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HL "Dead or Alive"...

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:52 am
by TRAGChick
Is Steve speaking English?
Did he forget the words?
Is he just amped on adrenaline?
Did anyone else notice this?
PS ~ What did he mean about "8 months ago" being asked to compose "Open Arms" for a movie....my memory is failing me

....what movie was it?
Re: HL "Dead or Alive"...

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:54 am
by NoMoreTails
tragchk wrote:Is Steve speaking English?
Did he forget the words?
Is he just amped on adrenaline?
Did anyone else notice this?
PS ~ What did he mean about "8 months ago" being asked to compose "Open Arms" for a movie....my memory is failing me

....what movie was it?
The movie was Heavy Metal, he's probably stretching the truth here as Jonathan had written most of Open Arms was before that. Sony probably pushed to get the song in the movie rather than the producers asking Journey to write one for it.
Re: HL "Dead or Alive"...

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:57 am
by NoMoreTails
tragchk wrote:Is Steve speaking English?
Did he forget the words?
Is he just amped on adrenaline?
Did anyone else notice this?
How outraged would people be if Augeri mumbled like this or rushed his way through songs like Perry did at times?
Re: HL "Dead or Alive"...

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:15 am
by Rockindeano
No More Tails said:
How outraged would people be if Augeri mumbled like this or rushed his way through songs like Perry did at times?
Trust me, Augeri has messed up before...A bunch of times, but the Heads would never know that, because they wouldn't be caught dead at a Journey concert..it's like kryptonite to them....
Re: HL "Dead or Alive"...

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:25 am
by NoMoreTails
Rock'ndeano wrote:No More Tails said:
How outraged would people be if Augeri mumbled like this or rushed his way through songs like Perry did at times?
Trust me, Augeri has messed up before...A bunch of times, but the Heads would never know that, because they wouldn't be caught dead at a Journey concert..it's like kryptonite to them....
I have seen complaints about and witnessed some forgotten lyrics, particularly the first couple tours. But I'm talking specifically about Perry's intentionl ad-libbed jibberish and double time singing. It would be blasphemy if Augeri had done this. Admittedly, I don't know which was the case with what Perry was doing in this instance on the Houston DVD.

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:39 am
by Rockindeano
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Two things..
1) I have seen Perry mess up words on more than one occasion...no biggie. he once messes up Ask the Lonely, by singing the second verse first, and I caught it, but he was good at pretending it never happened.
2) You know Espee...He didn't like performing in front of the cameras....He must have gotten nervous.
Re: HL "Dead or Alive"...

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:03 pm
by perryfaithful
Rock'ndeano wrote:No More Tails said:
, but the Heads would never know that, because they wouldn't be caught dead at a Journey concert..it's like kryptonite to them....
Been to several since Augeri joined up Deano. So now what?
Re: HL "Dead or Alive"...

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:05 pm
by perryfaithful
tragchk wrote:Is Steve speaking English?
Did he forget the words?
Is he just amped on adrenaline?
Did anyone else notice this?
PS ~ What did he mean about "8 months ago" being asked to compose "Open Arms" for a movie....my memory is failing me

....what movie was it?
Your point??

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:28 pm
by Rockindeano
I listened to the song today, due to this question. I think I know what Nora is saying.
In the middle of the song, Perry IMO, improvises the words..
He does sing, "He drove a Mazarati, lived up in the hills-ay..on and on.
I must say I dig the shit out of it.. I absolutely love the Perry goes rapid fire and ends up with 38,38,38,38...
Just awesome.
This is one of the those times, where Perry sounded so goddamned good, he could just hum his own words to the usic pitch and it would sound good.
This is a perfect example of why StevePerry, at the time was untouchable. This is exactly why the Dennis DeYoungs and Kevin Cronins, the Bono's, and the David Lee Roths were not half as good as Espee in the 80's....
Hell, those guys areall good, but they weren't in the same league as Perry....Not even close. DeYoung couldn't on his best day, sing the Journey catalogue, like this live CD....
A good point, Nora.
As for you PF, I don't believe you ever saw Augeri. And if you did, why don't you like him..He is great live. I know I know, he sucks, right?

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:45 pm
by fred_journeyman
Don't you think that Perry (along with other singers) did that kind of thing to stave off boredom at times, or just to kick it up a notch?
I'm sorry, but I cannot imagine playing/singing the same songs night after night after night after night and doing them the same way each night, with the same level of intensity and interest. I've done community theater and even when a show runs three to five weeks, you do something different in your performance from one night to the next. It helps to keep it alive and sparked for you, as opposed to simply "going through the motions."
- Fred

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:28 pm
by Vladan
fred_journeyman wrote:Don't you think that Perry (along with other singers) did that kind of thing to stave off boredom at times, or just to kick it up a notch?
I'm sorry, but I cannot imagine playing/singing the same songs night after night after night after night and doing them the same way each night, with the same level of intensity and interest. I've done community theater and even when a show runs three to five weeks, you do something different in your performance from one night to the next. It helps to keep it alive and sparked for you, as opposed to simply "going through the motions."
- Fred
EXACTLY! . Also its their song at the end of the day, they can sing it how like! lol


Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:45 pm
by Rockindeano
Vladan wrote:EXACTLY! . Also its their song at the end of the day, they can sing it how like! lol

Yes thay can, and it's cool they change it up.
However, I hate it when Bruce will play Born to Run acoustic, or REO doing Roll with the Changes acoustic as well.
And Perry really didn't change the way it was done..I agree, dude was fired the fuck up...go listen...hurry up, I'll wait...
See, he is really pumped up it sounds like.

Posted:
Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:49 pm
by Vladan
Rock'ndeano wrote:Vladan wrote:EXACTLY! . Also its their song at the end of the day, they can sing it how like! lol

Yes thay can, and it's cool they change it up.
However, I hate it when Bruce will play Born to Run acoustic, or REO doing Roll with the Changes acoustic as well.
And Perry really didn't change the way it was done..I agree, dude was fired the fuck up...go listen...hurry up, I'll wait...
See, he is really pumped up it sounds like.
Well, I didn't enjoy it either when "Queen + Paul Rogers" did Hammer To Fall mostly in acoustic aswell, I thought it was a complete waiste of a great song performed LIVE.
Personally I don't mind alittle change in the lyrics, but sometimes its just too much. When your waiting for Brian May or Neal Schon's famous solo, then they just completely change it up. Changing the famous Guitar solo's during a song, is a let down for me.


Posted:
Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:21 am
by ohsherrie
Rock'ndeano wrote:As for you PF, I don't believe you ever saw Augeri. And if you did, why don't you like him..He is great live. I know I know, he sucks, right?
Well yeah, actually she did, as did a couple other of my friends, and I don't recall any of them telling me they
sucked. If they simply didn't like them as well as with Perry, that's just a matter of preference, not blasphemy.

Posted:
Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:23 am
by Rockindeano
ohsherrie wrote:Rock'ndeano wrote:As for you PF, I don't believe you ever saw Augeri. And if you did, why don't you like him..He is great live. I know I know, he sucks, right?
Well yeah, actually she did, as did a couple other of my friends, and I don't recall any of them telling me they
sucked. If they simply didn't like them as well as with Perry, that's just a matter of preference, not blasphemy.
Why do you need to answer for her? She is a big girl.
Oh I want to desperately say something but I am not allowed to..
Sherrie, you have definitely ...nevermind


Posted:
Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:47 am
by perryfaithful
Rock'ndeano wrote:ohsherrie wrote:Rock'ndeano wrote:As for you PF, I don't believe you ever saw Augeri. And if you did, why don't you like him..He is great live. I know I know, he sucks, right?
Well yeah, actually she did, as did a couple other of my friends, and I don't recall any of them telling me they
sucked. If they simply didn't like them as well as with Perry, that's just a matter of preference, not blasphemy.
Why do you need to answer for her? She is a big girl.
Oh I want to desperately say something but I am not allowed to..
Sherrie, you have definitely ...nevermind

I pm'd you about this Deano and you have ignored me so I guess all your stuff is really for show. Thought you had a little more "stuff" than that.
Thanks for backing me up Ohsherrie!

Posted:
Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:28 am
by ohsherrie
What have I done other than be honest? I've said good things about the band when I mean it, but I won't say what I don't feel or mean, or back away from what I think, just to make pseudo-friends who turn on me the first time I disagree with them. Feel free to pm me and answer. I won't acknowledge any answer on this board because I don't want to be accused of starting a fight(even though I was challenged first).

Posted:
Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:14 pm
by The_Noble_Cause
Rock'ndeano wrote:As for you PF, I don't believe you ever saw Augeri.
I believe she saw him on two occassions, Dean.

Posted:
Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:29 pm
by Rockindeano
Yep, I was wrong. Totally. Perryfaithful saw JOURNEY.
I admit it. I am sorry.
Unlike Lori, or You, PF, I come back in, and publicly admit I was wrong. Iwas wrong. Shall I write sentences for my punishment?

Posted:
Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:19 am
by TRAGChick
fred_journeyman wrote:Don't you think that Perry (along with other singers) did that kind of thing to stave off boredom at times, or just to kick it up a notch?
I'm sorry, but I cannot imagine playing/singing the same songs night after night after night after night and doing them the same way each night, with the same level of intensity and interest.
I've done community theater and even when a show runs three to five weeks, you do something different in your performance from one night to the next. It helps to keep it alive and sparked for you, as opposed to simply "going through the motions."
- Fred
Fred, my man!

You did Theatre, too?? Cool...
Then you know EXACTLY what goes on with going out on stage and performing something to the equivalent of the movie,
"Groundhog Day" night...after night...after night....
I admit I wasn't so brave....did the same perfomance every time...hit the same "marks"; same inflection of dialogue....same solo songs....
...which is why I
ABSOLUTELY LOVE being lead vocalist in a band!!
Change things up; make it interesting....nothing beats it....

Posted:
Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:26 am
by Argus
Vladan wrote:Well, I didn't enjoy it either when "Queen + Paul Rogers" did Hammer To Fall mostly in acoustic aswell, I thought it was a complete waiste of a great song performed LIVE.


HTF acoustic

bah


Posted:
Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:26 pm
by Red13JoePa
Studio, he is rushing through by design.
The Houston '81 he's singing approx 10 X (Exaggeration) faster and ad libbing even more "ay-ies." Not bad, pretty cool actually. Sort of a Perryism as Cain would say.

Posted:
Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:41 am
by PROPERRY
Hey, I don't mind at all the way Perry changed things up, I love the way he "spiced up" that song!!! All I can say is.....OH MY, MY, HE WAS ON FIRE with EVERY song he sang!!!!
Like someone else said here, "This is his song, so he can sing it anyway he wants too".
I absolutely love my Houston DVD/CD!!!! It is fantastic!!!
Lori

Posted:
Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:05 am
by Red13JoePa
Yes, he was on fire and was awesome in the year 1981.
Oh, yea. Happy New year, 2006.