GOOD GRIEF..........Don't lie to yourself.

by **Free** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:39 am

Do yourself a favor. Listen to the new David Pack sample again. At the end of the clip, Perry sings the word "apart". He's not even trying to sing it at all high and his voice still cracks on just that one word alone.

I fully realize that the perry heads will never admit this. That's ok. But the rest of you folks, come on. It's ok to admit reality even if it hurts a little bit.

by **Spike** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:30 am

"a part"

It's two words.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:33 am

"apart" is in the dictionary. Means "separately in place or time". As in "Separate Ways (World's Apart).

Although I listened to the clip again, and it is used as two words: "a part of a brand new start." Good catch, Spike. You must be an English teacher!

by **Spike** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:35 am

NealIsGod wrote:"apart" is in the dictionary. Means "separately in place or time". As in "Separate Ways (World's Apart).

You're quite correct. However, in the context of this song, it is being used as a noun, "a part", not the adjective, "apart". Hence, it is two words and a break between them is not surprising.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:38 am

Edited my post above as you were posting, Spike. Again, good call.

You're a newbie, eh? Welcome.

by **Spike** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:42 am

Thank you!

No, not an English teacher, but I have a basic grasp of the language. :wink:

I'm new to posting, but I have lurked here for years. I just felt moved to register this morning.

Just to make my point clear to anyone who is pondering this, the break in this phrase is indicative of nothing more than Perry understanding the words he is singing. I feel that Free will have to try much harder to make his/her case.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:43 am

Spike wrote:Thank you!

No, not an English teacher, but I have a basic grasp of the language.

I'm new to posting, but I have lurked here for years. I just felt moved to register this morning.

Just to make my point clear to anyone who is pondering this, the break in this phrase is indicative of nothing more than Perry understanding the words he is singing. I feel that Free will have to try much harder to make his/her case.

What is this, a Goddamned English class!

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:03 am

... aaaaaand he's back! Thank God!

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:05 am

YYYYEEESSSS!!!!!!!! ROCK, my man!!!!!

We smoked you outa the bunker. What's your spin on Perry's bg vox?

by **Rockindeano** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:24 am

Red13JoePa wrote:YYYYEEESSSS!!!!!!!! ROCK, my man!!!!!

We smoked you outa the bunker. What's your spin on Perry's bg vox?

My spin? I am one of the people who has heard the entire song now...I got my secrets, no, I didn't pose as a west coast manager of production guy either :lol:

It's OK. Certainly not embarrassing, like he would or could ever be embarrassing... However, it is studio, and like I said before, studios can make anyone sound better; see Ashly Simpson.

He does sing a bit more towards the end of the song, but I am not "blown away" like I am with Generations. It seems a very safe, mild song where nothing bad can hurt him.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:09 pm

Steve Perry IS the BEST singer of all time. Write it down, you heard it first! And I am serious!

by **LAWoman** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:58 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:Steve Perry IS the BEST singer of all time. Write it down, you heard it first! And I am serious!

That's just crazy. Perry was/is a great vocalist. But "of all time" is really pushing it.

by **Rockindeano** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:40 am

LAWoman wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:Steve Perry IS the BEST singer of all time. Write it down, you heard it first! And I am serious!

That's just crazy. Perry was/is a great vocalist. But "of all time" is really pushing it.

You may be right, but He was awfully good. Ok, I retract my words to say, "My favourite of all time." How's that?

by **Abitaman** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:18 am

I have always stated that perry is "THE VOICE OF ROCK"-ERIC

by **NealIsGod** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:27 am

Thought this was an interesting thread to resurrect. Right, Free? :lol:

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:29 am

Jesus, Mary and Joseph. this camp really sticks to its guns.
:mrgreen:

There are 100s more examples where this comes from, too.

by **Free** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:31 am

NealIsGod wrote:Thought this was an interesting thread to resurrect. Right, Free?

Yes. His voice is not good right now. My hope is that he could get it into some kinda shape. Maybe work with a voice specialist.

I'd take Perry as is now over Augeri any day. Any day.

by **Rockindeano** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:34 am

Red13JoePa wrote::lol:
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. this camp really sticks to its guns.

Look who's talking. Jesus :roll:

by **Moon Beam** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:34 am

Holy Hell now you guys are highjacking year old threads?
:lol:

I see the heat has gotten to some.

I agree Free I prefer Perry anything to Steve Augeri.
But that's just my personal ears preference

by **Free** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:38 am

Spike wrote:"a part"

It's two words.

I'd forgotten about this response. But does anyone care how it's spelled. The point was that his voice was not good in this song.

Doesn't mean it can't get better. But I know some of you would rather watch Augeri lip compared to listening to current day Perry. I'm not one of you.

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:38 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote::lol:
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. this camp really sticks to its guns.

Look who's talking. Jesus

Don't worry, got some of your greatest hits coming, too.

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:39 am

Moon Beam wrote:Holy Hell now you guys are highjacking year old threads?

I see the heat has gotten to some.

I agree Free I prefer Perry anything to Steve Augeri.
But that's just my personal ears preference

this is absolutely apropos, though when you have the flopping that;s been going on in here.

by **NealIsGod** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:39 am

Moon Beam wrote:Holy Hell now you guys are highjacking year old threads?

I see the heat has gotten to some.

I agree Free I prefer Perry anything to Steve Augeri.
But that's just my personal ears preference

Just thought it was interesting that Free points out that Perry couldn't even handle BG vox on Pack's album, and less than a year later he wants him back in Journey. And don't forget the $3,000 thread.

by **Rockindeano** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:42 am

NIG, you need to stop huddling up with this guy. You two look absolutely ridiculous.

I would do it too, though. Get this place shut down, to protect good ol Mr. Awesome. Good political idea actually.
However, It's safe to say, you two are getting your asses handed to you on this. Keep bringing it up, genius. :roll:

by **Free** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:45 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Moon Beam wrote:Holy Hell now you guys are highjacking year old threads?

I see the heat has gotten to some.

I agree Free I prefer Perry anything to Steve Augeri.
But that's just my personal ears preference

Just thought it was interesting that Free points out that Perry couldn't even handle BG vox on Pack's album, and less than a year later he wants him back in Journey. And don't forget the $3,000 thread.

You prove absolutely nothing. Of course his voice sounded bad here. But it sure as hell can't sound any worse the current day Augeri.

I've always wanted Perry back. Even if he doesn't sound good.

The whole point of that post almost a year ago was this: Some said that Perry sounded good. I didn't think he did. This proves it.

But I've said many times that it was Perry's non-verbal stuff that made him so special in concert. He knows how to emotionally connect to the audience better than any singer I've ever seen.

Why don't you go listen to an Augeri part live- part tape concert?

by **Rockindeano** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:50 am

They're trying to link Perry with this scandal.

There is NOTHING at all between Perry and tapegate.

I cannot say it any clearer.

by **Free** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:51 am

Rockn'deano wrote:They're trying to link Perry with this scandal.

There is NOTHING at all between Perry and tapegate.

I cannot say it any clearer.

Why don't you just spill the beans man? Perry helped you splice the tape.

by **Wildfire** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:52 am

That is almost too funny. He's been out of the band, yes, I know you will tell me he gets money from them today. However, he is not functional in the band as he doesn't make decisions for them today. Perhaps he should. :wink:

Don't get upset, that was a joke.

by **Free** » Wed May 31, 2006 5:54 am

Val wrote:That is almost too funny. He's been out of the band, yes, I know you will tell me he gets money from them today. However, he is not functional in the band as he doesn't make decisions for them today. Perhaps he should. Don't get upset, that was a joke.

No. You don't understand. Perry invented this tape gate thing to make Augeri look bad so Neal would ask him back.

by **NealIsGod** » Wed May 31, 2006 6:06 am

Free wrote:Why don't you go listen to an Augeri part live- part tape concert?

If everyone will donate money, I would like to travel to Steve Augeri myself and ask him about this. $3K should do it. :lol:

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=16152

MR

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