MR

That's the way that I look at this.

Like Andrew said, "Nobody cares."

At least it is now under scrutiny and a fan can make up their own mind if they want to enjoy a concert of this nature. Lots of fans don't care, many do care and others don't GAS because for them, when Perry was left behind, Journey ended for them.

The bands performance will have to be performed and witnessed with a lesser degree of enjoyment now. The loyal fans may cheer twice as loud just to show their support and the band will know if they deserve it. The gratification of applause is knowing you deserved it.

This has not all been for nothing. It's left it's mark and whatever happens, happens.

"And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make."

GPJR

"All lies and jest, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

S&G

"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. "


Wm.S

Thank you CJ for those SO enlightening quotes....

heardonthestreet wrote:That's the way that I look at this.

Like Andrew said, "Nobody cares."

At least it is now under scrutiny and a fan can make up their own mind if they want to enjoy a concert of this nature. Lots of fans don't care, many do care and others don't GAS because for them, when Perry was left behind, Journey ended for them.

The bands performance will have to be performed and witnessed with a lesser degree of enjoyment now. The loyal fans may cheer twice as loud just to show their support and the band will know if they deserve it. The gratification of applause is knowing you deserved it.

This has not all been for nothing. It's left it's mark and whatever happens, happens.

I have a brother who I have always grown-up arguing and fighting with, and I mean brutal fist fights where we have litterally sent each other to the hospital from injuries.

He and I will criticize and complain about one another constantly, and we still argue a ton as adults.

But when someone out side the family attacks one of your family members it makes you stick together closer than before. It makes you fight not against your family member but with and for your family member!

If these allegations have any truth at all it still CAN-NOT end the love that I have for the band for the last 25 years! No matter what I will always love Journey and will always consider one of their concerts to be one of the highlights of my year each year!

And if the allegations are false, which I'm fairly certain they are, it will only make me and countless others stick-up for the band more than ever before!!!

He may not think so now, but the person who started this insane witch-hunt may actually help unite the fans more than they ever had before, or at least in recent years!?!?

Journey/Survivor wrote:

heardonthestreet wrote:That's the way that I look at this.

Like Andrew said, "Nobody cares."

At least it is now under scrutiny and a fan can make up their own mind if they want to enjoy a concert of this nature. Lots of fans don't care, many do care and others don't GAS because for them, when Perry was left behind, Journey ended for them.

The bands performance will have to be performed and witnessed with a lesser degree of enjoyment now. The loyal fans may cheer twice as loud just to show their support and the band will know if they deserve it. The gratification of applause is knowing you deserved it.

This has not all been for nothing. It's left it's mark and whatever happens, happens.

I have a brother who I have always grown-up arguing and fighting with, and I mean brutal fist fights where we have litterally sent each other to the hospital from injuries.

He and I will criticize and complain about one another constantly, and we still argue a ton as adults.

But when someone out side the family attacks one of your family members it makes you stick together closer than before. It makes you fight not against your family member but with and for your family member!

If these allegations have any truth at all it still CAN-NOT end the love that I have for the band for the last 25 years! No matter what I will always love Journey and will always consider one of their concerts to be one of the highlights of my year each year!

And if the allegations are false, which I'm fairly certain they are, it will only make me and countless others stick-up for the band more than ever before!!!

He may not think so now, but the person who started this insane witch-hunt may actually help unite the fans more than they ever had before, or at least in recent years!?!?

.....................................................

He may just have done that or made it worse, which is why I stated, whatever happens, happens.

heardonthestreet wrote:That's the way that I look at this.

Like Andrew said, "Nobody cares."

I don't believe I EVER said that...

No lawyers are looking....no one is looking because no one cares.
_________________
Best Regards,
Andrew.

................................

Sorry Andrew. I guess that I read this wrong.

heardonthestreet wrote:No lawyers are looking....no one is looking because no one cares.
_________________
Best Regards,
Andrew.

................................

Sorry Andrew. I guess that I read this wrong.

Yeah, you did. He meant no one cares about a bunch of geeks on a message board.

voiceofreason wrote:Thank you CJ for those SO enlightening quotes....

Ace?? You are CJ??

perryfaithful wrote:

voiceofreason wrote:Thank you CJ for those SO enlightening quotes....

Ace?? You are CJ??

This explains a lot

perryfaithful wrote:Ace?? You are CJ??

He was being sarcastic? I think?

BINGO!! Ding ding!

ace wrote:"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. "


Wm.S

Oh, Do I have one for you:

"All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
Its really just a question
Of your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity"

tragchk wrote:

ace wrote:"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. "


Wm.S

Oh, Do I have one for you:

"All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
Its really just a question
Of your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity"

Rush Spirit of the Radio, 1st cut off of Permanent Waves.
Great album.

tragchk wrote:

ace wrote:"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. "


Wm.S

Oh, Do I have one for you:

"All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
Its really just a question
Of your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity"

From the three man band that plays live like an orchestra.

Try again sister. Thats as lame as they come. Reach again but next time you may want to leave out "have I got one for you!" I'm sure you do.

Oh, and isn't there a big chink in the armour of Andy and Otis now.

Never said that huh Andy? Stranger bedfellows indeed. Better increase that distance while you can Andy, and don't say you were'nt warned.

OH LAUD!!!!

Pit wrote:

tragchk wrote:

ace wrote:"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. "


Wm.S

Oh, Do I have one for you:

"All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
Its really just a question
Of your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity"

From the three man band that plays live like an orchestra.

Try again sister. Thats as lame as they come. Reach again but next time you may want to leave out "have I got one for you!" I'm sure you do.

Oh, and isn't there a big chink in the armour of Andy and Otis now.

Never said that huh Andy? Stranger bedfellows indeed. Better increase that distance while you can Andy, and don't say you were'nt warned.

OH LAUD!!!!

I really don't give a $#!T WHO you are.

There's enough "campfires" around that need to be put out to worry about...

I'll sit back and wait for the official word, thank you very much....

oh and PS:

Don't EVER talk down to me again

PPS -

PAY ATTENTION TO THE WORDS I UNDERLINED....gee...aren't they APPROPRIATE??

Or is your PAYCHECK dictating your beliefs?

tragchk wrote:

Pit wrote:

tragchk wrote:

ace wrote:"And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. "


Wm.S

Oh, Do I have one for you:

"All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
Its really just a question
Of your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity"

From the three man band that plays live like an orchestra.

Try again sister. Thats as lame as they come. Reach again but next time you may want to leave out "have I got one for you!" I'm sure you do.

Oh, and isn't there a big chink in the armour of Andy and Otis now.

Never said that huh Andy? Stranger bedfellows indeed. Better increase that distance while you can Andy, and don't say you were'nt warned.

OH LAUD!!!!

I really don't give a $#!T WHO you are.

There's enough "campfires" around that need to be put out to worry about...

I'll sit back and wait for the official word, thank you very much....

oh and PS:

Don't EVER talk down to me again

PPS -

PAY ATTENTION TO THE WORDS I UNDERLINED....gee...aren't they APPROPRIATE??

Or is your PAYCHECK dictating your beliefs?

I work for myself, and it's quite lucrative thank you. I do not work for JRNY, but have worked for journeymusic.com on occasion. I think I made this perfectly clear on day one I enetered this fray, alone.

I don't see any underlined words, but I am quite capable of separating fact from fiction. You folks that separate everything in your replys needn't bother. I can keep up.

Official word? Are you kidding? JRNY don't have to respond to Jack Shit. They've done nothing wrong. They made Andy, and sadly may end up breaking him. one should never bite the hand that feeds. Ever.

Sing that note your next time out sweetie.

cp

Pit wrote:I don't see any underlined words,

Thats cause you're a twit..!

She was referring to her original post, dipshit...



Ray

Pit wrote:They've done nothing wrong. They made Andy, and sadly may end up breaking him. one should never bite the hand that feeds. Ever.

Dude, you are getting more delusional with every post. Journey "made" me? HA!
I had no idea that mr was just a Journey fansite. Once again, you are bringing more fascinating facts to my attention for the first time.

Journey have no problem whatsoever with what I have done on mr.com.

Go find yourself a new target.

Clasicrockldy wrote:You know Pit, you are getting really annoying.

To say that Journey made Andrew, if that is what you are inplying here, is possibly way offbase. Andrew has stayed netural on this whole issue. So Andrew isn't biting the hand that feeds him. Journey isn't the only Melodic Rock group out there.

You can put your pitiful digs in to make yourself feel better, but it is making you look like an ass........

And if Journey management is as smart as they should be, then someone should address this issue. For me, I could care less. I am not on any side. But, nothing from the Journey camp is a bit odd............ if they have integrity.

I live to be annoying to wasted minds.

Integrity is in JRNY 's corner, and has been since day 1 lady.

Elementary BS accusations only make them stronger, for there is no proof. Just words. Bullshit words, and thats the last thing on JRNY's mind.

You guys are backing a loser who doesn't even have a drivers license. Things must be sad over on HeartNail street, 'cuz the nail is very close to driving straight through the heart.

It's my sincere hope that you will all stand up and say "I was wrong" when it happens, and it's not a matter of if, just when.

Bank on that.

cp

Ray,

I think Pit is looking at the world with rose colored glasses.........

Clasicrockldy wrote:Ray,

I think Pit is looking at the world with rose colored glasses.........

If he is even LOOKING, that is...


Ray

rubiconman wrote:

Clasicrockldy wrote:Ray,

I think Pit is looking at the world with rose colored glasses.........

If he is even LOOKING, that is...


Ray

I think they are blinders...........

Pit wrote:I live to be annoying to wasted minds.

Integrity is in JRNY 's corner, and has been since day 1 lady.

Elementary BS accusations only make them stronger, for there is no proof. Just words. Bullshit words, and thats the last thing on JRNY's mind.

You guys are backing a loser who doesn't even have a drivers license. Things must be sad over on HeartNail street, 'cuz the nail is very close to driving straight through the heart.

It's my sincere hope that you will all stand up and say "I was wrong" when it happens, and it's not a matter of if, just when.

Bank on that.

cp

Dude, WHAT kind of crack are you on...???

Can I have some....??






Ray

Pit wrote: They made Andy,

cp

Screw you..!!

I have been visiting this site from day 1 (almost), and its one of the best mr sites around.

Andrew is a stand up guy and a lot of us here have a lot of respect for him....Journey NEVER 'made' Andrew....please...!

P.S I am not kissin' Drew's ass....but it kinda pissed me off reading what shit... I mean pit said....

Ray



Ray

Pit wrote:

Clasicrockldy wrote:You know Pit, you are getting really annoying.

To say that Journey made Andrew, if that is what you are inplying here, is possibly way offbase. Andrew has stayed netural on this whole issue. So Andrew isn't biting the hand that feeds him. Journey isn't the only Melodic Rock group out there.

You can put your pitiful digs in to make yourself feel better, but it is making you look like an ass........

And if Journey management is as smart as they should be, then someone should address this issue. For me, I could care less. I am not on any side. But, nothing from the Journey camp is a bit odd............ if they have integrity.

I live to be annoying to wasted minds.

Integrity is in JRNY 's corner, and has been since day 1 lady.

Elementary BS accusations only make them stronger, for there is no proof. Just words. Bullshit words, and thats the last thing on JRNY's mind.

You guys are backing a loser who doesn't even have a drivers license. Things must be sad over on HeartNail street, 'cuz the nail is very close to driving straight through the heart.

It's my sincere hope that you will all stand up and say "I was wrong" when it happens, and it's not a matter of if, just when.

Bank on that.

cp

Jeeze Pit........ you do need glasses........... I said and I will repeat this........ I COULD CARE LESS BECAUSE I AM NOT ON ANY SIDE. Now can you see it?............

But what I do have an issue with is the reluctance of any type of official word from management, Journey themselves. Not saying a thing will not make this go away.

Listen up buttercup, if integrity was there from day one, then why not address the issues at hand?...that would show alot of guts, and integrity from the band...... instead of them running behind Azoff and hiding, or ignoring it.. Now that is elementary BS.

And btw, you must have to spout off the company line, since you don't want to "bite the hand that feeds ya......... sometimes...... " .

And sometimes your words are bullshit........ just the same old company line....... "they have integrity"....... "they don't have to answer to this" ........ sounds like an automated robot to me........

rubiconman wrote:

Pit wrote: They made Andy,

cp

Screw you..!!

I have been visiting this site from day 1 (almost), and its one of the best mr sites around.

Andrew is a stand up guy and a lot of us here have a lot of respect for him....Journey NEVER 'made' Andrew....please...!

P.S I am not kissin' Drew's ass....but it kinda pissed me off reading what shit... I mean pit said....

Ray
Ray

See?

Elementary my friend. glasses or not; colored or not.

Monkers been around as long as I have. Can't believe you all never learned. Pay attention. It'll help your stress.

The truth will set you free. It'll come to ya.

cp