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Perry sounding almost decent.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:28 am
by The_Noble_Cause
http://perryville.freeservers.com/COTW2 ... annel5.wmv

Here, Perry sounds almost passable.
Note how he steadfastly remains within the limits of his lower range.

Enjoy!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:43 am
by Greg
First time that I had the opportunity to watch that video. He sounded pretty good to me there.

Re: Perry sounding almost decent.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:45 am
by froy
The_Noble_Cause wrote:http://perryville.freeservers.com/COTW22/Stevechannel5.wmv

Here, Perry sounds almost passable.
Note how he steadfastly remains within the limits of his lower range.

Enjoy!


Very nice
Its great to see him just doing anything
Sounded fine there
Its when he yells is the problem

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:47 am
by The_Noble_Cause
Greggie wrote:He sounded pretty good to me there.


As I said, when he sings low, he can preserve some of that formerly youthful sweet quality to his voice.
When he sings loud (as he tried to do with the 1.75 million fans) he loses all semblance to Steve Perry completely.

Re: Perry sounding almost decent.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:48 am
by The_Noble_Cause
froy wrote:Its when he yells is the problem


Yeah, like I said. Low range he can control, high range is shot.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:51 am
by Greg
Maybe that's the biggest reason for the whole TBF thing. More than likely, Perry can still record fine sounding albums, but the live performances are too much for him to handle at this point?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:55 am
by Andrew
Greggie wrote:Maybe that's the biggest reason for the whole TBF thing. More than likely, Perry can still record fine sounding albums, but the live performances are too much for him to handle at this point?


Yes yes and yes.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:00 pm
by Greg
......and the biggest thing for him is owning up to that fact and seeing what he can do, if anything, to correct that problem and move forward. We all know he'll never sound like the Steve Perry of '81, but he doesn't have to.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:29 pm
by ohsherrie
Greggie wrote:......and the biggest thing for him is owning up to that fact and seeing what he can do, if anything, to correct that problem and move forward. We all know he'll never sound like the Steve Perry of '81, but he doesn't have to.



But, it seems that a lot of people still want to focus on those high notes rather than the beautiful sound that can come from a lower register. There is no problem to correct. He isn't touring or recording, therefore, there is no problem. He's just having fun.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:32 pm
by Rockindeano
"Drew, it just ain't the same thing seeing your name without that gay looking dog with the billy club.....

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:35 pm
by ohsherrie
Hi Dean, I agree, I loved the dog and club thing. :D

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:59 pm
by Greg
ohsherrie wrote:
Greggie wrote:......and the biggest thing for him is owning up to that fact and seeing what he can do, if anything, to correct that problem and move forward. We all know he'll never sound like the Steve Perry of '81, but he doesn't have to.



But, it seems that a lot of people still want to focus on those high notes rather than the beautiful sound that can come from a lower register. There is no problem to correct. He isn't touring or recording, therefore, there is no problem. He's just having fun.


I agree. I watched the video to "When You Love A Woman" today and realized how beautiful that song is and how good Perry sounded on that song without having to hit high notes. Maybe that is how some people rate the quality of someone's voice by what high notes they can hit, but there is much more to a voice than high notes.

Someone made a point of how Perry's voice was fried around the time of FTLOSM, yet he hit the highest note I have ever heard him sing on the song "Anyway." In all fairness, Perry really started using more of his lower vocals on Frontiers - which was way back in 1983. Just listen to the difference between After the Fall and Feeling That Way.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:47 am
by heardonthestreet
No way in the world would I want Perry to sound the same as he did years ago. If I want that, I'll play Essentials. It would sound strange coming from a man twice the age now.

Yes! WYLAW!

That's what I expect from Perry now.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:37 am
by NealIsGod
I'm surprised no one is focusing on the message of the interview in the link above. Perry said the Sox have given him a lot of joy and he may start singing again. Well?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:44 am
by thebook
NealIsGod wrote:I'm surprised no one is focusing on the message of the interview in the link above. Perry said the Sox have given him a lot of joy and he may start singing again. Well?

based on previous history with the guy, i'll believe it when i see it...

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:45 am
by The_Noble_Cause
thebook wrote:based on previous history with the guy, i'll believe it when i see it...


EXACTLY

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:08 am
by OpeningAct
thebook wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:I'm surprised no one is focusing on the message of the interview in the link above. Perry said the Sox have given him a lot of joy and he may start singing again. Well?

based on previous history with the guy, i'll believe it when i see it...
As much as I'd LOVE to see it....I have to agree with thebook...

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:45 am
by ohsherrie
That sounded very good for the conditions, and the conditions were quite a bit better than the ones at the rally.

I've never thought Steve sounded his best when he was yelling a song. He sang loudly, with the mike right against his lips and the sound adusted to emphacize the vocals, but he didn't usually yell the way he had to in that rally clip. As a matter of fact I've never liked any screaming vocals by any singer, anymore than I like screaming guitars. They all sound stressed, strained and unmelodic to me.

I'm not going to get my hopes up that this will lead to him recording again, but I'd love it if it did. At least he seems to be coming back out of his shell, I have to see that as a good sign. I think he meant what he said about this giving him an emotional boost. He may be thinking about recording while he's riding the emotional wave, I don't know how long that will last. He didn't make any promises, so to be fair there's no expectation to hold him to.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:59 am
by The_Noble_Cause
ohsherrie wrote:I've never thought Steve sounded his best when he was yelling a song. He sang loudly, with the mike right against his lips and the sound adusted to emphacize the vocals, but he didn't usually yell the way he had to in that rally clip.


ohsherrie wrote:As a matter of fact I've never liked any screaming vocals by any singer, anymore than I like screaming guitars. They all sound stressed, strained and unmelodic to me.


So on Friday Perry randomly decided to go thrash metal on our asses, right?
PLEASE.
That dissonant yelling WAS his attempt at regular singing.
Welcome to the current reality of Perry's voice 2005.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:51 am
by JohnH
I have that on DVD Hard Drive.....The thing is....not only is he singing what appears to be a full octave lower, in the Street Parade clip but also here on this infield clip.....It's possible that he's not even singing the song in the original key.....I'll go grab my guitar later , tomorrow (It's sunday and I play gigs four days a week so not today) and check. Another thing.....have you guys noticed that when he talks....his voice is very raspy. That's an indication of a damaged voice....How the hell would he be able to hit any high notes if he talks like he's just been singing on tour for two months?

John

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:09 pm
by Greg
Then again, listen to how Mariah Carey sounds when she talks. The same "raspy" type of voice, yet she sounds very good when she sings.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:10 pm
by The_Noble_Cause
Journey's current drumer, Deen, is very raspy when he talks, but yet has the voice of an early Steve Perry.

Nonetheless, very informative post John H.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:05 pm
by OpeningAct
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Journey's current drumer, Deen, is very raspy when he talks, but yet has the voice of an early Steve Perry.

Nonetheless, very informative post John H.
The voice of "an early Steve Perry?????"
Not even CLOSE....

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:41 pm
by yogi
What a GREAT clip!!! I REALLY like the current rendition of Journey. But Steve Perry will ALWAYS be the MAIN MAN!!! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:07 am
by NealIsGod
JohnH wrote:I have that on DVD Hard Drive.....The thing is....not only is he singing what appears to be a full octave lower, in the Street Parade clip but also here on this infield clip.....It's possible that he's not even singing the song in the original key.....I'll go grab my guitar later , tomorrow (It's sunday and I play gigs four days a week so not today) and check. Another thing.....have you guys noticed that when he talks....his voice is very raspy. That's an indication of a damaged voice....How the hell would he be able to hit any high notes if he talks like he's just been singing on tour for two months?

John


Would you have an alterego named classicrockldy? You are both in love with periods.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:28 am
by Greg
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Journey's current drumer, Deen, is very raspy when he talks, but yet has the voice of an early Steve Perry.

Nonetheless, very informative post John H.


How early? I'd give him back to Frontiers, just judging from Generations, but not sure about anything earlier than that. Of course, it might be a different story live in concert..which I didn't have the pleasure of seeing this year.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:44 am
by The_Noble_Cause
Greggie wrote:How early? I'd give him back to Frontiers, just judging from Generations, but not sure about anything earlier than that. Of course, it might be a different story live in concert..which I didn't have the pleasure of seeing this year.


Deen didn't really "bring it" for the Generations album. For some odd reason he approached his songs (especially 'A Better Life') going for a throaty FTLOSM-type sound. I have bootlegs from the Detour tour where he sings Happy to Give, Keep on Runnin, Suzanne, Party's Over, Edge of the Blade - the guy is amazing and sounds like an Escape-era Perry (perhaps even earlier). He sounded just as amazing in-concert when I saw him that year. People around me heard Dean, pointed towards Augeri and turned and said to me "that guy's days are numbered."
This year, however, Deen was ducking some highs. Still good, but nowhere near as impressive as '04.