A statue for Arnel Pineda?

[Don]

Per Noel Gomez from AP site, Arnel's initial reaction was a bit shocked saying 'Huh, I'm still alive! did you ask the mayor to do this?' but Noel said that he has nothing to do with the mayor's project. IMO, Arnel did not say no maybe because there is also another filipino singer that is still alive (Freddie Aguilar) who had his statue already built somewhere in Olongapo city. Jana is right, it's not the whole country honoring him a statue, it is just a city mayor's project honoring his hardworks and achievements.

I like Freddie Aguilar. He and Rey Valera are probably the only two filipino artists that I don't mind listening to (besides Lea of course).

[aliaslen]

Per Noel Gomez from AP site, Arnel's initial reaction was a bit shocked saying 'Huh, I'm still alive! did you ask the mayor to do this?' but Noel said that he has nothing to do with the mayor's project. IMO, Arnel did not say no maybe because there is also another filipino singer that is still alive (Freddie Aguilar) who had his statue already built somewhere in Olongapo city. Jana is right, it's not the whole country honoring him a statue, it is just a city mayor's project honoring his hardworks and achievements.

I like Freddie Aguilar. He and Rey Valera are probably the only two filipino artists that I don't mind listening to (besides Lea of course).

Yup Freddie Aguilar is one of the few filipino artist that has a very successful worldwide album release.

[Jana]

I have to agree with Dan. Who cares if it's too soon or whatever? The guy does a lot with his foundation, he's a helluva singer, and his country loves him. You can see that with all the media coverage they've given him, etc.

Not sure why people want to turn it into something bad. Sounds like Arnel is one heck of an inspiration to those in his country and that's pretty cool to me and something that should be appreciated.

Let me clarify something here Bry.

I like the shit out of AP. I was one of the only proponents to say he should have been the new singer and that was tough being a friend of JSS. I never partook that dog eating bullshit and condemned those that dide. Now, saying that, giving to charity ids good, and singing the hardest catalog in music is good too. However, there are rock stars out there, plenty bigger than Mr. Pineda who don't have fucking statues.

Let me ask you this. Why didn't Pineda say, hey, you know what?...why not say fuck this statue and feed a bunch of starving kids, no matter where they live? Why not shoe some people who need fucking shoes? A statue is plain and simply, greed and more greed. You Journey lovers should hurry up and go erect one of Neal and Friga. Those two motherfuckers need statues, and they better be fucking nice!

Like I said, sickening. Pineda is being tarnished just by being in this poison called Journey.

Hey, when is JT the Fuck You Manager getting his statue?

In my opinion, he didn't say no, because he spent his whole career over there not being noticed (for the most part) or appreciated. And as cheesy as it seemed to me at first, there is a cultural difference. It's a third world country. That the city wanted to do it, I'm sure he probably didn't feel he deserved it, but felt honored. He's a humble guy and has lived a humble life. It's a big deal for him. It's just a city that is doing it, not the country or anything. They're proud of him, that Journey and America accepted him. Proud that he came back and lives there and will do geat things for the poor of Olongapo. Pretty simple.

Unfortunately if he had refused the statue. they would have seen him as shunning his filipino fans and turned on him. Money for that statue wouldn't have gone to feed hungry kids. It would have went right back into the pocket it came out. Their president, who owns, with her husband about 70 million dollars worth of real estate in San Francisco is an example of their mentality over there when it comes to money. Arnel is really the exception to the role with his efforts to run a charity. The poverty rate has risen from 30% to 33% over the last 2 years yet Madame President has the balls to say they are no longer a third world country. Notice where most of his funds are coming from for his charity? Here in the U.S. Bong Gordon is a just another corrupt offical who gets kickbacks from the Subic free port authority. The money for this statue wasn't coming out his pocket, so there was no way it was going to go to homeless kids.

For three weeks, I worked in a refugee center in Porac, Pampanga after Pinatubo blew up. Everyone around me were locals and americans. All those movie stars and actors who used to rush on base when we had a concert or some other big event? No shows. None of them could afford to take one single day to come and help these people. They were all busy vacationing in the states while their homes got repaired from Volcano damage. Me and many other Americans, Europeans and others have busted our ass for the people in that country. Unfortunately people like Arnel are in the tiny minority even though there are thousands of them living in Green Hills and other enclaves who could be actually helping their fellow citizens. There is a reason that third world countries remain third world, just like our inner cities remain cesspools. Apathy breeds apathy, it's a vicious cycle thats almost impossible to break. I love filipinos more than any ethnicity outside of my own, but the facts remain they are a hard working beautiful people who live in a beautiful but fucked up country, where even a cover singer can be considered a world wide success. Obviously the bar measuring success is set at the level the country itself is at.

This isn't a rant against poor people but against the governments which keep the status quo two tier system of rich and poor with no middle class. The fuckers should be lined up and shot. End of rant.

Great post, Gunbot. Very interesting.

[la michelona]

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Unfortunately if he had refused the statue. they would have seen him as shunning his filipino fans and turned on him. Money for that statue wouldn't have gone to feed hungry kids. It would have went right back into the pocket it came out. Their president, who owns, with her husband about 70 million dollars worth of real estate in San Francisco is an example of their mentality over there when it comes to money. Arnel is really the exception to the role with his efforts to run a charity. The poverty rate has risen from 30% to 33% over the last 2 years yet Madame President has the balls to say they are no longer a third world country. Notice where most of his funds are coming from for his charity? Here in the U.S. Bong Gordon is a just another corrupt offical who gets kickbacks from the Subic free port authority. The money for this statue wasn't coming out his pocket, so there was no way it was going to go to homeless kids.

For three weeks, I worked in a refugee center in Porac, Pampanga after Pinatubo blew up. Everyone around me were locals and americans. All those movie stars and actors who used to rush on base when we had a concert or some other big event? No shows. None of them could afford to take one single day to come and help these people. They were all busy vacationing in the states while their homes got repaired from Volcano damage. Me and many other Americans, Europeans and others have busted our ass for the people in that country. Unfortunately people like Arnel are in the tiny minority even though there are thousands of them living in Green Hills and other enclaves who could be actually helping their fellow citizens. There is a reason that third world countries remain third world, just like our inner cities remain cesspools. Apathy breeds apathy, it's a vicious cycle thats almost impossible to break. I love filipinos more than any ethnicity outside of my own, but the facts remain they are a hard working beautiful people who live in a beautiful but fucked up country, where even a cover singer can be considered a world wide success. Obviously the bar measuring success is set at the level the country itself is at.

[color=#]This isn't a rant against poor people but against the governments which keep the status quo two tier system of rich and poor with no middle class.[/color] The fuckers should be lined up and shot. End of rant.

Cogent post. I read this and thought, "wow, change the location to Mexico and I could say the same thing..."

[la michelona]

Now would someone please teach me how to quote correctly? I can't work the little color buttons, waaaaaaa.

[mdaemon]

I have to agree with Dan. Who cares if it's too soon or whatever? The guy does a lot with his foundation, he's a helluva singer, and his country loves him. You can see that with all the media coverage they've given him, etc.

Not sure why people want to turn it into something bad. Sounds like Arnel is one heck of an inspiration to those in his country and that's pretty cool to me and something that should be appreciated.

Let me clarify something here Bry.

I like the shit out of AP. I was one of the only proponents to say he should have been the new singer and that was tough being a friend of JSS. I never partook that dog eating bullshit and condemned those that dide. Now, saying that, giving to charity ids good, and singing the hardest catalog in music is good too. However, there are rock stars out there, plenty bigger than Mr. Pineda who don't have fucking statues.

Let me ask you this. Why didn't Pineda say, hey, you know what?...why not say fuck this statue and feed a bunch of starving kids, no matter where they live? Why not shoe some people who need fucking shoes? A statue is plain and simply, greed and more greed. You Journey lovers should hurry up and go erect one of Neal and Friga. Those two motherfuckers need statues, and they better be fucking nice!

Like I said, sickening. Pineda is being tarnished just by being in this poison called Journey.

Hey, when is JT the Fuck You Manager getting his statue?

The way to understand this is to set Journey aside and look at it from the point of view of the Filipinos. This is not a Journey thing but more like a Pinoy thing. One thing some people (I am not referring to you Deano) should do is to stop thinking that if Arnel gets a statue, surely Steve Perry should get one as well as he has accomplished far bigger things than Arnel with Journey. Again, this is not about counting one's contribution to the music industry or Journey. This is about a Filipino born and bred in the Philippines who made it big (at least to OUR standards) in America (we admire the Americans so much that an acceptance by the Americans of anything Filipino is a big deal to us). This is meant to inspire all the struggling artists and Pinoys living in poverty that if you persevere hard enough, there is hope. The magnitude of Arnel's accomplishment at least to our point of view is as rare as a snow in Manila or Miami. To those living in Alaska or Calgary, snow isn't a big deal. So, Arnel is getting a statue because it snowed in Manila.... I think I managed to confuse myself there...



I did mention earlier that Filipino artists end up performing cultural dances in Japan. Actually, what happen to some of our women is that they go to Japan as singers and dancers but some end up being prostitutes. It's sad especially when you hear people say "your daughter can sing very well and she's got nice legs too, perhaps she can go to Japan" . It may be said in jest but it is still sad because the truth is, some of us end of doing stuff we don't want to do to earn money and feed our families. If only one PinAy (a woman Pinoy) will say to herself - while being fucked by a Japanese - that tomorrow she's not gonna sell herself again and will just instead sing in bars like Arnel did, because if she works and practice hard enough like Arnel did, she can have a decent living...then that statue, IMO is well deserved.

[Don]

I have to agree with Dan. Who cares if it's too soon or whatever? The guy does a lot with his foundation, he's a helluva singer, and his country loves him. You can see that with all the media coverage they've given him, etc.

Not sure why people want to turn it into something bad. Sounds like Arnel is one heck of an inspiration to those in his country and that's pretty cool to me and something that should be appreciated.

Let me clarify something here Bry.

I like the shit out of AP. I was one of the only proponents to say he should have been the new singer and that was tough being a friend of JSS. I never partook that dog eating bullshit and condemned those that dide. Now, saying that, giving to charity ids good, and singing the hardest catalog in music is good too. However, there are rock stars out there, plenty bigger than Mr. Pineda who don't have fucking statues.

Let me ask you this. Why didn't Pineda say, hey, you know what?...why not say fuck this statue and feed a bunch of starving kids, no matter where they live? Why not shoe some people who need fucking shoes? A statue is plain and simply, greed and more greed. You Journey lovers should hurry up and go erect one of Neal and Friga. Those two motherfuckers need statues, and they better be fucking nice!

Like I said, sickening. Pineda is being tarnished just by being in this poison called Journey.

Hey, when is JT the Fuck You Manager getting his statue?

The way to understand this is to set Journey aside and look at it from the point of view of the Filipinos. This is not a Journey thing but more like a Pinoy thing. One thing some people (I am not referring to you Deano) should do is to stop thinking that if Arnel gets a statue, surely Steve Perry should get one as well as he has accomplished far bigger things than Arnel with Journey. Again, this is not about counting one's contribution to the music industry or Journey. This is about a Filipino born and bred in the Philippines who made it big (at least to OUR standards) in America (we admire the Americans so much that an acceptance by the Americans of anything Filipino is a big deal to us). This is meant to inspire all the struggling artists and Pinoys living in poverty that if you persevere hard enough, there is hope. The magnitude of Arnel's accomplishment at least to our point of view is as rare as a snow in Manila or Miami. To those living in Alaska or Calgary, snow isn't a big deal. So, Arnel is getting a statue because it snowed in Manila.... I think I managed to confuse myself there...



I did mention earlier that Filipino artists end up performing cultural dances in Japan. Actually, what happen to some of our women is that they go to Japan as singers and dancers but some end up being prostitutes. It's sad especially when you hear people say "your daughter can sing very well and she's got nice legs too, perhaps she can go to Japan" . It may be said in jest but it is still sad because the truth is, some of us end of doing stuff we don't want to do to earn money and feed our families. If only one PinAy (a woman Pinoy) will say to herself - while being fucked by a Japanese - that tomorrow she's not gonna sell herself again and will just instead sing in bars like Arnel did, because if she works and practice hard enough like Arnel did, she can have a decent living...then that statue, IMO is well deserved.

That was a good post. My sorry gringo ass actually understood and agreed with what you were saying for once.

[treetopovskaya]

}:C)))))

arnel is good people. }:C))

let him have his statue... why rain on the parade. if having a statue honoring arnel makes people happy... that's a good thing. }:C)) who's it going to hurt?

I have to agree with Dan. Who cares if it's too soon or whatever? The guy does a lot with his foundation, he's a helluva singer, and his country loves him. You can see that with all the media coverage they've given him, etc.

Not sure why people want to turn it into something bad. Sounds like Arnel is one heck of an inspiration to those in his country and that's pretty cool to me and something that should be appreciated.

Let me clarify something here Bry.

I like the shit out of AP. I was one of the only proponents to say he should have been the new singer and that was tough being a friend of JSS. I never partook that dog eating bullshit and condemned those that dide. Now, saying that, giving to charity ids good, and singing the hardest catalog in music is good too. However, there are rock stars out there, plenty bigger than Mr. Pineda who don't have fucking statues.

Let me ask you this. Why didn't Pineda say, hey, you know what?...why not say fuck this statue and feed a bunch of starving kids, no matter where they live? Why not shoe some people who need fucking shoes? A statue is plain and simply, greed and more greed. You Journey lovers should hurry up and go erect one of Neal and Friga. Those two motherfuckers need statues, and they better be fucking nice!

Like I said, sickening. Pineda is being tarnished just by being in this poison called Journey.

Hey, when is JT the Fuck You Manager getting his statue?

The way to understand this is to set Journey aside and look at it from the point of view of the Filipinos. This is not a Journey thing but more like a Pinoy thing. One thing some people (I am not referring to you Deano) should do is to stop thinking that if Arnel gets a statue, surely Steve Perry should get one as well as he has accomplished far bigger things than Arnel with Journey. Again, this is not about counting one's contribution to the music industry or Journey. This is about a Filipino born and bred in the Philippines who made it big (at least to OUR standards) in America (we admire the Americans so much that an acceptance by the Americans of anything Filipino is a big deal to us). This is meant to inspire all the struggling artists and Pinoys living in poverty that if you persevere hard enough, there is hope. The magnitude of Arnel's accomplishment at least to our point of view is as rare as a snow in Manila or Miami. To those living in Alaska or Calgary, snow isn't a big deal. So, Arnel is getting a statue because it snowed in Manila.... I think I managed to confuse myself there...



I did mention earlier that Filipino artists end up performing cultural dances in Japan. Actually, what happen to some of our women is that they go to Japan as singers and dancers but some end up being prostitutes. It's sad especially when you hear people say "your daughter can sing very well and she's got nice legs too, perhaps she can go to Japan" . It may be said in jest but it is still sad because the truth is, some of us end of doing stuff we don't want to do to earn money and feed our families. If only one PinAy (a woman Pinoy) will say to herself - while being fucked by a Japanese - that tomorrow she's not gonna sell herself again and will just instead sing in bars like Arnel did, because if she works and practice hard enough like Arnel did, she can have a decent living...then that statue, IMO is well deserved.

[Jana]

I have to agree with Dan. Who cares if it's too soon or whatever? The guy does a lot with his foundation, he's a helluva singer, and his country loves him. You can see that with all the media coverage they've given him, etc.

Not sure why people want to turn it into something bad. Sounds like Arnel is one heck of an inspiration to those in his country and that's pretty cool to me and something that should be appreciated.

Agreed 100%

Dittto .

Copycats

Ditto.

[mdaemon]

Arnell Pineda rocks non the less, though - 1 Album + another remake, and no hits. It's the Philippines after all, you wouldn't expect anything less right?. The ignorance of some of the Filipino fans you see on Youtube and elsewhere, not all fans but a lot - it just say's it all. They probably don't even know who Steve Perry is.

My question is:

Why didn't they make a Steve Augeri statue in the USA?

For every ignorant Pinoy fan on youtube, there is a moron like jimmmyyttt who think that Perry is God, insults Pinoys, and make ridiculously unfair comparisons between Arnel and Perry . Journey is quite well known in the Phillppines even before Arnel became the lead singer. My basis for saying this is that Journey tunes still get airplay on mainstream radio stations during prime time unlike in other countries where Journey is relegated to classic rock radio stations.

...as for some Pinoys not knowing Perry, well if we can have at least one member of this forum who doesn't know Perry, then surely the Pinoy fans I mentioned earlier can be forgiven

[scarygirl]

Well, hell...good for him! Kinda bizarre though, considering he hasn't written anything with the band and only did one tour. If we follow the Pinay line of thinking, maybe Perry's vocal cords should end up in our Smithsonian one day???

Okay, I've been away for awhile. Is there talk out there that Revelation is his first and only tour?

[Rick]

Well, hell...good for him! Kinda bizarre though, considering he hasn't written anything with the band and only did one tour. If we follow the Pinay line of thinking, maybe Perry's vocal cords should end up in our Smithsonian one day???

Okay, I've been away for awhile. Is there talk out there that Revelation is his first and only tour?

Nope. Just some speculations. I think he's under a 3 year contract or something like that. They're supposed to start their new album this fall.

[Arkansas]

They gonna put up a statue of some YouTube guy too?
Without YT, there's no AP.


later~

[Carla777]

They gonna put up a statue of some YouTube guy too?
Without YT, there's no AP.


later~

well..we are in the modern times..and youtube is a great way to artist promote themself...now even live shows become the best way to promote and not only the album sell.
About Arnel Pineda Statue..i think i can understand a little why pinoys make this; Chile is a small country too and when we have a guy like Marcelo Ríos (Tennis Player, number 1), people here don't make him a statue but this guy meet the president,he got many awards, he go out on tv and all; this happen because our countries have a few achievments so when we have it, well is a reason to celebrate and feel proud of your land no matter what problems we have to deal..so i believe Arnel deseirves the statue in this context, because he already did something (no matter how much he last with Journey), he was a guy with no many good life options before..so he work hard and have the opportunity to play with one amazing and popular american rock band, and help his country with the foundation..so the statue..why not!

Saludos

[stevew2]

They gonna put up a statue of some YouTube guy too?
Without YT, there's no AP.


later~

well..we are in the modern times..and youtube is a great way to artist promote themself...now even live shows become the best way to promote and not only the album sell.
About Arnel Pineda Statue..i think i can understand a little why pinoys make this; Chile is a small country too and when we have a guy like Marcelo Ríos (Tennis Player, number 1), people here don't make him a statue but this guy meet the president,he got many awards, he go out on tv and all; this happen because our countries have a few achievments so when we have it, well is a reason to celebrate and feel proud of your land no matter what problems we have to deal..so i believe Arnel deseirves the statue in this context, because he already did something (no matter how much he last with Journey), he was a guy with no many good life options before..so he work hard and have the opportunity to play with one amazing and popular american rock band, and help his country with the foundation..so the statue..why not!

Saludos

Id like a statue of you in my house

[wednesday's child]

About Arnel Pineda Statue..i think i can understand a little why pinoys make this; ***snip** Saludos

Hi, Carla...

This is totally different from Filipinos feeling proud of Arnel's overseas exposure, and wishing to honor Arnel...
and frankly I think forums like MR unintentionally inflate Arnel's popularity here in the Philippines.
Here, he is liked by those who know of him for his good fortune. Knowing of his down-to-earth attitude
only increases the regard in which he is held. I don't know of anyone who doesn't wish him well.

A fair number actually know his voice and his work...but with so many other Filipino recording artists (in bands or not),
it's doubtful he's anything like a national favorite.

The statue is clearly not about Arnel's charity work, and IMO it's not even about honoring his musical "achievements".
It is all about local politicians trying to ride on Arnel's perceived popularity.
...and Arnel is undeniably popular in Gapó (short for Olongapo), stomping ground of th best rock bands.
Still, Olongapo is just one municipality on one large island out of the 7,100 that make up the Philippines.
Local elections are still a ways off, in May of 2010... and THAT is why I deem this statue business to be "overkill".

AFAICT, Arnel was cornered into participating in this gimmick.
He's too sweet to have said no to it, even if it struck him as weird.



-wech

[wildcat75]

About Arnel Pineda Statue..i think i can understand a little why pinoys make this; ***snip** Saludos

Hi, Carla...

This is totally different from Filipinos feeling proud of Arnel's overseas exposure, and wishing to honor Arnel...
and frankly I think forums like MR unintentionally inflate Arnel's popularity here in the Philippines.
Here, he is liked by those who know of him for his good fortune. Knowing of his down-to-earth attitude
only increases the regard in which he is held. I don't know of anyone who doesn't wish him well.

A fair number actually know his voice and his work...but with so many other Filipino recording artists (in bands or not),
it's doubtful he's anything like a national favorite.

The statue is clearly not about Arnel's charity work, and IMO it's not even about honoring his musical "achievements".
[b]It is all about local politicians trying to ride on Arnel's perceived popularity[/b].
...and Arnel is undeniably popular in Gapó (short for Olongapo), stomping ground of th best rock bands.
Still, Olongapo is just one municipality on one large island out of the 7,100 that make up the Philippines.
Local elections are still a ways off, in May of 2010... and THAT is why I deem this statue business to be "overkill".

AFAICT, Arnel was cornered into participating in this gimmick.
He's too sweet to have said no to it, even if it struck him as weird.

I thought the same thing too, Arnel was trapped into their own personal political interest that he can't even say no, his first initial reaction when he learned about it is I'm still alive" i don't think he likes the idea but glad enough that he contributed something to the city where he used to performed.



-wech

[Rockindeano]

Chile is a small country too and when we have a guy like Marcelo Ríos (Tennis Player, number 1), people here don't make him a statue but this guy meet the president,he got many awards, he go out on tv and all; this happen because our countries have a few achievments so when we have it, well is a reason to celebrate and feel proud of your land no matter what problems we have to deal..

Few achievements? How about Chilean Sea Bass and oh yea, some of the hottest bitches in the world. Chile is right up there with America and Brazil for smokin hot trim. Trust me on this Carla.

[Voyager]

Someone help me out here, because I am a little confused. Do the people in Arnel's home country understand that his claim to fame came about because he was good at impersonating another singer? For example, what if a really good Elvis impersonator came out of Thailand.... would they build a statue for the impersonator?

I say they should build a statue for Steve Perry and let Arnel pose by it for photos.

[Rockindeano]

Someone help me out here, because I am a little confused. Do the people in Arnel's home country understand that his claim to fame came about because he was good at impersonating another singer? For example, what if a really good Elvis impersonator came out of Thailand.... would they build a statue for the impersonator?

I say they should build a statue for Steve Perry and let Arnel pose by it for photos.

Whatever, and I agree with you, but promise me you will give me two weeks notice before you change that avatar. She does it to me EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME. I am serious, I love Euro pop bitches.

[Voyager]

Someone help me out here, because I am a little confused. Do the people in Arnel's home country understand that his claim to fame came about because he was good at impersonating another singer? For example, what if a really good Elvis impersonator came out of Thailand.... would they build a statue for the impersonator?

I say they should build a statue for Steve Perry and let Arnel pose by it for photos.

Whatever, and I agree with you, but promise me you will give me two weeks notice before you change that avatar. She does it to me EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME. I am serious, I love Euro pop bitches.

Here, put this in your favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxQ9sB1D8ps&fmt

[Rockindeano]

She is fucking adorable!

Look at this Madonna cover. Very pretty girl. Major talent too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2f8HSLO ... re=related

[Voyager]

She is fucking adorable!

Look t this Madonna cover. Very pretty girl. Major talent too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2f8HSLO ... re=related

Her French accent is sensual as hell. I need to get my wife to take some French lessons and talk that shit after a few glasses of wine.

[Rockindeano]

She is fucking adorable!

Look t this Madonna cover. Very pretty girl. Major talent too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2f8HSLO ... re=related

Her French accent is sensual as hell. I need to get my wife to take some French lessons and talk that shit after a few glasses of wine.

I literally cannot stop watching her. All her Youtube's are great.

[Voyager]

I am serious, I love Euro pop bitches.

Yeah, that Euro pop stuff is still going strong. The USA traded pop music for fucking hip hop, which has taken over everything. It would be nice if the Euro pop infected the USA.

Here's a hot one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5nIz0gQ95g

[Vladan]

Journey is quite well known in the Phillppines even before Arnel became the lead singer. My basis for saying this is that Journey tunes still get airplay on mainstream radio stations during prime time unlike in other countries where Journey is relegated to classic rock radio stations.

...as for some Pinoys not knowing Perry, well if we can have at least one member of this forum who doesn't know Perry, then surely the Pinoy fans I mentioned earlier can be forgiven

Ok you are entitled to your opinion, I didn't know people still listened to the radio? honest.

Now If I sound a little forth coming here, then I apologize. But I would doubt Journey were known at all in the Philippines before Arnel came on board, They were not known, and if they were nobody talked about them, no more than old nostalgic acts like Survivor, Foreigner, but even then those other two bands are more known around the world than Journey was. There absolutely no way in this world Journey were huge in the Philippines before Arnel Pineda came aboard, and why would they be? (think about it).

In fact Arnel Pineda was an unknown in the Philippines all his lfe or wasn't talked about - tribute act at best, then he landed the gig with Journey- and rest is a small part of the history of the band. Sorry guys, but the facts are the facts. I have NEVER seen a Filipino fan in all my time at these forums, at any forum, at any Youtube videos of Journey before Arnel surfaced, not one. Journey may of been known in the Philippines? but so was Michael Jackson's Thriller, probably still topping the charts there. As far as I am concerned, Arnel could of joined a band like Survivor, then everyone would of come out of the wood works, no different to what they are now.

If Arnel Pineda deserves a statue, then so does Steve Augeri - it's that simple. Give it to somebody who deserves it.

HAVING said that, Arnel is more likely to get a statue in a country such as the Philippines, than say - an Andre Agassi would in Texas, and that man has done more for charity than Arnel Pineda could dream of. In simple terms, a statue holds more worth and recognition in a country like America than, perhaps the Philippines.

[wednesday's child]

Now If I sounds a little forth coming here, then I apologize. But I would doubt Journey were known at all in the Philippines before Arnel came on board

That's not "forthcoming"... that's just ass-end wrong.
Why the hell do you think Arnel was covering Journey songs here, if not because the songs were popular?
Of course, most Filipinos don't distinguish Journey from Steve Perry.
Hence, "Foolish Heart" is often referred to as a Journey song.

Arnel was singing that shit as recently as '06, so you KNOW the songs had staying power on radio and with the public.
...and yes, we listen to radio. Unlike CD's, or mp3 players, radio lets us know when a natural disaster or a coup is on.

wech

[Vladan]

Now If I sounds a little forth coming here, then I apologize. But I would doubt Journey were known at all in the Philippines before Arnel came on board

That's not "forthcoming"... that's just ass-end wrong.
Why the hell do you think Arnel was covering Journey songs here, if not because the songs were popular?
Of course, most Filipinos don't distinguish Journey from Steve Perry.
Hence, "Foolish Heart" is often referred to as a Journey song.

Arnel was singing that shit as recently as '06, so you KNOW the songs had staying power on radio and with the public.
...and yes, we listen to radio. Unlike CD's, or mp3 players, radio lets us know when a natural disaster or a coup is on.

wech

Interesting, 2006 is it. That was literally 2 ago, not long ago. I am talking a longer basis say 2004 and prior? Not literally yesterday. Or even when Steve Augeri fronted the band, which I am sure you know. So there really isn't any point in dragging this out. But as stated before, the popularity in third world countries differ, and it's not significant enough to make an impact for the masses. Take the United States Of America, somebody there hits fame, they didn't just hit fame in America, that stuff is global.

[Vladan]

Arnell Pineda rocks non the less, though - 1 Album + another remake, and no hits. It's the Philippines after all, you wouldn't expect anything less right?. The ignorance of some of the Filipino fans you see on Youtube and elsewhere, not all fans but a lot - it just say's it all. They probably don't even know who Steve Perry is.

Why didn't they make a Steve Augeri statue in the USA?

With all due respect my brother V. Filipinos don't have many widely known artists that have reached as much fame. I give them their props and am happy for them that one of their countrymen have achieved such.

If the USA erected a statue for every person that's achieved as much fame as Augeri.... well you know the rest.

Yes that is true Rick, I happen to miss your post, sorry about that. Actually if I read it sooner, I would not of bothered typing the rest above - what done is done. People will probably start flocking in soon.

[diezynueve69]

Now If I sounds a little forth coming here, then I apologize. But I would doubt Journey were known at all in the Philippines before Arnel came on board

That's not "forthcoming"... that's just ass-end wrong.
Why the hell do you think Arnel was covering Journey songs here, if not because the songs were popular?
Of course, most Filipinos don't distinguish Journey from Steve Perry.
Hence, "Foolish Heart" is often referred to as a Journey song.

Arnel was singing that shit as recently as '06, so you KNOW the songs had staying power on radio and with the public.
...and yes, we listen to radio. Unlike CD's, or mp3 players, radio lets us know when a natural disaster or a coup is on.

wech

Interesting, 2006 is it. That was literally 2 ago, not long ago. I am talking a longer basis say 2004 and prior? Not literally yesterday. Or even when Steve Augeri fronted the band, which I am sure you know. So there really isn't any point in dragging this out. But as stated before, the popularity in third world countries differ, and it's not significant enough to make an impact for the masses. Take the United States Of America, somebody there hits fame, they didn't just hit fame in America, that stuff is global.

What was clearly implied in wech's post was an "until 2006" time frame...i.e., "2006 and prior" .