OT: 22 dead in Va. Tech shooting rampage

[Behshad]

It really pisses me of when we have people like you serving our country. I take pride in people who put their heart and soul in protecting our country, but they cant all be like you . At least I hope theyre not.

As far as I know, Stu has served honorably. I can't believe someone here would say something this stupid, regardless of what side of the political fence you're on.

Honroably!? with the comments he made? This isnt about what side of politics fence we are on. This is who we are. I also used to think that Stu was a hero , but he just brought himself down by those comments he made. Thats why I was not only pissed but also disspointed and surprised at the same time.

Unless you have evidence that he didn't serve honorably, your comments are disgraceful.

JUST THE FACT THAT HE SAID AMERICAN LIVES ARE WORTH MORE THAN IRAQIS is enough for me.

They are. PERIOD. I joined the Marines to protect AMERICAN LIVES, property and freedoms which are worth more to me than any Iraqi life. Ask a veteran of WW2 or Korea or Vietnam if they think an American life is worth more than the life of their enemies and see what answer you get.
Now if you want to call me dishonorable then do it to my face, I will be in Virgina for the show in May. And at LEAST I had the balls to go and serve my country. Have you?

If its all about having the balls to just go kill people with your attitude, Im glad to say no, and I will never have the balls to sink that low to put down people just cause they were born in a different part of the world.
And when it comes to the Gulf war, you didnt go there to protect AMERICAN lives,,,, you went there to protect Kuwaiti peoples lives from Saddam. Which in this case means you were there, risking your own american life, for people of Kuwait? so do you think that their lives are worth more than american peoples!?
Bottom line is, you cant grade peoples lives based on their origin. there are low lives in every continent/country/state/city/neighbourhood.

No I was protecting American interests, in this case the sovereignty of the Kuwaiti people. But I joined to protect American lives and your rights. It's not about having the balls to kill people you idiot. NO SANE person ever wants to kill another person, it haunts you for the rest of your life. But when it comes down to it, I care more about 1 American life than I care about 100 lives from any other country because THIS IS MY COUNTRY and YOU and EVERYONE ELSE are my people and it is my DUTY.

First of , youre the idiot not me. Just because you had the balls to go over there and kill people over oil which you just admited, doesnt make you a better person than me. Second, as much as you brag about your duty and serving your country, it just makes it seem like you get the most pleasure from just the attention. You honestly think that joining the marines/airforce/army is the only way to SERVE this country?
Out of respect for Carl, I will end this meaningsless discussion with you, cause we'll never see things eye to eye. As long as you think that peoples lives are valued based on geographical locations, you will never make any sense to me, ever.

[*Laura]

But perhaps, if nothing else, we could look inward and try to be better people ourselves. Sometimes it's the smallest act of kindness that does the most good. I have very little control of the larger scope of events in this world (which, as we all know, can be monumentally frustrating in times like these) but I DO have control over what I do and how I behave. Perhaps I can show forgiveness where I didn't before, or try not to belittle someone with a different belief system, or help someone less fortunate. Is this gonna reverse this tragedy and bring these people back to life? No, but maybe it just MIGHT help make the world a better place for mine and your children to grow up in.

I can only agree with this.Wholeheartedly.
There are a lot of people who try to be better persons everyday,try to forgive,respect and do everything they can to help those in need....
However,this world is so crappy sometimes.You do good and get bad in return.
It's just like driving.You respect the signs and drive carefully,yet someone drinks and drives and hits you.

Sorry,just rambling...I'm more interested in the human/spiritual aspects of the life than politics...

[conversationpc]

That's very Old Testament of you, Dave.

I can understand the desire for vengeance - but equally I feel uncomfortable with the State sinking to the level of a mobster.

There's nothing wrong with inflicting punishment for a crime. There nothing "mobster-ish" about it. That's the way it's supposed to work. You commit a crime. You get punished for it. It has nothing to do with the Old Testament, New Testament, or whatever testament.

BTW, that first comment is pretty unnecessary.

[RossValoryRocks]

First of , youre the idiot not me. Just because you had the balls to go over there and kill people over oil which you just admited, doesnt make you a better person than me. Second, as much as you brag about your duty and serving your country, it just makes it seem like you get the most pleasure from just the attention. You honestly think that joining the marines/airforce/army is the only way to SERVE this country?
Out of respect for Carl, I will end this meaningsless discussion with you, cause we'll never see things eye to eye. As long as you think that peoples lives are valued based on geographical locations, you will never make any sense to me, ever.

First I don't value lives based on geographic location...I just value American lives MORE than any other. As any American should. I didn't have the balls to go over idiot, I was ORDERED to do so, I didn't exactly have a choice, but had the choice be given I would have gone because it was the RIGHT thing to do. The balls I have are in stepping up and serving my country, and NO it isn't the only way to serve, but it is the most HONORABLE because a person who joins our military does so with the knowledge that they may be called upon to sacrafice their lives. Again WHAT HAVE YOU DONE to serve? ANYTHING? Peace Corps?? ANYTHING? I don't crave attention, others comment made me respond. I am VERY proud of my service though. It's a very small group, statistically speaking who serve in our armed forces.
You want to sit in judgement and that's FINE just remember that I, and many others like me served and are serving to ensure you will always have that you have that right to exercise.

[Behshad]

First of , youre the idiot not me. Just because you had the balls to go over there and kill people over oil which you just admited, doesnt make you a better person than me. Second, as much as you brag about your duty and serving your country, it just makes it seem like you get the most pleasure from just the attention. You honestly think that joining the marines/airforce/army is the only way to SERVE this country?
Out of respect for Carl, I will end this meaningsless discussion with you, cause we'll never see things eye to eye. As long as you think that peoples lives are valued based on geographical locations, you will never make any sense to me, ever.

First I don't value lives based on geographic location...I just value American lives MORE than any other. As any American should. I didn't have the balls to go over idiot, I was ORDERED to do so, I didn't exactly have a choice, but had the choice be given I would have gone because it was the RIGHT thing to do. The balls I have are in stepping up and serving my country, and NO it isn't the only way to serve, but it is the most HONORABLE because a person who joins our military does so with the knowledge that they may be called upon to sacrafice their lives. Again WHAT HAVE YOU DONE to serve? ANYTHING? Peace Corps?? ANYTHING?
You want to sit in judgement and that's FINE just remember that I, and many other like me served to that you have that right to exercise.

You plain and simple want to brag about it, thats all. I serve daily by working 12 hours a day, and by being involved in local charities and even donations to our troops. I dont agree with the war, but our troops didnt have a choice, our leader did. I support them because theyre doing their jobs.
On another note, you dont think a doctor's work saving people's lives is as honrobale? you dont think a teacher teaching our kids right from wrong (which in your case didnt help) is honorable? Any and every person that put their heart and soul in this country, wether its a farmer working from dawn till dusk, or the 16 year old kid that biggie sizes your fries, or the doctor at your local hospital, theyre all contributing in their way to this countries existence. But of course you think YOUR life is worth more than them, cause YOU are the most honorable one of them all.
As I told you before, we wont get anywhere with this, cause you have your way of thinking and I have my own.

[nutz4Neal]

Giving up the right to keep and bear arms is assinine, because once a right it given up, or in this case diminished, it is all but impossible to get back. And the CRIMINALS will STILL be able to get firearms. All you do is keep the upright and honest citizens from being able to protect themselves and their families.

I agree with this 100%.

Count me in too..100% agree. That's what criminals do, they break the law, all of them. The bad guys will ALWAYS have the weapons.

Back to topic..My thoughts and prayers go out to these students and their families. I can't imagine what they must be going through both physically and mentally..it will be a long time healing.

[Red13JoePa]

What a jackass.
Prayers to the families of all involved.

[*Laura]

The killer was identified.Cho Seung-Hui,a 23 year old student from South Korea.Looks like he was an alien resident.A loner...Not many info on him.

I hope this will not turn into a political mess.

Prayers to the families going out...So,so sad.

[RossValoryRocks]

First of , youre the idiot not me. Just because you had the balls to go over there and kill people over oil which you just admited, doesnt make you a better person than me. Second, as much as you brag about your duty and serving your country, it just makes it seem like you get the most pleasure from just the attention. You honestly think that joining the marines/airforce/army is the only way to SERVE this country?
Out of respect for Carl, I will end this meaningsless discussion with you, cause we'll never see things eye to eye. As long as you think that peoples lives are valued based on geographical locations, you will never make any sense to me, ever.

First I don't value lives based on geographic location...I just value American lives MORE than any other. As any American should. I didn't have the balls to go over idiot, I was ORDERED to do so, I didn't exactly have a choice, but had the choice be given I would have gone because it was the RIGHT thing to do. The balls I have are in stepping up and serving my country, and NO it isn't the only way to serve, but it is the most HONORABLE because a person who joins our military does so with the knowledge that they may be called upon to sacrafice their lives. Again WHAT HAVE YOU DONE to serve? ANYTHING? Peace Corps?? ANYTHING?
You want to sit in judgement and that's FINE just remember that I, and many other like me served to that you have that right to exercise.

You plain and simple want to brag about it, thats all. I serve daily by working 12 hours a day, and by being involved in local charities and even donations to our troops. I dont agree with the war, but our troops didnt have a choice, our leader did. I support them because theyre doing their jobs.
On another note, you dont think a doctor's work saving people's lives is as honrobale? you dont think a teacher teaching our kids right from wrong (which in your case didnt help) is honorable? Any and every person that put their heart and soul in this country, wether its a farmer working from dawn till dusk, or the 16 year old kid that biggie sizes your fries, or the doctor at your local hospital, theyre all contributing in their way to this countries existence. But of course you think YOUR life is worth more than them, cause YOU are the most honorable one of them all.
As I told you before, we wont get anywhere with this, cause you have your way of thinking and I have my own.

I do BRAG about serving my country, it was an honor to do so, and I am very proud to have done so. To quote a fantastic movie..."We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline."

You said you used to think of me as a hero, well in our last exchange on MR you did the same thing you are doing now: Taking a run at me because I was a member of the US Military. It won't work. You lie and lie and lie, and twist my words to suit your agenda. I know where your sympathies lie however, and so does anyone with an ounce of intelligence.

Having a nomral job isn't serving your country, it's having a job. Being involved with local charities and donating to our troops is serving your country and I applaud you for it. But quit trying to put words in my mouth I never said or came close to saying that being a doctor, or a farmer, or any profession isn't honorable. You insinuate I mean something that I don't. Like the geographic thing, I never said, you insinuated or some how derived that it but it just not true.

Look I know you come from middle-eastern roots, Iranian via Sweden if I remeber correctly, I also know what you are trying to do by attempting to smear me. I know you feel I am somehow ripping on your family, your people or faith or what have you. But this is your country now too, or it should be. The lives of your fellow citizens her in the USA SHOULD be worth more than the lives of anyone else.

[Behshad]

First of , youre the idiot not me. Just because you had the balls to go over there and kill people over oil which you just admited, doesnt make you a better person than me. Second, as much as you brag about your duty and serving your country, it just makes it seem like you get the most pleasure from just the attention. You honestly think that joining the marines/airforce/army is the only way to SERVE this country?
Out of respect for Carl, I will end this meaningsless discussion with you, cause we'll never see things eye to eye. As long as you think that peoples lives are valued based on geographical locations, you will never make any sense to me, ever.

First I don't value lives based on geographic location...I just value American lives MORE than any other. As any American should. I didn't have the balls to go over idiot, I was ORDERED to do so, I didn't exactly have a choice, but had the choice be given I would have gone because it was the RIGHT thing to do. The balls I have are in stepping up and serving my country, and NO it isn't the only way to serve, but it is the most HONORABLE because a person who joins our military does so with the knowledge that they may be called upon to sacrafice their lives. Again WHAT HAVE YOU DONE to serve? ANYTHING? Peace Corps?? ANYTHING?
You want to sit in judgement and that's FINE just remember that I, and many other like me served to that you have that right to exercise.

You plain and simple want to brag about it, thats all. I serve daily by working 12 hours a day, and by being involved in local charities and even donations to our troops. I dont agree with the war, but our troops didnt have a choice, our leader did. I support them because theyre doing their jobs.
On another note, you dont think a doctor's work saving people's lives is as honrobale? you dont think a teacher teaching our kids right from wrong (which in your case didnt help) is honorable? Any and every person that put their heart and soul in this country, wether its a farmer working from dawn till dusk, or the 16 year old kid that biggie sizes your fries, or the doctor at your local hospital, theyre all contributing in their way to this countries existence. But of course you think YOUR life is worth more than them, cause YOU are the most honorable one of them all.
As I told you before, we wont get anywhere with this, cause you have your way of thinking and I have my own.

I do BRAG about serving my country, it was an honor to do so, and I am very proud to have done so. To quote a fantastic movie..."We use words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent defending something. You use 'em as a punchline."

You said you used to think of me as a hero, well in our last exchange on MR you did the same thing you are doing now: Taking a run at me because I was a member of the US Military. It won't work. You lie and lie and lie, and twist my words to suit your agenda. I know where your sympathies lie however, and so does anyone with an ounce of intelligence.

Having a nomral job isn't serving your country, it's having a job. Being involved with local charities and donating to our troops is serving your country and I applaud you for it. But quit trying to put words in my mouth I never said or came close to saying that being a doctor, or a farmer, or any profession isn't honorable. You insinuate I mean something that I don't. Like the geographic thing, I never said, you insinuated or some how derived that it but it just not true.
Look I know you come from middle-eastern roots, Iranian via Sweden if I remeber correctly, I also know what you are trying to do by attempting to smear me. I know you feel I am somehow ripping on your family, your people or faith or what have you. But this is your country now too, or it should be. The lives of your fellow citizens her in the USA SHOULD be worth more than the lives of anyone else.

I guess you still wanna argure, well bring it on.
I didnt put any fucking words in your mouth , YOU DID!! When you say that Iraqi peoples lives are worth less to you, what the fuck does that mean!?
and YOU said that you think YOUR JOB IS THE MOST HONORABLE.... fucking use that scroll botton and check and see WHAT you wrote...
if anyone is tryin to twist things around its YOU.
You have no idea who i am and what Ive been involved in, you just assume. You dont know fucking shit about my faith and belives, you just think you do. I have nothing against people in the military, but I do against YOU as a person. I take a run at you because of who you are, not because you served in the military! You use the military in your favor just to take make yourself look like a hero, but youre not. I do see your stupid comments as an insult towards HUMAN BEINGS, not my friends or families. You have this hate inside you towards middle-easterns, and you use that against anyone with their roots from their, just like you did the last time. You give the world the wrong picture of TRUE AMERICANS... but lemme guess,, you dont give a shit what the rest of the world thinks,,, they can all die and burn in hell for all you care , cause theyre not americans.
You have mentioned it more than ONCE that people's lives have different values, not because of who they are, but whether theyre American or not.

[conversationpc]

This thread has gone down the wrong road, myself included. Out of respect to the original intent of this thread, let's either take this to PM or start a new thread. Can we at least agree on that?

On another note, I saw firsthand testimony on CNN from a student who helped barricade a classroom door at Virginia Tech from the killer. The guy broke down on camera. I can't imagine how those students involved in this are feeling.

[RossValoryRocks]

I guess you still wanna argure, well bring it on.
I didnt put any fucking words in your mouth , YOU DID!! When you say that Iraqi peoples lives are worth less to you, what the fuck does that mean!?
and YOU said that you think YOUR JOB IS THE MOST HONORABLE.... fucking use that scroll botton and check and see WHAT you wrote...
if anyone is tryin to twist things around its YOU.
You have no idea who i am and what Ive been involved in, you just assume. You dont know fucking shit about my faith and belives, you just think you do. I have nothing against people in the military, but I do against YOU as a person. I take a run at you because of who you are, not because you served in the military! You use the military in your favor just to take make yourself look like a hero, but youre not. I do see your stupid comments as an insult towards HUMAN BEINGS, not my friends or families. You have this hate inside you towards middle-easterns, and you use that against anyone with their roots from their, just like you did the last time. You give the world the wrong picture of TRUE AMERICANS... but lemme guess,, you dont give a shit what the rest of the world thinks,,, they can all die and burn in hell for all you care , cause theyre not americans.
You have mentioned it more than ONCE that people's lives have different values, not because of who they are, but whether theyre American or not.

Yup...I hate all Middle-Easterners I do have a suspcious nature toward middle-easterners and muslims though, because...GASP...it was young middle-eastern muslims that ATTACKED MY FUCKING COUNTRY.

And I am no hero, never claimed to be. I just served my country.

I care about ALL people to an extent, I don't like to see the innocent suffer, but I believe that my fellow Americans lives are worth more, because they are my fellow countrymen. You are right about ONE thing though, I don't CARE what the rest of the world thinks.

[Lady Luck]

On another note, I saw firsthand testimony on CNN from a student who helped barricade a classroom door at Virginia Tech from the killer. The guy broke down on camera. I can't imagine how those students involved in this are feeling.

I watched NBC World News last night and they had 2 students on there talking about it. Might have been the same student(s) you saw on CNN. They were in German class when the shooter came in. They said the guy went through one clip, then reloaded. One of the students was shot in the arm, went to the hospital, and came back and talked on the news broadcast. The one that was shot, his name was Tres (pronounced Tray)...can't remember the other guy's name. They said the shooter left and that's when a few of them barricaded the door, but the shooter tried to get back in. They said he was shooting through the door.

I can't imagine how they're feeling either. The whole thing is so sad.

[Behshad]

I guess you still wanna argure, well bring it on.
I didnt put any fucking words in your mouth , YOU DID!! When you say that Iraqi peoples lives are worth less to you, what the fuck does that mean!?
and YOU said that you think YOUR JOB IS THE MOST HONORABLE.... fucking use that scroll botton and check and see WHAT you wrote...
if anyone is tryin to twist things around its YOU.
You have no idea who i am and what Ive been involved in, you just assume. You dont know fucking shit about my faith and belives, you just think you do. I have nothing against people in the military, but I do against YOU as a person. I take a run at you because of who you are, not because you served in the military! You use the military in your favor just to take make yourself look like a hero, but youre not. I do see your stupid comments as an insult towards HUMAN BEINGS, not my friends or families. You have this hate inside you towards middle-easterns, and you use that against anyone with their roots from their, just like you did the last time. You give the world the wrong picture of TRUE AMERICANS... but lemme guess,, you dont give a shit what the rest of the world thinks,,, they can all die and burn in hell for all you care , cause theyre not americans.
You have mentioned it more than ONCE that people's lives have different values, not because of who they are, but whether theyre American or not.

Yup...I hate all Middle-Easterners I do have a suspcious nature toward middle-easterners and muslims though, because...GASP...it was young middle-eastern muslims that ATTACKED MY FUCKING COUNTRY.

And I am no hero, never claimed to be. I just served my country.

I care about ALL people to an extent, I don't like to see the innocent suffer, but I believe that my fellow Americans lives are worth more, because they are my fellow countrymen. You are right about ONE thing though, I don't CARE what the rest of the world thinks.

Dude, believe me, I know where your hate comes from, but is it gonna solve any problems? No.
If you gonna have hates towards ALL middle easterns, then youre as bad as the fanatic muslims that hate us.
Its always easy to judge and hate, but a lot harder to SOLVE problems. Unless you start using common sense and be more open minded and less hatefull, you wont be a part of the solution, no matter how many medals of honor you receive.

Those middles easterns who attacked us are a minority of fanatic muslims. They also justify their attacks by saying that they were gettin back at us for the times we have attacked them. and it could (and will ) go back and forth,,, and at the end of the day it wont solve any problems and will only result in lives lost,,, yes even american lives.
Even using YOUR theory, look at Iraq. Why is it even worth it to sacrifce our sons and daughters lives for freedom and saftey of the people that dont even appreciate it?

[treetopovskaya]

Too many guns - period.

Here in Tasmania we had the Port Arthur Massacre some 10 years back. 36 dead at the hands of one lunatic.

Within weeks we had the toughest gun laws in the western world implimented and nothing of the sort has happened anywhere in Australia since.

Need to send a copy of that law to the assholes in this country.

And there ya go.

The law would never get passed though Chief because the gun lobby spends so much money to make sure it doesn't.

I'm not a fan of guns and would never own one, but it IS in the constitution that you have a right to carry one. On another note, this guy is a Chinese national here on a student visa. While we're banning guns, why not ban student visas too? the gun is just a tool -- it is the individual who makes the decision to make it lethal. Someone with this guy's mentality could have run over a crowd of people too. Crazy people and criminals do not obey gun laws.

ban student visas? this didn't happen because the guy was korean. it could have been anyone... from anywhere. jesus.

my heart and prayers are with the family of all the victims... i even feel really sad for the shooters family. so sad. }:C((

[Aja]

I actually agree with Stu here, 100%.

My question is this; Why was God asleep at the wheel today? God works in mysterious ways? Well fuck him. He works about as much as W.... Always at the Ranch.

Why the Hell was this allowed to happen?

Bring on the flames..I believe in God, but sometimes, a bit more often lately, I wonder why the Hell I do?

Well.........God saved Journey, that's got to count for something!

[conversationpc]

Dude, believe me, I know where your hate comes from, but is it gonna solve any problems? No.
If you gonna have hates towards ALL middle easterns, then youre as bad as the fanatic muslims that hate us.
Its always easy to judge and hate, but a lot harder to SOLVE problems. Unless you start using common sense and be more open minded and less hatefull, you wont be a part of the solution, no matter how many medals of honor you receive.

Those middles easterns who attacked us are a minority of fanatic muslims. They also justify their attacks by saying that they were gettin back at us for the times we have attacked them. and it could (and will ) go back and forth,,, and at the end of the day it wont solve any problems and will only result in lives lost,,, yes even american lives.
Even using YOUR theory, look at Iraq. Why is it even worth it to sacrifce our sons and daughters lives for freedom and saftey of the people that dont even appreciate it?

Behshad, when Stu said "Yup...I hate all Middle-Easterners ", he was being facetious. Note the rolling eyes.

[Barb]

Too many guns - period.

Here in Tasmania we had the Port Arthur Massacre some 10 years back. 36 dead at the hands of one lunatic.

Within weeks we had the toughest gun laws in the western world implimented and nothing of the sort has happened anywhere in Australia since.

Need to send a copy of that law to the assholes in this country.

And there ya go.

The law would never get passed though Chief because the gun lobby spends so much money to make sure it doesn't.

I'm not a fan of guns and would never own one, but it IS in the constitution that you have a right to carry one. On another note, this guy is a Chinese national here on a student visa. While we're banning guns, why not ban student visas too? the gun is just a tool -- it is the individual who makes the decision to make it lethal. Someone with this guy's mentality could have run over a crowd of people too. Crazy people and criminals do not obey gun laws.

ban student visas? this didn't happen because the guy was korean. it could have been anyone... from anywhere. jesus.

my heart and prayers are with the family of all the victims... i even feel really sad for the shooters family. so sad. }:C((

Yes, I know that. I was being facetious because banning student visas makes about as much sense as banning guns.

[whocares]

way to fuck up another thread, guys!

Seriously you holier than thou fucks need to take a step back and look in the mirror.

[KCfla]

* in her best "mommy" voice*

Behshad? RVR? (Am I missing anyone else?)

* puts hands out and points to the corners of the room*

SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!

(Gods- I can't believe I'm doing this but.....)

This thread NOT ABOUT THE MIDDLE EAST! IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MILITARY!

This thread is about 32 young college students that we shot down in the prime of their lives, by some
whacko lunatic!

Pray for their families. Pray for the other students who will live with what they saw everyday for the rest of their lives!


But If you two want to hack at each other- take it to PM- or better yet- start a new thread. There are some of us that are not interested it watching you guys beat each other up.

* takes off mommy hat*

HARUMPFT!

[treetopovskaya]

Too many guns - period.

Here in Tasmania we had the Port Arthur Massacre some 10 years back. 36 dead at the hands of one lunatic.

Within weeks we had the toughest gun laws in the western world implimented and nothing of the sort has happened anywhere in Australia since.

Need to send a copy of that law to the assholes in this country.

And there ya go.

The law would never get passed though Chief because the gun lobby spends so much money to make sure it doesn't.

I'm not a fan of guns and would never own one, but it IS in the constitution that you have a right to carry one. On another note, this guy is a Chinese national here on a student visa. While we're banning guns, why not ban student visas too? the gun is just a tool -- it is the individual who makes the decision to make it lethal. Someone with this guy's mentality could have run over a crowd of people too. Crazy people and criminals do not obey gun laws.

ban student visas? this didn't happen because the guy was korean. it could have been anyone... from anywhere. jesus.

my heart and prayers are with the family of all the victims... i even feel really sad for the shooters family. so sad. }:C((

Yes, I know that. I was being facetious because banning student visas makes about as much sense as banning guns.

i totally misread your post. sorry barb! }:C)

[Red13JoePa]

way to fuck up another thread, guys!

Seriously you holier than thou fucks need to take a step back and look in the mirror.

AAAAHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaa

funniest post of the day so far.

And I say that full well liking all HTT parties involved.

WHAT a dustup.

[conversationpc]

way to fuck up another thread, guys!

Seriously you holier than thou fucks need to take a step back and look in the mirror.

AAAAHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaa

funniest post of the day so far.

And I say that full well liking all HTT parties involved.

WHAT a dustup.

HTT = ?

[Behshad]

way to fuck up another thread, guys!

Seriously you holier than thou fucks need to take a step back and look in the mirror.

AAAAHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaa

funniest post of the day so far.

And I say that full well liking all HTT parties involved.

WHAT a dustup.

HTT = ?

I know, I was wondering the same thing,,,,,, "Harley Tech Talk" ? "Home Textile Today"? " High Tech Trade"?

[conversationpc]

way to fuck up another thread, guys!

Seriously you holier than thou fucks need to take a step back and look in the mirror.

AAAAHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaa

funniest post of the day so far.

And I say that full well liking all HTT parties involved.

WHAT a dustup.

HTT = ?

I know, I was wondering the same thing,,,,,, "Harley Tech Talk" ? "Home Textile Today"? " High Tech Trade"?

Head to Toe
Here to There
Something to do with "nappy headed hoes"???

[Behshad]

way to fuck up another thread, guys!

Seriously you holier than thou fucks need to take a step back and look in the mirror.

AAAAHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaa

funniest post of the day so far.

And I say that full well liking all HTT parties involved.

WHAT a dustup.

HTT = ?

I know, I was wondering the same thing,,,,,, "Harley Tech Talk" ? "Home Textile Today"? " High Tech Trade"?

Head to Toe
Here to There
Something to do with "nappy headed hoes"???

[CatEyes]

HTT = "Hand The Tylenol" (to Andrew, of course)

Cat

[Carlitto H@kk]

way to fuck up another thread, guys!

Seriously you holier than thou fucks need to take a step back and look in the mirror.

AAAAHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaa

funniest post of the day so far.

And I say that full well liking all HTT parties involved.

WHAT a dustup.

HTT = ?

"Holier Than Thou"...

God, youy are all a bunch of idiots and NHHs!!!

Behshad and Stu, y'all need to just shut the fuck up already!
Your BOTH great people arguing over silly misunderstandings.
I love both you guys, your exchanges in this thread have had me
choking on my lunch but, C'mon guys.

B, you know Stu ain't that narrow-minded and you should understand that
most folks that have served, especially Jar-Head-Pukes like Stu ,
are VERY proud of what they accomplished in their careers.
Don't read into things that just aren't there.
Stu has NEVER bragged about serving in the military, he's just proud.

And Stu... I love ya, man. And I fully understand your sentiment on the
importance of American lives as opposed to the rest of the world.
But that's coming from 2 red-blooded Americans here.
We also need to remember that this insanely wonderful Journey Board has
united fans of all kinds of ethnic backgrounds and, if we are the 'family' we claim to
be (dysfunctional to the extreme, no doubt!)
then we gotta respect everyone's views as best we can...
Behshad is a good guy. You 2 are just alittle too pasionate about things to get along sometimes

God, I am just in a very happy, peaceful mood today and just want to spread that good vibe to everyone

And finally, anyone that wants to make this tragic event a political issue
with 'foriegners' or 'immigrants' is a serious Ass-Clown!
The guy has been a citizen since he was 8 years-old...

[conversationpc]

"Holier Than Thou"...

God, youy are all a bunch of idiots NHHs!!!

Can I say, DUHHH!!!!!

Behshad and Stu, y'all need to just shut the fuck up already!
Your BOTH great people arguing over silly misunderstandings.
I love both you guys, your exchanges in this thread have had me
choking on my lunch but, C'mon guys.

B, you know Stu ain't that narrow-minded and you should understand that
most folks that have served, especially Jar-Head-Pukes like Stu ,
are VERY proud of what they accomplished in their careers.
Don't read into things that just aren't there.

And Stu... I love ya, man. And I fully understand your sentiment on the
importance of American lives as opposed to the rest of the world.
But that's coming from 2 red-blooded Americans here.
We also need to remember that this insanely wonderful Journey Board has
united fans of all kinds of ethnic backgrounds and, if we are the 'family' we claim to
be (dysfunctional to the extreme, no doubt!)
then we gotta respect everyone's views as best we can...

Well said.

[Behshad]

way to fuck up another thread, guys!

Seriously you holier than thou fucks need to take a step back and look in the mirror.

AAAAHHHHHHHHAaaaaaaaa

funniest post of the day so far.

And I say that full well liking all HTT parties involved.

WHAT a dustup.

HTT = ?

"Holier Than Thou"...

God, youy are all a bunch of idiots NHHs!!!

Behshad and Stu, y'all need to just shut the fuck up already!
Your BOTH great people arguing over silly misunderstandings.
I love both you guys, your exchanges in this thread have had me
choking on my lunch but, C'mon guys.

B, you know Stu ain't that narrow-minded and you should understand that
most folks that have served, especially Jar-Head-Pukes like Stu ,
are VERY proud of what they accomplished in their careers.
Don't read into things that just aren't there.

And Stu... I love ya, man. And I fully understand your sentiment on the
importance of American lives as opposed to the rest of the world.
But that's coming from 2 red-blooded Americans here.
We also need to remember that this insanely wonderful Journey Board has
united fans of all kinds of ethnic backgrounds and, if we are the 'family' we claim to
be (dysfunctional to the extreme, no doubt!)
then we gotta respect everyone's views as best we can...

God, I am just in a very appy, peaceful mood today and just want to spread that good vibe to everyone

And finally, anyone that wants to make this tragic event a political issue
with 'foriegners' or 'immigrants' is a serious Ass-Clown!
The guy has been a citizen since he was 8 years-old...

Carl, as usual youre right.
I take pride and honor in knowing YOU Carl and you know that I love you like my own brother.
Still I think Stu and I will have difficulties to see things from the same angle.
Lets move on and send prayers and patience to the families of the victims.
GOD BLESS YOU, AMERICA AND THE REST OF THE WORLD.