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Best Journey Song that Journey Never Actually Did?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:22 pm
by The_Noble_Cause
In other words, what song to you typifies that Journey sound?
It sounds like Journey, it moves you like Journey, it feels like Journey, yet lo and behold, it was sung and written by somebody else entiriely!

For me, I am gonna have to say "River of Destiny" by Two Fires.
What a melodic magnum opus.
This is every Journey fan's wet dream and then some.

Jon and Neal are probably kicking themselves for not concieving of that one.

Your Turn.
What is the Best Journey Song that Journey Never Actually Did?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:40 pm
by NealIsGod
Good thread, TNC.

As I have said countless times before, the Shy CD, Sunset & Vine, is very reminiscent of ESC4P3 era Journey. There are many songs on there that I think sound like Journey tunes, but if I have to pick one, it would be "First Love", or maybe "Don't Jump the Gun". Listen to samples here:

http://www.nehrecords.com/SHOP/ShySunset.htm

This is one of my all-time favorite CDs. I'd put it up there with any Journey disc.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:43 pm
by The_Noble_Cause
NealIsGod wrote:This is one of my all-time favorite CDs. I'd put it up there with any Journey disc.


Yes, I've noticed you hawking it on this forum previously.
You seem to be a man of largely impeccable tastes (well, with the exception of "Believe") I will def. make a point of checking them out.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:08 am
by chickpea
It doesn't 'move' me like Journey but it has a Journey-like feel to it.

Find Your Way Back - Jefferson Starship

Re: Best Journey Song that Journey Never Actually Did?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:08 am
by TRAGChick
The_Noble_Cause wrote:In other words, what song to you typifies that Journey sound?
It sounds like Journey, it moves you like Journey, it feels like Journey, yet lo and behold, it was sung and written by somebody else entiriely!

Your Turn.
What is the Best Journey Song that Journey Never Actually Did?


"Callin' To Your Heart" by Giuffria.

Ripped a few pages out of the "Journey-Playbook", if you know what I mean... :wink: 8)

Re: Best Journey Song that Journey Never Actually Did?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:14 am
by NealIsGod
tragchk wrote:"Callin' To Your Heart" by Giuffria.

Ripped a few pages out of the "Journey-Playbook", if you know what I mean... :wink: 8)


Yeah, I was SURE that was Journey when it came out!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:16 am
by Red13JoePa
chickpea wrote:It doesn't 'move' me like Journey but it has a Journey-like feel to it.

Find Your Way Back - Jefferson Starship


Awesome tune from a real good band.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:17 am
by NealIsGod
Red13JoePa wrote:
chickpea wrote:It doesn't 'move' me like Journey but it has a Journey-like feel to it.

Find Your Way Back - Jefferson Starship


Awesome tune from a real good band.


Yeah, I love "Stranger", too. I think it's on the same album.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:20 am
by Red13JoePa
When Thomas joined the band is when they got good. Not a huge fan of the incarnations that were anything but Starship. And they are pretty Journeyesque.... Wish that new live record would come out stateside, i knew 'Drew plunked down for the Jap import.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:52 am
by TRAGChick
Oh...and who can forget SURVIVOR.... :roll:

Jimi Jamison....dark feathered hair....same size...."High On You"; "The Search is Over"....

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:58 am
by cubby69
NealIsGod wrote:Good thread, TNC.

As I have said countless times before, the Shy CD, Sunset & Vine, is very reminiscent of ESC4P3 era Journey. There are many songs on there that I think sound like Journey tunes, but if I have to pick one, it would be "First Love", or maybe "Don't Jump the Gun". Listen to samples here:

http://www.nehrecords.com/SHOP/ShySunset.htm

This is one of my all-time favorite CDs. I'd put it up there with any Journey disc.


I fell in love with this cd when I got it, 'First Love' is an incredible song.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:58 am
by Marabelle
I've heard that song. High on You. And, it most definitely sounds like a Journey song. I didn't like it though cause it has too much fluff and tries too hard to be the "middle of the road" crowd pleaser song.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:40 am
by jrnyman28
Red13JoePa wrote:When Thomas joined the band is when they got good. Not a huge fan of the incarnations that were anything but Starship. And they are pretty Journeyesque.... Wish that new live record would come out stateside, i knew 'Drew plunked down for the Jap import.


Well, I would say that when he first joined was when they were good. I would actually say that Jefferson Starship was the best. Once they became just Starship, while still enjoyable, they seemed to get too "pop" and fluffy.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:42 am
by jrnyman28
I am gonna cheat and say the first Storm CD! With 3/5 of Journey playing, a simmilar sounding vocalist and guitarist, duets with Gregg, how could it NOT!?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:07 am
by NealIsGod
jrnyman28 wrote:I am gonna cheat and say the first Storm CD! With 3/5 of Journey playing, a simmilar sounding vocalist and guitarist, duets with Gregg, how could it NOT!?


Too obvious, Dave. Go out on a limb, for cryin' out loud! :P

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:14 am
by jrnyman28
NealIsGod wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:I am gonna cheat and say the first Storm CD! With 3/5 of Journey playing, a simmilar sounding vocalist and guitarist, duets with Gregg, how could it NOT!?


Too obvious, Dave. Go out on a limb, for cryin' out loud! :P


Yeah, I know! I am trying to think of something a little out of the mainstream. Jim Jidhed (Alien) certainly has a similar vocal style but I am not really familiar with his CD. A lot of people mention Giuffira but it never worked for me. A lot of people mention Benny Mardones' "Into The Night" but again....doesn't do it for me. In a way I think Two Fires is almost as big a 'cop out' because of their relationship to Journey. So I am still thinking...... :D

Ow, I think I hurt myself! :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:48 am
by TRAGChick
Couldn't remember this guy's name to save my life...and just now, BAM! 8)

Grayson Hugh: "Bring It All Back"

Came out in '90 or '91....very bluesy, with "Escape-era" vocals.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:31 am
by jrnyman28
tragchk wrote:Couldn't remember this guy's name to save my life...and just now, BAM! 8)

Grayson Hughes: "(Baby) Bring It On Back"

Came out in '90 or '91....very bluesy, with "Escape-era" vocals.


I have that tape and LOVED it!!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:35 am
by Big J
tragchk wrote:Oh...and who can forget SURVIVOR.... :roll:

Jimi Jamison....dark feathered hair....same size...."High On You"; "The Search is Over"....


Yeah, I thought about Search is Over...that's my answer for now. It's way light and fluffy pancakes though even for Journey. But think how much better the song would be with Perry singing it.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:38 am
by Red13JoePa
See, this is weird. A lot of people accuse Jimi Jamison of sounding like Perry, and I don't hear it in the least. I think Bickler in those days was very Perryesque however.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:21 am
by jrnyman28
I remember Survivor being described as "blue collar Journey".

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:43 am
by SF-Dano
Music wise I always thought that the Santana song "All I Ever Wanted" was their attempt to sound at least musically like Journey's late 70's era rock sound.

Another one that is to easy is "It's Only Make Believe" off of Gregg Rolie's first solo album. Again not so much vocally, but definately musically featuring Neal on guitar. Always thought that would have been a great Journey song.

The one that stands out the most in my opinion as a straigt Journey sound rip off is, as mentioned before, Giuffria's "Callin' to you heart"

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:45 am
by Red13JoePa
jrnyman28 wrote:I remember Survivor being described as "blue collar Journey".


Kinda agree. And certainly not that that's a bad thing.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:58 am
by Abitaman
Price of Love or When I See you Smile (i know it's easy ), but imagine Perry or Augeri on vocals.............-ERIC

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:32 am
by TRAGChick
"Fight Fire With Fire" by Kansas...

...when they...um....WEREN'T Kansas....

This is from the "Dust In The Wind" guys?? :shock:

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:37 am
by anonymousse
It's a corny love song, but i like it...Count on Me by Jefferson Airplane has some parts where the singer reminds me of Steve Perry and the sound is laid back like some of their music.

Re: Best Journey Song that Journey Never Actually Did?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:46 am
by anonymousse
[quote="NealIsGod"][quote="tragchk"][b]"Callin' To Your Heart"[/b] by Giuffria.

Ripped a few pages out of the "Journey-Playbook", if you know what I mean... :wink: 8)[/quote]

Yeah, I was SURE that was Journey when it came out![/quote]

Same here. I wonder what happened to them?

Re: Best Journey Song that Journey Never Actually Did?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:03 am
by jrnyman28
anonymousse wrote:Same here. I wonder what happened to them?


Giuffria morphed into House Of Lords. New singer James Christian, but really it sounds very much the same. Greg Giuffria and James reunited for a new House Of Lords CD to be released soon. But it is unclear whether Greg will tour with the band. House Of Lords has many CDs to check out.

Greg Giuffria has had some bad luck in the past two years. His home studio was destroyed by fire just as he was to finish up a solo record. And then the Hard Rock Cafe in New Orleans was destroyed by Katrina. Apparantly he was a big investor in that.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:45 pm
by anonymousse
Thanks for the info. ;)

PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:30 pm
by Rockindeano
I can't believe no one said, "Workin' Class Man" by Australian, Jimmy Barnes. Yes, Frigga wrote it, but it has Journey all over it.

That would have been a sure fire Journey top ten hit no doubt. In fact I think it was for Jimmy.

Andrew, you like Barnes right? Know him, personally?