How would YOU rate Journey's performance last night?

[bluejeangirl76]

Find me an off performance of DSB where he's on stage.

Tom Snyder show, 1982 (I believe). Forgot the entire 1st verse.

New Year's Eve 1986... blasted and cursing in the 2nd chorus.

(I'm not criticizing, btw... the NYE one is funnier than hell!!)

Why do you have to point out that he was blasted and cursing and forgot the first verse?

It's okay if Perry fucks up.

The Tom Snyder thing is rough to watch.
Made me want to hug him and go "Aw... its ok!"
That was one hell of an off day, I'd say.
I *think* there was something about a last minute song switch. Maybe that was the problem.

The NYE thing is just funny as hell.
He didn't forget the words, he just... well... added a couple.
I love stuff like that - yes it IS ok if he fucks up.
To me, that stuff is like when you watch the outtakes on a DVD.
We ALL do stuff like that, and its funny. No big deal.

[Moon Beam]

I was being polite Behshad, don't tempt me into taking a belly flop in the forum today Fella.
Doing dandily here.

[amaron]

I believe Perry respects music and the industry too much, to do it half assed.

We all know how (too) seriously he takes his position in history, so I would agree with that.

[Behshad]

I was being polite Behshad, don't tempt me into taking a belly flop in the forum today Fella.
Doing dandily here.

We'd love to see that. Will you be wearing the swimmingsuit from SouthBend !?

[NealIsGod]

I believe Perry respects music and the industry too much, to do it half assed.

We all know how (too) seriously he takes his position in history, so I would agree with that.

Perry shouldn't have gone hiking just before a tour either. WTF was he thinking?

[amaron]

I believe Perry respects music and the industry too much, to do it half assed.

We all know how (too) seriously he takes his position in history, so I would agree with that.

Perry shouldn't have gone hiking just before a tour either. WTF was he thinking?

"If I climb this mountain, there will be a genie up top that will let me have my one true wish in life: Rhinoplasty"

[youkeepmewaiting]

Find me an off performance of DSB where he's on stage.

Tom Snyder show, 1982 (I believe). Forgot the entire 1st verse.

New Year's Eve 1986... blasted and cursing in the 2nd chorus.

(I'm not criticizing, btw... the NYE one is funnier than hell!!)

Why do you have to point out that he was blasted and cursing and forgot the first verse?

It's okay if Perry fucks up.

The Tom Snyder thing is rough to watch.
Made me want to hug him and go "Aw... its ok!"
That was one hell of an off day, I'd say.
I *think* there was something about a last minute song switch. Maybe that was the problem.

The NYE thing is just funny as hell.
He didn't forget the words, he just... well... added a couple.
I love stuff like that - yes it IS ok if he fucks up.
To me, that stuff is like when you watch the outtakes on a DVD.
We ALL do stuff like that, and its funny. No big deal.

Anyone have the NYE Perry swearing audio???

[bluejeangirl76]

I believe Perry respects music and the industry too much, to do it half assed.

We all know how (too) seriously he takes his position in history, so I would agree with that.

And why shouldn't he?

[amaron]

I believe Perry respects music and the industry too much, to do it half assed.

We all know how (too) seriously he takes his position in history, so I would agree with that.

And why shouldn't he?

Didn't say that he shouldn't, but I'm of the opinion that he goes to absurd lengths.

[bluejeangirl76]

Anyone have the NYE Perry swearing audio???

Yep. I can get it to you later on (at work now)... but its in the Long Beach 1986 audio boot if that helps.

[Moon Beam]

Will you be wearing the swimmingsuit from SouthBend !?

Naw it's still not warmly enough for that but I will have my waders on around here today.

[isla]

Arnel may not have been operating at optimum level, but I’ve heard far worse from SA, (CBS Morning Show, anyone?), and even ROR-era Perry, for that matter.
Using nothing but previous Arnel performances as a vocal benchmark, I think this was a solid, if somewhat unexceptional, performance.
Not getting the hate...

I think obviously Arnel can and has knocked this song out of the park before. I just don't understand the charity gig in CA the night before a Super Bowl performance. I mean - really, I'm bewildered that it was allowed to happen with the largest viewing audience in Journey's history watching them the next night. Whomever didn't step in and say "Sorry, bud, Super Bowl tomorrow" needs their head examined.

Arnel's two charity gigs in CA prior to the Superbowl were on Jan. 29 & 30. Arnel was actually in Tampa on the 31st, the day before the Superbowl. January has 31 days, not 30.

[Rocker Chic]

I just don't understand the charity gig in CA the night before a Super Bowl performance. I mean - really, I'm bewildered that it was allowed to happen with the largest viewing audience in Journey's history watching them the next night. Whomever didn't step in and say "Sorry, bud, Super Bowl tomorrow" needs their head examined.

Let me ask you this Jeremey. I disagree with this. Pineda is an adult. Fuck, he is 40 something years old. He should know better than this. My point is he should have the brains and respect for his job and his bandmates to be in Tampa a few days early, get acclimated and and perform like a professional. I already spoke unauthorized for JSS, saying he would never pull that shit, and I bet you wouldn't be doing a gig on the eve of the fucking Super Bowl either, especially on the opposite coast, would you. Man, if I truly gave a shit about this band, I would be all over Azoff, Schon and Friga0Cain. You think Bruce and his band were playing the Stone Pony on Super Bowl Eve, and just flew in and popped out their show?

To carry this further, there is definitely a disinterest at the management level here. Azoff has far more lucrative clients, tlike the Eagles and Christina Aguilara, and if you look at the mistakes that this band makes, and are seemingly allowed to make, you have to wonder if Azoff (Conselo and Baruck)is just a manager in name only. If I were still tried and true fan, I would be pissed. Journey has obviously lost respect for themselves, the band name and I have to think, they have lost respect for rock n roll and music in general. They don't take it serious. I hate to keep bringing it up, but compare the two bands yesterday. One was on the big stage and acted very professional and the other played the beer tent and acted half assed. Coincidence?

I feel similar to your reaction to their performance also, Dean. In fact, I posted the exact same reaction to this performance that I did here, as I did on the Noticeboard, and some over there jumped on me for it, while it was simply ignored here. Go figure! They also tried to beat me over the head with my appreciation of the JSSB (see my similar signature), while I never mentioned Jeff and Journey in the same sentence even once. WTH?

Debbie

[Rick]

I think Arnel did fine. His accent was a little more pronounced, his voice is a little rougher than when he started, but all in all, it was good. There were no flat notes or missed lyrics. The audience seemed like they were digging the hell out of it. However, they've done it better. I had people calling and texting me like crazy. "Hey! Journey's on the pregame show."

[The_Noble_Cause]

I think Arnel did fine. His accent was a little more pronounced, his voice is a little rougher than when he started, but all in all, it was good. There were no flat notes or missed lyrics.

That's where I'm at.
Journey has come a long way from just a few years back, where almost all the DSB highs were either ducked, delegated, or worse, pro-tooled.

[StevePerryHair]

I think Arnel did fine. His accent was a little more pronounced, his voice is a little rougher than when he started, but all in all, it was good. There were no flat notes or missed lyrics. The audience seemed like they were digging the hell out of it. However, they've done it better. I had people calling and texting me like crazy. "Hey! Journey's on the pregame show."

My mom called to tell me too! Is that a weird thing when people start associating you with the band? And like we wouldn't know they were performing anyway

[Jeremey]

I didn't get to see the performance in real time, was still driving back from Louisiana. I did get many texts that ranged the gamut from "just looks weird" (and they also mentioned The Undertaker, Dean) to doesn't sound good....So I didn't know what to expect.

Still, I'll give anyone a pass on a bad night or series thereof, everyone has one. Once I did hear it, I didn't think it was career endingly bad or anything.

But to find out he did 2 gigs in 3 days before this event, I felt was pretty reckless, even if they were scheduled before the show. Super Bowl takes precedence over anything, anytime. Even if he did the show on Friday and not Saturday, a cross country flight shuffling through airports the day before the show may well have been just as bad as singing. To spend 8 hours dehydrating in a plane before performing for nearly 100 million people just doesn't make sense....

RE Journey's management, I believe they are 100% handled by John Baruck now. I don't believe Tom Consolo even works for Azoff Management right now. But yes, the interest is not in promoting the career, which is partly the culture at Azoff Management - they don't have to break new acts, they just essentially broker mega-deals for acts already in their prime. The relationship between Azoff Management and Journey is basically - You do whatever you want, we'll field and develop any interest RE your catalog (and deal with Mr P in the process) and we'll collect our several million dollars a year commissions. I don't know if anyone really thought out the consequences of not making sure AP was in Florida several days before the show.

[Gideon]

We know who's band it really was init's prime and we sure as hell would've never heard that vocal performance on world-wide television.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=504B3iR5 ... re=related

Wrong.

Where's the part where he rolls his eyes back into his head?

Are you kidding me with this? Is this all you have? A tired, partied out, hoarse from yelling, SP singing without warming up and trying to blend in with a bunch of big oafs warbling off key?

Find me an off performance of DSB where he's on stage. And if you post the FTLOSM tour version, you'll be wrong, because although the song was lowered a HALF step, he sang the hell out of it.

It's hillarious someone would post this a so called "bad performace". Talk about reaching.

It's almost as funny as the excuses that follow. You claimed that Perry wouldn't ever screw it up that bad; he did. In fact, he did worse. Much worse. Deal with it.

[Blueskies]

We know who's band it really was init's prime and we sure as hell would've never heard that vocal performance on world-wide television.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=504B3iR5 ... re=related

Wrong.

Where's the part where he rolls his eyes back into his head?

Are you kidding me with this? Is this all you have? A tired, partied out, hoarse from yelling, SP singing without warming up and trying to blend in with a bunch of big oafs warbling off key?

Find me an off performance of DSB where he's on stage. And if you post the FTLOSM tour version, you'll be wrong, because although the song was lowered a HALF step, he sang the hell out of it.

It's hillarious someone would post this a so called "bad performace". Talk about reaching.

It's almost as funny as the excuses that follow. You claimed that Perry wouldn't ever screw it up that bad; he did. In fact, he did worse. Much worse. Deal with it.

I'm not about to say Perry never had any off performances because I havent heard every performance he ever made and I'm sure he did have some on occasion with their heavy tour schedule..that would be expected....but come on dude..the use of that clip as an example does nothing at all to prove your case because that occasion was not a performance and I can't believe your trying to make it out as one. That was a very impromto sing along at best and I'm positive it wasn't planned out in advance....someone just decided to call him up to the mic. He was having fun with the team and had been screaming that day as a baseball fan and had not sang at all in a very long time...so you are not going to prove a point with that clip...you'll have to find another example.

[mdaemon]

Behshad has the option of "They should've prepared better." Um, no. The band was fine, if not really solid. Pineda is the problem. His lack of professionalism in the fact he was in San Diego the night before singing and then flying cross ountry in a flu-tube, and just showing up is a slap in the face of Journey. I can tell you right now, and I feel I can speak for Jeff, but he would respect his Journey job a helluva lot more than to sing on Super Bowl eve, let alone on the opposite fucking coast. I remember him not even talking to me at times when he had a gig coming up. He would nod and whisper rather use up his chords. This one is on Pineda and I would be shocked if he doesn't get sat down for some serious ass chewing. Friga and Schon will read this board, and they are smart enough to weed out the Arnel onlies cheerleading posts and see that Pineda's performance just may have cost them a serious future. I saw the whole set, and he was terrible the entire time. Way to take your new gig seriously. If I was Castronovo I would slap that little weed's face.

Jana did mention that the charity gig had been planned ahead of the Superbowl performance. Arnel was really in a "damn if you, damn if you don't" situation here as he would have been called unprofessional as well if he cancelled the charity gig. The backlash back home would have been unthinkable as well as people would be thinking of the street children who would've benefited had Arnel not cancelled the show. PR wise, this would probably affect their concert in the Philippines.

I think both Journey and Arnel probably didn't see performing a night before the superbowl gig as a problem as he was doing 3 or 4 consecutive nights touring with them during the summer and he was nailing most of them. Also, I think the charity gig had Journey management's blessings as I believe Arnel wouldn't do anything without asking permission from them. Putting the blame solely on Arnel IMO is just washing hands on the part of Journey management.

[SusieP]

You Tube sound quality is always lousy IMO, but the guy sounded like his voice was a little tired to me.

What concerned me the most is just how many rings can one guy wear on one hand???? Too many rings Arnel. Less is more.

Also just how big can Deen's mic cover be?

[Ehwmatt]

While we're on the subject of looks, when's Deen gonna fix that awful hair.

[Gideon]

I'm not about to say Perry never had any off performances because I havent heard every performance he ever made and I'm sure he did have some on occasion with their heavy tour schedule..that would be expected....

Correct. Perry was among the best ever, but he was hardly infallible. The current state of his voice is resounding proof that the 'vocal god' is, actually, a mere mortal.

but come on dude..the use of that clip as an example does nothing at all to prove your case because that occasion was not a performance and I can't believe your trying to make it out as one.

Perry was singing on national television in front of a considerable crowd. It was a performance by strict definition.

That was a very impromto sing along at best and I'm positive it wasn't planned out in advance....someone just decided to call him up to the mic.

He could have said "no."

He was having fun with the team and had been screaming that day as a baseball fan and had not sang at all in a very long time...so you are not going to prove a point with that clip...you'll have to find another example.

I'm not saying he couldn't have done better, but I'm traditionally not one for lame excuses. Arnel reportedly had a cold and just got back from a solo performance the night before. Does that mitigate his lackluster attempt at the Superbowl? No.

The claim was that Perry wouldn't have fucked up as badly. He did.

[Don]

Behshad has the option of "They should've prepared better." Um, no. The band was fine, if not really solid. Pineda is the problem. His lack of professionalism in the fact he was in San Diego the night before singing and then flying cross ountry in a flu-tube, and just showing up is a slap in the face of Journey. I can tell you right now, and I feel I can speak for Jeff, but he would respect his Journey job a helluva lot more than to sing on Super Bowl eve, let alone on the opposite fucking coast. I remember him not even talking to me at times when he had a gig coming up. He would nod and whisper rather use up his chords. This one is on Pineda and I would be shocked if he doesn't get sat down for some serious ass chewing. Friga and Schon will read this board, and they are smart enough to weed out the Arnel onlies cheerleading posts and see that Pineda's performance just may have cost them a serious future. I saw the whole set, and he was terrible the entire time. Way to take your new gig seriously. If I was Castronovo I would slap that little weed's face.

Jana did mention that the charity gig had been planned ahead of the Superbowl performance. Arnel was really in a "damn if you, damn if you don't" situation here as he would have been called unprofessional as well if he cancelled the charity gig. The backlash back home would have been unthinkable as well as people would be thinking of the street children who would've benefited had Arnel not cancelled the show. PR wise, this would probably affect their concert in the Philippines.

I think both Journey and Arnel probably didn't see performing a night before the superbowl gig as a problem as he was doing 3 or 4 consecutive nights touring with them during the summer and he was nailing most of them. Also, I think the charity gig had Journey management's blessings as I believe Arnel wouldn't do anything without asking permission from them. Putting the blame solely on Arnel IMO is just washing hands on the part of Journey management.

I blame the leaders of the band for what happened. When the SuperBowl gig came up, Arnel did reshuffle his schedule but still left the two front dates before the Gig yesterday. Add to that him doing the TV gig in Pampanga the day he was flying out of the RP, I think it all caught up to him. In hindsight of course, I think he should have wrote a check out of his pocket for Lani to present in his absence to her shows. It's done now, the best thing is to just move on, but there were more unkind reviews from various blogs today than during the bands whole summer tour combined. I think Journey will want to forget the SuperBowl ever happened.

[Gideon]

Behshad has the option of "They should've prepared better." Um, no. The band was fine, if not really solid. Pineda is the problem. His lack of professionalism in the fact he was in San Diego the night before singing and then flying cross ountry in a flu-tube, and just showing up is a slap in the face of Journey. I can tell you right now, and I feel I can speak for Jeff, but he would respect his Journey job a helluva lot more than to sing on Super Bowl eve, let alone on the opposite fucking coast. I remember him not even talking to me at times when he had a gig coming up. He would nod and whisper rather use up his chords. This one is on Pineda and I would be shocked if he doesn't get sat down for some serious ass chewing. Friga and Schon will read this board, and they are smart enough to weed out the Arnel onlies cheerleading posts and see that Pineda's performance just may have cost them a serious future. I saw the whole set, and he was terrible the entire time. Way to take your new gig seriously. If I was Castronovo I would slap that little weed's face.

Jana did mention that the charity gig had been planned ahead of the Superbowl performance. Arnel was really in a "damn if you, damn if you don't" situation here as he would have been called unprofessional as well if he cancelled the charity gig. The backlash back home would have been unthinkable as well as people would be thinking of the street children who would've benefited had Arnel not cancelled the show. PR wise, this would probably affect their concert in the Philippines.

I think both Journey and Arnel probably didn't see performing a night before the superbowl gig as a problem as he was doing 3 or 4 consecutive nights touring with them during the summer and he was nailing most of them. Also, I think the charity gig had Journey management's blessings as I believe Arnel wouldn't do anything without asking permission from them. Putting the blame solely on Arnel IMO is just washing hands on the part of Journey management.

I blame the leaders of the band for what happened. When the SuperBowl gig came up, Arnel did reshuffle his schedule but still left the two front dates before the Gig yesterday. Add to that him doing the TV gig in Pampanga the day he was flying out of the RP, I think it all caught up to him. In hindsight of course, I think he should have wrote a check out of his pocket for Lani to present in his absence to her shows. It's done now, the best thing is to just move on, but there were more unkind reviews from various blogs today than during the bands whole summer tour combined. I think Journey will want to forget the SuperBowl ever happened.

I'm telling you: they need to make it clear to Arnel that his obligations with Journey > his solo work. If he really wants to benefit charity, how about putting effort into maintaining relevance in the public spectacle so he can cash in on it later?

Hell, even Perry was smart enough to wait until they were at their height.

[swataz]

I'm not about to say Perry never had any off performances because I havent heard every performance he ever made and I'm sure he did have some on occasion with their heavy tour schedule..that would be expected....

Correct. Perry was among the best ever, but he was hardly infallible. The current state of his voice is resounding proof that the 'vocal god' is, actually, a mere mortal.

but come on dude..the use of that clip as an example does nothing at all to prove your case because that occasion was not a performance and I can't believe your trying to make it out as one.

Perry was singing on national television in front of a considerable crowd. It was a performance by strict definition.

That was a very impromto sing along at best and I'm positive it wasn't planned out in advance....someone just decided to call him up to the mic.

He could have said "no."

He was having fun with the team and had been screaming that day as a baseball fan and had not sang at all in a very long time...so you are not going to prove a point with that clip...you'll have to find another example.

I'm not saying he couldn't have done better, but I'm traditionally not one for lame excuses. Arnel reportedly had a cold and just got back from a solo performance the night before. Does that mitigate his lackluster attempt at the Superbowl? No.

The claim was that Perry wouldn't have fucked up as badly. He did.

C'mon man...you can't compare "Perry White Sox" with Arnel at the Superbowl. Apples and Oranges.

[Gideon]

I'm not about to say Perry never had any off performances because I havent heard every performance he ever made and I'm sure he did have some on occasion with their heavy tour schedule..that would be expected....

Correct. Perry was among the best ever, but he was hardly infallible. The current state of his voice is resounding proof that the 'vocal god' is, actually, a mere mortal.

but come on dude..the use of that clip as an example does nothing at all to prove your case because that occasion was not a performance and I can't believe your trying to make it out as one.

Perry was singing on national television in front of a considerable crowd. It was a performance by strict definition.

That was a very impromto sing along at best and I'm positive it wasn't planned out in advance....someone just decided to call him up to the mic.

He could have said "no."

He was having fun with the team and had been screaming that day as a baseball fan and had not sang at all in a very long time...so you are not going to prove a point with that clip...you'll have to find another example.

I'm not saying he couldn't have done better, but I'm traditionally not one for lame excuses. Arnel reportedly had a cold and just got back from a solo performance the night before. Does that mitigate his lackluster attempt at the Superbowl? No.

The claim was that Perry wouldn't have fucked up as badly. He did.

C'mon man...you can't compare "Perry White Sox" with Arnel at the Superbowl. Apples and Oranges.

As a friend once told me, it's only unfair to compare a Derringer with a Howitzer if you apply them to a different set of standards. The claim was that Perry wouldn't fuck up as bad on world-wide television. He did. And people are trying to give excuses: "well, Perry was hoarse!" Yeah, and Arnel had a cold. Big deal. They both performed sub-par and the excuses don't mitigate that.

Like I said, though, I'm sure Perry could have done better.

[Don]

I'm not about to say Perry never had any off performances because I havent heard every performance he ever made and I'm sure he did have some on occasion with their heavy tour schedule..that would be expected....

Correct. Perry was among the best ever, but he was hardly infallible. The current state of his voice is resounding proof that the 'vocal god' is, actually, a mere mortal.

but come on dude..the use of that clip as an example does nothing at all to prove your case because that occasion was not a performance and I can't believe your trying to make it out as one.

Perry was singing on national television in front of a considerable crowd. It was a performance by strict definition.

That was a very impromto sing along at best and I'm positive it wasn't planned out in advance....someone just decided to call him up to the mic.

He could have said "no."

He was having fun with the team and had been screaming that day as a baseball fan and had not sang at all in a very long time...so you are not going to prove a point with that clip...you'll have to find another example.

I'm not saying he couldn't have done better, but I'm traditionally not one for lame excuses. Arnel reportedly had a cold and just got back from a solo performance the night before. Does that mitigate his lackluster attempt at the Superbowl? No.

The claim was that Perry wouldn't have fucked up as badly. He did.

C'mon man...you can't compare "Perry White Sox" with Arnel at the Superbowl. Apples and Oranges.

As a friend once told me, it's only unfair to compare a Derringer with a Howitzer if you apply them to a different set of standards. The claim was that Perry wouldn't fuck up as bad on world-wide television. He did. And people are trying to give excuses: "well, Perry was hoarse!" Yeah, and Arnel had a cold. Big deal. They both performed sub-par and the excuses don't mitigate that.

Like I said, though, I'm sure Perry could have done better.

I don't think Perry was selling or promoting anything with that performance, he was just there as a semi-retired singer joining in with fans. Yesterday was supposed to be the ultimate commercial for the new lineup of Journey. A little bit different.

[Gideon]

I'm not about to say Perry never had any off performances because I havent heard every performance he ever made and I'm sure he did have some on occasion with their heavy tour schedule..that would be expected....

Correct. Perry was among the best ever, but he was hardly infallible. The current state of his voice is resounding proof that the 'vocal god' is, actually, a mere mortal.

but come on dude..the use of that clip as an example does nothing at all to prove your case because that occasion was not a performance and I can't believe your trying to make it out as one.

Perry was singing on national television in front of a considerable crowd. It was a performance by strict definition.

That was a very impromto sing along at best and I'm positive it wasn't planned out in advance....someone just decided to call him up to the mic.

He could have said "no."

He was having fun with the team and had been screaming that day as a baseball fan and had not sang at all in a very long time...so you are not going to prove a point with that clip...you'll have to find another example.

I'm not saying he couldn't have done better, but I'm traditionally not one for lame excuses. Arnel reportedly had a cold and just got back from a solo performance the night before. Does that mitigate his lackluster attempt at the Superbowl? No.

The claim was that Perry wouldn't have fucked up as badly. He did.

C'mon man...you can't compare "Perry White Sox" with Arnel at the Superbowl. Apples and Oranges.

As a friend once told me, it's only unfair to compare a Derringer with a Howitzer if you apply them to a different set of standards. The claim was that Perry wouldn't fuck up as bad on world-wide television. He did. And people are trying to give excuses: "well, Perry was hoarse!" Yeah, and Arnel had a cold. Big deal. They both performed sub-par and the excuses don't mitigate that.

Like I said, though, I'm sure Perry could have done better.

I don't think Perry was selling or promoting anything with that performance

You mean other than the megahit song he co-wrote and can collect royalties off of?

[Don]

I'm not about to say Perry never had any off performances because I havent heard every performance he ever made and I'm sure he did have some on occasion with their heavy tour schedule..that would be expected....

Correct. Perry was among the best ever, but he was hardly infallible. The current state of his voice is resounding proof that the 'vocal god' is, actually, a mere mortal.

but come on dude..the use of that clip as an example does nothing at all to prove your case because that occasion was not a performance and I can't believe your trying to make it out as one.

Perry was singing on national television in front of a considerable crowd. It was a performance by strict definition.

That was a very impromto sing along at best and I'm positive it wasn't planned out in advance....someone just decided to call him up to the mic.

He could have said "no."

He was having fun with the team and had been screaming that day as a baseball fan and had not sang at all in a very long time...so you are not going to prove a point with that clip...you'll have to find another example.

I'm not saying he couldn't have done better, but I'm traditionally not one for lame excuses. Arnel reportedly had a cold and just got back from a solo performance the night before. Does that mitigate his lackluster attempt at the Superbowl? No.

The claim was that Perry wouldn't have fucked up as badly. He did.

C'mon man...you can't compare "Perry White Sox" with Arnel at the Superbowl. Apples and Oranges.

As a friend once told me, it's only unfair to compare a Derringer with a Howitzer if you apply them to a different set of standards. The claim was that Perry wouldn't fuck up as bad on world-wide television. He did. And people are trying to give excuses: "well, Perry was hoarse!" Yeah, and Arnel had a cold. Big deal. They both performed sub-par and the excuses don't mitigate that.

Like I said, though, I'm sure Perry could have done better.

I don't think Perry was selling or promoting anything with that performance

That song has been selling itself. Laguna Beach, Monster, Family Guy, it doesn't need Perry or anyone else to pimp it. Revelation needs to be pimped but I don't recall hearing it even being mentioned yesterday. We'll see next week if there is a jump in the charts after this nationwide showcase.

You mean other than the megahit song he co-wrote and can collect royalties off of?