A brand new song!

[heardonthestreet]

4. Resolving The Status Of The Millions Of Illegal Immigrants Already In The Country

The Administration Is Working With Democrats And Republicans To Find A Practical Answer That Lies Between Granting Automatic American Citizenship To Every Illegal Immigrant And Deporting Every Illegal Immigrant.

The President Opposes Amnesty. Amnesty is the forgiveness of an offense without penalty. It should not be given to people who entered our country illegally.


Illegal Immigrants Who Have Roots In Our Country And Want To Stay Should Have To Pay A Meaningful Penalty For Breaking The Law, Pay Their Taxes, Learn English, And Work In A Job For A Number Of Years. People who meet a reasonable number of conditions and pay a penalty of time and money should be able to apply for citizenship, but approval would not be automatic, and they will have to wait in line behind those who played by the rules and followed the law.







I know what you're saying, St. John. The above is part of the new reform bill and it is perplexing. The line for those who played by the rules and followed the law, must be limitless, meanwhile the illegals with roots, who must be at a job for a number of years,who no doubt, if they have roots, have evaded taxes for some time,.........................

Scratching head????????????

My Grandfather came to this country first, to make a home for my Grandmother and Mother. He had to establish himself first as was required.

The solution is HARSH reform, not a life style of it's own such as above mentioned. Communities of illegal aliens using the back door while the line out front is limitless.

[PROPERRY]

What a load of shit! We went from a brand spanking new song to wishing aids to sending illegal aliens to blah blah blah. I and many others can do without the verbal abuse and the shit that flows through here on a daily basis. Leave that shit to yourself! Just an FYI without illegals you would have a hole to shit on a freeway to drive on, a home to live in the very food you eat picked. I like to se your get your ass up and go pick the fields for a measly dollar amount! Get your heads out of your ass and stop whining about shit you absolutely can't do shit about. Have a nice day. I love the UK BTW!



Is Journey gonna fucking sing a new song or not?

So true L~L~L~!

NO need to be SO mean towards people here from other countries, obvisiously they are here because they like Journey, and want to be a part of the conversation. I wonder when we will get to hear Journey's new song? I like the the title of it.

[Saint John]

4. Resolving The Status Of The Millions Of Illegal Immigrants Already In The Country

The Administration Is Working With Democrats And Republicans To Find A Practical Answer That Lies Between Granting Automatic American Citizenship To Every Illegal Immigrant And Deporting Every Illegal Immigrant.

The President Opposes Amnesty. Amnesty is the forgiveness of an offense without penalty. It should not be given to people who entered our country illegally.


Illegal Immigrants Who Have Roots In Our Country And Want To Stay Should Have To Pay A Meaningful Penalty For Breaking The Law, Pay Their Taxes, Learn English, And Work In A Job For A Number Of Years. People who meet a reasonable number of conditions and pay a penalty of time and money should be able to apply for citizenship, but approval would not be automatic, and they will have to wait in line behind those who played by the rules and followed the law.







I know what you're saying, St. John. The above is part of the new reform bill and it is perplexing. The line for those who played by the rules and followed the law, must be limitless, meanwhile the illegals with roots, who must be at a job for a number of years,who no doubt, if they have roots, have evaded taxes for some time,.........................

Scratching head????????????

My Grandfather came to this country first, to make a home for my Grandmother and Mother. He had to establish himself first as was required.

The solution is HARSH reform, not a life style of it's own such as above mentioned. Communities of illegal aliens using the back door while the line out front is limitless.

Good post, HOTS. I agree that the solution will not be easy. ALL administrations have dropped the ball on this. My MAIN fear is that Arab terrorists could be flooding over the Mexican border. Both tend to have dark hair and are a bit darker complected than say, Polish or Irish people.

[heardonthestreet]

4. Resolving The Status Of The Millions Of Illegal Immigrants Already In The Country

The Administration Is Working With Democrats And Republicans To Find A Practical Answer That Lies Between Granting Automatic American Citizenship To Every Illegal Immigrant And Deporting Every Illegal Immigrant.

The President Opposes Amnesty. Amnesty is the forgiveness of an offense without penalty. It should not be given to people who entered our country illegally.


Illegal Immigrants Who Have Roots In Our Country And Want To Stay Should Have To Pay A Meaningful Penalty For Breaking The Law, Pay Their Taxes, Learn English, And Work In A Job For A Number Of Years. People who meet a reasonable number of conditions and pay a penalty of time and money should be able to apply for citizenship, but approval would not be automatic, and they will have to wait in line behind those who played by the rules and followed the law.







I know what you're saying, St. John. The above is part of the new reform bill and it is perplexing. The line for those who played by the rules and followed the law, must be limitless, meanwhile the illegals with roots, who must be at a job for a number of years,who no doubt, if they have roots, have evaded taxes for some time,.........................

Scratching head????????????

My Grandfather came to this country first, to make a home for my Grandmother and Mother. He had to establish himself first as was required.

The solution is HARSH reform, not a life style of it's own such as above mentioned. Communities of illegal aliens using the back door while the line out front is limitless.

Good post, HOTS. I agree that the solution will not be easy. ALL administrations have dropped the ball on this. My MAIN fear is that Arab terrorists could be flooding over the Mexican border. Both tend to have dark hair and are a bit darker complected than say, Polish or Irish people.

I think that I have the answer, St. John. We should annex Mexico. All the Mexican alien's would be automatic citizens. Maybe I should go buy some Mexican shoreline before they think of this, lol.

[Aja]

Not so much a poll, Debbie, but beg tolerance for those of us who choose to feel the way we do without being trashed.

Fuck you. You trash EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY in Journey if it is NOT Steve Perry.

Nah. FUCK YOU.

Your act is OLD. Real old. A Howard Stern wannabe that will neverbe. All you post is abuot how you saved JOURNEY and that Euro's are smelly and have bad teeth. Gee - you bring SO MUCH to the table. Can't you go glorify yourself somewhere else? How about just making this your sig and then get on with things:

"I saved JOURNEY. Euro's are smelly with bad teeth. Sand niggers can swallow my load. Fyre's children look like fuckin' retards."

That about sums up your daily babbling.

I can't WAIT until your children are born. You'll be so busy changing diapers and running for bottles that you won't have time to post your stupidity here.

With your superior genes I'm sure they won't look like retards.

Expressing one's opinion is one thing, but the daily doses of insults, ethnic, gender and cultural slurs are cruel, toxic and ignorant. They perpetuate dissension, alienation and divisiveness.
Surely this corroded mentality does nothing to foster goodwill between the different factions of Journey fans, nor does it encourage intelligent and thoughtful discussion. If the Journey organization is behind this individual as an ambassador for the newly fronted Journey, it gives some insight into the the type of audience they intend to target. Sad indeed, if true.

Frye, don't count on the "wordsmith" receiving a baby daddy of the year award! I suspect he will make himself scarce until they are old enough to support him in his waning years!

[Red13JoePa]

Frye, don't count on the "wordsmith" receiving a baby daddy of the year award! I suspect he will make himself scarce until they are old enough to support him in his waning years!

Not cool.

[heardonthestreet]

Here ya go St. John




Thursday, April 13, 2006
A Border Runs Through It: A Strange Frontier in North America
Federalism. Small government. Freedom. Wealth. The Constitution. Power. The benefits of admitting the 31 Mexican United States to our Union seem almost endless. But there's one more that must be mentioned: secure borders.






Defend America. Annex Mexico.


In a humorous piece on using Jack Bauer to achieve Continental Union,


Our new southern border would be 696 miles long as compared to the 2,000 miles that we currently must defend
.

This is a real concern. The length of our border is a structural weakness in our defenses





It is very easy to enter our nation over this long, flat, dry stretch. The border even includes twin cities, such as San Diego / Tijuana, Calexico / Mexicali, El Paso / Ciudad Juarez, Laredo / Nuevo Laredo, and Brownsville / Matamoros. Given that cities, as complex adaptive systems, need interaction to grow, the location of the border forces of to choose between growth and security. We've chosen growth.

By drawing a line across our continent, we have put ourselves in this situation. The solution is obvious: untie with Mexico. Instead of an irrational border through the middle of our great island, this will be the border:





Only 753 miles of inhospitable border. Instead of two-thousand miles of wide-open frontier.

We all want border control. We get it best by admitted Mexico to the United States of America.

[larryfromnextdoor]

Frye, don't count on the "wordsmith" receiving a baby daddy of the year award! I suspect he will make himself scarce until they are old enough to support him in his waning years!

Not cool.

fred?

[Lula]

Frye, don't count on the "wordsmith" receiving a baby daddy of the year award! I suspect he will make himself scarce until they are old enough to support him in his waning years!

Oh give me a fucking break I don't know who you are and you obviously don't know me. Leave my unborn children out of your insults directed at Dean if you have any decency.

[L~L~L]

Not sure about you, but MY father and grandfather both entered legally. It's really not that hard. Laws are in place for a reason. To keep us safe. Simple concept.

So did mine but then again this was their land to begin with! Just exactly whom needs to be kept safe? You from them or them from YOU?!

[Carlitto H@kk]

Frye, don't count on the "wordsmith" receiving a baby daddy of the year award! I suspect he will make himself scarce until they are old enough to support him in his waning years!

Oh give me a fucking break I don't know who you are and you obviously don't know me. Leave my unborn children out of your insults directed at Dean if you have any decency.

Let it go, Lu.
We all know this putz is nothing but a Deano-Stalker
looking to stir some shit up. Big Deal.
Look who this clown is running with...
The New and improved, big talkin' WyngDynger.
Shows you how much concern this fool merits... ZERO!
Not sure who this Ass-bandit is but I know what "AJA" stands for...
"Another Journey-forum AssClown"

[larryfromnextdoor]

Any Jay Awant it?

[7 Wishes]

Frye, don't count on the "wordsmith" receiving a baby daddy of the year award! I suspect he will make himself scarce until they are old enough to support him in his waning years!

What a bullshit post. This is a music board, Aja! Sure, we get off topic from time to time , and it can get out of hand somtimes...but this is a pile of crap. This is perhaps one of the nastiest personal assaults I've ever seen on a message board. It's not just "so-and-so is a schmuck because et cetera, et cetera". You're making a statement about a man, about a subject that is perhaps the most sensitive and dear to many of us...I mean, my life wouldn't have much meaning without my son. I'm not a perfect father, but I give him everything I can and I love him each and every seond of every day, with all of my heart. I'm positive Dean is the same way...and after what he just went through, how could you write about it?

[Matthew]

Look who this clown is running with...
The New and improved, big talkin' WyngDynger.

Fyre is laying waste to all before him at the moment! It's just one "slam down" after another. So I'd show him some respect, CH!

[chf34jmac]

Yo AJA, What the fuck is wrong with you? Attacking kids born or unborn is way the fuck over the line. LuLu doesn't need that shit right now. She's got enough just by carrying twins. Fuckin A if your problem is with dean then keep it to dean. Don't start dragging in things just so you have some kind of ammo. All that told me was you have no other arguments against dean and showed everyone here just what kind of a cockbag you are! (Sorry in advance Andrew, but read through before you jump my ass please).

Get a fucking life or just go the hell away if you don't like what's posted here. Most of us are friends and the jousting is in jest but when you call the guy a shitty father, that's wayyyyy out of bounds. Everybody here is anxiously waiting these babies to be born because these two deserve this great blessing of twins and you try and demean that. Fuck!

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Not so much a poll, Debbie, but beg tolerance for those of us who choose to feel the way we do without being trashed.

Fuck you. You trash EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY in Journey if it is NOT Steve Perry.

Nah. FUCK YOU.

Your act is OLD. Real old. A Howard Stern wannabe that will neverbe. All you post is abuot how you saved JOURNEY and that Euro's are smelly and have bad teeth. Gee - you bring SO MUCH to the table. Can't you go glorify yourself somewhere else? How about just making this your sig and then get on with things:

"I saved JOURNEY. Euro's are smelly with bad teeth. Sand niggers can swallow my load. Fyre's children look like fuckin' retards."

That about sums up your daily babbling.

I can't WAIT until your children are born. You'll be so busy changing diapers and running for bottles that you won't have time to post your stupidity here.

With your superior genes I'm sure they won't look like retards.

Some things are worth repeating.



PS I hope your illegal cronies are deported and never allowed to come back. How dare they infiltrate our beautiful country. If they respected this country they would respect its entry process. We have no need for people unwilling to acclimate to our way of life. They can stay in that shithole they call home.

Same old stupid crap from you is hardly worth anything let alone repeating. Coincidentally, I just spent the morning down at Immigration trying to correct an error with my wife's green card. What do you know about the "entry process"? At the core you spew racial slurs and monger hatred behind the thin - VERY THIN - veil of "just trying to protect our country".

Everything you say goes against THE SPIRIT that has been calling out to the "tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of teeming shores - the homeless, tempest-tossed". You are the antithesis of Winds Of Freedom. You're more accurately the Gas From Shitholes.

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Yo AJA, What the fuck is wrong with you? Attacking kids born or unborn is way the fuck over the line. LuLu doesn't need that shit right now. She's got enough just by carrying twins. Fuckin A if your problem is with dean then keep it to dean. Don't start dragging in things just so you have some kind of ammo. All that told me was you have no other arguments against dean and showed everyone here just what kind of a cockbag you are! (Sorry in advance Andrew, but read through before you jump my ass please).

Get a fucking life or just go the hell away if you don't like what's posted here. Most of us are friends and the jousting is in jest but when you call the guy a shitty father, that's wayyyyy out of bounds. Everybody here is anxiously waiting these babies to be born because these two deserve this great blessing of twins and you try and demean that. Fuck!

You're right. Attacking children born or unborn is over the line. Where were your comments when my children and family were attacked?

In this case stupidity breeds stupidity.

[chf34jmac]

when and where were your kids attacked. I f they were attacked, show me the quote.

[larryfromnextdoor]

when and where were your kids attacked. I f they were attacked, show me the quote.

before you birth on the board..

[chf34jmac]

Not much I can do then, but I do hope that someone defended them like I did for dean and Lu


Thanks for filling in the blank Larry.

[Lula]

You're right. Attacking children born or unborn is over the line. Where were your comments when my children and family were attacked?

In this case stupidity breeds stupidity.

I agree that attacks on chlidren are cruel and uncalled for. I did not like the comments Dean made about your children and he knows that. Your comment above regarding our boys came across to me as tit for tat, Dean deserved that from you. The comment made by Aja crossed the line and was cruel. With everything we have faced and continue to face I should not let this crap get to me, but it does and I had to say something.

[chf34jmac]

Worry about those babies Lu, Let me and SJ and others worry about these assholes for ya.

[Red13JoePa]

the attack on Fry happened.
Regrettable, and to Dean's credit he went in soon after and got rid of it.

[Saint John]

Not so much a poll, Debbie, but beg tolerance for those of us who choose to feel the way we do without being trashed.

Fuck you. You trash EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY in Journey if it is NOT Steve Perry.

Nah. FUCK YOU.

Your act is OLD. Real old. A Howard Stern wannabe that will neverbe. All you post is abuot how you saved JOURNEY and that Euro's are smelly and have bad teeth. Gee - you bring SO MUCH to the table. Can't you go glorify yourself somewhere else? How about just making this your sig and then get on with things:

"I saved JOURNEY. Euro's are smelly with bad teeth. Sand niggers can swallow my load. Fyre's children look like fuckin' retards."

That about sums up your daily babbling.

I can't WAIT until your children are born. You'll be so busy changing diapers and running for bottles that you won't have time to post your stupidity here.

With your superior genes I'm sure they won't look like retards.

Some things are worth repeating.



PS I hope your illegal cronies are deported and never allowed to come back. How dare they infiltrate our beautiful country. If they respected this country they would respect its entry process. We have no need for people unwilling to acclimate to our way of life. They can stay in that shithole they call home.

Same old stupid crap from you is hardly worth anything let alone repeating. Coincidentally, I just spent the morning down at Immigration trying to correct an error with my wife's green card. What do you know about the "entry process"? At the core you spew racial slurs and monger hatred behind the thin - VERY THIN - veil of "just trying to protect our country".

Everything you say goes against THE SPIRIT that has been calling out to the "tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of teeming shores - the homeless, tempest-tossed". You are the antithesis of Winds Of Freedom. You're more accurately the Gas From Shitholes.

NOWHERE in the quote that you referenced does it say anything about people being free to break our laws. THAT is the "antithesis" of what this country is about. Enter the country legally, abide by the laws and enjoy all it has to offer. Seems simple to me. What is racst about that? And what the fuck does your wife's greencard have to do with anything?


PS I CHOSE to work at a 95% hispanic school for 4 years, actually travelling longer rather than teaching at the 75% white ones near my house. I'd be happy to fax you a letter from the principal as well as my work ID. Racist.....give me a fuckin' break. That is YOUR way of dodging/ducking pertinent issues.

[AR]

[Saint John]

Funny you should post that. Stuff like that was all over certain classrooms. When I had to do Pre-K (hungover several times ) I'd have to read "Barney" and "Rainbow Fish" to the kids. Needless to say, it sucked. I enjoyed showing the older kids "The Outsiders" much more. I was surprised that of all the 6-8 grade classes that only a handful of kids had ever seen it. I don't think 1 kid told me that they didn't like it after seeing it. Outstanding movie. Fuck, it's an American classic.

[PROPERRY]

Yo AJA, What the fuck is wrong with you? Attacking kids born or unborn is way the fuck over the line. LuLu doesn't need that shit right now. She's got enough just by carrying twins. Fuckin A if your problem is with dean then keep it to dean. Don't start dragging in things just so you have some kind of ammo. All that told me was you have no other arguments against dean and showed everyone here just what kind of a cockbag you are! (Sorry in advance Andrew, but read through before you jump my ass please).

Get a fucking life or just go the hell away if you don't like what's posted here. Most of us are friends and the jousting is in jest but when you call the guy a shitty father, that's wayyyyy out of bounds. Everybody here is anxiously waiting these babies to be born because these two deserve this great blessing of twins and you try and demean that. Fuck!

You're right. Attacking children born or unborn is over the line. Where were your comments when my children and family were attacked?

In this case stupidity breeds stupidity.

Well I'm certainly NOT in agreement with bringing the kids into this forum to be used to attack the persons who post here , but I certainly KNOW how it feels, Deano and Noble Cause attacked my disabled daughter to TRY to get at me. This happened a very long time ago on this board. It didn't make me feel good either, as I'm sure it can't possibly feel good to Lula or Deano either. I guess I'm trying to say that just because Deano stoops that low, doesn't mean ANYONE else should go to that level.

It is just way better to leave the kids out of it, and make your comments directly to the person on the board.

[Red13JoePa]

It is just way better to leave the kids out of it, and make your comments directly to the person on the board.

Even though it's just words on the board I agree.

[chf34jmac]

I keep hearing that they attacked my kids a long time ago (before I joined this forum I guess) I made my comments based on what is here and now on this board since I obviously cannot comment on things before my time. Making things so personal as to bring someones children into it (again born or unborn) is just a complete asshole move and uncalled for. We are supposed to be adults so we should keep the dust ups to just the adults here on the board. JMO

[AR]