How long will Journey be on HIATUS?

[Eric]

I was just kidding with Perry. Perry and Journey will never be seen again on one stage. But 8-10 years is Journey's lifespan as of right now. They certainly have the quality and health to do it, as well as a front man in his early 40's. Hopefully by then they'd be elected in the R.N.R.H.O.F.

You bet your ass if they ever get anywhere close to a stage in Cleveland that Perry will be there as he will be the biggest reason for doing so. The classic lineup deserves to be in, but the rest of their time has been tarnished with the lip syncing and all the bullshit band garbage. I don't ever think they will be inducted. Just My Opinion. However, Perry wouldn't miss that for the world. There are some things you just have to do and that would be one of them. If he showed for the Walk of Fame, he would definitely show for the HOF but the question is what would they or would they perform? The HOF wants inductees to perform. And who would induct them? Sammy?

Soooo bitter

[Michigan Girl]

What??

Steveo caught my error and he thinks he's a smart~ass!!

[Michigan Girl]

It's her typical smoke and mirrors stuff.

You're a typical ass!!!

[Jeremey]

If Journey was ever inducted into the RNRHOF Perry would certainly be there. Those guys know how much something like that means and they have a lot of respect for their body of work, even if their personal relationships aren't there anymore. Perry would certainly be on stage (though not in Cleveland, that's just the museum).

However.....

I know this has been said before and analyzed all over the place, but Journey will NEVER be inducted into the hall of fame, and for a simple reason. The HOF is for cool groups. Journey was never cool. It has nothing to do with replacing singers, lip synching, or any other reasons. Flat out reason number one: Journey was not cool. They are cool today in an "ironic" sense, but the HOF is not about that. It's simply a showcase for hipsters and those truly undeniable game changers.

[steveo777]

If Journey was ever inducted into the RNRHOF Perry would certainly be there. Those guys know how much something like that means and they have a lot of respect for their body of work, even if their personal relationships aren't there anymore. Perry would certainly be on stage (though not in Cleveland, that's just the museum).

However.....

I know this has been said before and analyzed all over the place, but Journey will NEVER be inducted into the hall of fame, and for a simple reason. The HOF is for cool groups. Journey was never cool. It has nothing to do with replacing singers, lip synching, or any other reasons. Flat out reason number one: Journey was not cool. They are cool today in an "ironic" sense, but the HOF is not about that. It's simply a showcase for hipsters and those truly undeniable game changers.

<rodney dangerfield> no respect </rodney dangerfield>

Jeremey, I think you've hit the nail on the head.

[Jana]

If Journey was ever inducted into the RNRHOF Perry would certainly be there. Those guys know how much something like that means and they have a lot of respect for their body of work, even if their personal relationships aren't there anymore. Perry would certainly be on stage (though not in Cleveland, that's just the museum).

However.....

I know this has been said before and analyzed all over the place, but Journey will NEVER be inducted into the hall of fame, and for a simple reason. The HOF is for cool groups. Journey was never cool. It has nothing to do with replacing singers, lip synching, or any other reasons. Flat out reason number one: Journey was not cool. They are cool today in an "ironic" sense, but the HOF is not about that. It's simply a showcase for hipsters and those truly undeniable game changers.

<rodney dangerfield> no respect </rodney dangerfield>

Jeremey, I think you've hit the nail on the head.

Ding-ding. I think we have a winner. I believe Jeremey made great points, many I hadn't thought about.

[steveo777]

If Journey was ever inducted into the RNRHOF Perry would certainly be there. Those guys know how much something like that means and they have a lot of respect for their body of work, even if their personal relationships aren't there anymore. Perry would certainly be on stage (though not in Cleveland, that's just the museum).

However.....

I know this has been said before and analyzed all over the place, but Journey will NEVER be inducted into the hall of fame, and for a simple reason. The HOF is for cool groups. Journey was never cool. It has nothing to do with replacing singers, lip synching, or any other reasons. Flat out reason number one: Journey was not cool. They are cool today in an "ironic" sense, but the HOF is not about that. It's simply a showcase for hipsters and those truly undeniable game changers.

<rodney dangerfield> no respect </rodney dangerfield>

Jeremey, I think you've hit the nail on the head.

Ding-ding. I think we have a winner. I believe Jeremey made great points, many I hadn't thought about.

So it looks like Journey fans like us have always been kind of a sub-culture. I'm ok with this. At least we know what real music sounds like.

[Jeremey]

Well, I wasn't too up on these things back then, but I think if you ran around calling Journey the greatest thing in the world back in 1983 or so, you probably weren't hanging with the people listening to Lou Reed, Talking Heads, or The Ramones. Not so much a sub-culture thing as a pop-culture thing.

[lights1961]

Well, I wasn't too up on these things back then, but I think if you ran around calling Journey the greatest thing in the world back in 1983 or so, you probably weren't hanging with the people listening to Lou Reed, Talking Heads, or The Ramones. Not so much a sub-culture thing as a pop-culture thing.

and to take this further...

journey songs were uppers... not downers... (per Neal's quote) not about protesting any war or authority...not about being miserable... not aboout sucide...Journey's music is about life, its ups and downs... its about love and relationships both good and bad... among a few things in life... *** I love the fact really that it was NOT cool to love Journey... its why I fell in love with this band when infinty came out...

[Babyblue]

If Journey was ever inducted into the RNRHOF Perry would certainly be there. Those guys know how much something like that means and they have a lot of respect for their body of work, even if their personal relationships aren't there anymore. Perry would certainly be on stage (though not in Cleveland, that's just the museum).

However.....

I know this has been said before and analyzed all over the place, but Journey will NEVER be inducted into the hall of fame, and for a simple reason. The HOF is for cool groups. Journey was never cool. It has nothing to do with replacing singers, lip synching, or any other reasons. Flat out reason number one: Journey was not cool. They are cool today in an "ironic" sense, but the HOF is not about that. It's simply a showcase for hipsters and those truly undeniable game changers.

I agree journey or styx will never be in thereI find that really sad.After all the great music they have giving us.That just bites the big one.

[Lula]

Well, I wasn't too up on these things back then, but I think if you ran around calling Journey the greatest thing in the world back in 1983 or so, you probably weren't hanging with the people listening to Lou Reed, Talking Heads, or The Ramones. Not so much a sub-culture thing as a pop-culture thing.

i listened then and still do. journey with perry and rolie were fantastic, maybe not the greatest lyrics, but musically right on. the lyrics did not improve with the addition of cain and the music went downhill, imo of course. journey are pop, not real interesting or deep, but they serve a purpose in my library. infinity, evolution, departure, and tbf are among my favorites.

i think the multiple tours of pre recorded vocals has left a stain on their career and can/may very well factor into overall consideration, but they may not even be relevant to the hof, does it really matter to them? only they know.

[Onestepper]

I was at a bar tonight with Mrs. Onestepper, and all of a sudden the remake of Separate Ways started playing on the JukeBox. Everyone in the bar started singing along like they thought it was actually Perry. I was trying to drown out their horrible voices so that I could just hear Arnel. I gotta say, very impressive.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic. But who the fuck cares. Carry on Arnel. Nice work!

[Jana]

I was at a bar tonight with Mrs. Onestepper, and all of a sudden the remake of Separate Ways started playing on the JukeBox. Everyone in the bar started singing along like they thought it was actually Perry. I was trying to drown out their horrible voices so that I could just hear Arnel. I gotta say, very impressive.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic. But who the fuck cares. Carry on Arnel. Nice work!

Arnel always shines on Separate Ways, and his ending is fantastic on it.

[Onestepper]

I was at a bar tonight with Mrs. Onestepper, and all of a sudden the remake of Separate Ways started playing on the JukeBox. Everyone in the bar started singing along like they thought it was actually Perry. I was trying to drown out their horrible voices so that I could just hear Arnel. I gotta say, very impressive.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic. But who the fuck cares. Carry on Arnel. Nice work!

Arnel always shines on Separate Ways, and his ending is fantastic on it.

I haven't heard many, if any of the remakes. But I gotta say that was impressive. Too bad the bar sucked and we won't be returning. Great jukebox though.

[Eric]

Well, I wasn't too up on these things back then, but I think if you ran around calling Journey the greatest thing in the world back in 1983 or so, you probably weren't hanging with the people listening to Lou Reed, Talking Heads, or The Ramones. Not so much a sub-culture thing as a pop-culture thing.

and to take this further...

journey songs were uppers... not downers... (per Neal's quote) not about protesting any war or authority...not about being miserable... not aboout sucide...Journey's music is about life, its ups and downs... its about love and relationships both good and bad... among a few things in life... *** I love the fact really that it was NOT cool to love Journey... its why I fell in love with this band when infinty came out...

WOW....nicely put!

[Michigan Girl]

Well, I wasn't too up on these things back then, but I think if you ran around calling Journey the greatest thing in the world back in 1983 or so, you probably weren't hanging with the people listening to Lou Reed, Talking Heads, or The Ramones. Not so much a sub-culture thing as a pop-culture thing.

and to take this further...

journey songs were uppers... not downers... (per Neal's quote) not about protesting any war or authority...not about being miserable... not aboout sucide...Journey's music is about life, its ups and downs... its about love and relationships both good and bad... among a few things in life... *** I love the fact really that it was NOT cool to love Journey... its why I fell in love with this band when infinty came out...

WOW....nicely put!

Indeed, very nice...Ricky!!!
BTW~Noone ever told me it wasn't cool!!!

[Since 78]

I was at a bar tonight with Mrs. Onestepper, and all of a sudden the remake of Separate Ways started playing on the JukeBox. Everyone in the bar started singing along like they thought it was actually Perry. I was trying to drown out their horrible voices so that I could just hear Arnel. I gotta say, very impressive.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic. But who the fuck cares. Carry on Arnel. Nice work!

Arnel always shines on Separate Ways, and his ending is fantastic on it.

I haven't heard many, if any of the remakes. But I gotta say that was impressive. Too bad the bar sucked and we won't be returning. Great jukebox though.

I like the remake of Only The Young more than the original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwCzkJelu8

[brywool]

I like the remake of Only The Young more than the original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwCzkJelu8

+1

Regarding the HOF- WHY do we care about this so much? EVERYONE knows that whole thing is crap anyway.
SO MANY of the inductees have nothing to do with rock and roll. And of course, being that it's Jann Wieners (yeah, I know I misspelled it!) deal, RS favorites like Patti Smith, REM, and Talking Heads are shoe ins just because.

The whole thing is bogus, so who gives a crap? Maybe it's just one more opportunity where Journey could actually all stand together in one place? BUT, they're almost cooler NOT being inducted.

[Don]

I like the remake of Only The Young more than the original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwCzkJelu8

+1

Regarding the HOF- WHY do we care about this so much? EVERYONE knows that whole thing is crap anyway.
SO MANY of the inductees have nothing to do with rock and roll. And of course, being that it's Jann Wieners (yeah, I know I misspelled it!) deal, RS favorites like Patti Smith, REM, and Talking Heads are shoe ins just because.

The whole thing is bogus, so who gives a crap? Maybe it's just one more opportunity where Journey could actually all stand together in one place? BUT, they're almost cooler NOT being inducted.

I think it is important to the band. Schon and Perry have both, on occasion mentioned disappointment at not being recognized with awards by the industry. Journey even had a link on their website to sign a petition for them to get into the HOF (probably Lori's idea as she seemed to be running their PR department at one point).

[steveo777]

I was at a bar tonight with Mrs. Onestepper, and all of a sudden the remake of Separate Ways started playing on the JukeBox. Everyone in the bar started singing along like they thought it was actually Perry. I was trying to drown out their horrible voices so that I could just hear Arnel. I gotta say, very impressive.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic. But who the fuck cares. Carry on Arnel. Nice work!

Arnel always shines on Separate Ways, and his ending is fantastic on it.

I haven't heard many, if any of the remakes. But I gotta say that was impressive. Too bad the bar sucked and we won't be returning. Great jukebox though.

I like the remake of Only The Young more than the original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwCzkJelu8

I like the remake of Who's Crying Now better than the original. I know a lot of people consider the rerecords blasphemous, etc., but I feel they really showcase that Arnel has it and if he'd been part of the band back in the day, he'd be the man too. Now he gets to carry things forward, I hope, but there's been a lot of silence in the Journey camp lately. The only news I hear about Arnel is about his guest appearances back home.

[brywool]

I like the remake of Only The Young more than the original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwCzkJelu8

+1

Regarding the HOF- WHY do we care about this so much? EVERYONE knows that whole thing is crap anyway.
SO MANY of the inductees have nothing to do with rock and roll. And of course, being that it's Jann Wieners (yeah, I know I misspelled it!) deal, RS favorites like Patti Smith, REM, and Talking Heads are shoe ins just because.

The whole thing is bogus, so who gives a crap? Maybe it's just one more opportunity where Journey could actually all stand together in one place? BUT, they're almost cooler NOT being inducted.

I think it is important to the band. Schon and Perry have both, on occasion mentioned disappointment at not being recognized with awards by the industry. Journey even had a link on their website to sign a petition for them to get into the HOF (probably Lori's idea as she seemed to be running their PR department at one point).

yeah, I guess so. I don't think they should worry about it. Same with Styx. By the way- a band that gave us "Mr. Roboto" has NO hope of being inducted. (this from a major styx fan, btw.)

[Jana]

I was at a bar tonight with Mrs. Onestepper, and all of a sudden the remake of Separate Ways started playing on the JukeBox. Everyone in the bar started singing along like they thought it was actually Perry. I was trying to drown out their horrible voices so that I could just hear Arnel. I gotta say, very impressive.

This has nothing to do with the thread topic. But who the fuck cares. Carry on Arnel. Nice work!

Arnel always shines on Separate Ways, and his ending is fantastic on it.

I haven't heard many, if any of the remakes. But I gotta say that was impressive. Too bad the bar sucked and we won't be returning. Great jukebox though.

I like the remake of Only The Young more than the original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htwCzkJelu8

I like the remake of Who's Crying Now better than the original. I know a lot of people consider the rerecords blasphemous, etc., but I feel they really showcase that Arnel has it and if he'd been part of the band back in the day, he'd be the man too. Now he gets to carry things forward, I hope, but there's been a lot of silence in the Journey camp lately. The only news I hear about Arnel is about his guest appearances back home.

I love both of those on the remakes with Arnel, fantastic vocals. I love his Open Arms as much as Perry's. Live I think Arnel kills on Separate Ways with power on that song and his ending notes. He's just great. I never think of Perry anymore with Separate Ways. On Faithfully Arnel doesn't come close to Perry on the remakes, but I still love his voice on it for a different version to listen to. But Perry is simply stunning on Faithfully.

But disagree with your statement in bold. He wouldn't be the man. Going back to Arnel's own solo work he never put his voice in the stunning registers to showcase it like he does with Journey music and his original solo songs aren't impressive or overly special deliverywise, and he is following the vocal footprint that Steve created on the classics. Even going back home now, he's singing raspier per his choice and not showcasing to me his great vocal ability in the tenor range. Steve knew how to use his voice to it best ability and how to phrase and deliver in a song when creating new music with Journey. Arnel can follow that and even put his own spin on those classic songs a little bit, but you will never see new original music consistently reach the heights of that created with Steve's vocals and delivery back in the 80s with Neal/Rolie/Jon.

[brywool]

I just can't get into ANY version of "Who's Crying Now". I DO like the guitar solo, but the rest I appreciate for Perry's voice, but the song itself doesn't do much for me.
Just no real life in it for me.

[Jana]

I just can't get into ANY version of "Who's Crying Now". I DO like the guitar solo, but the rest I appreciate for Perry's voice, but the song itself doesn't do much for me.
Just no real life in it for me.

Really? Great song and vocals by Perry, but Neal's solo absolutely elevates it to something special at the end.

[Ehwmatt]

I just can't get into ANY version of "Who's Crying Now". I DO like the guitar solo, but the rest I appreciate for Perry's voice, but the song itself doesn't do much for me.
Just no real life in it for me.

I can see how someone would think that, but for me, it's a great atmospheric song. It's almost like a prog ballad of sorts, with that moody arpeggio Neal plays over and over again at the chorus, Cain's nice chorused piano tone, the big vocal harmony, and of course, the great moody solo. It's almost what I picture Floyd sounding like if they wanted to do a MR album...

[Don]

I just can't get into ANY version of "Who's Crying Now". I DO like the guitar solo, but the rest I appreciate for Perry's voice, but the song itself doesn't do much for me.
Just no real life in it for me.

I can see how someone would think that, but for me, it's a great atmospheric song. It's almost like a prog ballad of sorts, with that moody arpeggio Neal plays over and over again at the chorus, Cain's nice chorused piano tone, the big vocal harmony, and of course, the great moody solo. It's almost what I picture Floyd sounding like if they wanted to do a MR album...

It's a ballad without the sap, more akin to Reo's Keep On Loving You than Open Arms or Faithfully. I think Send her My love is the only other Journey ballad that comes close to the vibe I get with this song.

[Ehwmatt]

I just can't get into ANY version of "Who's Crying Now". I DO like the guitar solo, but the rest I appreciate for Perry's voice, but the song itself doesn't do much for me.
Just no real life in it for me.

I can see how someone would think that, but for me, it's a great atmospheric song. It's almost like a prog ballad of sorts, with that moody arpeggio Neal plays over and over again at the chorus, Cain's nice chorused piano tone, the big vocal harmony, and of course, the great moody solo. It's almost what I picture Floyd sounding like if they wanted to do a MR album...

It's a ballad without the sap, more akin to Reo's Keep On Loving You than Open Arms or Faithfully. I think Send her My love is the only other Journey ballad that comes close to the vibe I get with this song.

Oh, without a doubt WCN and SHML are VERY similar songs stylistically/mood wise.

[slucero]

dammit... I'd only just gotten that damn Kevin Cronin "for-eveeerrr" outta my head....

[Chubby321]

Jana's sig

I admit it. I'm out of the closet. I loved this song live this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOQwN01YRB0

Jana you are not alone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUWJ8bf09BU

Chile - Open Arms = 4,155,556 views

[stevew2]

If Journey and Styks had the orginal members / singers they might have had a slight chance.They dont and its a retard club anyway