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Neal's New Perspective on TBF

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:56 am
by jrnyman28
http://www.projo.com/music/content/projo_20050814_journey.3148fb6.html

"When talk of a reunion started in 1996 and Steve Perry contacted Cain to do a new record, Schon wanted no part of it.

"I was done with it," Schon says. " 'Dude, it's way over.' I had moved on. . . .

"I got this call that 'Steve wants to do a record,' and I'm like, 'Why?' "

But once they got together and got to work on what would be 1996's Trial by Fire, "it was such an automatic thing." After an "effortless" recording process, the album came out ("too many ballads, and too long of a record, but I thought it was a good record" says Schon) and garnered a Number One Adult Contemporary single for "When You Love a Woman." (they forgot GRAMMY NOMINATED!)

The next logical step was a tour, but Perry suffered an injury in Hawaii just before it was to begin.

"We waited around for about a year and a half," Schon says, and suddenly Perry not only couldn't tour but didn't want to do any more projects, such as movie-soundtrack songs or another album.

"At that point, I'm frustrated" and regretting his decision to get Journey back together, Schon says. "You've got this great car to drive and you've got no keys."

Re: Neal's New Perspective on TBF

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:04 am
by NoMoreTails
jrnyman28 wrote:http://www.projo.com/music/content/projo_20050814_journey.3148fb6.html

"When talk of a reunion started in 1996 and Steve Perry contacted Cain to do a new record, Schon wanted no part of it.

"I was done with it," Schon says. " 'Dude, it's way over.' I had moved on. . . .


Interesting. Moved on.....with Chalfont, Rolie, and Cain.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:21 am
by ohsherrie
I have a question. If he was through with Journey and ready to "move on" before TBF, why didn't he go back to that plan instead of reforming another band and giving it the Journey name?

Or make that two questions. Why is he making it sound as if Steve instigated the reunion when we know that it was Sony?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:43 am
by jrnyman28
ohsherrie wrote:I have a question. If he was through with Journey and ready to "move on" before TBF, why didn't he go back to that plan instead of reforming another band and giving it the Journey name?


He didn't say he was done with Journey, he said he was through with Perry.

But I liked that he said it was 'effortless'.

ohsherrie wrote:Or make that two questions. Why is he making it sound as if Steve instigated the reunion when we know that it was Sony?


Maybe because Sony went to Perry and Perry came to "them". If Perry had truly not been interested (or coerced by empty promises of pushing another solo single) than he would not have called the guys. So, in a way, Perry did instigate the actual reunion.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:50 am
by NoMoreTails
ohsherrie wrote:I have a question. If he was through with Journey and ready to "move on" before TBF, why didn't he go back to that plan instead of reforming another band and giving it the Journey name?


That plan was Journey, without Perry. Moved on from Perry, not from Journey.
They didn't form another band and call it Journey, they could not have legally done that.
They, Journey, replaced a singer and a drummer. The singer and drummer both agreed to it.



ohsherrie wrote:Or make that two questions. Why is he making it sound as if Steve instigated the reunion when we know that it was Sony?


The "official" word has always been that Perry made the call to Jon. There has been a history of official statements that have not always been the way things really happened.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:09 am
by Rockindeano
Why the Hell should Schon move on and CHANGE the name of the Band? It is HIS band! Not some flaky piss ant singer who can't be trusted..

My God, you people will stop at nothing...until he is dead, and you will probably still fight..

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:06 am
by jrnyman28
I remember how Neal talk about TBF being good music to put his baby to sleep with. Now he says it was a good CD. And I am sure it was a 'great CD' when they first recorded it.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:54 am
by Hippie
Why is he making it sound as if Steve instigated the reunion when we know that it was Sony?


On Behind The Music, both Cain AND Perry stated that it was Perry who initiated the reunion by calling Cain.

You calling Perry a liar? :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 7:53 am
by The_Noble_Cause
Hippie wrote:
Why is he making it sound as if Steve instigated the reunion when we know that it was Sony?


On Behind The Music, both Cain AND Perry stated that it was Perry who initiated the reunion by calling Cain.

You calling Perry a liar? :wink:


Revisionist history (as propagated by both BTM, Perry, and for some odd reason Neal and Jon) have made it seem like Steve woke up one morning to find himself afflicted with some insatiable genuine hunger and passion to be back in the band.
Luckily, Steve's drummer from the FTLOSM band remembers otherwise,

"We could have worked for another 2 years easily, but it wasn't just the Bronchitis thing, once Steve recovered from that from what I know Sony was saying "Look, if you come to the table to talk about doing this Journey Reunion thing (TBF), we will release another single off your solo CD" (FTLOSM). So of course he did that and they released the single yet didn't support it and just let it fall to the side sorta. But that's what got him to go back in to do the Journey Reunion."