Until Rockn'deano cleans up his blog..

[BUTTWHOLE]

....people like Tmoney,BT'ers, about 1/2 the regulars on here and most normal people are going to think he is a flaming asshole. Before you couple of hens start clucking around defending him... go look at his blog(the new stuff)! People from first grade till death who act like that get screwed with. Its just a fact of life! Most people cant help themselves. If you dont act like a normal person you wont get treated like one. What.. because he said he was KINDA wrong the other day people should like him now? Dont forget he has had a blast getting people on here as pissed he could get them. So i dont feel bad for him one bit.

[Liam]

I'll defend him from people like you since you're just adding fuel to fire.
He wants the truth and so do I.

[Clasicrockldy]

I'll defend him from people like you since you're just adding fuel to fire.
He wants the truth and so do I.

NIG? Where are you? We need one of the "Don't Feed The Trolls!" sign again !

[BUTTWHOLE]

Let me ask you a really good question: WHAT IF the truth is that he was singing for 99.5% of his concerts. But used the tapes to help out a few times. Would he be happy with that? I dont think he would

[BUTTWHOLE]

You have to admit he has himself so worked up he may not be happy with the truth!

[Abitaman]

Let me ask you a really good question: WHAT IF the truth is that he was singing for 99.5% of his concerts. But used the tapes to help out a few times. Would he be happy with that? I dont think he would

Deano has said that all Europe shows were 100% fake. So he will not settle for anything else. So Journey will have to admitt to 100% fakery or this will go on forever. Or worse Deano is right and we will have to live with I TOLD YOU *(^^*(&*% SO for ever and ever-ERIC

[Perrysgirl]

Just go back to the hole you came out of.

[BUTTWHOLE]

Perry girl... that was a fair question i asked

[RossValoryRocks]

I'll defend him from people like you since you're just adding fuel to fire.
He wants the truth and so do I.

He is just saying that if Dean wants people to take him seriously then Dean should tone it down on his blog and here.
Dean doesn't NEED defended about his tone, he knows that his tone has been out of line.
I actually had a chance to talk with Dean about this VERY thing.
Also Dean is a BIG boy and can stick up for himself, and I think he will do it in a more positive and adult manner from now on.

[Perrysgirl]

Let me ask you this? Why not just leave him alone? What has he ever done to you if i can ask that? I am sorry it's just that i am tired of all the crap.And i would love to see this site stay open.

[BUTTWHOLE]

Go to youtube.com and listen to the samples from europe.. not even close to tape.. kinda sounds really bad if you ask me. DSB sounds flat and live for sure.

[RossValoryRocks]

Let me ask you this? Why not just leave him alone? What has he ever done to you if i can ask that? I am sorry it's just that i am tired of all the crap.And i would love to see this site stay open.

Done to me?? Personally? Nothing.

Done to himself because of how he posted, the way he attacked people who didn't see the thing he saw, or hear the things he heard rather? A lot.

People don't get taken seriously when they make up names, tell people off, cuss, swear, go tell people to crawl in a hole.

If you want to have a discussion with people the way to do it is with calm intellect and facts. Dean has facts, but no one listened to him because of how he presented them.

I am sorry if you don't like me say this, I said it to Dean and he seemed to accept it.

If he needs to defend himself he can do it, and from now on I think you will see a different side of Dean when he posts and in how he responds.

[BUTTWHOLE]

Listen I know the vegas tracks like the back of my hand. My car stereo playes dvd's so i listen the the concert almost every car ride over 15 min. If the europe stuff was tape, its not from vegas. Again, plenty of unbiased samples at youtube.com from cams and phones.

[Abitaman]

I'll defend him from people like you since you're just adding fuel to fire.
He wants the truth and so do I.

He is just saying that if Dean wants people to take him seriously then Dean should tone it down on his blog and here.
Dean doesn't NEED defended about his tone, he knows that his tone has been out of line.
I actually had a chance to talk with Dean about this VERY thing.
Also Dean is a BIG boy and can stick up for himself, and I think he will do it in a more positive and adult manner from now on.

I have talked to Deano many times on site, PM and Im about his attitude. He may change for a very short time, a day or two. But something always sets him back off, and he is worse than before. Sort of a like an alcoholic who has fallen of the wagon,goes on a drinking beign, he goes on a cussing rampage and adbuse rampage for days. He mellow out may go nice again, then he needs that hit (cussing fix) again.
This was my biggest problem with the whole thing (I believe tapes were being used to HELP) but Deano came out with an abusive mood to anyone who did not believe 100% in what he was saying. Plus he didn't it at a time when Andrew was a way for a long weekend, so the topic could not be handled by Andrew. The list goes on and on, and I don't have all day-ERIC

[RossValoryRocks]

I'll defend him from people like you since you're just adding fuel to fire.
He wants the truth and so do I.

He is just saying that if Dean wants people to take him seriously then Dean should tone it down on his blog and here.
Dean doesn't NEED defended about his tone, he knows that his tone has been out of line.
I actually had a chance to talk with Dean about this VERY thing.
Also Dean is a BIG boy and can stick up for himself, and I think he will do it in a more positive and adult manner from now on.

I have talked to Deano many times on site, PM and Im about his attitude. He may change for a very short time, a day or two. But something always sets him back off, and he is worse than before. Sort of a like an alcoholic who has fallen of the wagon,goes on a drinking beign, he goes on a cussing rampage and adbuse rampage for days. He mellow out may go nice again, then he needs that hit (cussing fix) again.
This was my biggest problem with the whole thing (I believe tapes were being used to HELP) but Deano came out with an abusive mood to anyone who did not believe 100% in what he was saying. Plus he didn't it at a time when Andrew was a way for a long weekend, so the topic could not be handled by Andrew. The list goes on and on, and I don't have all day-ERIC

Ok, I have only been following this all for a week, so I don't know about the past. We will see.

The original posters point still stands: Until Dean tunes down his blog a bit know one will take him seriously.

[Abitaman]

The original posters point still stands: Until Dean tunes down his blog a bit know one will take him seriously.

Will not argue with that -ERIC

[RossValoryRocks]

The original posters point still stands: Until Dean tunes down his blog a bit know one will take him seriously.

Will not argue with that -ERIC

even if did the no one as "know one". I am having SUCH an off day...

[Rockindeano]

Thanks for your concern Buttwhole.

The tapes are ALL from Vegas 2001. That is 100% lock stock and barrel true. I have that on concrete proof from someone from within. If you don't hear Vegas at all, then you might as well not respond, because you will never hear it. That is not even up for argument.

In fact, a certain poster in THIS thread was emailed songs from me and did a matchup of vocals. Maybe he can shed some light on this for us? ????

As for my new delivery and attitude, the last 2 days I have been calm and pleasant.

NO more cussing, tellin off or blowups. Jusy cool calm and correct.

[BUTTWHOLE]

Not even close dude! Maybe the tapes you have altered but not the samples off of youtube.com Night and Day

[BUTTWHOLE]

Within what? Band member give this too you? Roadie? Please im sure somebody who's wages depend on touring gave you the CASE BREAKER!! Please

[BUTTWHOLE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxXe5u6U ... 0of%20rock

[TRAGChick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxXe5u6UdVA&search=journey%20of%20rock

What EXACTLY is your point??

A "JumpyCam" video SNIPPET from 100 FT away?!

"Hidin'....somewhere, in the..."

Hell, I'LL sing it:

"NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!"

[Liam]

I honestly don't know how people CAN'T hear the dvd vocal on things like Ask The Lonely. It baffels me. I know that dvd backward and forward, in turn, I know the boots backward and forward. Sad shit.
Again...I AM waiting for an official word.
Laters,

[Rockindeano]

Within what? Band member give this too you? Roadie? Please im sure somebody who's wages depend on touring gave you the CASE BREAKER!! Please

Wages? Depending on touring? THAT's NOT my problem.

You break the rules, cheat, you PAY the consequences.

You can choose to believe whatever you like, I am no longer getting angry. I just know what I know. Trust me, these are all from Vegas, except the "new" songs, like Dead or Alive, Chain Reaction and so forth. Those were done in the studio too, because Augeri NEVER ever sounded that good.

[Pit]

I honestly don't know how people CAN'T hear the dvd vocal on things like Ask The Lonely. It baffels me. I know that dvd backward and forward, in turn, I know the boots backward and forward. Sad shit.
Again...I AM waiting for an official word.
Laters,

Perfectionists often perform perfectly. It's really that simple. If JRNY were out to trick you, the 2001 DVD is far from the only thing they have to fall back on. Get real.

No need to let the ner do wells fog your brain.

[Liam]

I honestly don't know how people CAN'T hear the dvd vocal on things like Ask The Lonely. It baffels me. I know that dvd backward and forward, in turn, I know the boots backward and forward. Sad shit.
Again...I AM waiting for an official word.
Laters,

Perfectionists often perform perfectly. It's really that simple. If JRNY were out to trick you, the 2001 DVD is far from the only thing they have to fall back on. Get real.

No need to let the ner do wells fog your brain.

Perfectionists are all well and good and everything, but did you LISTEN to Ask The Lonely? "Your heart..your prized possessiooon". The high note at the end of possession is the dead give away. That's Casino Rama & Greek that sync up with the DVD.

[Moon Beam]

I have no clue how happy Dean'o will be if
all this proves on the cheating side.
But I for one will be satisfied if they fess up
with their fans.
Say what you want about Dean'o but he stood
up against many and still does for what he believes
in, that in my books is the making of a person
of quality.

[Clasicrockldy]

I have no clue how happy Dean'o will be if
all this proves on the cheating side.
But I for one will be satisfied if they fess up
with their fans.
Say what you want about Dean'o but he stood
up against many and still does for what he believes
in, that in my books is the making of a person
of quality.

I agree with that, Moonbeam !

[Liam]

I have no clue how happy Dean'o will be if
all this proves on the cheating side.
But I for one will be satisfied if they fess up
with their fans.
Say what you want about Dean'o but he stood
up against many and still does for what he believes
in, that in my books is the making of a person
of quality.

I agree with that, Moonbeam !

Same here. That and I FIRMLY believe he's got something here.

[BUTTWHOLE]

Say I believe in taxing the poor and elderly for being that way? I'm sure I would face plenty of opposition. Just because I stick to my guns... does not mean im not a creep.. It would not make me a quality person.