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From zwire.com
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:42 pmby Phreedom
Too long to copy paste the entire article, here's the relevant part:
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD= ... =461&rfi=9
Journey, on the other hand, couldn't be in worse shape. The bottom line is fans are still clamoring for a reunion with erstwhile vocalist Steve Perry while sound-alike and curly-haired look-alike Steve Augeri is doing his best as a karaoke replacement. And according to recent rumors, even that aspect may not be going so well.
Reports are that Augeri hasn't exactly been singing live. It's not lip-syncing mind you, but the charge is that he has had some assistance in reaching the high notes his predecessor made so famous in the '80s on monster hits like "Faithfully" and "Open Arms."
Rock Music Menu isn't a huge fan of Journey to begin with; the music the band produced is dated, as is its popularity. You don't see anyone singing "Don't Stop Believin'" unless it's done ironically, or they have a mullet and drive an IROC.
Whether Augeri is innocent or guilty is not the point; if you are going to trot out a nostalgia-fest in front of paying customers, at least do right by them - bring in the original singer if he is ready and willing.
Man that's brutal
Re: From zwire.com
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:46 pmby lshphrd
Phreedom wrote:Too long to copy paste the entire article, here's the relevant part:
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD= ... =461&rfi=9Journey, on the other hand, couldn't be in worse shape. The bottom line is fans are still clamoring for a reunion with erstwhile vocalist Steve Perry while sound-alike and curly-haired look-alike Steve Augeri is doing his best as a karaoke replacement. And according to recent rumors, even that aspect may not be going so well.
Reports are that Augeri hasn't exactly been singing live. It's not lip-syncing mind you, but the charge is that he has had some assistance in reaching the high notes his predecessor made so famous in the '80s on monster hits like "Faithfully" and "Open Arms."
Rock Music Menu isn't a huge fan of Journey to begin with; the music the band produced is dated, as is its popularity. You don't see anyone singing "Don't Stop Believin'" unless it's done ironically, or they have a mullet and drive an IROC.
Whether Augeri is innocent or guilty is not the point; if you are going to trot out a nostalgia-fest in front of paying customers, at least do right by them - bring in the original singer if he is ready and willing.
I for one would not wish Perry back even on a Good day.
nor do see Journey as a nostagia act. I pay money to see them to hear
not only some of the old songs. I want to hear the new songs too,.
what does he have to do to be accepted, walk on water,
or cut his wrist and write in blood that he is singing.
this is sooo tiring now,
Re: From zwire.com
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:47 pmby Rockindeano
lshphrd wrote:what does he have to do to be accepted, walk on water,
or cut his wrist and write in blood that he is singing.
this is sooo tiring now,
No, just sing. And do it hopefully decent. He hasn't proven yet he can sing well live. Not once in 8 years.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:50 pmby lshphrd
He certainly has at the multiple shows that I have seen him at and he has done it quite well.
The guy needs to prove nothing to me because in the past 8 years he
has sang his soul and heart out and done so
quite well. Not to mention that he is a decent person.
there should be more people inthis world with his talent and integity
Re: From zwire.com
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:52 pmby LAWoman
Rockn'deano wrote:lshphrd wrote:what does he have to do to be accepted, walk on water,
or cut his wrist and write in blood that he is singing.
this is sooo tiring now,
No, just sing. And do it hopefully decent. He hasn't proven yet he can sing well live. Not once in 8 years.
So now in your world he has never sung well live once? You keep expanding the time.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:53 pmby lshphrd
I have a tape of the 98 show from phoenix and the sound is terrrible on
the tape. even on that I can hear his talent and
became a fan of his voice.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:54 pmby Saint John
He might want to be a part of a good album. One that has enough chemistry and something the fans like. The album sales for Augeri are the fans way of saying, "This new music sucks." He's a karaoke singer, they found at The Gap and before that he was part of an obscure band that enjoyed minimal success. He has not and will not be accepted. Especially now that he can no longer provide the band with his karaoke skills. He's completely useless other than a prop to reap profits from this fraudulent tour.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:57 pmby whocares
People need to stop with this "integrity" B.S.
There's NO integrity in keeping mum on what could make or break a band.
IF the rumors are true, then Integrity shall never be spoken again about this line-up of the band.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:59 pmby lshphrd
I have heard from alot of people that they like the new music. we were talking to Deen after one of the shows last fall and
we told him how mush we enjoyed the arrival cd and which songs we liked.
I think the problem is a lack of label support or any kind of promotion.
most people don;t even know they have a cd out.
personally I bought a cd by another artist the same day the generations cd came out and except 3 songs I think it sucks.
I have seen Journey with Steve Augeri many times and I
don;t see him as a karaoke act. The tall stories cd rocks and I
think it is worth a listen.
Re: From zwire.com
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:01 pmby Rockindeano
LAWoman wrote:Rockn'deano wrote:lshphrd wrote:what does he have to do to be accepted, walk on water,
or cut his wrist and write in blood that he is singing.
this is sooo tiring now,
No, just sing. And do it hopefully decent. He hasn't proven yet he can sing well live. Not once in 8 years.
So now in your world he has never sung well live once? You keep expanding the time.
I have yet to hear him sing great once.
And if anyone hear says Vegas 2001 dvd, we will open a can of worms NO ONE will want opened.
Re: From zwire.com
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:03 pmby LAWoman
Rockn'deano wrote:LAWoman wrote:Rockn'deano wrote:lshphrd wrote:what does he have to do to be accepted, walk on water,
or cut his wrist and write in blood that he is singing.
this is sooo tiring now,
No, just sing. And do it hopefully decent. He hasn't proven yet he can sing well live. Not once in 8 years.
So now in your world he has never sung well live once? You keep expanding the time.
I have yet to hear him sing great once.
And if anyone hear says Vegas 2001 dvd, we will open a can of worms NO ONE will want opened.
That's truly your loss then. I've heard him sing well quite a bit more than once.
Re: From zwire.com
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:03 pmby Saint John
Rockn'deano wrote:LAWoman wrote:Rockn'deano wrote:lshphrd wrote:what does he have to do to be accepted, walk on water,
or cut his wrist and write in blood that he is singing.
this is sooo tiring now,
No, just sing. And do it hopefully decent. He hasn't proven yet he can sing well live. Not once in 8 years.
So now in your world he has never sung well live once? You keep expanding the time.
I have yet to hear him sing great once.
And if anyone hear says Vegas 2001 dvd, we will open a can of worms NO ONE will want opened.
How did the radio interview go Deano?
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:04 pmby whocares
I happen to think they tour WAY too much!
Back in the day, you wouldn't see them every year. I salivated when I heard a new "record" on the radio. I had something to look forward to. Now I can see them every summer if I choose to. I have more important things to do with my money than spend it on people who don't put out new music before every tour. If I want to see a greatest hits tour, then I go once, and that's it.
The "faithful" sometimes are too faithful. And yes, I USED to be one. There's more important things to life than being proud of spending thousands of dollars on ONE band. Fawning over the members of a band is ridiculous, that band member isn't going to remember you in 5 minutes.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:05 pmby Rockindeano
LAWoman wrote: I've heard him sing well quite a bit more than once.
Yeah Barb, but was it live?
Las Vegas 2001 DVD....
Guess what? That is NOT live.
Here we go.
Posted:
Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:08 pmby whocares
ANYONE who thinks a CD or DVD of a concert is straight away a recording of the actual event is nuts. Unless a person recorded it themselves, you have no comparison to actual live performances.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:08 pmby lshphrd
I have a boot of the show from 2000 from the following nite.
doesn;t sound the same to me.
in fact, Steve mixes up the verses on ask the lonely.
kind of hard to fix that.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:09 pmby Saint John
whocares wrote:I happen to think they tour WAY too much!
Back in the day, you wouldn't see them every year. I salivated when I heard a new "record" on the radio. I had something to look forward to. Now I can see them every summer if I choose to. I have more important things to do with my money than spend it on people who don't put out new music before every tour. If I want to see a greatest hits tour, then I go once, and that's it.
The "faithful" sometimes are too faithful. And yes, I USED to be one. There's more important things to life than being proud of spending thousands of dollars on ONE band. Fawning over the members of a band is ridiculous, that band member isn't going to remember you in 5 minutes.
I couldn't agree more...but when you can't create music people want to hear the only way to make money is to tour. This tells me that mangement realizes the lineup isn't studio talented enough to take a chance on so they milk their faithful fans every summer. Def Leppard has been advertising like crazy....everywhere. Journey will reap the rewards of this promotion and they really don't deserve too. The tour will do very well, but it won't mask the fact that this band is in sad, sad shape.
Re: From zwire.com
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:10 pmby LAWoman
Rockn'deano wrote:LAWoman wrote: I've heard him sing well quite a bit more than once.
Yeah Barb, but was it live?
Las Vegas 2001 DVD....
Guess what? That is NOT live.
Here we go.
Yes, I've heard him sing great live. I wasn't at the taping of the 2001 DVD so, no, not that show.
I guess your next statement is that you somehow have a recording of every show they ever did and you have absolute proof that Steve Augeri has never sung a live note in his life. I guess he also isn't even singing in the studio. No, he's mute and can't even talk. Neal throws his voice and Steve is just the puppet. That's where you're going to end up if you keep expanding your ridiculous allegations.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:15 pmby whocares
Saint John wrote:
I couldn't agree more...but when you can't create music people want to hear the only way to make money is to tour. This tells me that mangement realizes the lineup isn't studio talented enough to take a chance on so they milk their faithful fans every summer. Def Leppard has been advertising like crazy....everywhere. Journey will reap the rewards of this promotion and they really don't deserve too. The tour will do very well, but it won't mask the fact that this band is in sad, sad shape.
It's a fact and should be well known that bands don't make (much) money on the actual CD, but that their money comes from touring. But excessive touring burns out even hardcore fans.
I can't count the number of times people told me to shut up about Journey. Now I just want the band to go away like they should have a while ago, so they could have been remembered as something greater than what they will be thought of now.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:15 pmby lshphrd
LAWoman wrote:Rockn'deano wrote:LAWoman wrote: I've heard him sing well quite a bit more than once.
Yeah Barb, but was it live?
Las Vegas 2001 DVD....
Guess what? That is NOT live.
Here we go.
Yes, I've heard him sing great live. I wasn't at the taping of the 2001 DVD so, no, not that show.
I guess your next statement is that you somehow have a recording of every show they ever did and you have absolute proof that Steve Augeri has never sung a live note in his life. I guess he also isn't even singing in the studio. No, he's mute and can't even talk. Neal throws his voice and Steve is just the puppet. That's where you're going to end up if you keep expanding your ridiculous allegations.
I couldn;t agree more.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:22 pmby zino
I have a few Boots from 2001 that i'm gonna listen too again West Aplm Beach, Atlanta and Bakersfield. Ialso have a dvd of Boca Raton 2004. These are straight up boots and Im postive he's singing here I was 2nd row for West Palm Beach.
Zino
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:24 pmby Rockindeano
zino wrote:I have a few Boots from 2001 that i'm gonna listen too again West Aplm Beach, Atlanta and Bakersfield. Ialso have a dvd of Boca Raton 2004. These are straight up boots and Im postive he's singing here I was 2nd row for West Palm Beach.
Zino
Well, don't you think he really should sing? I mean, it is his job.
Yeah he is singing on those. I am not comparing those.
Again.
Another accusation.
The Live DVD 2001 Las Vegas, is NOT even a Live DVD! It was recorded in studio.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:25 pmby LAWoman
zino wrote:I have a few Boots from 2001 that i'm gonna listen too again West Aplm Beach, Atlanta and Bakersfield. Ialso have a dvd of Boca Raton 2004. These are straight up boots and Im postive he's singing here I was 2nd row for West Palm Beach.
Zino
But don't you know the theory? SA never sings live--he hasn't in years and no matter how close you were, you can't tell. Only Dean can tell. Somehow the engineers and SA fool all of us. Or maybe they are hypnotizing us--I'm sure that's it.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:28 pmby LAWoman
Rockn'deano wrote:zino wrote:I have a few Boots from 2001 that i'm gonna listen too again West Aplm Beach, Atlanta and Bakersfield. Ialso have a dvd of Boca Raton 2004. These are straight up boots and Im postive he's singing here I was 2nd row for West Palm Beach.
Zino
Well, don't you think he really should sing? I mean, it is his job.
Yeah he is singing on those. I am not comparing those.
Again.
Another accusation.
The Live DVD 2001 Las Vegas, is NOT even a Live DVD! It was recorded in studio.
Oh, sorry--see you keep changing the allegations. So now Steve has actually sung live a few times? So he was singing live in 2001, just not in Vegas I guess--is that it? I thought it was 4 years and then 8 years that he hasn't been singing live. What's your latest theory?
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:33 pmby Mrs H
Deano is taking on water quickly, may not get to the end of the month.....
Nothing he says anymore makes sense. Time to check yourself in, buddy. Do it for your loved ones. Even stalkers do BAD things to get a bands' attention.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:38 pmby Rockindeano
I said he sang live in the 2001 Vegas show...they released a fraudelent dvd....it is not live. They just didn't fix it, they went in a recorded it from studio.....how sad.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:39 pmby LAWoman
Mrs H wrote:Deano is taking on water quickly, may not get to the end of the month.....
Nothing he says anymore makes sense. Time to check yourself in, buddy. Do it for your loved ones. Even stalkers do BAD things to get a bands' attention.
Yeah, there's no ability to discuss this tonight because Dean can't keep the allegations consistent within the same thread. Too bad. I'm sure he'll will have fresh ones tomorrow anyway.
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:41 pmby Rockindeano
LAWoman wrote:Mrs H wrote:Deano is taking on water quickly, may not get to the end of the month.....
Nothing he says anymore makes sense. Time to check yourself in, buddy. Do it for your loved ones. Even stalkers do BAD things to get a bands' attention.
Yeah, there's no ability to discuss this tonight because Dean can't keep the allegations consistent within the same thread. Too bad. I'm sure he'll will have fresh ones tomorrow anyway.
Thanks for the kind words Barb.
I know whats right and whats not. zhey, if you are so convinced I am wrong, why the need to come in daily and dispute it?
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:42 pmby zino
Mrs H & La Women
I am with you 100% , the story keeos changing too fit the need. My point was that I have seen SA perfrom as we all have and in my opion he is singing, If I could copy my review from Hollowood Fla last year I said I didnt think he sounded the best I have heard him. The best I heard him was West Palm 2001, but I was also the closest then too !!!!, Thanks for your support ladies !!
. Do you wanna copy of anything I have ?
( Sorry if this is wrong to ask in this board )
Zino
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Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:42 pmby whocares
This whole subject is just going into infinity. round and round and round and round... All the obvious Journey cliche sayings.
People hate Deano, they shoot their mouths off, and he comes back and give more crap. If you people don't like what Deano is saying, then stop egging him on.
Then again, this is the faceless internet, where people LOVE controversy.
Have at 'em Deano. If you are taking on water, then they need to park their boats and fiching tackle, and stop trying to catch you out tehre in the deep deep sea.