2001 Arrival DVD

[Saint John]

A fat, balding, arrogant motherfucker who is paid to manage Journey on the road. The biggest douche on the planet.

That was a classic scene outside of PF Changs. He tried lighting you up and you fired right back. I got a "Fuck you!" hurled my way, too.

[Rockindeano]

DON'T STOP BELIEVIN'

S. Perry-N. Schon
From "Escape"

At the band's Oakland warehouse, this song bubbled out of a rehearsal. Schon developed the bass riff, the chugging guitar line and the sweeping chords on the chorus. Steve Smith built the song around a pattern featuring a lot of tom-toms, anchoring the number to a rich drum figure. Perry and Cain drew from their experiences with the Sunset Strip street scene for the lyrics, "streetlight people." A Journey songbook cornerstone, the second single from "Escape" hit #9 on the charts.

Without looking, I always thought Cain co wrote DSB. Where is her name in these credits?

[Saint John]

DON'T STOP BELIEVIN'

S. Perry-N. Schon
From "Escape"

At the band's Oakland warehouse, this song bubbled out of a rehearsal. Schon developed the bass riff, the chugging guitar line and the sweeping chords on the chorus. Steve Smith built the song around a pattern featuring a lot of tom-toms, anchoring the number to a rich drum figure. Perry and Cain drew from their experiences with the Sunset Strip street scene for the lyrics, "streetlight people." A Journey songbook cornerstone, the second single from "Escape" hit #9 on the charts.

Without looking, I always thought Cain co wrote DSB. Where is her name in these credits?

He did, without question. Like I said, this appears to be unofficial, as it is LOADED with typos.


http://www.steveperryfans.com/songs/time3.html

[Don]

I think the article I am looking for also has Cain talking about them opening for the Stones at JFK and how has hands were shaking and he couldn't believe it. Then he he mentioned looking back on it that it was probably a mistake to be an opener as Escape had just hit #1 and the majority of the people there were definitely not Journey fans.

[RobbieG]

I know you talk to the band in utter disgust (personal personalities) but you can't deny you still adore and will always cherish the music, right? It'll be a shame for you to atleast NOT enjoy the music judging by how big of a hardcore fan you are/were. Do you ever regret being "in" with the band?

I will always like the Classic era and the music, but even that I couldn't listen to for about two years. I still don't spin any Journey, never. Just stained if you ask me. As for the music, it was definitely good for it's time, but the last four or so years the music sucks. Red 13 blew and Generations was even worse. As for Revelation...whatever, nothing memorable there. They sound so dated that if I want to hear Journey, I will spin Perry Journey, not some sound alike. They are so creatively bankrupt...you would think with their talent, they could come up with something to be relevent, but nope, nothing.

30/06/05: Dean Ohlrich - Journey-Generations - derbydeano@yahoo.com
Rating: 95
What I received as I walked in to the concert last week on the kickoff show was Journey's Generations CD.. WOW. Awesome. Only a little flaw and that is due to my particular taste.

"Faith in the Heartland" opens the CD, and after a drum roll opening, it takes off and soars..Neal Schon's guitar kiterally takes you with him, and the song is up tempo and fluid, complete with the poroverbial Schon solo..."The Place in Your Heart" should already be on the radio, and why it's not is beside me. This tune starts out abruptly, and then takes off with a catchy chorus and a super melodic Neal solo to close the song..The best song since Seperate Ways; in fact in my opinion, it's better. Now, the third song is called "A Better life" and drummer Deen Castranova takes over vocals on this one. I instantly liked it..starts off with a Richard marx like "Hazard: opening, then is moderate tempo, with a sweet smooth voiced Castranova doing an excellent job here..another radio friendly song. "Every Generation" is Jonathan Cains" turn to sing lead. Nothing special, but is a nice solid melodic song..a little Billy Joelish. The Next song was Steve Augeri's solo entry called "Butterfly(She flies alone). Too slow for me, and sounds like it is missing from Arrival..ok song, but I could do without. "Believe" is the next song, and it too rocks..A classic Journey song with a nice chorus. However, to me, the momentum is broken up with "Knowing that you love Me." This too sounds like Arrival, which isn't a bad thing, but could leave off. Now, the rockers come at you, starting with "Out of Harms Way." Killer Neal guitar opening, sounds like a machine gun along with Deenos drumming..great, no, superb lyrics..political song, but supportive of the men and women serving over "there." "In Self Defense" is next, and you may recognize this from a Schon and Hammer album back in the day..Neal torques on this one, and Deen fills in the high pitched vocals..."Better Together" is a real solif tune. I love the lyrics, and to me it seems as though the words are reflective of the band, not the boy/girl scenario..you need to listen to this one..For the next track, "Gone Crazy" I thought ZZ Top was included in this song. Bassist Ross Valory's turn at the mic and he does a good job on it, it just isn't Journey..very hokish and country rock..seriously, sounds like Billy Gibbons doing Journey, or Ross doing ZZ...The final song is "Beyond the Clouds."Real slow, but Schon's guitar melts you like butter, and the chorus is heavy on lyrics..

In rating this cd, I knocked off a few points for the "fillers" "Knowing that you Love Me" and "Butterfly", and for the awkwardness of the Ross song, however, this CD is strong..real strong. If radio would pull their collective heads out of their collective asses, and play this bad boy.. There are anthem songs(Faith in the Heartland), good rock tunes, pop songs(Better Life), and no tissue ballads, I rank this now number #2 in the impressive Journey catalog..yes, behind Frontiers. It's that good. Buy it if you can, or simply go to their show, and get one free!!

Dean

[Red13JoePa]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

[Saint John]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

You'll find no such review from me. That album sucks a big dick and features one of the worst song I think I have ever heard in my life, Better Life. Not to mention Butterfly, Beyond The Clouds, Faith In The Heartland and Gone Crazy.

[Ehwmatt]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

You'll find no such review from me. That album sucks a big dick and features one of the worst song I think I have ever heard in my life, Better Life. Not to mention Butterfly, Beyond The Clouds, Faith In The Heartland and Gone Crazy.

Better Life medicore song, FITH and Beyond The Clouds are great songs though.

[Rockindeano]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

By the way, Fuck You RobbieG. I still hope you catch AIDS this weekend.

[Just_Plain_Eric]

This thread is awesome! Its who killed Kenedy crossed with some Milli Vanilli drama crossed with a fat roadie eating a meatball samwich!

Don't Stop Believin INDEED!

E

[brywool]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

By the way, Fuck You RobbieG. I still hope you catch AIDS this weekend.

HE'S GOT THE AIDS........

[Rockindeano]

Dude, how can ANYONE forget this classic AIDS song? Possibly the best ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC7HwPh6Es

[Don]

BEST AIDS SONG EVEEER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID_N7rv-iN8

[RedWingFan]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

Dude, seriously WTF were you thinking? I wouldn't write a good review of that piece of excrement if they cut me the same 6th member deal they cut Perry!

FITH better than Separate Ways????

[Rick]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

Dude, seriously WTF were you thinking? I wouldn't write a good review of that piece of excrement if they cut me the same 6th member deal they cut Perry!

FITH better than Separate Ways????

I like it as well as Separate Ways. Faith In The Heartland is one of my favorite Journey songs. And I like AP's version better.

[steveo777]

I know you talk to the band in utter disgust (personal personalities) but you can't deny you still adore and will always cherish the music, right? It'll be a shame for you to atleast NOT enjoy the music judging by how big of a hardcore fan you are/were. Do you ever regret being "in" with the band?

I will always like the Classic era and the music, but even that I couldn't listen to for about two years. I still don't spin any Journey, never. Just stained if you ask me. As for the music, it was definitely good for it's time, but the last four or so years the music sucks. Red 13 blew and Generations was even worse. As for Revelation...whatever, nothing memorable there. They sound so dated that if I want to hear Journey, I will spin Perry Journey, not some sound alike. They are so creatively bankrupt...you would think with their talent, they could come up with something to be relevent, but nope, nothing.

30/06/05: Dean Ohlrich - Journey-Generations - derbydeano@yahoo.com
Rating: 95
What I received as I walked in to the concert last week on the kickoff show was Journey's Generations CD.. WOW. Awesome. Only a little flaw and that is due to my particular taste.

"Faith in the Heartland" opens the CD, and after a drum roll opening, it takes off and soars..Neal Schon's guitar kiterally takes you with him, and the song is up tempo and fluid, complete with the poroverbial Schon solo..."The Place in Your Heart" should already be on the radio, and why it's not is beside me. This tune starts out abruptly, and then takes off with a catchy chorus and a super melodic Neal solo to close the song..The best song since Seperate Ways; in fact in my opinion, it's better. Now, the third song is called "A Better life" and drummer Deen Castranova takes over vocals on this one. I instantly liked it..starts off with a Richard marx like "Hazard: opening, then is moderate tempo, with a sweet smooth voiced Castranova doing an excellent job here..another radio friendly song. "Every Generation" is Jonathan Cains" turn to sing lead. Nothing special, but is a nice solid melodic song..a little Billy Joelish. The Next song was Steve Augeri's solo entry called "Butterfly(She flies alone). Too slow for me, and sounds like it is missing from Arrival..ok song, but I could do without. "Believe" is the next song, and it too rocks..A classic Journey song with a nice chorus. However, to me, the momentum is broken up with "Knowing that you love Me." This too sounds like Arrival, which isn't a bad thing, but could leave off. Now, the rockers come at you, starting with "Out of Harms Way." Killer Neal guitar opening, sounds like a machine gun along with Deenos drumming..great, no, superb lyrics..political song, but supportive of the men and women serving over "there." "In Self Defense" is next, and you may recognize this from a Schon and Hammer album back in the day..Neal torques on this one, and Deen fills in the high pitched vocals..."Better Together" is a real solif tune. I love the lyrics, and to me it seems as though the words are reflective of the band, not the boy/girl scenario..you need to listen to this one..For the next track, "Gone Crazy" I thought ZZ Top was included in this song. Bassist Ross Valory's turn at the mic and he does a good job on it, it just isn't Journey..very hokish and country rock..seriously, sounds like Billy Gibbons doing Journey, or Ross doing ZZ...The final song is "Beyond the Clouds."Real slow, but Schon's guitar melts you like butter, and the chorus is heavy on lyrics..

In rating this cd, I knocked off a few points for the "fillers" "Knowing that you Love Me" and "Butterfly", and for the awkwardness of the Ross song, however, this CD is strong..real strong. If radio would pull their collective heads out of their collective asses, and play this bad boy.. There are anthem songs(Faith in the Heartland), good rock tunes, pop songs(Better Life), and no tissue ballads, I rank this now number #2 in the impressive Journey catalog..yes, behind Frontiers. It's that good. Buy it if you can, or simply go to their show, and get one free!!

Dean

You're pretty good at finding Dean's dick snot all over the internet.

[RedWingFan]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

Dude, seriously WTF were you thinking? I wouldn't write a good review of that piece of excrement if they cut me the same 6th member deal they cut Perry!

FITH better than Separate Ways????

I like it as well as Separate Ways. Faith In The Heartland is one of my favorite Journey songs. And I like AP's version better.

Gay! I haven't listened to any post-Perry Journey songs since "Revelations" ended it's short run!

[Rick]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

Dude, seriously WTF were you thinking? I wouldn't write a good review of that piece of excrement if they cut me the same 6th member deal they cut Perry!

FITH better than Separate Ways????

I like it as well as Separate Ways. Faith In The Heartland is one of my favorite Journey songs. And I like AP's version better.

Gay! I haven't listened to any post-Perry Journey songs since "Revelations" ended it's short run!

A song about people struggling and trying to keep faith in a land where freedom rings and eagles fly is gay?

[Don]

[RedWingFan]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

Dude, seriously WTF were you thinking? I wouldn't write a good review of that piece of excrement if they cut me the same 6th member deal they cut Perry!

FITH better than Separate Ways????

I like it as well as Separate Ways. Faith In The Heartland is one of my favorite Journey songs. And I like AP's version better.

Gay! I haven't listened to any post-Perry Journey songs since "Revelations" ended it's short run!

A song about people struggling and trying to keep faith in a land where freedom rings and eagles fly is gay?

Let me put it this way. "Liberty" is John Wayne and "FITH" is Clay Aiken!!!

[Rick]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

Dude, seriously WTF were you thinking? I wouldn't write a good review of that piece of excrement if they cut me the same 6th member deal they cut Perry!

FITH better than Separate Ways????

I like it as well as Separate Ways. Faith In The Heartland is one of my favorite Journey songs. And I like AP's version better.

Gay! I haven't listened to any post-Perry Journey songs since "Revelations" ended it's short run!

A song about people struggling and trying to keep faith in a land where freedom rings and eagles fly is gay?

Let me put it this way. "Liberty" is John Wayne and "FITH" is Clay Aiken!!!

While I respectfully disagree, that was funny.

[FinnFreak]

You guys quote way too much.


But: Perry roools.

No..? - Fuck you then. (respectfully)


John -

[parfait]

You guys quote way too much.


But: Perry roools.

No..? - Fuck you then. (respectfully)


John -

Who asked for your opinion, Pirka? Put on your leather coat, grab your bottle of homemade liquor and go back to letting your ass get rooled by mummipappa.

[Angel]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

By the way, Fuck You RobbieG. I still hope you catch AIDS this weekend.

Do you and RobbieG have a date this weekend or something?

[Saint John]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

By the way, Fuck You RobbieG. I still hope you catch AIDS this weekend.

Do you and RobbieG have a date this weekend or something?

Ouch!

[YoungJRNY]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

By the way, Fuck You RobbieG. I still hope you catch AIDS this weekend.

Do you and RobbieG have a date this weekend or something?

One of the great comebacks I've seen in the world of MR (well, technically not a comeback since Dean didn't say it to Angel, but still good nonetheless.):lol:

[Angel]

That was actually an awesome review by Dean, and it was honest about the music on Generations.

I am embarrassed to have been the author of that review. I was wrong on ALL accounts.

By the way, Fuck You RobbieG. I still hope you catch AIDS this weekend.

Do you and RobbieG have a date this weekend or something?

One of the great comebacks I've seen in the world of MR (well, technically not a comeback since Dean didn't say it to Angel, but still good nonetheless.):lol:

Thank you, thank you very much!