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If you could ask Kevin Chalfant 3 questions, what would they be?


I figured to ask this board since most of you know more about him, thanks in advance

Kevin is one of my favorit singers of all time

1) when is his dvd coming out.
2) will he show up at any of the Journey shows as a special quest
3) His he ever going to come down to Biloxi MS

Thanks Eric

It'd be "KevCat. What's your side of what happened during your aborted stint with JRNY in 95-96?"

I am with Red.
I would want to know what it was like getting together with Journey, writing music, jamming?
How did the return of Perry take place from his vantage point?
And how about another VU cd?

I want to echo what Joe said. Good question.

Oh, and ask for his opinion on "Generations" if u could.
I recall he had some very candid (and none too complimentary) things to say about "Trial By Fire".
Saying (and I'm paraphrasing here) that he had better songs stashed away in his sock drawer.

Which I think is a little too harsh, Trial By Fire may not be all that great, but it's a step up from ROR and the production is tops.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Oh, and ask for his opinion on "Generations" if u could.
I recall he had some very candid (and none too complimentary) things to say about "Trial By Fire".
Saying (and I'm paraphrasing here) that he had better songs stashed away in his sock drawer.

Which I think is a little too harsh, Trial By Fire may not be all that great, but it's a step up from ROR and the production is tops.

Yeah, but you gotta remember that he was writing with the guys...so he knows the direction they were working on until Perry rejoined.

jrnyman28 wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Oh, and ask for his opinion on "Generations" if u could.
I recall he had some very candid (and none too complimentary) things to say about "Trial By Fire".
Saying (and I'm paraphrasing here) that he had better songs stashed away in his sock drawer.

Which I think is a little too harsh, Trial By Fire may not be all that great, but it's a step up from ROR and the production is tops.

Yeah, but you gotta remember that he was writing with the guys...so he knows the direction they were working on until Perry rejoined.

Ooooh, that's an interesting fresh angle on it.
Didn't look at it like that.
Maybe the fruit of his time spent writing with Journey is literally actually kept in his sock drawer

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:If you could ask Kevin Chalfant 3 questions, what would they be?


I figured to ask this board since most of you know more about him, thanks in advance

I would ask him :

When is he going to release a new solo or Two Fires album?

Are the songs that he hid in his underwear drawer ever going to be recorded, by him or anybody else?

Is he still considering releasing CD's by new bands or solo performers on Clique Records?

As a runner up, I would also ask if after an interview he ever thinks, "Oh, no, I should have never said that. Now Monker is going to post it all over the internet...." Just for a laugh.

jrnyman28 wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Oh, and ask for his opinion on "Generations" if u could.
I recall he had some very candid (and none too complimentary) things to say about "Trial By Fire".
Saying (and I'm paraphrasing here) that he had better songs stashed away in his sock drawer.

Which I think is a little too harsh, Trial By Fire may not be all that great, but it's a step up from ROR and the production is tops.

Yeah, but you gotta remember that he was writing with the guys...so he knows the direction they were working on until Perry rejoined.

Err, it's underwear drawer...and they were songs he wrote with Neal and Jonathan....which he said were "classic" and he was saving them....Well, how long is he going to save them?

Also, I think he said his favorite time in Journey was the time before Escape....and that is what I would expect the sound to be like with Gregg in the band. Basicaly, the Storm with Neal and Jonathan's input.

jrnyman28 wrote:And how about another VU cd?

Oh, that's another good question....

Did he work with Ross , or any other members of the VU, in the repackaging and release of the US version of the CD?

Also, how did the VU morph into the Storm...that's an interesting story.

Monker wrote:

jrnyman28 wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Oh, and ask for his opinion on "Generations" if u could.
I recall he had some very candid (and none too complimentary) things to say about "Trial By Fire".
Saying (and I'm paraphrasing here) that he had better songs stashed away in his sock drawer.

Which I think is a little too harsh, Trial By Fire may not be all that great, but it's a step up from ROR and the production is tops.

Also, I think he said his favorite time in Journey was the time before Escape....and that is what I would expect the sound to be like with Gregg in the band. Basicaly, the Storm with Neal and Jonathan's input.

My favorite time of Journey as well.

Yeah, that time before Escape..Departure era..yhey did sound good didn't they? 28 is always saying that was Journey at their best. Maybe so.

Two comments about Greg and Departure era.

1) Greg said on BTM, "here we are, as successful as you can be, and you couldn't pay me to pack another suitcase." That tells me Perry bugged the shit out of him. Why? Well, Greg is STILL touring, and touring the carnival circuit to boot..that isn't exactly "successful." Now Journey is touring, and playing to 10K per night..big difference.

Also, I can't see a GR back in Journey. Wasn't that the rumour? Greg AND Jon? How many key players can you have in a band not named the E Street Band? I think Jon would retire if that were the case. He has family, and hell, he probably makes more money than all of us weekly with his royalties alone!

One last mention. If Greg were back in the band, I feel possibly the music may sound dated, if the Departure structure was used. I like the music very much from DP but, to me, it just is a sound that only works for a certain time period...Wouldn't work now, IMO.

Rock'ndeano wrote:1) Greg said on BTM, "here we are, as successful as you can be, and you couldn't pay me to pack another suitcase." That tells me Perry bugged the shit out of him. Why? Well, Greg is STILL touring, and touring the carnival circuit to boot..that isn't exactly "successful." Now Journey is touring, and playing to 10K per night..big difference.

I agree that it seems odd NOW, but back then it could have been true. He didn't tour for quite some time after that...in fact, I would have to say that Gregg did not tour from 1980-1992 with The Storm. That is a pretty good vacation. I still feel that Perry WAS a major reason though. Everything I have read on the subject leads to me to that. But I give Gregg credit for 'stickin' to his story'.

Rock'ndeano wrote:Also, I can't see a GR back in Journey. Wasn't that the rumour? Greg AND Jon?

Not rumor...fact, Gregg and Jon WERE in Journey together prior to TBF. Jon's songwriting alone gives him a reason to stay. And he plays piano, where Gregg plays the Hammond. Plus, Jon can play rhythm guitar, giving an added depth to the sound of the band.

Rock'ndeano wrote:One last mention. If Greg were back in the band, I feel possibly the music may sound dated, if the Departure structure was used. I like the music very much from DP but, to me, it just is a sound that only works for a certain time period...Wouldn't work now, IMO.

I agree that could be true. But the Storm had Gregg in it, and it sounded good. And "Every Generation" sounds like a throwback to that time...and it sounds good. And the band would have been doing what they love, and touring...just like now. With or without radio success...just like now.

Bringing Gregg back in might have made it easier for the fans to handle. PLUS, I think a lot of the difficulties with moving on came from the fact that Perry DID rejoin and THEN all the crap came down. If Journey had simply rejoined wihtout Perry the fanbase may not have split as bad as it did. There would be no feelings of 'Neal screwed Perry' or 'Perry...that jerk'. It just would have been Journey.

Thanks 28..Somethings you wrote I really wasn't sure of beforehand.

The summation of the story still leads to that one S.O.B.---Perry as the root of all evil...

Rock'ndeano wrote:1) Greg said on BTM, "here we are, as successful as you can be, and you couldn't pay me to pack another suitcase." That tells me Perry bugged the shit out of him. Why? Well, Greg is STILL touring, and touring the carnival circuit to boot..that isn't exactly "successful." Now Journey is touring, and playing to 10K per night..big difference.

I don't know how you make that leap. He quit touring from the time after the Departure tour until, I think, the Storm - ten years later.

He and Perry may not have been the best of friends, probably the exact opposite. But, I do believe a large part of why Gregg left Journey is to get off the road and pay more attention to his family. If Journey had been more of that 'family', as Herbie wanted, maybe he would have stuck around...but that is only conjecture.

Also, I can't see a GR back in Journey. Wasn't that the rumour? Greg AND Jon?

Yes, and then Neal and the band dumped Chalfant for Perry and went with Sony's wishes, AND Neal dumped Abraxas Pool for Journey. IMO, that caused a large rift between Journey and Gregg. I doubt he will ever join Journey in a permanent way again. I would think he would do some guest spots, but I doubt it would go any further then that.

I agree that it seems odd NOW, but back then it could have been true. He didn't tour for quite some time after that...in fact, I would have to say that Gregg did not tour from 1980-1992 with The Storm. That is a pretty good vacation. I still feel that Perry WAS a major reason though. Everything I have read on the subject leads to me to that. But I give Gregg credit for 'stickin' to his story'.

I should read the thread before I post...oh, well.

I agree.

Monker wrote:

I agree that it seems odd NOW, but back then it could have been true. He didn't tour for quite some time after that...in fact, I would have to say that Gregg did not tour from 1980-1992 with The Storm. That is a pretty good vacation. I still feel that Perry WAS a major reason though. Everything I have read on the subject leads to me to that. But I give Gregg credit for 'stickin' to his story'.

I should read the thread before I post...oh, well.

I agree.

Yeah Monker, I was trying to ask a question rather than make a statement..I wasn't sure of what happened to GR.. I thought he despised SP.

Hey Monker, is Two Fires a little Journeyish? Can you elaborate for me? I really have never heard of them before.

TIA

Two Fires was like The Storm, without Gregg. So yeah, it is like Escape Journey. But maybe not as "rock".

jrnyman28 wrote:Two Fires was like The Storm, without Gregg. So yeah, it is like Escape Journey. But maybe not as "rock".

Thanks 28 sir. Ck your PM.. speaking of Escape..

Did you know Adult Contemporary Music started with the song "Who's cryin' Now?"

Monker stated that the circumstances around TBF caused a rift between Gregg and Journey, understandable so. Yet Neal appeared on a song on Gregg's 2001 album, Roots, so at least the two of them evidently stayed on fairly good terms despite this. Curiously, Gregg missed the Hollywood WOF ceremony but had been at the one in SF the year before. Any chance it was actually known that Perry would be there despite what we've heard from many involved? Would Perry's attendance keep Gregg from wanting to come? I wouldn't expect either answer to be yes, based on what we know. Not likely, but has something else happened between Gregg and Journey between the two events? I was really surprised and disappointed Gregg wasn't there, being such an important part of Journey's history. Surely any dates Gregg had could have been scheduled around that date or rescheduled.

Rock'ndeano wrote:Did you know Adult Contemporary Music started with the song "Who's cryin' Now?"

According to who?

NealIsGod wrote:

Rock'ndeano wrote:Did you know Adult Contemporary Music started with the song "Who's cryin' Now?"

According to who?

This CD I found..Cain says, "They tell me A/C was started with this song(WCN) )....It's a decent interview..Burning them today...

Rock'ndeano wrote:Did you know Adult Contemporary Music started with the song "Who's cryin' Now?"

Where did you get THAT from?
Nevermind, I continued reading!

NoMoreTails wrote:Monker stated that the circumstances around TBF caused a rift between Gregg and Journey, understandable so. Yet Neal appeared on a song on Gregg's 2001 album, Roots, so at least the two of them evidently stayed on fairly good terms despite this.

I wonder if the "bad taste" is with "Journey", not specifically with Neal. Or maybe he and Neal had worked on that song when working with Abraxas Pool?

NoMoreTails wrote:Curiously, Gregg missed the Hollywood WOF ceremony but had been at the one in SF the year before. Any chance it was actually known that Perry would be there despite what we've heard from many involved?

I really don't think ANYONE knew Perry would be there. I find it hard to believe that everyone involved would be able to keep to the same story! Perry said he didn't know until that day...

NoMoreTails wrote:Would Perry's attendance keep Gregg from wanting to come? I wouldn't expect either answer to be yes, based on what we know.

I agree that it could have, but don't think it did.

NoMoreTails wrote:Not likely, but has something else happened between Gregg and Journey between the two events? I was really surprised and disappointed Gregg wasn't there, being such an important part of Journey's history. Surely any dates Gregg had could have been scheduled around that date or rescheduled.

I was surprised too, since he DID show up before. But apparantly he was unable due to something important. I wonder if they sent a copy of everything (the proclamation, certificate, etc). I cannot imagine what else might have happened to 'upset' him...I haven't seen ANY reason for Gregg and Journey to be involved with each other between the two events. The only thing I can think of is the Ford Commercial with "Anytime" used. But that may have been before the SFWOF, I am not sure.

jrnyman28 wrote:The only thing I can think of is the Ford Commercial with "Anytime" used.

Wasn't it "Just the Same Way" ?
If I am mistaken, I apologise in advance.

Yeah, maybe it was! I feel like an old fogey at times!!

Rock'ndeano wrote:Hey Monker, is Two Fires a little Journeyish? Can you elaborate for me? I really have never heard of them before.

Two Fires is the Storm without Gregg...So, it's Josh Ramos and Kevin. It's a lot more guitar driven then the Storm was. I've always liked this CD...I think it may even be in the car right now. Kevin REALLY sounds good on it. I don't own the second Two Fires. If Kevin releases another CD, I'll buy the two together...which is what I did with his gospel CD and "Running With the Wind".

Monker wrote:

Rock'ndeano wrote:Hey Monker, is Two Fires a little Journeyish? Can you elaborate for me? I really have never heard of them before.

Two Fires is the Storm without Gregg...So, it's Josh Ramos and Kevin. It's a lot more guitar driven then the Storm was. I've always liked this CD...I think it may even be in the car right now. Kevin REALLY sounds good on it. I don't own the second Two Fires.

If Kevin releases another CD, I'll buy the two together...which is what I did with his gospel CD and "Running With the Wind".

Out of all the releases mentioned, only the first Two Fires is a must have.

jrnyman28 wrote:

NoMoreTails wrote:Monker stated that the circumstances around TBF caused a rift between Gregg and Journey, understandable so. Yet Neal appeared on a song on Gregg's 2001 album, Roots, so at least the two of them evidently stayed on fairly good terms despite this.

I wonder if the "bad taste" is with "Journey", not specifically with Neal. Or maybe he and Neal had worked on that song when working with Abraxas Pool?

Could be, most of the players from Abraxas Pool also appear on Roots.
I would have like to have heard more from AP. Better than Santana IMO.