Steve Augeri new single 'Photograph'

[Pelata]

That's the first thing I thought...if he was "never" on pitch, why hire him? That makes zero sense...

[The_Noble_Cause]

Please retire Steve. You helped bring Journey back to life, but man...this is embarassing. Hell of a guy, but, geez...

Steve's great. Fuck off.

[MCC620]

Please retire Steve. You helped bring Journey back to life, but man...this is embarassing. Hell of a guy, but, geez...

Steve's great. Fuck off.

PLEASE NOTE.....I DID NOT HACK INTO NOBLE'S ACCOUNT

[musicfan17]

Here's the thing, I bought both of his singles, I like them. He sounds fine in the studio, and the You Tube stuff is about 50/50, it's clear he struggles with some material and will never sound like he did 98-2000 again. But I enjoyed him in Journey.

[george_g]

Here's the thing, I bought both of his singles, I like them. He sounds fine in the studio, and the You Tube stuff is about 50/50, it's clear he struggles with some material and will never sound like he did 98-2000 again. But I enjoyed him in Journey.

I also bought his first one , waiting to get the second via itunes. I listened to 2 more songs via a UK radio show couple of days ago...they sound good and i will buy his full record. I've always liked Augeri, but at the end with Journey the story hurt him. I understand if his voice isn't perfect right now , i just don't get why they say so horrible things about him for the past; 'he was never on pitch' ???? Like Schon would hire somebody so untalented? They even rejected Geoff Tate back then! Well, either people are just throwing mud in the air , or there is just something we ignore. If it is the second i would be curious to know of course..

[Seven Wishes2]

Please retire Steve. You helped bring Journey back to life, but man...this is embarassing. Hell of a guy, but, geez...

Steve's great. Fuck off.

OK. And your name is, what, Pete Augieri I assume you're, what, a third cousin?

[knox]

Guys, I get it... That there is a strong emotional attachment to Steve A.

But why does that override the obvious fact that his voice is shot?

Sure, you support him no matter what. But what is it that's keeping you from saying "You're right. He just sounds bad these days"?

Heck, I LOVE Perry's voice from the late 70's and early 80's. But I can also admit he has lost it.

I just don't understand this blind, no - DEAF loyalty to Steve A.

[MCC620]

Guys, I get it... That there is a strong emotional attachment to Steve A.

But why does that override the obvious fact that his voice is shot?

Sure, you support him no matter what. But what is it that's keeping you from saying "You're right. He just sounds bad these days"?

Heck, I LOVE Perry's voice from the late 70's and early 80's. But I can also admit he has lost it.

I just don't understand this blind, no - DEAF loyalty to Steve A.

because his voice is not shot and he does not sound bad. until you go to a show and can say that his voice is shot, i will continue to disagree with you.

and i'm just curious why everyone is so insistent perry can't sing based on the one time he chose to sing while overcome with the excitement of the world series win parade thing. until he opens his mouth to sing and can't, he just doesn't want to as far as i am concerned.

[knox]

Guys, I get it... That there is a strong emotional attachment to Steve A.

But why does that override the obvious fact that his voice is shot?

Sure, you support him no matter what. But what is it that's keeping you from saying "You're right. He just sounds bad these days"?

Heck, I LOVE Perry's voice from the late 70's and early 80's. But I can also admit he has lost it.

I just don't understand this blind, no - DEAF loyalty to Steve A.

because his voice is not shot and he does not sound bad. until you go to a show and can say that his voice is shot, i will continue to disagree with you.

and i'm just curious why everyone is so insistent perry can't sing based on the one time he chose to sing while overcome with the excitement of the world series win parade thing. until he opens his mouth to sing and can't, he just doesn't want to as far as i am concerned.

So, are you saying that EVERY SINGLE Youtube video of Augeri sounding like garbage is in no way indicative of his vocal abilities?

[MCC620]

Guys, I get it... That there is a strong emotional attachment to Steve A.

But why does that override the obvious fact that his voice is shot?

Sure, you support him no matter what. But what is it that's keeping you from saying "You're right. He just sounds bad these days"?

Heck, I LOVE Perry's voice from the late 70's and early 80's. But I can also admit he has lost it.

I just don't understand this blind, no - DEAF loyalty to Steve A.

because his voice is not shot and he does not sound bad. until you go to a show and can say that his voice is shot, i will continue to disagree with you.

and i'm just curious why everyone is so insistent perry can't sing based on the one time he chose to sing while overcome with the excitement of the world series win parade thing. until he opens his mouth to sing and can't, he just doesn't want to as far as i am concerned.

So, are you saying that EVERY SINGLE Youtube video of Augeri sounding like garbage is in no way indicative of his vocal abilities?

i've seen the videos and i keep saying not to judge him by them. some are better than others. i have been to several shows this year and the majority have been great. definitely a rough spot here or there but that's a live show.

i know for a fact that he had REO fans giving him and his band a standing ovation when they opened for them back in June. I watched the crowd at Parx Casino rocking the place like crazy(some from here were in attendance).

i think Steve has come a long way from when i first heard him sing after Journey back in 2008 and for me he just keeps getting better. Especially when he is singing his songs.

you don't have to love him, like him or support him, but really the "get a new hobby, stop singing" crap is what annoys me. especially when it's based on youtube and not first hand experience.

[knox]

Why would I NOT judge his voice by those videos? I find it hard to believe he sounds better in person, and if he does, maybe it's just the power of positive thinking - WANTING him to sound good because you are there...

Here's a crappy Youtube video. Why does Sara sound so good? And Sonos backing her up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BALeNuNBzg

I can judge them by this video. Why can't I judge Augeri?

I am not saying he isn't a good guy. Not at all. But his voice is shot. Sorry...

[MCC620]

Why would I NOT judge his voice by those videos? I find it hard to believe he sounds better in person, and if he does, maybe it's just the power of positive thinking - WANTING him to sound good because you are there...

Here's a crappy Youtube video. Why does Sara sound so good? And Sonos backing her up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BALeNuNBzg

I can judge them by this video. Why can't I judge Augeri?

I am not saying he isn't a good guy. Not at all. But his voice is shot. Sorry...

you are comparing mellow music to rock and roll not a fair comparison
a) there's no band
b) the crowd is dead silent
c) she is in the orpheum theater with amazing acoustics
Augeri is in smaller venues or outdoors with a full band and people are singing along or talking and jumping around

go ahead and don't see him based on youtube.......i just said you should see him live and then if you feel the same, fine. and stop telling me i'm deaf

[AR]

Saw Steve A in Pennsylvania over the summer. Great show and $130 dollars cheaper than Journey. As a rock fan and not an American Idol karaoke anal retentive idiot, I had a blast. Also got to enjoy a better setlist.

Through the amps and in the moment - it was a lot of fun.

[knox]

Maria, I am not telling you that you are deaf, just blindly loyal, that's all.

And there isn't even anything wrong with that. It just doesn't allow you to objectively view his performances, that's all.

Regardless of the style of music, the venue, the crowd noise, or the color of his socks - vocal cracks, flat notes, off pitch sections - those don't come across the audio track by mistake.

His vocal problems have nothing to do with anything other than having vocal problems. No matter how you slice it, it is still the same.

Are you going to tell me there are excuses/reasons/ whatever for this performance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7pdgctX2l0

[AR]

Maria, I am not telling you that you are deaf, just blindly loyal, that's all.

And there isn't even anything wrong with that. It just doesn't allow you to objectively view his performances, that's all.

Regardless of the style of music, the venue, the crowd noise, or the color of his socks - vocal cracks, flat notes, off pitch sections - those don't come across the audio track by mistake.

His vocal problems have nothing to do with anything other than having vocal problems. No matter how you slice it, it is still the same.

Are you going to tell me there are excuses/reasons/ whatever for this performance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7pdgctX2l0

Fuck the YouTube. Seriously. Stop the fucking nitpicking. At the show, it rocks.

Probably on the opposite end as some. I hear Arnel's accent on all clips, but pretty positive if I went to the show it would be far less noticeable.

[Deb]

and i'm just curious why everyone is so insistent perry can't sing based on the one time he chose to sing while overcome with the excitement of the world series win parade thing. until he opens his mouth to sing and can't, he just doesn't want to as far as i am concerned.

Bingo! Sure he didn't sound too great at that impromtu rally thing, but I thought he sounded pretty damn good singing to this reporter on the field at the same series. I think he's still got it, his pipes sounded great at the end there........... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPxX0VwHu-I

Sure, he hasn't been singing publicly for years and is probably rusty, but I think if he wanted to and worked at it he would sound pretty damn good. Besides, put a side that a few of his friends like Lora, Cyndy, Joe Bensen etc have heard more recent stuff from him and like what they heard.....I believe them. I have a pretty good idea of CP's and LB's vocal tastes. Very similiar to my own......especially when it comes to Perry and Martin. So I know they know great pipes when they hear 'em. And I would bet good money that he does still sound great on the demos he shared for their ears................as I believe, if he didn't still sound good, they just wouldn't have posted an opinion at all on what they heard.

[knox]

Saw Steve A in Pennsylvania over the summer. Great show and $130 dollars cheaper than Journey. As a rock fan and not an American Idol karaoke anal retentive idiot, I had a blast. Also got to enjoy a better setlist.

Through the amps and in the moment - it was a lot of fun.

Talent is talent, no matter how you label it. You can insult American Idol all you want, want Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood are the real deal. American Idol was just a venue to get their talent out there.

And if enjoying true vocal talent - regardless of where it comes from - is bad in your eyes... I really don't care.

One thing those shows do, whether you like it or not, is showcase pure vocal ability. No tricks. They can either sing or they can't.

[DrFU]

and i'm just curious why everyone is so insistent perry can't sing based on the one time he chose to sing while overcome with the excitement of the world series win parade thing. until he opens his mouth to sing and can't, he just doesn't want to as far as i am concerned.

Bingo! Sure he didn't sound too great at that impromtu rally thing, but I thought he sounded pretty damn good singing to this reporter on the field at the same series. I think he's still got it, his pipes sounded great at the end there........... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPxX0VwHu-I

Sure, he hasn't been singing publicly for years and is probably rusty, but I think if he wanted to and worked at it he would sound pretty damn good. Besides, put a side that a few of his friends like Lora, Cyndy, Joe Bensen etc have heard more recent stuff from him and like what they heard.....I believe them. I have a pretty good idea of CP's and LB's vocal tastes. Very similiar to my own......especially when it comes to Perry and Martin. So I know they know soulful pipes when they hear 'em. And I would bet good money that he does still sound great on the demos he shared for their ears................as I believe, if he didn't still sound good, they just wouldn't have posted an opinion at all on what they heard.

Frozen and Crazy .... the new Canadian National Anthem?

Looking forward to hearing Photograph live two weeks from Saturday ... expect SA's band to be like all the rest at Firefest ... live, loud, and rockin' the joint. That's the whole point; fuck perfection.

[AR]

Saw Steve A in Pennsylvania over the summer. Great show and $130 dollars cheaper than Journey. As a rock fan and not an American Idol karaoke anal retentive idiot, I had a blast. Also got to enjoy a better setlist.

Through the amps and in the moment - it was a lot of fun.

Talent is talent, no matter how you label it. You can insult American Idol all you want, want Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood are the real deal. American Idol was just a venue to get their talent out there.

And if enjoying true vocal talent - regardless of where it comes from - is bad in your eyes... I really don't care.

One thing those shows do, whether you like it or not, is showcase pure vocal ability. No tricks. They can either sing or they can't.

Bruce Springsteen
David Lee Roth
Mick Jagger

Again, stop the madness with this crooning fascination. It's very un-rock and a little gay (NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT)

[MCC620]

Maria, I am not telling you that you are deaf, just blindly loyal, that's all.

And there isn't even anything wrong with that. It just doesn't allow you to objectively view his performances, that's all.

Regardless of the style of music, the venue, the crowd noise, or the color of his socks - vocal cracks, flat notes, off pitch sections - those don't come across the audio track by mistake.

His vocal problems have nothing to do with anything other than having vocal problems. No matter how you slice it, it is still the same.

Are you going to tell me there are excuses/reasons/ whatever for this performance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7pdgctX2l0

That was his last show with Journey! 5 years ago...he was sick!

are you kidding me that you are using that to tell me that, today in 2011 he can't sing!??!?!

[MCC620]

and i'm just curious why everyone is so insistent perry can't sing based on the one time he chose to sing while overcome with the excitement of the world series win parade thing. until he opens his mouth to sing and can't, he just doesn't want to as far as i am concerned.

Bingo! Sure he didn't sound too great at that impromtu rally thing, but I thought he sounded pretty damn good singing to this reporter on the field at the same series. I think he's still got it, his pipes sounded great at the end there........... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPxX0VwHu-I

Sure, he hasn't been singing publicly for years and is probably rusty, but I think if he wanted to and worked at it he would sound pretty damn good. Besides, put a side that a few of his friends like Lora, Cyndy, Joe Bensen etc have heard more recent stuff from him and like what they heard.....I believe them. I have a pretty good idea of CP's and LB's vocal tastes. Very similiar to my own......especially when it comes to Perry and Martin. So I know they know soulful pipes when they hear 'em. And I would bet good money that he does still sound great on the demos he shared for their ears................as I believe, if he didn't still sound good, they just wouldn't have posted an opinion at all on what they heard.

Frozen and Crazy .... the new Canadian National Anthem?

Looking forward to hearing Photograph live two weeks from Saturday ... expect SA's band to be like all the rest at Firefest ... live, loud, and rockin' the joint. That's the whole point; fuck perfection.

AMEN! I'll be there with ya!

[Deb]

One thing those shows do, whether you like it or not, is showcase pure vocal ability. No tricks. They can either sing or they can't.

True dat! Sometimes some great talent comes out of those shows...........like this dude.

Friggin killer soulful delivery...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldp_KWe9gao

[Andrew]

That was his last show with Journey! 5 years ago...he was sick!

are you kidding me that you are using that to tell me that, today in 2011 he can't sing!??!?!

[knox]

F**k perfection?

In other words, "I will pay to see an artist, knowing that he is not as good at his craft as he used to be, and in fact, sometimes sounds like crap" (See Augeri's Last Concert with Journey Youtube vids).

I can respect that. I really can. Much more than "He still sounds as good as he used to", when he clearly does not.

And as for Perry's current vocal state? From my VERY limited knowledge of Steve Perry, I don't think his ego would allow him NOT to put out music if he could still belt it out. I don't mean that in a bad way necessarily. Egos are good to have in sports and entertainment. I bet he would give nearly anything to be able to sing Patiently like he could in the late 70's.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts. Like 'em. Hate 'em. Bash 'em. It really doesn't matter. I am just enjoying the conversation.

[AR]

One thing those shows do, whether you like it or not, is showcase pure vocal ability. No tricks. They can either sing or they can't.

True dat! Sometimes some great talent comes out of those shows...........like this dude.

Friggin killer soulful delivery...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldp_KWe9gao

American Idol is the feminization of rock music. It's also a lame fake version of Star Search, where they at least showcase BANDS not karaoke crooners.

[knox]

Maria, I am MORE than open to be proven wrong. Link me a live clip where Augeri sounds great.

This is NOT personal. I have nothing against Steve. I just have a problem with blind followers of ANYTHING, denying problems when they are clearly on display.

For all I know, the guy could sound GREAT right now. I just have too many vids at my disposal proving the opposite.

[knox]

One thing those shows do, whether you like it or not, is showcase pure vocal ability. No tricks. They can either sing or they can't.

True dat! Sometimes some great talent comes out of those shows...........like this dude.

Friggin killer soulful delivery...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldp_KWe9gao

American Idol is the feminization of rock music. It's also a lame fake version of Star Search, where they at least showcase BANDS not karaoke crooners.

I don't even watch American Idol. The last few winners, from what I understand, haven't done much.

But I DO love Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson. And I know they were discovered on that show. And they are certainly the "Real Deal". Kelly has one of the most powerful voices in music today (along with Stacy Ferguson - man, can she sing Barracuda!)

[AR]

Maria, I am MORE than open to be proven wrong. Link me a live clip where Augeri sounds great.

This is NOT personal. I have nothing against Steve. I just have a problem with blind followers of ANYTHING, denying problems when they are clearly on display.

For all I know, the guy could sound GREAT right now. I just have too many vids at my disposal proving the opposite.

Go to a show. Youtube never gives the true picture. Rock is not about some light in the loafers guy being pitch perfect (even with Journey)

[JRNYMAN]

Maria, I am MORE than open to be proven wrong. Link me a live clip where Augeri sounds great.

This is NOT personal. I have nothing against Steve. I just have a problem with blind followers of ANYTHING, denying problems when they are clearly on display.

For all I know, the guy could sound GREAT right now. I just have too many vids at my disposal proving the opposite.

Are you serious with that question Knox? I mean is it as open-ended as it sounds meaning you've yet to hear a single clip of Steve sounding great? Or, do you mean a recent clip of the song in question? 'Cause, if the former is true, get ready to be bombarded with clips providing proof positive that SA has/had the ability to sound incredible.

[Deb]

Frozen and Crazy .... the new Canadian National Anthem?

You betchya! Always been a little crazzzzy and with winter coming in...........frozen is quite appropo. Was listening to that the other day, and was thinking.....daaayum, Jeff and BJ's vocals sound GREAT together there at the end of Frozen, their vocals mesh extremely well on that.