far in his loon hate?

So what I am reading is that Deano has apologized to everyone but Perry fans?

Does that mean he gets to abuse Perry fans if he is in the mood, because the apology was never meant to include them, even to most Perry fans are Journey fans, Perry fans, buy Journey music and Journey sway and Perry fans by tix.

Andrew, can you hgive me an early ruling on this ..... I confuse so easily and just want to keep everything straight.

I'm quite sure that Dean is a Perry fan. Sure...he's taken some shots at Perry (And many other people here), but so what. Listen, I'm the biggest Perry fan on the planet and believe with EVERY fiber of my being that Journey will NEVER have one quarter of the success without Perry that they had with him, and that is no disrespect to JSS, at all. I just believe that is the reality of Journey, without Perry.

Honestly, I can't believe people take Dean so seriously. As I've said many times here...It's part of his schtick, folks! Not everything he says is meant to be taken seriously. I definitely think Dean has said things that have definitely been way out of line, and he has been man enough to admit as much. That said, this is only an internet message board, and shouldn't be taken anywhere near as seriously as some people take it! In all honesty, if you don't like a certain thread by a certain poster...don't read it! I skip over many threads on this board that I have no interest in. It's really not that complicated of a concept!

I think most of the people on this board make a cogent point every now and again, and that's saying a lot. I'm personally much more annoyed by the same 5 people who obsess over Dean in every other thread than I am by any of Dean's off-colored remarks. Again, I am not condoning some of the comments he made, because some of them were simply out of line.

As far as the whole "unity" thing goes, I've never really cared about the issue. I was an active poster on BT for many years, and simply decided that site has very little to offer, in terms of any meaningful discussions. And while I agree that both sites certainly have their share of "fluff" posts...this site at least allows you to express an honest opinion, without having to worry about whether or not your thread is a good enough "commercial" for Journey. It just got too frustrating for me to see so many threads locked and deleted over there, and many of them were basically harmless. I think the fact that CJ (someone I've had my differences with) created the "Back Talk" forum seems to be a HUGE step in the right direction for BT and its mods. That to me tells me that they are at least open to allowing members to have open and honest discussions. Not every discussion has to turn into a "flame war", and it's really not the worse thing in the world if people are openly disagreeing with each other on a message board. I'll take that over the daily Augeri prayer threads, ANY day! While I sincerely respect Augeri's fans loyalty to the guy, it's simply not interesting to read the same 5 threads by the same 5 people for 6 straight months with a new "bump" every 10 minutes! If you can't contribute a bit more than that, it might be time to exit stage left and go start an Augeri Fan Club forum! As big of a Perry fan as I am, I didn't spend my time on BT talking about how great Perry is in every single thread!

John from Boston

[Lora]

I can comment here a little - there is absolutely no connection between Deano and band management. Zero.
I know that Dean only got to meet some of the band earlier in this tour.

Deano started a massive ball rolling and I believe he really is trying to put things right.

The events of the last year also gave me a massive migrane and sleepless nights trying to keep this forum open while evetyone had their say about things.

I for one am looking forward to the band's statement and perhaps the beginning of a chance for everyone to move forward.

Sorry, I do NOT believe you and why should I, Andrew? The way you've carried the ball for this little syncophant makes you look just as culpable. In my book, you've not only lost my respect, but a ton of credibility for hooking up with Dean, the Cretin. Carry on, Andrew. You guys make a great pair.

WTF?
I allow everyone to have their say on this board and that includes YOU. I also cannot be here 24/7 to delete posts that were unacceptable.

I do NOT appreciate your tone or your comment.

Hey Andrew. I moderate several fan forums for our clients and I know it's a bitch. I enjoy reading your board. My favorite thread so far is "FINALLY Got Pix from Andrew's Trip to the US." You are such a cutie!

[Rockindeano]

Lora,

You know how much I like you. Would you consider inviting me to one of your Boards? I promise to behave in your Board.

[ArnelRox]

In all honesty, if you don't like a certain thread by a certain poster...don't read it! I skip over many threads on this board that I have no interest in. It's really not that complicated of a concept!

John I mean this most sincerely. Perhaps u should start a thread that gives lessons in how to do just that. It seems many here have no clue & instead hijack those threads & respond to EVERY single post in them, whether they are directed to them or not. Please, go for it.

[Andrew]

Hey Andrew. I moderate several fan forums for our clients and I know it's a bitch. I enjoy reading your board. My favorite thread so far is "FINALLY Got Pix from Andrew's Trip to the US." You are such a cutie!

Haha...that I can appreciate

Thanks!

[ohsherrie]

In all honesty, if you don't like a certain thread by a certain poster...don't read it! I skip over many threads on this board that I have no interest in. It's really not that complicated of a concept!

John I mean this most sincerely. Perhaps u should start a thread that gives lessons in how to do just that. It seems many here have no clue & instead hijack those threads & respond to EVERY single post in them, whether they are directed to them or not. Please, go for it.

Great idea JRox. I don't do the Booze and Sex thread, the Strange and whatever thread or the Now Playing thread because I know that's not what interests me. I don't begrudge anyone else their enjoyment of those threads though. Why not let people enjoy themselves? There's usually something here for everyone and if there's not, start a thread about your interest. There's bound to be someone else interested in it, or wait a day or two. Something will come up that interests you if you're a Journey fan.

[Lora]

Lora,

You know how much I like you. Would you consider inviting me to one of your Boards? I promise to behave in your Board.

hmmmm. Dave Koz and the smooth jazz bunch. Michael Bolton? Melissa Etheridge? Kind of a different crowd.

[NealIsGod]

Lora,

You know how much I like you. Would you consider inviting me to one of your Boards? I promise to behave in your Board.

hmmmm. Dave Koz and the smooth jazz bunch. Michael Bolton? Melissa Etheridge? Kind of a different crowd.

I think Deano would be a big hit in the Melissa Etheridge group.

[Lula]

Lora,

You know how much I like you. Would you consider inviting me to one of your Boards? I promise to behave in your Board.

hmmmm. Dave Koz and the smooth jazz bunch. Michael Bolton? Melissa Etheridge? Kind of a different crowd.

I think Deano would be a big hit in the Melissa Etheridge group.

Bite your tongue, NIG!!

Lora is a kind woman and does not need the added stress .

[Rockindeano]

I love Melissa Etheridge. I love that CD that had Come to My Window, Ruins and others..Was it called "I am?"

Send me the invite Lora. You know you want me there.

[Lula]

I love Melissa Etheridge. I love that CD that had Come to My Window, Ruins and others..Was it called "I am?"

Send me the invite Lora. You know you want me there.

Get off of the computer and get your ass up here!!

[ohsherrie]

Lora,

You know how much I like you. Would you consider inviting me to one of your Boards? I promise to behave in your Board.

hmmmm. Dave Koz and the smooth jazz bunch. Michael Bolton? Melissa Etheridge? Kind of a different crowd.

I think Deano would be a big hit in the Melissa Etheridge group.

Yeah. I've visited that board. I'm a big fan of hers, but I don't think Dean would quite fit in.

[NealIsGod]

I love Melissa Etheridge. I love that CD that had Come to My Window, Ruins and others..Was it called "I am?"

Send me the invite Lora. You know you want me there.

For the LOVE of GOD, invite the boy!!! What's the holdup????



I hope someone can appreciate that.

[Rockindeano]

LB,

I expect an invite. You understand me?!

[ohsherrie]

Hey Dean I think you're being paged. Tell 'em Lula.

[Deb]

I love Melissa Etheridge. I love that CD that had Come to My Window, Ruins and others..Was it called "I am?"

Are you talking about "I am the only one"? IMO, one of her best tunes........actually, reminds me a lot of "Lovin Touchin Squeezin".

[fred_journeyman]

You are sounding more and more like someone else on this board with every post. Deano is far from my bread and butter - he caused more headaches this year than everyone else combined.

And yet you begged for his return on numerous occasions when he did leave.

But I am taking his statement on face value and I ask you to do the same until proven otherwise. Post away, but no more obsessing with Deano please.

Good for you, Andrew. You call it obsessing. I call it viewing Deano's track record.

[fred_journeyman]

Unity, community, as one stand together.
To die for the system is as light as a feather.
But if you live for the people, and you live for today
then your fears disappear and your worries go away.
Heaven & hell are just a mental-state,
we live and die by our choices, We create our own fate.
If you walk the path of love then you’ll know what I mean,
Because heaven is much closer than it may seem.

I just lost my lunch...thanks AR.

[fred_journeyman]

Hey, let's not forget that a whopping 22 people, or 44% think Deano is full of shit, and only a few of them have likely posted here. But I'M the one on a crusade, huh Andrew? And pigs fly too...

Shut up already.

Why, the truth hurts, Andrew? If I'm on a crusade, then what was _____ on when he went after Augeri?

[fred_journeyman]

Why are u so reluctant to try and have a peace for the two boards..JUST B/C DEAN ASKED???....Suppose it was Andrew who asked? then would u believe it? Suppose it was one of the others that u hold so dear? It is still a good idea no mater who asked us to try....

Oh, excuse me, are you talking to me now? Gosh, what an honor. I have absolutely NO problem with BT - none. The only "problem" I have is based on someone's track record that this "proclamation" will not last. I'm not as gullible as some here.

[fred_journeyman]

You must have been such a cool kid.

Duh, GEE Tennessee, you're just a laugh riot.

Thanks! Coming from you, that means a lot! I would be worried if you liked me. Why do you continue to spend so much time in here, every day, if you think so badly of everyone?

I don't think badly of everyone, just assholes like yourself who think that when you rag on someone, it is somehow "valuable." I'm giving what you usually give.

Yet you keep responding to them. Dumbass.

I'm hoping against hope that your brain will find a way to connect to its cerebellum. I'm thinking it's a lost cause.

[ArnelRox]

Fred read my lips:

SHUT THE FUCK UP

Was that clear enough for u?

[L~L~L]

So this peace offering is ONLY for BT and NOT the Perry fans?

[Andrew]

So this peace offering is ONLY for BT and NOT the Perry fans?

It is for ALL.

[Deb]

Why are u so reluctant to try and have a peace for the two boards..JUST B/C DEAN ASKED???....Suppose it was Andrew who asked? then would u believe it? Suppose it was one of the others that u hold so dear? It is still a good idea no mater who asked us to try....

Oh, excuse me, are you talking to me now? Gosh, what an honor. I have absolutely NO problem with BT - none. The only "problem" I have is based on someone's track record that this "proclamation" will not last. I'm not as gullible as some here.

So Fred, why not sit back and take a wait and see approach then. If you are proven right....you can come back with a great big ole I TOLD YA SO! But why try to derail this already?

[junky]

The only "problem" I have is based on someone's track record that this "proclamation" will not last. I'm not as gullible as some here.

I'm not gullible either.

The problem is, you and a few others keep baiting him as you are doing right now.

Deano is making an effort here, maybe you should do the same.

You asked for a change of tone on the board, you asked for Deano to change.

You got what you wanted and you're still complaining.

If Deano's proclamation doesn't last because of your baiting, then, really, it's your own fault.