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What a great album! When I first heard it, there was a song or two that I wasn't really thrilled with, but the more I listen to the CD (and I just received the European release today), the more I like all the songs.

Great music. Can't wait until the concert at the end of September.

- Fred

Another happy customer! Journey just keeps making them, no matter who it upsets...

I agree with Fred. Funny how some music doesn't hit you the first time around, but grabs you on that second listen.

This CD is a GEM...!!!!!!

To be honest, I used to think "It shouldn't have to grow on me"..Journey's earlier material always hit me right away. But I think I prefer the music that does grow on me. It seems to last longer.

I cant seem to get enough of these tunes...I'm really getting into Believe..sweet sound!

jrnyman28 wrote:To be honest, I used to think "It shouldn't have to grow on me"..Journey's earlier material always hit me right away. But I think I prefer the music that does grow on me. It seems to last longer.

After the first listen to Generations I thought "what the hell did I just hear"...same thing I thought after listening to Frontiers the first time.
Of course I thought the same thing with ROR, but overall it never grew on me quite the same way....

NoMoreTails wrote:

jrnyman28 wrote:To be honest, I used to think "It shouldn't have to grow on me"..Journey's earlier material always hit me right away. But I think I prefer the music that does grow on me. It seems to last longer.

After the first listen to Generations I thought "what the hell did I just hear"...same thing I thought after listening to Frontiers the first time.
Of course I thought the same thing with ROR, but overall it never grew on me quite the same way....

I remember being struck by the dark feel of Frontiers compared to the sunny feeling of ESC4P3. Remarkable how different those albums are, but both are so great.

NoMoreTails wrote:

jrnyman28 wrote:To be honest, I used to think "It shouldn't have to grow on me"..Journey's earlier material always hit me right away. But I think I prefer the music that does grow on me. It seems to last longer.

After the first listen to Generations I thought "what the hell did I just hear"...same thing I thought after listening to Frontiers the first time.
Of course I thought the same thing with ROR, but overall it never grew on me quite the same way....

Arrival four years ago annoyed the daylights out of me....."This is the biggest Steve Perry rip off I've ever heard" and I only listened to it a few times. Then a few months ago I pulled it off the shelf and can't get enough of it now.

John

NealIsGod wrote:I remember being struck by the dark feel of Frontiers compared to the sunny feeling of ESC4P3. Remarkable how different those albums are, but both are so great.

Yes, it was almost a shock hearing it the first time, I grew to like it as well, maybe better than Escape. Of course Escape was very differnt from what came before. That's been an important element to keeping my interest, Journey's sound was always evolving from album to album. I think Perry once made some statement about the band being about change. I'd love to have that quote for the Perryheads now.

NoMoreTails wrote:Yes, it was almost a shock hearing it the first time, I grew to like it as well, maybe better than Escape. Of course Escape was very differnt from what came before. That's been an important element to keeping my interest, Journey's sound was always evolving from album to album.

Absolutely!!

NoMoreTails wrote:I think Perry once made some statement about the band being about change. I'd love to have that quote for the Perryheads now.

You should know that it is only valid if Perry is involved. It is only true as long he is there.

jrnyman28"[quote="NoMoreTails wrote:You should know that it is only valid if Perry is involved. It is only true as long he is there.

True, Perry-only fans would view it that way, so would Perry I guess.
BTW, your reply to Vlade on BT was right on, as always.

Thank you. I respect his opinions as long as he realizes they are just that...opinions.

Well I sure hope Generations is better than the half-assed
Perry-mimicking Arrival. I mean, they can only improve from there.

Soledad? wrote:Well I sure hope Generations is better than the half-assed
Perry-mimicking Arrival.

With the exception of some tepid bubble gum balladry, I fail to see what about "Arrival" is mimicking Perry.
Along with a nice collection of harder Schon/Blades rock collaborations, u had some truly fresh sounding numbers like "We Will Meet Again", "Livin to Do", "Kiss Me Softly"...none of that stuff exudes a sound from Journey's past.

I thankfully dont hear any Perry on Arrival..

I cant see him singing Higher Place or NCC or WGW

C'mon guys, be realistic. While you might not hear "Perry" on Arrival, you DO hear a strong attempt to repeat the Escape/Frontiers era sound of Journey. It was painfully obvious that Sony was picking the songs that most sounded like Perry-days long past. The stand-out tracks ob Arrival were the ones that sounded like a new direction for Journey, instead of re-visiting the past.

jrnyman28 wrote:C'mon guys, be realistic.

Hey dude, why don't YOU be realistic.
What you say here is exactly what I already said verbatim.

jrnyman28 wrote: While you might not hear "Perry" on Arrival, you DO hear a strong attempt to repeat the Escape/Frontiers era sound of Journey.

I already mentioned the ballads, what else are you referring to?
Do you truly think Steve Perry would have ever sung something like World Gone Wild?
Think again.

jrnyman28 wrote:The stand-out tracks on Arrival were the ones that sounded like a new direction for Journey, instead of re-visiting the past.

I said this already word for word.
Dave, don't correct me and then go on to parrot exactly what I already wrote.

Chaney and The Cause make HUGE points.
With Perry there is no way we'da had Higher Place, World Gone Wild, The Place In Your Heart, The Time stuff like that.
#1 is the obvious, he just would not rock out like that and #2 I don't think he'd cooperate with Blades collabarations as the first 3 are. I think he'd kick and scream about an outside writer.

TNC,
I really only think 3-4 songs on Arrival showed a 'new direction' for Journey. That means IMO 10-11 tracks sound like trying to capture a thing of the past, why didn't work. Arrival could have been done by Perry...just not as well. (Of course Perry would have done well, but the CD would have lost something else. If Perry had sung Arrival it would have been TBF 2.)

My only point was that you can understand where soledad is coming from even if he was wrong. It may not sound like Perry on Arrival, but it does sound like Sony wanted it to sound as much like perry as possible.

I think Higher Place is the best song on either album...but then the next three come from Generation....Faith In Heartland, Place in Your Heart and Out of Harms Way.

My To 10l Augeri-era songs so far:
1) Higher Place
2) Faith in the Heartland
3) Place in your Heart
4) Remember Me
5) Out of Harms Way
6) I Got a Reason
7) Livin to Do
Nothing Comes Close
9) I Can Breathe
10) Signs of Life

I think Higher Place is the best song on either album...but then the next three come from Generation....Faith In Heartland, Place in Your Heart and Out of Harms Way.

My To 10l Augeri-era songs so far:
1) Higher Place
2) Faith in the Heartland
3) Place in your Heart
4) Remember Me
5) Out of Harms Way
6) I Got a Reason
7) Livin to Do
Nothing Comes Close
9) I Can Breathe
10) Signs of Life

I think Higher Place is the best song on either album...but then the next three come from Generation....Faith In Heartland, Place in Your Heart and Out of Harms Way.

My To 10l Augeri-era songs so far:
1) Higher Place
2) Faith in the Heartland
3) Place in your Heart
4) Remember Me
5) Out of Harms Way
6) I Got a Reason
7) Livin to Do
Nothing Comes Close
9) I Can Breathe
10) Signs of Life

Eric wrote:I think Higher Place is the best song on either album...but then the next three come from Generation....Faith In Heartland, Place in Your Heart and Out of Harms Way.

My To 10 Augeri-era songs so far:
1) Higher Place
2) Faith in the Heartland
3) Place in your Heart
4) Remember Me
5) Out of Harms Way
6) I Got a Reason
7) Livin to Do
8) Nothing Comes Close
9) I Can Breathe
10) Signs of Life

Good post. Here are mine:

1) Out of Harm's Way
2) The Place in Your Heart
3) Higher Place
4) Faith in the Heartland
5) Loved By You
6) Remember Me
7) World Gone Wild
8) Livin' to Do
9) Beyond the Clouds
10) Knowing that You Love Me

The_Noble_Cause wrote:With the exception of some tepid bubble gum balladry, I fail to see what about "Arrival" is mimicking Perry...

I agree. I absolutely don't see a Perry connection at all with Arrival. In fact, to me, I don't really hear a Journey "sound" like I do with Generations.

- Fred