Fred Likes Journey:)

[fred_journeyman]

Hey Kids,

Just thought I'd stop in for a minute. Dave, you weren't kidding...even when I haven't been here for MONTHS, people continue to accuse me of being incognito. Oh well. Life goes on for most, yet I see a few are stunted. It is absolutely amazing to me that here it is months since I've been here and still the same arguments rage on, over and over and over and over...what a frickin' waste of time and bandwidth. Oh well. I originally stopped posting here shortly before Andrew took the Journey forum down because it had become a hell hole. I never knew he placed it back up.

The only reason I stopped in today was because Dave was kind enough to respond to my post at Back Talk (another place I haven't posted at in months) about getting my hands on the new Generations CD, and he mentioned that apparently some of you keep accusing people of being me:) Thanks for trying to straighten them out at any rate, Dave, even though I'm sure it fell on deaf ears.

Anyway, for those of you who think that I've been here on this forum, I hate to burst the bubble, but I haven't been. While I DO stop in to check out the news on Andrew's wonderful web site, I just don't have time for posting anymore. I rarely post anywhere on the 'Net in fact. My life is just too full these days with publishing a magazine, an upcoming book, two teenagers, a lovely wife, a dog, three cats and six fish in the backyard pond that we built last year.

I'm really looking forward to the new Journey CD Generations, and hopefully seeing the group in Marysville on September 30th. The clips I heard today sound great, although "Butterfly" is a bit 'ho-hum' but maybe that's because I haven't heard the whole song yet. The one Deeno sings on sounds really good, as does the other clip with Augeri.

I'm also glad to hear that Perry will be singing on Pack's CD. I'm hopeful that it's much more than simply backup vocals, or what he did on Golub's CD. What was THAT?! Worse was the time he "sang" on that Hawaiian guy's CD! Anyway, time will tell and who knows, maybe one day he'll put out another full CD of his own.

In the meantime, I'm leaving now again - really. I bet "one hundred million dollars" (with pinky finger to corner of mouth) that if I return again in 8 months, the arguments will be the same. I canNOT believe that JT is STILL here, especially considering the fact that when he was on VH1's Journey board, he admitted how he was able to be all those different people without ever getting caught or truly banned forever. Wouldn't be surprised if he was at least three different people here and he simply wouldn't be caught because of how he was able to use a different ISP for just about each post! Gee, if I had more time (and a ton more interest), I'd be happy to share that info with everyone here, but maybe Dave could do it...

You kids should fight nicely, okay? Do Andrew a favor and don't waste his bandwidth with snide remarks, because I won't be here to read them. And for those of you who still refuse to believe that I haven't been here, just consider the length of this one post. That's right, it's ME! Only Fred "talks" this much in one post.

You people are just swell:)

Carry on...

- Fred

[Rockindeano]

You're a very smart man.

[Andrew]

Damn it Deano, enough with the abuse!

[OpeningAct]

Enough with the negativity Fred!!!!!

[yak]

Hey Fred! I AM one of those accused of being YOU...by the desperate housewives.

Please come back and have a presence here, and that may keep the Perry lonlies away, since you scare the living crap right out of them. Not to mention, you always had a lot to offer when you posted.

[jrnyman28]

We will not be seeing much of Fred. And that is pretty much the point of his post. But it is nice for him to come visit.

Hi Fred, it's in the mail...

[RubyTequila]

Nice to see you again Fred

[heardonthestreet]

Cheers Fred! Att sends her regards. I think that her last post to you was when she posted you a kiss. Nice to know that you ended friends.

[perryfaithful]

Hey Kids,


- Fred

Brother...bustin' in here like some big star! Is the ego big enough? Fred, sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but you are not as important as you think you are! Back to your fish pond old man....

[The_Noble_Cause]

Brother...bustin' in here like some big star! Is the ego big enough? Fred, sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but you are not as important as you think you are! Back to your fish pond old man....

Instead of continuing on a predictable and tiring fusilade of negative personal attacks, why not use this thread (and Fred's return) as an opportunity to do something refreshingly conscientious: say, apologising to all the thousands you've wrongly misnomered as "Fred" over these recent years.

Just a sincere thought....

[OpeningAct]

Hey Kids,


- Fred

Brother...bustin' in here like some big star! Is the ego big enough? Fred, sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but you are not as important as you think you are! Back to your fish pond old man....

I never got the impression that Fred was some ego-maniac. I enjoy his posts.

[yak]

Cheers Fred! Att sends her regards. I think that her last post to you was when she posted you a kiss. Nice to know that you ended friends.

Huh? Att is you then, right? You and perryfaithful put on a brave front, to throw Fred off. You need somebody to keep you all in line and Fred is the man. Maybe then this excrement throwing would stop for good.

I always enjoyed Fred's posts. Had a lot to add. Too bad he won't be coming back.

Instead of continuing on a predictable and tiring fusilade of negative personal attacks, why not use this thread (and Fred's return) as an opportunity to do something refreshingly conscientious: say, apologising to all the thousands you've wrongly misnomered as "Fred" over these recent years.

Just a sincere thought....

That'll be the day. The HAVE nothing to add. They live for conspiracy.

[yak]

Cheers Fred! Att sends her regards. I think that her last post to you was when she posted you a kiss. Nice to know that you ended friends.

Huh? Att is you then, right? You and perryfaithful put on a brave front, to throw Fred off. You need somebody to keep you all in line and Fred is the man. Maybe then this excrement throwing would stop for good.

I always enjoyed Fred's posts. Had a lot to add. Too bad he won't be coming back.

Instead of continuing on a predictable and tiring fusilade of negative personal attacks, why not use this thread (and Fred's return) as an opportunity to do something refreshingly conscientious: say, apologising to all the thousands you've wrongly misnomered as "Fred" over these recent years.

Just a sincere thought....

That'll be the day. The HAVE nothing to add. They live for conspiracy.

[Rockindeano]

Hey I figured, why should I leave? I go to their concerts, write reviews, and even hop walls and pose as some music journalist in order to see and even talk to these guys. I contribute a lot more than "the Dark Side Skanks" and there is no way in Hell I am putting my tail between my legs and leaving.

The only time you will see me "lose it" is when "They" attempt to write something intelligent. LAWoman sort of inspired me, when she said the retorts were so juvenile(other words, but you get the point).

[NealIsGod]

Deano, did I piss you off somehow?

[mamos]

Good to see you didn't leave us for long Deano.

[heardonthestreet]

This topic really brings out the feminine side in you guys.

[Rockindeano]

Deano, did I piss you off somehow?

No, not at all. Why would you think that? NC isn't too happy with me though..or I think?

heardonthestreet- at least we have feminine sides. What's your excuse?

[NealIsGod]

Because I thought something I said was the reason you split, since you quoted me in the thread where you bid farewell! Plus you didn't respond to my PM. No biggie, glad we're cool.

[Rockindeano]

Because I thought something I said was the reason you split, since you quoted me in the thread where you bid farewell! Plus you didn't respond to my PM. No biggie, glad we're cool.

NIG- I wrote in my thread you were the coolest F*cker here..what more do you want?

[NealIsGod]

No, you said ONE OF the coolest...

[RubyTequila]

No, you said ONE OF the coolest...

I didnt even get "coolest"...I got "rare"

[Rockindeano]

No, you said ONE OF the coolest...

I didnt even get "coolest"...I got "rare"

Well you are? You come out and throw out a quick hitter than poof! gone. Stick around and join the fight....

[perryfaithful]

No, you said ONE OF the coolest...

I didnt even get "coolest"...I got "rare"

Well you are? You come out and throw out a quick hitter than poof! gone. Stick around and join the fight....

Oh for cryin' out loud! When are you guys going to be finished with the circle jerk??

[The_Noble_Cause]

Oh for cryin' out loud! When are you guys going to be finished with the circle jerk??

I say unto you again...

Instead of continuing on a predictable and tiring fusilade of negative personal attacks, why not use this thread (and Fred's return) as an opportunity to do something refreshingly conscientious: say, apologising to all the thousands you've wrongly misnomered as "Fred" over these past years.

Nasty pugnacious little girl.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Brother...bustin' in here like some big star! Is the ego big enough? Fred, sorry to burst YOUR bubble, but you are not as important as you think you are! Back to your fish pond old man....

Instead of continuing on a predictable and tiring fusilade of negative personal attacks, why not use this thread (and Fred's return) as an opportunity to do something refreshingly conscientious: say, apologising to all the thousands you've wrongly misnomered as "Fred" over these recent years.

Just a sincere thought....

It's been several weeks now, and my entreaties have gone unanswered.
Still no apology from either HOTS or PF ( both of which made it their life's mission to hound me and others of admitting to being someone we were clearly not).

Tactless pigs.

[heardonthestreet]

Oh you sweet thang! Dave set us straight sometime back and we apologized to all concerned. You look it up if it's that important to you.

As a matter of fact, we all felt that we owed Fred an apology as he was never as trashy mouthed as you.

[JourneyTroll]

The real Fred wrote:

I canNOT believe that JT is STILL here, especially considering the fact that when he was on VH1's Journey board, he admitted how he was able to be all those different people without ever getting caught or truly banned forever. Wouldn't be surprised if he was at least three different people here and he simply wouldn't be caught because of how he was able to use a different ISP for just about each post! Gee, if I had more time (and a ton more interest), I'd be happy to share that info with everyone here, but maybe Dave could do it...

Hi there, Fred.

Why can't I post here? You have posted ALOT more at Back Talk. Fred, remember the good old days when Joe Reardon, and I would post at VH1, and you wrote letters to VH1, called VH1, and emailed VH1? You had a lot of time on your hands back then. I really did enjoy ridiculing the dolts on Back Talk because of their appearances, limited education, and trailer trash lifestyle. You were ok and took a lot of abuse from Joe and me. You can thank me now because I made you a stronger person!

Fred, I only used variations on Journeytroll on VH1, and no other username. This is the only username I use on this message board.

Everyone's friend and Journey's new #1 fan....Journeytroll

[JourneyTroll]

I still believe YAK is Jrnyone at Back Talk. You know the guy from Pennsylvania that never smiles.

I still believe the Noble Cause is Ecliptic Journey (Rich) from Back Talk.

I still believe that Rock 'n Deano is Corky Thatcher from Life Goes On.

Everyone's friend and Journey's new #1 fan....Journeytroll

[The_Noble_Cause]

Dave set us straight sometime back and we apologized to all concerned.

I read every post. This simply did not happen.
You may have conceded that your assumptions were erroneous, but there was no apologizing made to me or the countless others you repeatedly falsely accused.

You look it up if it's that important to you.

No. YOU made the claim.
The burden of proof rests on YOU.
Isn't it funny, how you are always telling people to "look it up".
Why can't you ever offer your own proof of things you say?

As a matter of fact, we all felt that we owed Fred an apology as he was never as trashy mouthed as you.

Red Herring Alert.
Expletives aren't the issue here.