Nashville - 9/13/11

by **onmyjrny** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:56 pm

Gideon wrote:

^ Jon Cain and his silver pimp suit.

OMG, who is dressing that man??? Haven't seen anything this bad since ROR tour!

by **Arkansas** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:21 am

onmyjrny wrote:OMG, who is dressing that man??? Haven't seen anything this bad since ROR tour!

He lives in Nashville now. Doesn't everyone want to be Porter Wagoner?

later~

by **fightingilliniJRNY** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:25 am

Holy shit, this topic has 20,000 views. :lol:

by **Arkansas** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:54 am

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Holy shit, this topic has 20,000 views.

I wonder how many of these hits can be attributed to that Salahi whackjob? I'd bet a great number of general web searches on her return Journey/Nashville...which could point directly to this thread.

later~

by **Michigan Girl** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:59 am

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Fightingillini, good call on hearing people who were "worn out" and "had to leave." Unfortunately, it's got nothing to do with loudness. It has everything to do with the muddiness of the mix. Your ears are straining VERY hard to discern the different aspects of the music in the mix. There are no dynamics because there's no separation between the instruments. There's a quasi-technical/scientific term for this phenomenon called "listener (or ear) fatigue." A few people I was with in the Cleveland show experienced the same thing. Check out http://www.turnmeup.org/ for some good articles.

Thanks for the explanation. I couldn't put my finger on why my ears hurt during the show, and I'm certainly not a person who can't handle loud music. Interesting to realize that it's because of the muddiness of the mix. It's annoying as hell, whatever it is.

Ehwmatt wrote:Re: Edge of the Moment. I thought that was a horrific song live (and not much better on the album). At this point, it's obvious Neal just enjoys playing the guitar parts on that song. It's a real dud of a song.

I don't mind it on the album, but it was a complete mess live. Probably partly because you could not discern any of the lyrics, and it wasn't because of Arnel's diction. It was just a bunch of jumbled guitar riffs and words. Complete mess. Why they don't swap it out for something else baffles me.

I, too, appreciate this inf., Matty, I don't believe I've ever experienced this ...
and thanks for the review, fightingilliniJRNY.

We've been hearing about the sound issues pretty much throughout, from various sources, the
question is, are they trying to correct the problem?!? Did the Memphis people notice it?!?
I am much more concerned about this problem than what songs they play and the order in which
they play them.

by **fightingilliniJRNY** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:15 am

Michigan Girl wrote:We've been hearing about the sound issues pretty much throughout, from various sources, the
question is, are they trying to correct the problem?!? Did the Memphis people notice it?!?
I am much more concerned about this problem than what songs they play and the order in which
they play them.

I find this hard to believe, but I'm starting to wonder if they don't know that it's not coming across well in the venues. Obviously they sound check it, but maybe the key decision-makers on how the sound is mixed (and I'm not talking about the sound guy - he does what the band says) aren't getting the full effect of an entire show performed at these levels.

Again, this is a stretch, but I find it extremely hard to believe they know are oblivious to the professional and fan reviews that are dragging Journey's mix through the mud compared to Night Ranger and Foreigner. But then again, it's Journey... so who the fuck knows what they are thinking. :lol:

by **Rip Rokken** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:32 am

From reports from friends on the floor and high up in the stands, the sound was great in Memphis.

by **Behshad** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:41 am

Saint John wrote:Huge brawl. Almost had stop the show. I have it on my phone I think.

Well?

by **Deb** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:57 am

Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:Huge brawl. Almost had stop the show. I have it on my phone I think.

Well?

He's sick, cut him some slack. :lol:

Not to mention.....do you actually think Dan knows how to get a vid from his phone to the computer? :lol:

by **Behshad** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:01 am

Deb wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:Huge brawl. Almost had stop the show. I have it on my phone I think.

Well?

He's sick, cut him some slack.

Not to mention.....do you actually think Dan knows how to get a vid from his phone to the computer?

Im sure with his iPhone 4 he can find a way to copy the video, what Im worried is he THOUGHT he was recording the brawl, but he had the front facing camera on instead , recoding his drunken face !

by **artist4perry** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:18 am

Behshad wrote:
Deb wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Saint John wrote:Huge brawl. Almost had stop the show. I have it on my phone I think.

Well?

He's sick, cut him some slack.

Not to mention.....do you actually think Dan knows how to get a vid from his phone to the computer?

Im sure with his iPhone 4 he can find a way to copy the video, what Im worried is he THOUGHT he was recording the brawl, but he had the front facing camera on instead , recoding his drunken face !

He was not drunk at all, and I saw the video he taped on his phone. He just needs someone tech savoy to help him load it.

by **FormerJrnyFan** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:35 am

Great review, Gideon, thanks!

Agreed that Night Ranger rocked & Kelly was awesome (here in NY). Can't comment on Journey since I'm a former fan tho :roll:

by **Michigan Girl** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:35 am

B's a liar?!? Sour Grapes?!?!
Troublemaker ...picking fights ...starting rumors
I love him!! :wink:

by **Michigan Girl** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:39 am

FormerJrnyFan wrote: Can't comment on Journey since I'm a former fan tho

How about just the sound ...was it an issue for you?!?

Website · by **steveo777** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:27 am

This thread now has over 23,000 views! :shock:

Why?

by **Saint John** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:27 am

BB should have the video by now. He called me back and explained how to send it. It's a really short video. I had to scramble and put my phone away after about 30-40 seconds because one of the security guards saw me recording. But there were about 6-10 people fighting. It moved a good 20 feet down the aisle.

by **artist4perry** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:33 am

Saint John wrote:BB should have the video by now. He called me back and explained how to send it. It's a really short video. I had to scramble and put my phone away after about 30-40 seconds because one of the security guards saw me recording. But there were about 6-10 people fighting. It moved a good 20 feet down the aisle.

Cool! That was some extra entertainment huh? LOL
:shock:

My Dan put me between him and Dan to keep me from getting hurt with the fighting breaking out on both sides. I was in a Dan Sandwich! :shock:

by **Rick** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:47 am

steveo777 wrote:This thread now has over 23,000 views! Why?

Someone's refresh button got stuck?

by **Gideon** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:49 am

Thanks for the thanks, guys. Can't wait to see this raw footage of Dan's.

by **Saint John** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:53 am

Gideon wrote:Can't wait to see this raw footage of Dan's.

Well, I sent it to Behshad, but he said the quality was lost on the transfer so I e-mailed it to him. I'm guessing he'll have it on here tonight. Don't be surprised if it also shows up on Al Jazeera. :lol:

by **Gideon** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:56 am

Saint John wrote:
Gideon wrote:Can't wait to see this raw footage of Dan's.

Well, I sent it to Behshad, but he said the quality was lost on the transfer so I e-mailed it to him. I'm guessing he'll have it on here tonight. Don't be surprised if it also shows up on Al Jazeera.

Behshad certainly is an information broker of epic proportions. :lol:

What about your review of Memphis?

by **Saint John** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:58 am

Gideon wrote:What about your review of Memphis?

Gonna try and post that and the brawl footage together in a new thread.

by **Gideon** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:59 am

Saint John wrote:
Gideon wrote:What about your review of Memphis?

Gonna try and post that and the brawl footage together in a new thread.

Well if the Memphis thread I provided isn't good enough for you, then by all means. :evil:

by **Gideon** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:00 am

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:City Of Hope went over decently well, but Edge Of The Moment was a complete dud.

Speaking of this, it must be said that EOTM saw pretty much everyone on the floor and in the stands minus the few rows closest to the stage drop like flies. Me and my party were the only ones in the vicinity who remained standing.

by **FormerJrnyFan** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:03 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
FormerJrnyFan wrote: Can't comment on Journey since I'm a former fan tho

How about just the sound ...was it an issue for you?!?

Couldn't even tell you what I thought about the sound. Arnel just doesn't do it for me. Great voice, but for some reason, I was ready to leave after a handful of Journey songs :roll:

by **Gideon** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:21 am

FormerJrnyFan wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
FormerJrnyFan wrote: Can't comment on Journey since I'm a former fan tho

How about just the sound ...was it an issue for you?!?

Couldn't even tell you what I thought about the sound. Arnel just doesn't do it for me. Great voice, but for some reason, I was ready to leave after a handful of Journey songs

Having seen Hansen and Pineda in the same night, I understand now what people meant when they compared them. Arnel is possibly the most physically active frontman they've ever had, and he's charismatic, but he's not commanding. Hansen had a natural confidence about him that screamed leader. I stand by my judgment: Arnel has the pipes, he just needs the polish.

by **Behshad** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:30 am

Gideon wrote:
FormerJrnyFan wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
FormerJrnyFan wrote: Can't comment on Journey since I'm a former fan tho

How about just the sound ...was it an issue for you?!?

Couldn't even tell you what I thought about the sound. Arnel just doesn't do it for me. Great voice, but for some reason, I was ready to leave after a handful of Journey songs

Having seen Hansen and Pineda in the same night, I understand now what people meant when they compared them. Arnel is possibly the most physically active frontman they've ever had, and he's charismatic, but he's not commanding. Hansen had a natural confidence about him that screamed leader. I stand by my judgment: Arnel has the pipes, he just needs the polish.