Ok, it's official!

[Jana]

10x better! I love it.

So, can you pry more than a 30 second clip out of mgt.? 10 more weeks seems a long time to try to maintain momentum without something more to drip-feed the hard-core fans.

Hmmm, are you being funny, or did you miss the fact he has the whole album now?

I have the feeling he's had it for a while ... given the "constant repeat" comments. I meant permission to put more than that one 30-second clip on his site for us to listen to.

I agree. I wish they would release a single a month ahead of the album. Bands and pop acts do it all the time. Even if it gets no radio play, it will get a lot of YouTube hits and melodic rock sites playing it and will build interest for the album. But, at the very least, a minute or more clip of one of their songs.

[kgdjpubs]

ok, better question. Apparently, it's a great album. Do you think it will appeal to the casual Journey fanbase? ie....will it sell?

[Andrew]

ok, better question. Apparently, it's a great album. Do you think it will appeal to the casual Journey fanbase? ie....will it sell?

I hope so. I really hope so. I can't imagine any regular fan of the band not loving this. Might frighten a few off though!

[The_Noble_Cause]

I hope so. I really hope so. I can't imagine any regular fan of the band not loving this. Might frighten a few off though!

Given how many longtime fans reacted negatively to Red 13 and keyboard-free tracks like The Time, we shall see.

[kgdjpubs]

Survivor had a drastic change in a much harder direction on their "Too Hot To Sleep" album as opposed to their "When Seconds Count" album. Is Journey's harder Rocking direction on "Eclipse" as opposed to that of "Revelation" as drastic, or even more drastic?

Can't speak for Eclipse, but Too Hot to Sleep was only dramatic in change for JJ-era Survivor. More of a throwback to the Bickler era mixed with some of the WSC sound more than anything else. THTS is a bit heavier, but not that far stylewise from Caught in the Game.

Just hope that Eclipse finds an audience....which is something that Too Hot to Sleep sadly didn't.

[slucero]

it could be that pre-Perry era Journey jam-band fans may take to it easier than the Perry era fans... as it has more progressive/fusion qualities than the more "pop" Perry-esque style...

[kgdjpubs]

I hope so. I really hope so. I can't imagine any regular fan of the band not loving this. Might frighten a few off though!

Given how many longtime fans reacted negatively to Red 13 and keyboard-free tracks like The Time, we shall see.

I always thought the main issue with Red13 was the lack of choruses. The songs themselves were strong. They just needed a "Journeyish" chorus written in, and the song structure tightened up.--which is where an outside producer would have helped.

[steveo777]

I hope so. I really hope so. I can't imagine any regular fan of the band not loving this. Might frighten a few off though!

Given how many longtime fans reacted negatively to Red 13 and keyboard-free tracks like The Time, we shall see.

While I would like to see this album sell well, screw the casual fans, if they don't like it. This was an opportunity for artistic expression and
it looks like the band took it. I'm sure Neal feels liberated....finally. They'll continue to do well touring and this album's
sales won't make or break anything. Infact, they might just expand their fanbase a lot.

[Andrew]

I hope so. I really hope so. I can't imagine any regular fan of the band not loving this. Might frighten a few off though!

Given how many longtime fans reacted negatively to Red 13 and keyboard-free tracks like The Time, we shall see.

True, but this is nothing like Red 13. This is big, epic and lots and lots of melodies.....

[Rip Rokken]

Ok.

ECLIPSE is a MASTERPIECE.

...........

There is no way this band could EVER have recorded tis album with Steve P. No offence to Steve, but it simply rocks so much and Arnel is pushed the outer limits of human ability with some wailing vocals. And you know what - he spends a lot of the album signing in his own natural timbre, not trying to be SP or anyone else. And it works so well.

The songs - not one week moment on there at all. Not one song I would ever skip due to any particular mood. It has to be played thru from start to finish every time - but you'll need over 60 mins to do so!

More thoughts to come - but this has to be considered a classic. Simply put - it is one of the FINEST albums I have heard in my time running this site and has immediately declared itself to be one of my favourite Journey albums EVER.

Well, I'll be! I'll be standing by to pass out the fool's hats come May once it rocks everyone's faces off. Sounds like I better order a few extras.



Thanks for the review!!!!

[VirgilTheart]

Well, I'll be! I'll be standing by to pass out the fool's hats come May once it rocks everyone's faces off. Sounds like I better order a few extras.



Thanks for the review!!!!

Need any help passing out the hats in May? I'd be glad to help.

[steveo777]

Ok.

ECLIPSE is a MASTERPIECE.

...........

There is no way this band could EVER have recorded tis album with Steve P. No offence to Steve, but it simply rocks so much and Arnel is pushed the outer limits of human ability with some wailing vocals. And you know what - he spends a lot of the album signing in his own natural timbre, not trying to be SP or anyone else. And it works so well.

The songs - not one week moment on there at all. Not one song I would ever skip due to any particular mood. It has to be played thru from start to finish every time - but you'll need over 60 mins to do so!

More thoughts to come - but this has to be considered a classic. Simply put - it is one of the FINEST albums I have heard in my time running this site and has immediately declared itself to be one of my favourite Journey albums EVER.

Well, I'll be! I'll be standing by to pass out the fool's hats come May once it rocks everyone's faces off. Sounds like I better order a few extras.



Thanks for the review!!!!

Can I pre-order one for S2M?

[S2M]

Ok.

ECLIPSE is a MASTERPIECE.

...........

There is no way this band could EVER have recorded tis album with Steve P. No offence to Steve, but it simply rocks so much and Arnel is pushed the outer limits of human ability with some wailing vocals. And you know what - he spends a lot of the album signing in his own natural timbre, not trying to be SP or anyone else. And it works so well.

The songs - not one week moment on there at all. Not one song I would ever skip due to any particular mood. It has to be played thru from start to finish every time - but you'll need over 60 mins to do so!

More thoughts to come - but this has to be considered a classic. Simply put - it is one of the FINEST albums I have heard in my time running this site and has immediately declared itself to be one of my favourite Journey albums EVER.

Well, I'll be! I'll be standing by to pass out the fool's hats come May once it rocks everyone's faces off. Sounds like I better order a few extras.



Thanks for the review!!!!

Can I pre-order one for S2M?

I'll be the second person on this board to hear the tracks.....but thanks anyway, Chumly.

[Andrew]

I'll be the second person on this board to hear the tracks.....but thanks anyway, Chumly.

Almost as funny as Richard Pryor in his prime....S2M keeps delivering!

[Andrew]

I hope so. I really hope so. I can't imagine any regular fan of the band not loving this. Might frighten a few off though!

Given how many longtime fans reacted negatively to Red 13 and keyboard-free tracks like The Time, we shall see.

I just listened to Red 13 again....there is a little Eclipse vibe in maybe Walking Away or State Of Grace, but that's it. Eclipse is heavier and more guitars....but importantly, CHORUSES and much much better and catchier songwriting.

Red 13 is experimental, btu Eclipse has a definite purpose.

[S2M]

I'll be the second person on this board to hear the tracks.....but thanks anyway, Chumly.

Almost as funny as Richard Pryor in his prime....S2M keeps delivering!

I aims to please...everybody knows that.

[Journey/Survivor]

Survivor had a drastic change in a much harder direction on their "Too Hot To Sleep" album as opposed to their "When Seconds Count" album. Is Journey's harder Rocking direction on "Eclipse" as opposed to that of "Revelation" as drastic, or even more drastic?

Can't speak for Eclipse, but Too Hot to Sleep was only dramatic in change for JJ-era Survivor. More of a throwback to the Bickler era mixed with some of the WSC sound more than anything else. THTS is a bit heavier, but not that far stylewise from Caught in the Game.

Just hope that Eclipse finds an audience....which is something that Too Hot to Sleep sadly didn't.

Right.

I know that the Bickler era Survivor albums Rock almost as much as "Too Hot To Sleep" does, especially the "Caught In The Game" album.

I just mean that "Too Hot To Sleep" Rocks way harder than their previous album "When Seconds Count" does. And I just wondered if it's as big of a difference between "Revelation" and "Eclipse?" I figured that it is.

[Rip Rokken]

Well, I'll be! I'll be standing by to pass out the fool's hats come May once it rocks everyone's faces off. Sounds like I better order a few extras.



Thanks for the review!!!!

Need any help passing out the hats in May? I'd be glad to help.

Can I pre-order one for S2M?

Love it... Hey, I'm not into "no gloat" policies by any stretch. Where's the fun in that? Do you think this style will do?

[steveo777]

Well, I'll be! I'll be standing by to pass out the fool's hats come May once it rocks everyone's faces off. Sounds like I better order a few extras.



Thanks for the review!!!!

Need any help passing out the hats in May? I'd be glad to help.

Can I pre-order one for S2M?

Love it... Hey, I'm not into "no gloat" policies by any stretch. Where's the fun in that? Do you think this style will do?

You make Friga proud!

[Real rock fan]

Andrew, does Deen get a look in on lead vocal duties at any time during the album?

[Andrew]

Andrew, does Deen get a look in on lead vocal duties at any time during the album?

No, just Arnel. Plenty of harmonies all over. Otherwise it I'd just Arnel blowing his lungs apart.

[Real rock fan]

Andrew, does Deen get a look in on lead vocal duties at any time during the album?

No, just Arnel. Plenty of harmonies all over. Otherwise it I'd just Arnel blowing his lungs apart.

Glad to hear it, thanks

[Melissa]

Hmm, while ordering hats, make sure to order more for some others here who claimed Journey shouldn't be a hard rock band, or heavy, and would never take a hard rock approach, and blah, blah, blah

[Ligzig]

Hmm, while ordering hats, make sure to order more for some others here who claimed Journey shouldn't be a hard rock band, or heavy, and would never take a hard rock approach, and blah, blah, blah

How about a good ol' Dunce cap?

[koberry]

I hope so. I really hope so. I can't imagine any regular fan of the band not loving this. Might frighten a few off though!

Given how many longtime fans reacted negatively to Red 13 and keyboard-free tracks like The Time, we shall see.

I just listened to Red 13 again....there is a little Eclipse vibe in maybe Walking Away or State Of Grace, but that's it. Eclipse is heavier and more guitars....but importantly, CHORUSES and much much better and catchier songwriting.

Red 13 is experimental, btu Eclipse has a definite purpose.

The Time is an all-time fav of mine, always thought it was really strong. Surprised others here didn't take to it

[Melissa]

Hmm, while ordering hats, make sure to order more for some others here who claimed Journey shouldn't be a hard rock band, or heavy, and would never take a hard rock approach, and blah, blah, blah

How about a good ol' Dunce cap?

Yeah that would work

[mick]

Hey Andrew. Thanks for the review. Just curious what you thought of Arnel's songwriting contributions on She's A Mystery and the other tune. Sorry can't recall the other song's name.

[Michigan Girl]

I can't wait to see what the people who didn't want Journey to take a harder direction, oh, a few years ago, have to say about it after some spins. I hope it's so hard they can't walk straight for weeks.

'tis true!! If they were ever worried about abandoning their fan base, they
should've gone ahead and done it years ago...it wouldn't come as such a
shock now ...to the 20~40% of the loon fanbase who are lucky enough
to still be alive ...things sound promising from Andrew, I hope I like it ...the vox will tell!!

[Michigan Girl]

Heavy and melodic...but is it catchy? With 'heavy and melodic' you could be talking about Anthrax. With 'dark and moody' you could be talking about King Diamond...neither is catchy.

And a 5 guitared layer of sound? hard to duplicate in concert. Journey has always been a band that releases stuff based on the current limitations of it's lead singer. I have no doubt that SP couldn't sing this album. I'm sure he wouldn't want to either.

Journey has no identity, and hasn't since TBF. And it's sad, really....

You don't want it to be good.

Wrong. To me, this is like going from RATKOS to ELAHE....ROR being ELAHE, and the last 4 albums/EP have been RATKOS.

I wish Journey would get their asses together and realize their legacy. An SP-led Journey with a diminished voice is better than the trash they've been releasing for 10 years....sorry.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^word!

Did you really just quote yourself?

Does it really surprise you, JSS? S2M is his own cheerleader.

I just got the image of him with Danger Danger pom poms...

I'll shake my poms for them too!!

[Michigan Girl]

Just want to take a moment, without sounding like a total ass kisser, to say thank you, Andrew! I, for one, appreciate
what you have told us so far. I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on the album!

Puleeze ...you'll always be just an ass to me!!
Quit trying to anoint yourself!!