Please stop.

[RossValoryRocks]

Can we PLEASE stop with the posting of Private and Personal information? Like, ADDRESSES? That has no business being on here. PERIOD.

That is inviting tragedy to happen.

Whatever a person's view there is no reason to post information like that.

I would like to believe we all can engage in civil discourse and this is VERY outside of that. Off the SCALE WRONG!

There are enough crazy people in the world that it could be risking the lives of people who have no dog in this fight, like CHILDREN.

I asked people to stop with the personal shit and focus on the facts and opinions. But now things have gone to far. If you all want to slam each other then please do so, but leave out the things that could cause physical harm to an innocent!

For God's sake, what if some nut shows up at a house and hurts a child?

Please people THINK before you post things like this.

[Rockindeano]

Gee, you wouldn't be talking about a certain individual would you? Only one has done this, and that is Craig Pitman.

[augeri1]

For God's sake, what if some nut shows up at a house and hurts a child?

For crying out loud Stu, the nut lives IN the house, THAT'S where your concern should be. So is congratulations in order? You been elevated to moderator now?

[conversationpc]

For crying out loud Stu, the nut lives IN the house, THAT'S where your concern should be. So is congratulations in order? You been elevated to moderator now?

Whoah there! Stu's absolutely correct. There is NO excuse for posting someone's personal information on here without their permission.

[RossValoryRocks]

For God's sake, what if some nut shows up at a house and hurts a child?

For crying out loud Stu, the nut lives IN the house, THAT'S where your concern should be. So is congratulations in order? You been elevated to moderator now?

No I am no Mod, just asking for people to refrain from posting info like that. It is WAY out of bounds because innocents could be hurt, REGARDLESS of who lives in the house.

If there is concern for the children then call CPS, but leave the address off the boards, and I asked nicely.

It's NOT right, in any way, morally to do that especially with tensions as high as they are.

I know you are wise enough to see that Penny.

[augeri1]

No I am no Mod

ok, just checking! You're right I'm wise enough to see a lot of things Stu

[StyxCollector]

[quote="augeri1]For crying out loud Stu, the nut lives IN the house[/quote]

You may disagree with Deano, and maybe his tactics, but I don't think he's nuts. I've seen more slander thrown at him on this board lately and it's ridiculous. People making personal attacks on him is uncalled for.

Yes, he has alleged Journey has cheated live vocally. But I'm sorry, what he has done does not call for the abuse he's gotten personally. Attack him on the Journey thing, disagree with him - I would say pretty fair game. But to call his family and personal safety into it, no way.

[augeri1]

For crying out loud Stu, the nut lives IN the house

You may disagree with Deano, and maybe his tactics, but I don't think he's nuts. I've seen more slander thrown at him on this board lately and it's ridiculous. People making personal attacks on him is uncalled for.

Yes, he has alleged Journey has cheated live vocally. But I'm sorry, what he has done does not call for the abuse he's gotten personally. Attack him on the Journey thing, disagree with him - I would say pretty fair game. But to call his family and personal safety into it, no way.

You need to go back and read it again. No one threatened Dean till he first threatened himself. What Andrew and his agendas have deleted I can't help. Deano has been writing checks his big fat mouth can't cash. Look it up before you come in here with that crap.

[Rockindeano]

Some are getting desperate

[StyxCollector]

You need to go back and read it again. No one threatened Dean till he first threatened himself. What Andrew and his agendas have deleted I can't help. Deano has been writing checks his big fat mouth can't cash. Look it up before you come in here with that crap.

Why do you care so much about Deano? Seriously ... I want to know.

Journey is just a band. Steve Augeri is just a man singing in that band. People are acting like the world is going to end if this is the truth. I can tell you for sure the world will still go on no matter what the outcome is. I'm sure Steve is a nice guy - he seems it. With your name, clearly you are passionate about the man. That's cool. No problems there. He's done some good work with the band.

If you dislike Deano and his agenda, your best tactic is to ignore him IMHO.

[NealIsGod]

So is congratulations in order? You been elevated to moderator now?

No, he's a fucking human being. Unlike a lot of the trash that has poisoned this board lately.

[Andrew]

Can we PLEASE stop with the posting of Private and Personal information? Like, ADDRESSES? That has no business being on here. PERIOD.

COULD NOT AGREE MORE.

I have been deleting what I see and if anything else should be posted - BY ANYONE - please let me know and it will be deleted.

In addition to that - anyone that does post personal info and especially home address details WILL INSTANTLY BE BANNED and NOT allowed back in again.

[Andrew]

What Andrew and his agendas have deleted I can't help.

WTF does this mean? Gota problem, then PM me.

[augeri1]

What Andrew and his agendas have deleted I can't help.

WTF does this mean? Gota problem, then PM me.

Oh I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I do recall you specifically saying NOT to pm you, you know, you consider it whining...therefore leaving others to defend for themselves and the band and their friends...which has resulted in an uncontrolable board..."just don't kill each other" this could've all been avoided had you done your job to begin with, Andrew.

[Rockindeano]

It should go without saying, that someone SHOULD NEVER EVER POST A PERSONAL ADDRESS. I have definetely had my moments, but I have never went that far. I have 13, NIG's, Jeremey's, TNC's and others addresses...Think I would ever post those if they got me pissed off? No. That's the unwritten rule.

Nice try at spinning.

[wildone]

It should go without saying, that someone SHOULD NEVER EVER POST A PERSONAL ADDRESS. I have definetely had my moments, but I have never went that far. I have 13, NIG's, Jeremey's, TNC's and others addresses...Think I would ever post those if they got me pissed off? No. That's the unwritten rule.

Nice try at spinning.

what up deano!!!!!!

[augeri1]

Nice try at spinning.

I don't spin, don't have to spin, your ass is spinning..out of control........lets keep this post stickied just for you so you can play the sympathetic card...and quit going back on your word, you promised to not respond to anything I post...for you are above me...do me a favor and stick to what you say! I was talking to Andrew, not you.

xoxo;
Trash

[Mrs H]

I agree, there shouldn't be posting of any private information.

But, I also know, and have been privy to conversations whereby the danger really lies in only one person.

One only needs to remember the person that shot Ronald Reagan to get the attention of an actress he was obsessed with to know that this stuff happens for real, in real life.

I am very familiar with the FBI's profiling on stalkers, they do just as much BAD stuff to get someone's attention as GOOD.

Chew on that for awhile.

[Rockindeano]

So I am the problem? I see, so now I am not only a sex offender, child rapist, bi polar, I am also now a stalker.

So you aren't winning the debate, so resort to personal attacks. Nice.

[ohsherrie]

On this subject of there being a danger of Dean posting personal info, I can testify. There's probably nobody on this board that he's been more pissed at than me. He has my address and picture, but as crazy mad as he's been he's never posted either.

[Rockindeano]

On this subject of there being a danger of Dean posting personal info, I can testify. There's probably nobody on this board that he's been more pissed at than me. He has my address and picture, but as crazy mad as he's been he's never posted either.

You're right Sherrie. Even I don't pukll that stuff.

The person who has gone mad is Craig Pitman of Georgia. He has posted my address twice, called Calif. Dept of corrections and inquired about me, and so far has in mind to jail not only me, but Svante from Sweden too. Be careful, Craig might call the VA Dept of corrections and have your name ran through the states' computers....!!

[ohsherrie]

On this subject of there being a danger of Dean posting personal info, I can testify. There's probably nobody on this board that he's been more pissed at than me. He has my address and picture, but as crazy mad as he's been he's never posted either.

You're right Sherrie. Even I don't pukll that stuff.

The person who has gone mad is Craig Pitman of Georgia. He has posted my address twice, called Calif. Dept of corrections and inquired about me, and so far has in mind to jail not only me, but Svante from Sweden too. Be careful, Craig might call the VA Dept of corrections and have your name ran through the states' computers....!!

Something's seriously wrong with that guy. I never thought I'd see anyone that could get nastier than you.

[LAWoman]

I think everyone should lay off the name-calling. But I will also add that anyone who goes public (like on a radio station) and puts their name out in public should think about the ramifications before they do it.

Deen, you are choosing the public arena. There are consequences and you can't undo it once it's done. Whatever you have done that is public record is available. With the internet it is very hard to keep your info private even when you aren't going public. For example, many Courts (criminal, family, civil, etc.) are online with public access for free. Know what you are getting into.

[Rockindeano]

Barb, I agree with you. I DO know what I am getting into, and I DO know it will get heavier. But to maliciously throw someones HOME address out there? Come on? You're an attorney. You know that's BS.

Yeah, I am a big boy, I can deal with it.

But for to try to spin it as being ok to do so....Hmmm. Perhaps the courtroom has fogged your morality a bit.

[LAWoman]

Barb, I agree with you. I DO know what I am getting into, and I DO know it will get heavier. But to maliciously throw someones HOME address out there? Come on? You're an attorney. You know that's BS.

Yeah, I am a big boy, I can deal with it.

But for to try to spin it as being ok to do so....Hmmm. Perhaps the courtroom has fogged your morality a bit.

You're missing my point. I didn't say anything was right or wrong. I'm saying it's a reality. Be ready. I wasn't sure you were aware how readily available info is with just a name to go on. Anyone can easily find out your address and more. You might try looking around yourself at what's available. It has nothing to do with me being an attorney except that I am aware how readily availble personal info is. I'm sure Journey has gotten used to all their personal & family business being public. But I'm not sure you have thought about it. That was my point.

[Andrew]

Oh I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I do recall you specifically saying NOT to pm you, you know, you consider it whining...

Ok, anyone can PM me at any time....but there was a level of whining going on - PMs aout trival shit and that's what I don't have time for.

[HigherPlace2001]

So Penny basically whatever Andrew deems "whining" is what he will ignore. And that boils down to anything anyone supporting the current lineup has to say. Andrew the dictator believes in freedom of speech but only if you bash Journey. Nice work Andrew.

[Lula]

So Penny basically whatever Andrew deems "whining" is what he will ignore. And that boils down to anything anyone supporting the current lineup has to say. Andrew the dictator believes in freedom of speech but only if you bash Journey. Nice work Andrew.

Oh come on....
BT is often called "Journey's house" and insults are not tolerated there. This may not be Andrew's house, but it is his site and to say what you have is ridiculous. Again I remind people of the great interviews Andrew has given us with the (current) men of Journey. I am so tired of people coming here and slamming Andrew. If you don't like the way things are run- get out!

[whocares]

So Penny basically whatever Andrew deems "whining" is what he will ignore. And that boils down to anything anyone supporting the current lineup has to say. Andrew the dictator believes in freedom of speech but only if you bash Journey. Nice work Andrew.

what a load of shit.

Andrew deals with things from what I see, as best as he can. At least you can say words like "butt" here, without fear fo retrabution of some kind. If you don't LOVE Journey,at the other place, then you are not a "TRUE FAN". Even people who post over there regularly state that "THEIR" guys can do no wrong, no matter what. ANd if that makes them blind and hated by other people then they don't care what people think. That is almost a direct quote of what I JUST read there.

I dare say you won't see Andrew addressing Steve A. as Stevie Awsome. The minute he does, you can bet I won't be reading his site anymore, not even for the train wrecks that happen here.

When Journey speaks out IF THEY DO, then we'll sort through things. By all accounts though, not even some of the "TRUE" fans are happy with the 2 1/2 day old tour.

[augeri1]

I dare say you won't see Andrew addressing Steve A. as Stevie Awsome. The minute he does, you can bet I won't be reading his site anymore, not even for the train wrecks that happen here.

I dare say you won't be seeing Andrew addressing Steve A. at all in the future...great interviews in the past are just that, in the past.

BTW..welcome back Tammy!