Comments, Beliefs, Agony and Apology

[Rockindeano]

Well, what a week, eh?

"It takes a leap of faith to get things going, it takes a leap of faith, you got show some guts."-Bruce Springsteen, 1992

Look, I owe everyone here, and everyone who visited this site a sane, mature, well read example, not some heated, verbally insultive diatribe, of what and why I decided to do what I did.

First off, I want to say, I am a HUGE Journey fan, both past and present, and I mean that. I brought out this accusation because it bothered me. It saddened me. I love Neal Schon, and I love Jon Cain, BUT.............

Everyone that has been here for a year or more knows I have always respected Steve Perry. the finest male voice in music history, and no, that isn't debatable, and I also have liked Steve Augeri very much. In fact, if one is new here, and is watching this play out, they might want to read with caution, as I was hard, real hard on Perry in the last year. However, I was hard on his character, not his contribution to Journey, perhaps because at 40, I have had the privelidge to have seen him live....wow...

I have had Steve Augers' back ever since 1998, up until 2005. Last year, because I follow Journey closer than any other fan, and am not afraid to speak my mind, I noticed, as everyone else did, Steve Augeri having serios vocal issues. I went to Irvine, CA, opening night. He was awful. I did post a review on Backtalks' review page, saying he was great. He really was that bad though. Not only did i realize this, but Neal did too.....he is the one who said a doctor would be flying in to help out.

O boy, the hard part. I tried, really tried to bury this, but couldn't. After the first 5 or 7 shows, it's clear they had no other choice but to go to tape.....a choice I am sure they didn't want to do....Steve, I am not blaming you personally, well, I am, but read on.
Look, the Journey catalogue is NOT like singing Bryan Adams, Rush, U2 or Springsteen..it is much more difficult to sing, and I respect that. However, could they have been any more stupid? I figured it out in about 2 weeks! Kevin Elson, who is great at what he does, took it too lightly. He should of mixed up the tracks.......Oh no, we are getting into that ugly train ride again, aren't we?

I believe in what I wrote so much, I stand by it, in a legal sense. I would go to court with this info. Again though, I am a HUGE JOURNEY fan as well as a STEVE PERRY fan...there is NO correlation between the two!

To all of you I issue this statement: "I am sorry. Sorry how I conducted this whole thing. I am sorry for insulting, calling names, and chasing others off. I only wanted to give people a choice." I never thought it would end up like this. I never thought people would have the reaction they did. I should have heeded my own advice.

Andrew McNeice. What a super son-of-a-bitch he is. He allowed it, and for that I am grateful. No, this is not another post on the subject. This is me saying to all of you whom I offended, "I am sorry," and also a very "sorry to someone special" you know who you are.

Backtalkers, I understand your anger. I want to say, I LOVE Journey, I really do. I just don't want "my band" ending up like the Monkees or Kiss" or some other has been. THIS is Journey! Act like it. Journey is better than Styx, REO, Boston, Van Halen, right?

Okay, here is the deal; I promised my girl that come Sunday, I would quit this (even though I don't want to), but she is the most important thing in my life, and I respect her more than God knows. My relationship has slipped since i began this crusade, and Journey isn't half to me what she is.

So, in closing, I ask this much. Folks, having worked in the White House, and it doesn't mean anything, I should have done it better, but I apologize on how I went about it. There was a better way.

This doesn't mean I didn't mean 100% of what I charged. I do, still. I just want to say this..............

Andrew Mcneice is the best goddamned guy in the world. He allowed this to happen. I think that speaks volumes about what a great guy Andrew is. And 13, NIG, Liz, ace, NMT, Abitaman, and others...you weren't wrong...I just disagreed with you all, no biggie.

To the people I agreed with, I thank you. I did do my homework, and I stand by what I said. It wasn't like i just threw this out there. I spent hours upon hours!

To the Backtalkers who came over.....I still say you are all blinded by whatever, and no, I do not apologize to any of you. You can all eat my ass. I will NEVER forgive you, any of you.

Pitman, you threatened me and my daughter and accused my Girl of doing things not proper. You sir, will get yours, I PROMISE you.

Any other BT'ers, seriously, I mean this..Fuck off. You can't handle the truth.
To every othe rmR poster, please accept my sincerest apolgy. I promised my Girl Sunday night would be my last on this.

Sincerely, Dean

PS..I am proud of myself for showing some balls, some guts..it hurt me greatly....I just couldn't handle that feeling I felt in my gut, anylonger.

[heardonthestreet]

Everyone will be on the alert, Dean. Perhaps that will be the most that you can achieve with this. The situation will be noted shortly and it will be either denied, accepted, amended, or non-existent. What more can you ask for your efforts?

[Moon Beam]

Dean'o said:
Okay, here is the deal; I promised my
girl that come Sunday, I would quit this
(even though I don't want to), but she is
the most important thing in my life, and I respect
her more than God knows.
My relationship has slipped since i began this crusade, and
Journey isn't half to me what she is.


I Reply:
It takes big Kahunas to say some things you have
in the past week Dean'o.
It takes super size ones to back off, walk away and
let fate take coarse.
Listen to her Dean'o she's a smart lady.

No I don't have the Quote tab licked yet.
"What the problem is?"

[augeri1]

PS..I am proud of myself for showing some balls

?????? where? I don't see anything .. <------------- oh wait! there they are.

Glad to see you finally realized you have no leg to stand on....yet your pathetic attempt to have folks feel sorry for you is truly a geniune characteristic someone like you would carry. You stirred the shit yet can't handle the stink..I'd say it's time to back away too.

Someone came to the table with more than you can handle..never implied anything yet gutter minds usually take it in that direction. Pit had more balls than you could ever imagine to have and stood up for Stevie and everyone here who you drilled if they even attempted to disagree with you..glad you took my advice to tuck tail and run with what little dignity you don't have left. good boy. Looking forward to Monday.

Penny

[Lula]

Thank you, Dean. I truly appreciate this.
I know you your heart is in the right place and you never meant to hurt anyone. Unfortunately some chose to turn this into a personal attack on me and that is sad. For the record- those that chose to attack my character publicly all have my email address and it would have been a respectful gesture to contact me directly.... friends? I think for myself, always have and always will.

I'm off to see the Gregg Rolie Band with my sister and a real friend. We will be enjoying life, living life, and appreciating what we have. I suggest everyone go outside and enjoy a lovely summer like day.

Regards,
Lula

[acceber]

Andrew Mcneice is the best goddamned guy in the world. He allowed this to happen. I think that speaks volumes about what a great guy Andrew is. And 13, NIG, Liz, ace, NMT, Abitaman, and others...you weren't wrong...I just disagreed with you all, no biggie.

To the people I agreed with, I thank you. I did do my homework, and I stand by what I said. It wasn't like i just threw this out there. I spent hours upon hours!

To the Backtalkers who came over.....I still say you are all blinded by whatever, and no, I do not apologize to any of you. You can all eat my ass. I will NEVER forgive you, any of you.


Any other BT'ers, seriously, I mean this..Fuck off. You can't handle the truth.
To every othe rmR poster, please accept my sincerest apolgy. I promised my Girl Sunday night would be my last on this.

Sincerely, Dean

You know had you just posted the first half of this it would have been great. You couldn't just back away without taking shots at people could you? You have your issues with Craig, whatever. So just the people who don't agree with you from MR are ok. Anyone from BT who disagrees with you "can't handle the truth." What a joke. You will never forgive anyone from BT? Forgive them for what? Not agreeing with you. Im sure none of us will lose sleep over it.

Im glad you are backing away from this. Obviously it's time. So sad that something so unimportant had to take away from a relationship that you say is very important to you.

[MCC620]

Hey Lula...we didn't drag you into this Mr Wonderful did with his postings of how he stole you away from the evils of BT and he spoke for you way too much in all these threads. Again I wish you the best of luck.

[Rockindeano]

Aww, I see the Good ol Quacktalkers can't just leave it alone, can you?

Hey, I am trying to walk away from this, at least on MR, but you freaks just keep the fire burnin'.

Let's get one thing straight right now. I am not looking for sympathy. If you can't figure this out, I will say it slowly. I am 100% correct. I make no bones about it. I apologize to no one who is involved. I do apologize for the delivery. That means IMO, Steve Augeri is still a FRAUD. Classy? Nope. Wrapping yourself in nice, friendly clothing doesn't make the man. I know the truth, and to be fair, Mr. Awshucks-hit-the-tape may not be the sole culprit. Elson, Schon, Cain, and Grandpa...(what a piece of work he is), et al...They are bandits in the truest form.

Rebecca, shut your fat piehole. You have no idea of what you talk of. Rustygreen, you might get this later, when you arrive at the library and use the free computer, but dude, you need to go buy a brain. Dude, saying you're right because, and I quote, "because I said so" literally made me spit my beer out. Go run your gay little Journey radio station.

Pitman is semi-smart. He learned from his asskicking and has stayed away.

MCC, Mrs H, augeri1, and Higherplace2001....you all need to go back to your little romper room site. You are outgunned here. Cheering doesn't get it done at MR.

[Rockindeano]

****************POST REVISAL******************


I am going to divert away from my original post with these changes. MR members, I will contnue to remain calm and respectful to you, however......


Any new freaks, Quacktalkers, bring it. I am loaded for bear all damned day. Bring it on. Please though, bring something factual for fucks' sake. No pom pom's required here. Tell good ol Craig Pitman I am here waiting to kick hiss ass yet another time. Notice after he came in and lied for the second time, and was debunked for the second time, he hasn't returned?

[acceber]

Aww, I see the Good ol Qyacktalkers can't just leave it alone, can you?


Rebecca, shut your hole. You have no idea of what you talk of. Rustygreen, you might get this later, when you arrive at the library and use the free computer, but dude, you need to go buy a brain.

Pitman is semi-smart. He learned from his asskicking and has stayed away.

I want Rich Meyers. Thats who I want. One of you Quackers go tell him it's his turn.

EXCUSE ME? Dean as much as you say you want to drop this you continue to attack people. So no one here can talk shit about Lula but you can run your mouth about anyone you want and that is okay? You have to be fucking kidding me. Grow up. Cute how you wait until Lula isn't around to talk shit about me. As much as I have wanted to, I have never once attacked you. Yet you cannot fight the urge to keep your mouth closed.

The last time I checked, this wasn't your site. I guess you will have to start one of your own to be able to demand that people leave.

[cudaclan]

Someone pass the aspirin, my head hurts.

[Rockindeano]

Rebecca, Lula IS NOT involved. That is my point. I am NOT bringing her into discussion. By the way, she is in Modesto on her way to Sonora to see Rolie.

I don't want anyone to leave the board. I do however want people who disagree with me, to do so with fact, not the same ol "Steve is nice" Steve has class" bullshit.

This will be hard for you, but try to think for yourself. No CJ to help. No rah rah's. THINK FOR YOURSELF.

Now go blow Rusty, he needs it.

[Abitaman]

and Dean as a "friend" I want the same from you, to treat people with respect, even if they think you are totally wrong. Yelling and name calling make people return the same.-ERIC

[Red13JoePa]

Everyone will be on the alert, Dean. Perhaps that will be the most that you can achieve with this. The situation will be noted shortly and it will be either denied, accepted, amended, or non-existent. What more can you ask for your efforts?

(returning for brief cameo)...Bravo. My favorite post of all time out of the likes of you.

[acceber]

Rebecca, Lula IS NOT involved. That is my point. I am NOT bringing her into discussion. By the way, she is in Modesto on her way to Sonora to see Rolie.

I don't want anyone to leave the board. I do however want people who disagree with me, to do so with fact, not the same ol "Steve is nice" Steve has class" bullshit.

This will be hard for you, but try to think for yourself. No CJ to help. No rah rah's. THINK FOR YOURSELF.

Now go blow Rusty, he needs it.

Thank you, I know she isn't there. I think for myself just fine thank you very much. I don't need CJ or anyone else for that matter to stick up for me. I disagree with you based on my own listening to the tracks.

As for you bringing Rusty into this, my relationship with him is not up for your discussion. You don't want to bring Lu in, I suggest you leave Rusty out.

[Pit]

disagree with you based on my own listening to the tracks.

I’ve got much mail in recent days from people thanking me for the stand taken here in these pages on behalf of Journey. To those who understand the fight fire with fire mantra, I thank you, yet obviously with the busy schedules of life, it can’t continue. It was great to hear from all of you. Thanks for the kind words.

“oh that’s just Deano.” The average visitor to these pages does not see or think along lines of boys being boys. They come here to intelligently discuss or read great things about Journey. Instantly they feel unwanted intimidated, scorned, in a lot of cases personally attacked. The bet here is that now he knows how it feels. It’s a shame that DBoy chooses to use PM’s as a weapon of personal destruction, especially against women while using these pages for an attempt at professional destruction, distraction, and jerk ridicule. A website dedicated to the agenda with unlicensed illegal music can’t be enough; It’s got to continue here without jurisdiction. Where’s the music police, RIAA when needed? You might get a firewall DBoy; Did you know you have an open port? Lots of trash on the system. Your IP is in the US, not down under. Andrew can’t protect you. Unlicensed, illegal music is punishable by law. Keep feeding the beast, and the spirit of this website message board will never reach fruition. More ethical hardworking, inquiring minds will shy from the net. Sadly, more too will not learn of the rebirth qualities of the scarab; The rich history of Journey.

The freedoms afforded here are fantastic, and this space could be far and away better than it is yet there’s always one. Then another feels left out, alliances form, and the entire community atmosphere is blown to bits. The best laid plans of mice, men, and morons. Unintelligent minds think alike, while others choose not to intimidate, or seek to conquer; yet give, uplift, & build, not tear down.

There were no tour health issues in 2005 besides a late appendectomy. The occasional common cold and flu makes the rounds every year. Anyone who says they know otherwise just can’t see the forest for the trees. JRNY has worked their ass’ off for 8 years in sweltering heat, high humidity, frigid air conditioning, high pressure, and thin air. They’ve spent long days in airports, and cramped quarters. The difference in ’05 was the routine, and the routine only. The massively serious routine changed from previous tours, and corrected in quick fashion. The band went out there night after night, fought dehydration, fatigue, meet and cheats, yet still being the troopers that they are stepped up to the plate and performed to the highest standards giving 110% to every member of the JRNY family, plus the ticket buying public. Stevie Augeri was a trooper too, and forced to change his routine far and above the norm for the good of the band plus longtime fans such as ourselves. It couldn’t have been easy to get stage ready only to play guitar for an hour. Especially, considering he had no guitar tech. He did it, without complaint, adapted, and moved on. Not only did he adapt, he got stronger and stronger. Every single night the new became more - routine. What do you do when you get up in the morning? Coffee? Newspaper? Email? Lunch for the kids? Do ya feel just a bit off kilter if the routine changes? Have to adapt? What a superb, modern day talent Stevie is. He deserves, and reaps all success without excess.

By the second week of the ‘05 tour there were classic songs that many stated were the best versions of those classics ever performed. Generations numbers were overwhelmingly received. As much as the set list varied from Summer into Fall it’s impossible to pull off such a technically enhanced feat that is alleged here. It’s only alleged, and the theory is weak at its very core with no factual basis or foundation. Nice try on the “ear thingy’s” DBoy. They’re called portable stage monitors. If Kevin had a hand in overlaying anything new into a performance he’d have to wear a set of the “ear thingy’s” too so he could hear the click start back at the soundboard. He doesn’t wear them. Common sense is not to common. It takes no more than a classically trained basket weaver to hear nothing, simply file it in purgatory. Rest easy beams. Your hard earned money is not spent in vain.

Journey embarks on what will arguably be one of the most successful co-headlining rock tours in recent history. Only single tickets remain for many of the shows with sellouts galore a virtual lock. Embrace it, enjoy it remember it. Don’t let the sour bird brained agenda of one ruin it for you, your children, your spouse, mothers, and fathers. There’s never been a better time to be a JRNY fan. Generations is phenomenal, and not since Motown was viable has there been a more soulful collection of vocal masterpiece sprinkled on one record. The Dallas DVD is on the horizon and promises to be the ultimate for any Journey fan, young or old, and everybody sings! “Let them sing.”

Clean this place up, and make it a safe haven for everyone who wants to rejoice in the magic that is Journey. Build a community, not a cult. There’s really no need to address the perv remarks, yet I will. Lu bid and won artwork of mine at a breast cancer fundraiser in Vegas. With a little help the item was signed for her by members of JRNY. Even got something extra signed by the Master for one of her friends whom you may know. My thanks was Lu bailing on another project when I refused to offer JRNY photos as part of any project for profit, and the same friend trashed me on another message board which will go unnamed. I don’t have email for either. Mine is everywhere, and about as easy to remember as they come. No good deed goes unpunished I guess, so trash me all you want. Nothing more. Read it again; Slowly. No character attack at all. Build. Stop tearing down. No one here has a right to trash JRNY, or Steve Augeri. Without him, the last 10 years would have been nothing. Just like DBoy’s nothing illegal recordings. So much for that sincere apology huh DBoy? What a real man you are. Remember; Melted and poured.

Stirred, not shaken.
Safe, successful travels to all.
pit

“You can lose yourself along the way finding something new in yesterday.”
Augeri & DeRossi ‘05

[rustygreen]

Now go blow Rusty, he needs it.

Please please Dean be a real man. Is this the only way you can get your point accross? It's too bad. I feel sorry for you.
But just to show you how much more of a man I am I decided to give your point a shot. I will post it soon. As for now I luv you man. You're so cool. The best friend anyone could ever have.

[Abitaman]

A question for Pitt. you have something to do with Journey? gathered that from your comments from above. Pmed someone, said you did Rock photo work. Where is your work at, web page or anything like that.

BTers, stay awhile will you-ERIC

[rustygreen]

I decided to do it. I took up Dean's request to have a listen to what he was trying so hard to get across to everyone. I honestly went in to this with an open mind.

First of all the quality sucks. I went through the music for 40 minuets to try and hear the difference. I did this with a set of headphones. The first mix that he offers of Separate Ways with one in the left and one on the right is of very poor quality. Vocals on the left are much stronger than on the right and so therefore comparison to the one on the right is not fair.

Other suggestions that Ask The Lonely were tapes of one show and used at another for vocals only didn't make much sence here. All three downloads were of the same show. Clearly you hear this when he mentions Los Vegas. If you have proof that the songs are from each show that you use you have to do much better then this.

All you have offered as proof is this. Selections are from one commercial release (Journey 2001) and the others are from bootlegs. Bootlegs can not be offered as proof because we can not validate the source. With Journey standing in front of thousands upon thousands of fans where in most cases the edge of the stage is up close with the front row and large video screen showing the action up on stage I would like to think that it would have been noticed by now. If you say what you believe to be true is correct how did thousands miss it? I am sorry Dean but poor quality bootlegs offer no proof at all. If this were a court of law the evidence would not have a leg to stand on.

Now please don't say that because of who I am I heard what I wanted to. That would only make you seam like an ass because some people don't agree with you. I spent the time in a quit room with headphones on and played this over and over.

Sorry that I can not stand beside you on this one. As for the comment made by one poster on your blog site they said that they have a trained ear for music and hear what you were talking about. I find it funny that a poster who listened to the poor quality can hear that but the others who have that same quality who attend the live shows never picked up on it. I always thought that proof of lip sinking was seeing the performance live. The way you present it here is like putting the cart before the horse.

So Dean what more can you offer? I gave it the time you asked for and I can’t hear it. Sorry that is just the way it is. I would think your concern is of your use of bootlegs posted on an open forum. Did you receive permission?
.
Thank you for giving me the chance to hear your side of the story. Thank God it isn't true.

[Rockindeano]

I’ve got much mail in recent days from people thanking me for the stand taken here in these pages on behalf of Journey.

Yeah, I believe that. Email from the blind followers.

It’s a shame that DBoy chooses to use PM’s as a weapon of personal destruction, especially against women while using these pages for an attempt at professional destruction, distraction, and jerk ridicule.

Shall I really post your PM? Hey, when you threaten my life and my daughters' all rules go out the window.

A website dedicated to the agenda with unlicensed illegal music can’t be enough; It’s got to continue here without jurisdiction. Where’s the music police, RIAA when needed?

It's NOT illegal to have bootlegs Craigy. EVERYONE here has them and EVERYONE here trades them. I love the high and almighty policing done by you freaks.

You might get a firewall DBoy; Did you know you have an open port? Lots of trash on the system. Your IP is in the US, not down under. Andrew can’t protect you.

Yep, I know that. I am still waiting for you to hop a plane and come out here and deal with me. I am not hiding. Camarillo, California. Come get you some.

Unlicensed, illegal music is punishable by law.

So is threatening bodily harm via the internet. What isn't punishable?

There were no tour health issues in 2005 besides a late appendectomy.

Oh really? What about the pnuemonia issue? Are you saying that was a lie? I know a bunch of Chileans who would love verification by an insider. Hey, if the band can lie about that, how can you say they are telling the truth now?

The occasional common cold and flu makes the rounds every year. Anyone who says they know otherwise just can’t see the forest for the trees. JRNY has worked their ass’ off for 8 years in sweltering heat, high humidity, frigid air conditioning, high pressure, and thin air. They’ve spent long days in airports, and cramped quarters.

You make it seem like they are soldiers. For Christs' sake, they are musicians. And get paid really well. No sympathy from me. deal with it.

The band went out there night after night, fought dehydration, fatigue, meet and cheats, yet still being the troopers that they are stepped up to the plate and performed to the highest standards giving 110% to every member of the JRNY family, plus the ticket buying public.

Bullshit. How you fight dehydration? Get some fucking water. i have seen their charter. they get so much bottled water, medicine, soda, beer, et al. Save the dramatics.

Giving 110%? Spare me. They resorted to tape. They also left a show early too IIRC.

Stevie Augeri was a trooper too, and forced to change his routine far and above the norm for the good of the band plus longtime fans such as ourselves.

He was? He played guitar for an extra hour a night..Big deal. Then he acted for 2 hours. I mean really acted.

It couldn’t have been easy to get stage ready only to play guitar for an hour. Especially, considering he had no guitar tech.

Please. You know why he didn't have a guitar tech? His volume was so low it couldn't be heard anyway. So what if he had a guitar tech? Hell in Irvine, the fuckin thing wasn't even plugged in!

He did it, without complaint, adapted, and moved on. Not only did he adapt, he got stronger and stronger.

Amazing what "enhancements" will do, eh?

By the second week of the ‘05 tour there were classic songs that many stated were the best versions of those classics ever performed.

Funny how you mention the 2nd week. That is precisely when I have declared them going to tape. Really peculiar.

Generations numbers were overwhelmingly received.

Not really Craig. Opening night, they played eight of the songs. By week 2, they were down to 2 SA, 1 Ross, and 1 Jon. Gone Crazy was well received? Dude, the beer lines looked like Disneyland queue lines, they were so long.

As much as the set list varied from Summer into Fall it’s impossible to pull off such a technically enhanced feat that is alleged here.

Mo, and this is where you have to listen. I allege that about 8 songs, all lead singer songs were duped. That's quite easy to pull off. BGTY, Escape, Ask the Lonely, Faithfully, AWYWI, DSB, TPIYH, and Separate ways..all lipped. Very easy.

It’s only alleged, and the theory is weak at its very core with no factual basis or foundation.

yep, only alleged. Go listen. It's obvious.

Nice try on the “ear thingy’s” DBoy. They’re called portable stage monitors. If Kevin had a hand in overlaying anything new into a performance he’d have to wear a set of the “ear thingy’s” too so he could hear the click start back at the soundboard. He doesn’t wear them.

Yeah, I know. So they use stage monitors instead of ear plug ins. Same thing. Elson is the conductor..plain and simple. Hey Craig, call up Kev and tell him to refute this.

Don’t let the sour bird brained agenda of one ruin it for you, your children, your spouse, mothers, and fathers. There’s never been a better time to be a JRNY fan.

No better time? Gee, I remember when the band was number one in the world. Selling out stadiums, and multi night shows in every city..New songs on the radio. I remember a time when this kind of conversation NEVER would have ocurred.

Generations is phenomenal, and not since Motown was viable has there been a more soulful collection of vocal masterpiece sprinkled on one record.

I liked it when it came out. I am soured on it now. That thing was thrown together in 2 weeks. Hell, Neal didn't even know what songs were on it.

The Dallas DVD is on the horizon and promises to be the ultimate for any Journey fan, young or old, and everybody sings! “Let them sing.”

I wouldn't be too sure about this, Craig. IF they release this, and it matches up with Vegas, their toast. My money says no Dallas DVD.

Clean this place up, and make it a safe haven for everyone who wants to rejoice in the magic that is Journey. Build a community, not a cult.

I am just trying to bring to light what I think is wrong. Morally wrong. I don't want a cult.

No one here has a right to trash JRNY, or Steve Augeri.

Yes they do. I have only trashed Journey lately because of bullshit work ethic. It stinks to high heaven. And when I watch Steve Augeri in the Beacon DVD, acting, faking, and pretending to be emotional and heartfelt, all the while a tape is being played...I was sick. Screw Journey until they get their shit together.

Without him, the last 10 years would have been nothing. Just like DBoy’s nothing illegal recordings. So much for that sincere apology huh DBoy? What a real man you are. Remember; Melted and poured.

Hey Mr. Insider, you do know Augeri was going to be replaced, right? You know they were all set to go with another singer, right? The young kid from Vegas. he kid who sounded like Perry. You do know this, right?Stop trying to pour perfume on a pile of shit. Things aren't as rosy as you say they are.

“You can lose yourself along the way finding something new in yesterday.”
Augeri & DeRossi ‘05

Posting song lyrics from Believe? Now that is pathetic

[Rockindeano]

Rusty, go to school.

Separate ways was done like that on purpose. The left is a touch lower than the right.

Now, keeping this civil, why is the music a little different, yet the vocals are spot on?

The boots are just that..Boots. On the boots, He mentions the city they are in, however, doesn't mention them during EVERY song. You think I would risk slander charges going into this with just BS tapes? Trust me, I could win easily with this in court. Easy.

Go listen again. The music is way different, but the vox are dead on.

I will have the other 5 tracks donne next week.

PS. Go put on Arrival 2001 DVD and play the Toronto or Greek boots at the same time with it. Synch em up. The TV and your stereo will be the same. I guarantee it.

[Rockindeano]

Rusty, no flame intended here..

But can I ask you something?

Yesterday, on your first post, you called me a liar, denied my claims, and said you were right because you said so.

Now today, you come back with an open mind, and say you will listen to the links.

Can you please explain this?

[Pit]

Dang DBoy, what took you so long? Time's a fleeting. Great reviews coming in from across the pond already.

Just for the record.

The Chili show was in 2006. If you can't get your facts straight- and being such an angry young tormented soul,- it's obvious that you can't, why even bother?

I didn't threaten your daughter big man, but I did crash your theory, and your smal nads to high heaven; Read it again. Slowly.

adious
pit

[Abitaman]

Give it a rest RD, you made you point to some, others don't see it. Or some like me can see a little back up help MAYBE, but not anything like you think. It is time to move on, some of the only ones who have really supported you are the Perry people. Your "friends" have not gotten behind you. You made your point to some. Next case please.-ERIC

[Rockindeano]

Give it a rest RD, you made you point to some, others don't see it. Or some like me can see a little back up help MAYBE, but not anything like you think. It is time to move on, some of the only ones who have really supported you are the Perry people. Your "friends" have not gotten behind you. You made your point to some. Next case please.-ERIC

Eric, please don't interfere. This doesn't include you.

[Mrs H]

Okay, since you addressed me specifically......and in all this, I really didn't say much.......

Deano, were you abused as a child?

Because something sure happened. This started out as an apology thread, but in a perfect illustration of "your heart's not really behind it", it didn't take you long to drag this one into depths so low I can't even see it.

What really really shocks me over these past few days is that I always held Lula in very high regard and I am still trying to metabolize why she would be even remotely involved with someone of your volatility and heartlessness. IMO, she deserves better, way better.

Sincerely, Val reporting from romper room diaper duty.

[Rockindeano]

Dang DBoy, what took you so long? Time's a fleeting. Great reviews coming in from across the pond already.

So what? What does that prove?

Just for the record.

The Chili show was in 2006. If you can't get your facts straight-

Ok Craig, for all intents and purposes of our argument, my claim is anything 2nd week of Generations tour through the cancelled Chile show.

Tell you what big guy, get me a boot of one of these Limey shows..What are you afraid of?

I didn't threaten your daughter big man,

Shall I post your PM? And really have you exposed?

but I did crash your theory,

Saying you take pics and Steve Augeri is a nice guy hardly crashes a theory. Besides, it is a fact now, no longer a theory.

and your smal nads to high heaven; Read it again. Slowly.

adious
pit

You ever go to school? Doesn't look like it, hick.

[Infinity]

Again? I mean here's the proof right under our noses and some people still want to believe it's not true.
Yep,another method is to pop in the 2001 DVD and match it up with the stereo.Seriously,one must be deaf not to hear the identical vocals!

Pitty,you didn't crash any theory.You babbled about some studio you went in - is that a proof?Get real.Do you have an audio track to sustain your case?Maybe we would pay attention if you would come up with something valid,you know what I'm sayin`?

Rusty....Rusty...I feel for you,man.
You need to take this test.Don't be afraid,it's painless and free.
http://deafness.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=deafness&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freehearingtest.com%2Ftest.shtml

Also,you could try removing the wax from your ears.They say "Excessive cerumen may impede the passage of sound in the ear canal, causing conductive hearing loss."

[rustygreen]

Rusty, no flame intended here..

But can I ask you something?

Yesterday, on your first post, you called me a liar, denied my claims, and said you were right because you said so.

Now today, you come back with an open mind, and say you will listen to the links.

Can you please explain this?

Yes I can. It's because I am a much better person than you are. I know that hurts but its true. I was wrong to jump on you without the proof but I was more upset at the way you were treating everyone. I am more of a man then you think I am. I really really listened. Now that I have, you doubt my findings. Let it go. I know when an issue is dead. We will never see eye to eye. I did the fair thing here. Why can't you?

For the record Dean I have always liked Lula. We have talked a few times by phone. I will never question the relationship you two have but I feel that because you hate so many of us that you found a way to get to her. The music is one thing but friends are another. Lula if you read this you had so many friends who cared for you. Friends who did things for you. You shared a many great times with them. You left them behind and they feel hurt. Be with who you want to be with and think what you want to think but Dean said that he stole you away. Why? Did you need to be saved? I guess only you know that for sure. Sorry if I made you feel hurt.

[Rockindeano]

Val, go back and read. It was an apology of sorts, until your side started in.. Augeri1 started, rebecca and rusty chimed in, and now we are full blown again.

Congrats.

Hey, if I am so wrong, why must you all keep coming back for asskickings? I need to know how some people can be so fucking stupid?

I also don't know why you keep bringing Lula up. She, just as Perry, is NOT involved with this.