What will Perry think of all this?

by **bionic** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:47 am

Wondered if Steve Perry has heard this rumour? and will he react to it as it puts a bad light on Journey in general. Especially as he still is involved in the bands releases etc.

by **Argus** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:51 am

you think he will kill his cash cow? no way.. it is to his fiscal advantage to let the Journey continue :roll:

by **knox** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:55 am

My speculation? Inside he will love it. It will stroke his pride that they have to do this. Will he go on record or even talk about it? Not that I can see.

by **Marabelle** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:59 am

i wouldn't think he'd make any public statements; that would be the kiss of death. it would be unwise to join the conversation. and i don't think he'd love this; why would you enjoy seeing the band you helped in making such a powerful and popular band be slammed with all of these
comments true or untrue. now that would be sick.

by **heardonthestreet** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:12 am

Regardless of if Journey responds, I tend to think that the other shoe has not dropped yet. It's too big an accusation to not have something more concrete.

Someone mentioned that Perry was asked by Neal to return and after a few days, Perry said, "No." The search for a new lead singer was mentioned. What was that all about? If there is something to this, then Perry has to know the status of the band.

Abitiman! Wasn't that your post?

by **perry4me** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:17 am

I think Steve Perry must have a bit of internal satisfaction. He himself has spoken against the band's decisions in interviews.I don't think he will gloat about it publicly.
Maybe Neal Schon could issue a public apology to Perry and ask him to come back publicly....yeah right.....

by **Mrs H** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:26 am

He will say, "Wow, I should have thought of that when I was up in Chicago trying to sing Don't Stop Believin'"

by **perry4me** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:31 am

Thank goodness, that even after shouting at 4 games straight he was still able to carry the tune and his voice wasn't cracking like Augeri's!

by AR » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:31 am

He will say, "Wow, I should have thought of that when I was up in Chicago trying to sing Don't Stop Believin'"

by **ohsherrie** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:22 am

perry4me wrote:I think Steve Perry must have a bit of internal satisfaction. He himself has spoken against the band's decisions in interviews.I don't think he will gloat about it publicly.

With ya there.

by AR » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:26 am

I think Steve Perry must have a bit of internal satisfaction

Who cares what he thinks? His current vocal ability is in just as much question. At least Augeri sang live from 1998 to around 2005 while the hermit has done nothing for his fans.

It's a shame Journey has toured so damn much to blow out Augeri's voice. It's an equal shame that Steve Perry doesn't want to sing at all.

by **perry4me** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:55 am

arrivalrules wrote:
I think Steve Perry must have a bit of internal satisfaction

Who cares what he thinks? His current vocal ability is in just as much question. At least Augeri sang live from 1998 to around 2005 while the hermit has done nothing for his fans.

It's a shame Journey has toured so damn much to blow out Augeri's voice. It's an equal shame that Steve Perry doesn't want to sing at all.

As much as I hate to admit it, he has done his fans a disservice by not singing. I think he does want to sing, it is just that Latin pride thing doing him in.(I am allowed to say this being Latina myself) :wink:

Edited for spelling

by **heardonthestreet** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:01 am

Golly, maybe the guys wanted him to use tapes back for TBF and maybe it was prevalent then and he just said, "Nawwww, I'll quit while I'm ahead." I wish he would have an autobiography done.

by AR » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:07 am

Golly, maybe the guys wanted him to use tapes back for TBF and maybe it was prevalent then and he just said, "Nawwww, I'll quit while I'm ahead

You never know. That is tough material and I would not have blamed SP if that was the case. SP is in his mid 50's. Steve A is what, 47?

Just watching some footage and Augeri was still singing live as of 2/27/05. I'm not sure exactly when this all started. Probably just the Generations tour from what I can tell. In any event, it hasn't been going on that long. Augeri has been a very good front man for a very long time. It's a shame this has all come out recently, and I hope it doesn't detract from the years he has given this band.

by **rere13** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:12 am

Some here may have a problem with Perry for many reasons but at least he stayed true to the music.
It's funny the current lineup thought they would never need Perry again. Now they may need him more then ever for crediability sake.

by AR » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:21 am

Now they made need him more then ever for crediability sake.

He couldn't sing the material at this point. That's just my opinion of course.

Calling Hugo, Kevin Chaflant? Anyone else want to be abused for too much touring? :lol:

I would love to here Steve Perry sing again. Ain't going to happen. He'd be in the same position Augeri is in now.

by **Pit** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:22 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Golly, maybe the guys wanted him to use tapes back for TBF and maybe it was prevalent then and he just said, "Nawwww, I'll quit while I'm ahead." I wish he would have an autobiography done.

Autobiography? Are you kidding? He wouldn't dare. Where's Svant? He might be the only journalist willing to lie in print that won't come back and bite him down the road. Your hero knows if he speaks out in print he is fair game, and there should be no doubt to any of you that Herbie would be the first in line to spill the beans. The refried beans.
He'd have to be over a barrell - big time financially- (and thanks to Journey he's not) to ever even authorize any autobiographical musings.
Get real.
Do ya think he's worried about these rumours? Laughable. He can't sing, and his only source of income is the catalog. Biz sense added, and it will come to you. In a dream after dream maybe, but you'll understand.
The Pheads have been had. Day after day after day.

by **rere13** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:28 am

arrivalrules wrote:
Now they made need him more then ever for crediability sake.

He couldn't sing the material at this point. That's just my opinion of course.

Calling Hugo, Kevin Chaflant? Anyone else want to be abused for too much touring?

I would love to here Steve Perry sing again. Ain't going to happen. He'd be in the same position Augeri is in now.

Who said anything about singing? Leadership is done in many ways.

by **4_Fox_Sake** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:29 am

ace wrote:you think he will kill his cash cow? no way.. it is to his fiscal advantage to let the Journey continue

I have to agree with Ace. Perry’s ain't in this one. Perry would be too obvious a suspect and has more to loose than gain. There is someone who knows the band better than him and is much more bitter about the bands existence and management. He has a real ax to grind and would like to put the blame on Perry.

No one seems to mention this guy, but everyone has read all the bitterness this person gives out in interviews. He hates the band and that the are still going. He’d like to see the Journey ride end because he hates them all and hates the management and Perry. It’s the same person who bitched about the current Journey management-being useless but getting paid more than he did.. What better way to show this now by forcing Management to show how well they can/can’t handle this? It also sets up the Perry/ Augeri/ Journey camps against each other, while he gets to sit back and laugh.

This dude...

Hates the guys associated with Journey- except for one past member who he speaks well of.

Would like to see the guys end up with paper cups in their hands begging for money because “he could have set them up for life”, but they didn’t do what he wanted. They still tour.

Refused to come back and work with them. Is bitter and vengeful (to this day) over how he was fired.

Hates Perry and would love to see him loose the “cash cow”.

Hates Jon Cain accused him of not being able to sing and uses a click track to sing.

Don’t like Azoff

Feels betrayed by Neal for “throwing him under the truck” years ago.

Sold off a ton of his Journey stuff in April after many years hangging on. Almost like Martha Stewart in her stock dumping scandal, before the company went under-which she knew about.

Has a connection to Sweden and could easily known the band would fall, pictures included (remember he managed Roxette and would have connections to Swedish music stations).

Said he would not have hired Augeri and that the other singer could really sing...

Says that the band are a bunch of losers and an embarrassment to him.

Says they won’t ever have a hit record.

Knows they have no investments to help themselves if they stop touring

Likes to look good

Can then turn around and say, if his blows up, revenge is sweet.

People can now see him and “his” Journey being legendary under his leadership.

For him it’s all about karma and his ego. The guy is bitter enough to be behind this more than anyone. All he needs to do, is get the scandal out and use the people who like him to do it. His fight ain’ts just with the band but with the band’s management to embarrass them.

I don’t know what the band did or didn’t do! If we go with conspiracy theories and who would set them up, I’d place my money on the most bitter person towards all Journey members and management. He’s the least obvious and the one person who seems to like attention and hates the band. My money’s on the ex management dude with the matching first and last name being behind a lot of this. He has said everything I listed above recently in interviews. He ain't shy about how he feels. He seems to have connections to everyone in the story and has nothing to loose. It ain't over till the fat (ex) man (ager) sings :lol:

by **Magwheels** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:49 am

To Journey:

You've got something to hide.. and it's your singing ability......
You've got something to hide.. we all knowwwwwwwwwww...

Imagine if this were about Steve Perry. I'd love to see what the "it doesn't matter" crowd would be saying then.

Tapes or not... it's all still fake.

Perry Rulz

by **Liz22562** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:58 am

I'd say the same thing if it was Perry...and it's the same as I've said over the last few weeks.

So what?

by **Argus** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:59 am

4_Fox_Sake wrote:
ace wrote:you think he will kill his cash cow? no way.. it is to his fiscal advantage to let the Journey continue

I have to agree with Ace. Perry’s ain't in this one. Perry would be too obvious a suspect and has more to loose than gain. There is someone who knows the band better than him and is much more bitter about the bands existence and management. He has a real ax to grind and would like to put the blame on Perry.

No one seems to mention this guy, but everyone has read all the bitterness this person gives out in interviews. He hates the band and that the are still going. He’d like to see the Journey ride end because he hates them all and hates the management and Perry. It’s the same person who bitched about the current Journey management-being useless but getting paid more than he did.. What better way to show this now by forcing Management to show how well they can/can’t handle this? It also sets up the Perry/ Augeri/ Journey camps against each other, while he gets to sit back and laugh.

This dude...

Hates the guys associated with Journey- except for one past member who he speaks well of.

Would like to see the guys end up with paper cups in their hands begging for money because “he could have set them up for life”, but they didn’t do what he wanted. They still tour.

Refused to come back and work with them. Is bitter and vengeful (to this day) over how he was fired.

Hates Perry and would love to see him loose the “cash cow”.

Hates Jon Cain accused him of not being able to sing and uses a click track to sing.

Don’t like Azoff

Feels betrayed by Neal for “throwing him under the truck” years ago.

Sold off a ton of his Journey stuff in April after many years hangging on. Almost like Martha Stewart in her stock dumping scandal, before the company went under-which she knew about.

Has a connection to Sweden and could easily known the band would fall, pictures included (remember he managed Roxette and would have connections to Swedish music stations).

Said he would not have hired Augeri and that the other singer could really sing...

Says that the band are a bunch of losers and an embarrassment to him.

Says they won’t ever have a hit record.

Knows they have no investments to help themselves if they stop touring

Likes to look good

Can then turn around and say, if his blows up, revenge is sweet.

People can now see him and “his” Journey being legendary under his leadership.

For him it’s all about karma and his ego. The guy is bitter enough to be behind this more than anyone. All he needs to do, is get the scandal out and use the people who like him to do it. His fight ain’ts just with the band but with the band’s management to embarrass them.

I don’t know what the band did or didn’t do! If we go with conspiracy theories and who would set them up, I’d place my money on the most bitter person towards all Journey members and management. He’s the least obvious and the one person who seems to like attention and hates the band. My money’s on the ex management dude with the matching first and last name being behind a lot of this. He has said everything I listed above recently in interviews. He ain't shy about how he feels. He seems to have connections to everyone in the story and has nothing to loose. It ain't over till the fat (ex) man (ager) sings

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting considering RND supposed trip up North to see a mystery person about the time RND started to turn away from the band..... :shock:

by **Carrington** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:01 am

Magwheels wrote:To Journey:

You've got something to hide.. and it's your singing ability......
You've got something to hide.. we all knowwwwwwwwwww...

Imagine if this were about Steve Perry. I'd love to see what the "it doesn't matter" crowd would be saying then.

Tapes or not... it's all still fake.

Perry Rulz

True that!.......but you'd never get the "koolaid" drinkers to ever admit anything.......

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:06 am

Forget Perry, forget Augeri, I want Kevin Chalfont as the lead vocalist of Journey.

In all seriousness if Kevin Chalfont were the singer in Journey (and he is fully capable of being their singer too) it might shut up all of the constant bitching that goes back and forth between the pro-Perry and pro-Augeri fans!

Steve Perry is my second favorite singer of all time, but then again that was the 1970's and 1980's Steve Perry.

This is 2006 and Steve augeri is the singer in Journey and he does a damn good job of it too!

I also love Kevin Chalfont's singing!

But first and foremost I am a Journey fan, and those who are trying to kill one of the grteatest bands of all time just need to get an F-ing life already!

by **Magwheels** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:08 am

I heard a rumor that Ashlee Simpson will be joining them on their upcoming tour.

by **Magwheels** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:09 am

Kevin has joined another band(in case you didn't know). He prefers to sing it all..during concerts as well.

by AR » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:27 am

Kevin has joined another band(in case you didn't know). He prefers to sing it all..during concerts as well.

Yep Kevin is in Shooting Star. About 5 people on the planet know or care. Just as many people would come to see me in concert as them. And that is no reflection on their talent at all.

by **Magwheels** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:29 am

Oh..I think you'll be surprised.

But all they'd have to do is get Def Leppard to tour with them.

by AR » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:38 am

But all they'd have to do is get Def Leppard to tour with them

That would be pretty cool actually.

by **Monker** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:39 am

Magwheels wrote:To Journey:

You've got something to hide.. and it's your singing ability......
You've got something to hide.. we all knowwwwwwwwwww...

Imagine if this were about Steve Perry. I'd love to see what the "it doesn't matter" crowd would be saying then.

Tapes or not... it's all still fake.

Perry Rulz

Alright, Mags is back! Cool! Even talking about KC...did they let you back on the list after you got yourself banned for acting like an ass?

MR

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