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I have been thinking all night.. And if you disagree with me, you are wrong..

As much as I love Neal Schon, I believe wholeheartedly, Neal NEEDS that strong singer to lead him..I am not saying Neal is a pussy...I am saying Neal just needs to play. Play play play.

Perry gave him the the leaderhip the band needed.....Perry led the band..Neal can't lead..neal sure can play, but can't(IMO), lead.


Please ask Perry back. I am begging you.

Rockn'deano wrote:
Perry gave him the the leaderhip the band needed.....Perry led the band..Neal can't lead..neal sure can play, but can't(IMO), lead.

Right on! Even HH said that about Neal,and that old fart knows him better than anyone.

Please ask Perry back. I am begging you.

Where do I sign?

Rockn'deano wrote:I have been thinking all night.. And if you disagree with me, you are wrong..

As much as I love Neal Schon, I believe wholeheartedly, Neal NEEDS that strong singer to lead him..I am not saying Neal is a pussy...I am saying Neal just needs to play. Play play play.

Perry gave him the the leaderhip the band needed.....Perry led the band..Neal can't lead..neal sure can play, but can't(IMO), lead.


Please ask Perry back. I am begging you.

Can't say I disagree with you on the first part. Neal is not a leader. Perry gave direction, or helped steer. ROR and TBF were in the wrong direction though.
Augeri has not steered. He did them going to record last cd, but he hasn't been strong it that. Don't know if he can't lead, afraid too, or thinks this is Neal's band, or I'm too much in the shadow of greatness.

Other than that, I DO NOT have a problem with Augeri. I know the two of you do. I think Perry was the best singer ever in Rock. Augeri is good, but that good. I like to listen to Augeri sing. Would have loved to seen him last year in Biloxi, but hopefully this year in Nashville. I enjoy Journey more now, than with Perry.
I would be upset I Perry came back. If he did let it be a one shot tour, where Perry retire, but not Journey. Come back and Augeri take back over. It is bad no one got to see Perry for a last time. But then move on. Last 3 cd with Augeri have been better than the TBF and ROR ones with Perry.
RD you know I'm a Perry fan, and you know I love the new line up, I don't think Perry could handle Journey music anymore, he needs something slower, and not has high. Journey music killed his voice, and it doing the some to Augeri. Journey does need a year off the road. Record some new music (with Augeri) then get back out.
But we need to quit living in the past, as good as it was (it was good!), we need to move on. Remember it for what it was, but it gone. No amount of bashing, complaining is going to change that.-ERIC

I would go for perry back to. The energy and the show perry did in Journey was amazing. I don't know about his voice today but he had one of the best voices ever.

A reunion with perry would bring back journey again, Now they seem to be struggle in the greatest hits kind of thing touring all the time.

Rockn'deano wrote:

Please ask Perry back

I'm in

Deano, why are you "begging Neal" out of one side of your keyboard and out of the other side prosthelizing that it's a guaranteed done deal?

It's 2006. Perry ain't coming back. Steve Augeri will be singing with them this summer.

New topic please.

NealIsGod wrote:It's 2006. Perry ain't coming back. Steve Augeri will be singing with them this summer.

New topic please.

Can't argue with that.

Then don't read it if it bothers you.

Talking about another greatest hits tour, while opening no less, with a singer who can't sing just really turns me on

Rockn'deano wrote:Then don't read it if it bothers you.

Talking about another greatest hits tour, while opening no less, with a singer who can't sing just really turns me on

Anyone know for sure how many songs off of Gens the band will play? DL is reportedly playing 4 or 5 new ones off their covers CD.

Rockn'deano wrote:As much as I love Neal Schon, I believe wholeheartedly, Neal NEEDS that strong singer to lead him..

Perry gave him the the leaderhip the band needed.....Perry led the band..Neal can't lead..neal sure can play, but can't(IMO), lead.


Please ask Perry back. I am begging you.

Neal cannot lead...so true. But is he willing to allow anyone else to lead? I don't think so. I think he is just fine with the way Journey is going and I think he is quite happy having the control. Sadly he is doing little good with it. Journey definately needs leadership. But it does not need to be Perry and I don't think Neal would ever allow Perry to have that kind of control again. This is a reaction to years of being under Perry's thumb. Neal never had a problem with HH's leadership but he did with Perry. Journey needs a manger who pushes them. Journey needs someone who won't take Neal's shit. Journey does not need Perry. They certainly could benefit from Perry buit they do not need Perry. They just need someone who will direct them.

jrnyman28 wrote:
Journey definately needs leadership. But it does not need to be Perry and I don't think Neal would ever allow Perry to have that kind of control again.

I'm not so sure. Neal is addicted to Benjamins. Perry's return would give him more benjamins than he could ever count in the remainder of his life. Neal just might reconsider Perry back into the fold...after all, Perry has an open invite does he not?

This is a reaction to years of being under Perry's thumb. Neal never had a problem with HH's leadership but he did with Perry.

Hey, I know what a dildo Perry can be and is, but I can forgive his dildo-ness for success. Don't think Schon can't either.

Journey needs a manger who pushes them.

I haven't said this about 4 million times. Journey management? There's an oxymoron if I ever heard of it.

Journey needs someone who won't take Neal's shit. Journey does not need Perry. They certainly could benefit from Perry buit they do not need Perry. They just need someone who will direct them.

I disagree 28. If not Perry, then who? Irving? Consolo? Augeri? Please. Perry needs to return, plain and simple. They do need him because most fans identify Journey with Perry.

Oh they need Perry badly. But they aren't going to get him. I cannot believe you would ask that question. You know better than that. Espee would not want them to make any more money off of his voice.

Rockn'deano wrote: ...greatest hits tour... with a singer who can't sing

...exactly what you'd have if Perry returned.

Marabelle wrote:Oh they need Perry badly. But they aren't going to get him. I cannot believe you would ask that question. You know better than that. Espee would not want them to make any more money off of his voice.

Shut it. You are so fucking clueless. I asked the question because I really do think it will happen. I am not some disillusioned Loon.

Espee makes tons of bank as it is, and his bank would be exponentially increased ten fold, if not more.

NoMoreTails wrote:

Rockn'deano wrote: ...greatest hits tour... with a singer who can't sing

...exactly what you'd have if Perry returned.

Oh, no, NMT. If Perry comes back, he will sound GREAT and they will release a new album which will spawn 5 or 6 hits! It will be 1982 again!

NoMoreTails wrote:

Rockn'deano wrote: ...greatest hits tour... with a singer who can't sing

...exactly what you'd have if Perry returned.

Dude, I know you think Perry is a gorilla's ass, but come on...dude can bring it.

If he returned, they would absolutely have a hit on the radio, and the question would be, not how many tickets are left at the Greek Theatre, but how many nights are Journey playing at Staples Center?

Lest you think Augeri can sing at all now, you are clueless. He couldn't get by round 2 on American Idol. Sad, but true. If anyone wants to dispute this, you are more than welcome to challenge me on this via PM.

NealIsGod wrote:

NoMoreTails wrote:

Rockn'deano wrote: ...greatest hits tour... with a singer who can't sing

...exactly what you'd have if Perry returned.

Oh, no, NMT. If Perry comes back, he will sound GREAT and they will release a new album which will spawn 5 or 6 hits! It will be 1982 again!

Thanks for wakeing me up NIG, I must have been living in the present...

NoMoreTails wrote:

Rockn'deano wrote: ...greatest hits tour... with a singer who can't sing

...exactly what you'd have if Perry returned.

Ha!Wanna bet people will race like crazy to the stadiums to see that?

Infinity wrote:

NoMoreTails wrote:

Rockn'deano wrote: ...greatest hits tour... with a singer who can't sing

...exactly what you'd have if Perry returned.

Ha!Wanna bet people will race like crazy to the stadiums to see that?

Fuck yes they would, and you know it.

Rockn'deano wrote:Dude, I know you think Perry is a gorilla's ass, but come on...dude can bring it.

Perry hasn't brought it in 20 years.

NoMoreTails wrote:

Rockn'deano wrote:Dude, I know you think Perry is a gorilla's ass, but come on...dude can bring it.

Perry hasn't brought it in 20 years.

Shhhh... Flip-flop might hear you.

NoMoreTails wrote:Perry hasn't brought it in 20 years.

2006 – 1994(last time he toured) = 20?? Wow.
2006 – 1996(last time he recorded) = 20?? Double wow.

Infinity wrote:

NoMoreTails wrote:Perry hasn't brought it in 20 years.

2006 – 1994(last time he toured) = 20?? Wow.
2006 – 1996(last time he recorded) = 20?? Double wow.

I'm sure he meant live with Journey which is what the subject is.

2006 - 1986 = 20.

So the guy hasn't sang in 10 years? Big deal. At least when he sang, he didn't crack more than Rice Krispies in cold milk.

Fuck you Amaron, you are a piece of shit. You are clueless. Until you know anything, shut the fuck up. You think I "flip flopped" for no reason? You are retarded if you think that. Trust me, I have a reason.

Infinity wrote:

NoMoreTails wrote:Perry hasn't brought it in 20 years.

2006 – 1994(last time he toured) = 20?? Wow.
2006 – 1996(last time he recorded) = 20?? Double wow.

We were talking bringing it in a live situation ("greatest hits tour"...), I don't think he brought it on the FTLOSM tour, definitely not consistently.

Rockn'deano wrote:So the guy hasn't sang in 10 years? Big deal. At least when he sang, he didn't crack more than Rice Krispies in cold milk.

Fuck you Amaron, you are a piece of shit. You are clueless. Until you know anything, shut the fuck up. You think I "flip flopped" for no reason? You are retarded if you think that. Trust me, I have a reason.

*yawn* Deano, on the warpath again. What's next, something about my mother?

Post the golden boot then. Show everyone why you think SA can't sing or why he lip-synchs.

You're nothing but hot air.

amaron wrote:

Infinity wrote:

NoMoreTails wrote:Perry hasn't brought it in 20 years.

2006 – 1994(last time he toured) = 20?? Wow.
2006 – 1996(last time he recorded) = 20?? Double wow.

I'm sure he meant live with Journey which is what the subject is.

2006 - 1986 = 20.

Nope.It think it was about the number of years since Perry was on a stage.With or without Journey,who cares?He sang live in 1994.

NoMoreTails wrote:
We were talking bringing it in a live situation ("greatest hits tour"...), I don't think he brought it on the FTLOSM tour, definitely not consistently.

So was I. Perry was classy enough to know, he wasn't bringing it every night, so he called it off early in '94.

Augeri didn't have ONE good night last year, not one. Yet you all glorify this guy because "he carries on the name." Fuck me, dude is embarrassing and quite frankly, he has to look himself in the mirror and ask himself the tough question. Why are you doing this when you can't?

Perry is just about the best that has ever been.

Even without Steve, Journey is a good, solid, perfossional, entertaining band.

To me the leadership that is needed has to come from two sources. A better management team. And a lable with some major stroke that will back the band and do everything in their power to get them back to the top.

Back in 1997-1998 with the song 'Remember Me', Journey had the chance to become the next Aerosmith. Their management, and Sony dropped the ball BIG TIME on that one.

They had a GREAT song on a platinum selling CD. It was a classic Infinity/Escape type of Journey song that would of held up and excelled on any Journey album. Millions had this song on a CD and didnt even know it.

They blew it with Remember Me, and then they blew it again with how Arrival was released and marketed. I believe it has NOTHING to do with the players. They all can play. The leadership has to come from management & their record lable.