The New Catalogue Remasters:

by **Red13JoePa** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:56 am

Per 'Drew's update ESC4P3 and Departure will have added songs which is a great idea. Especially in the case of Departure where they'll add 2 that probably could and should've been there in the first place, Little Girl and Natural Thing.
The masterpiece that is Escape, in addition to some live cuts is going to have La Raza Del Sol....a great add to the original 10.

by **StyxCollector** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:39 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Especially in the case of Departure where they'll add 2 that probably could and should've been there in the first place, Little Girl and Natural Thing.

Natural Thing yes. Little Girl, no. They should remaster Dream After Dream properly. It's only seen CD release in Japan to date.

IMHO these are nothing special, since all the bonus cuts are on CD already.

I want the first three albums (the non-Perry ones) remastered. That's what I want.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:13 am

Yeah, I was hoping that they would remaster the first three albums!

I also wish that they would have tacked on the unreleased song "Let It Rock You" on to one of the CD's, that is a great song with great guitar from Neal Schon!

A few weeks ago Andrew made some mention of some unrleased Journey songs from the pre-Steve Perry era, it was something like "The Light Brigade" or something like that. Does anyone have any information on that?

by **Red13JoePa** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:15 am

Look who's headed the project up and understand why there are no Journey, Look Into The Future and Next, as well as When You Love A Woman, but no All The Way (#25) added to GH.

Disagree about Little Girl as well, it's a natural for Departure and technology's allowing for that oversight to be corrected.

by **StyxCollector** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:00 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:A few weeks ago Andrew made some mention of some unrleased Journey songs from the pre-Steve Perry era, it was something like "The Light Brigade" or something like that. Does anyone have any information on that?

Sounds like the early stuff ... was released as a boot in Japan a few years ago. Quite good, actually, so if you like the pre-Perry stuff, you'll like this.

by **StyxCollector** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:02 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:Look who's headed the project up and understand why there are no Journey, Look Into The Future and Next, as well as When You Love A Woman, but no All The Way (#25) added to GH.

Disagree about Little Girl as well, it's a natural for Departure and technology's allowing for that oversight to be corrected.

At this point, there's no excuse to do all but a select few of the old albums. Maybe the Japanese will do them this time out, but they haven't up to this point; they've taken the same masters for the 1st three + Dream After Dream every time they've re-pressed CDs.

Little Girl is a good song, but it was not made for Departure. It was part of the Dream After Dream soundtrack (which was released here, just never on CD). Release it on its proper release.

by **Rockindeano** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:10 pm

You are arguing for "All the Way" to make a GH CD? Are you fucking serious?

by AR » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:13 pm

You are arguing for "All the Way" to make a GH CD? Are you fucking serious?

I never liked "All the Way" as much as I liked that album. Could care less if any of that material makes any comp disc. If you like the songs go buy the CD.

However I really loved these tracks:

Higher Place
Signs of Life
With Your Love
To Be Alive Again
Lifetime of Dreams

Wish "Remember Me" would have been added to it.

Just saying...... :wink:

by **StyxCollector** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:17 pm

arrivalrules wrote:
You are arguing for "All the Way" to make a GH CD? Are you fucking serious?

I never liked "All the Way" as much as I liked that album. Could care less if any of that material makes any comp disc. If you like the songs go buy the CD.

However I really loved these tracks:

Higher Place
Signs of Life
With Your Love
To Be Alive Again
Lifetime of Dreams

Wish "Remember Me" would have been added to it.

Just saying......

Well, as long as a certain Mr. Perry is manning the helm, you won't see Steve Augeri tracks on GH.

by **Rockindeano** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:21 pm

Those are all good songs, but none were "hits." Sorry 13, All the Way was NOT a hit....so stop typing...

by AR » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:35 pm

Those are all good songs, but none were "hits."

Agreed, but they could have been with promotion and given a chance.

by AR » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:37 pm

Agreed, but they could have been with promotion and given a chance.

Then again, thinking about it. Escape would have died a quick death in the current musical climate come to think about it. :cry:

by **Rockindeano** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:41 pm

Absolutely. HP and To Be Alive Again were sure fire hits. Where the Hell was Mgt? O forget it.

Remember Me is a good tune as well.

Hell, Better Life, FITH and TPIYH are as good as anything on radio.

by **Saint John** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:00 pm

Kiss Me Softly actually sounded pretty amazing live. HP has a nice chorus and good ending, but the rest is boring.

by **Red13JoePa** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:44 pm

#25 IS #25, Dean. I think it's just ok myself as a song, but it charted higher than some of the songs on GH.

by **Dano** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:52 am

Agreed. "All The Way" was a Top 40 Hit, so it would've been nice to have it included, but you know that there was no way that it would happen with who headed up the project...

Having said that, it is also true that ATW was a higher charting song than some of the other tracks on Greatest Hits. "Higher Place" was released as a single, or at least to rock radio. I have the promo that was sent to radio, but as we all know Sony really dropped the ball on the album as a whole, no doubt in part to the disappointing breakup of the Escape/Frontiers lineup.

I am looking forward to the remasters, even though this is (at the very least) the third time I've purchased many of these on CD. However, the sound was so phenomenal on the Escape Tour DVD/CD that I'm betting Perry and Kalodner did some great work on the latest re-releases.

by **Red13JoePa** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:35 am

Yep, label/mgmt shit the bed on HP. Unbelievable song.

This I think is the first time Little Girl is getting the remaster treatment so it's good for the longtime preservation of that track in particular, as well as Natural Thing and La Raza Del Sol. Unless I'm wrong, this is the 1st remaster for all these. And if they don't do it, 50-100 years from now songs like that could be lost.

by **Rockindeano** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:39 am

Allthe Way was NOT a hit. Saying it was #25 on the A/C is a stretch.

Song sucks.

by **conversationpc** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:40 am

Rockn'deano wrote:Allthe Way was NOT a hit. Saying it was #25 on the A/C is a stretch.

Song sucks.

Agreed. If it weren't for "All the Things", it would be easily the worst song on that album.

by **Red13JoePa** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:35 pm

I'm not offering my opinion on the song, rather saying #25 is #25.

by **A Fire Inside** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:33 am

conversationpc wrote:Agreed. If it weren't for "All the Things", it would be easily the worst song on that album.

Oh, wrong. So wrong. All The Things is one of the more decent tracks on there... at least it pretends it has some nuts.

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:34 am

Agreed. All The Things is very good and heavy as hell.

by **conversationpc** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:36 am

A Fire Inside wrote:Oh, wrong. So wrong. All The Things is one of the more decent tracks on there... at least it pretends it has some nuts.

I couldn't disagree more. The track kinda lumbers along, which gives it kind of an uncomfortable feel, in my opinion. There's no nuts to it. It's all bolts instead.

by **Marabelle** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:04 am

well he's kind of giving a little to everyone; glad he put in WYLAW. it's not the best song but it's sure a nice one.

by **Abitaman** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:15 am

Rockn'deano wrote:Those are all good songs, but none were "hits." Sorry 13, All the Way was NOT a hit....so stop typing...

And your an idiot, so quit proving it-ERIC

by **whocares** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:22 am

and wylaw was their only grammy nominated song...

by **PROPERRY** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:26 am

I'm glad that Perry & JK added "Little girl" & WYLAW to the remastered CD's... those are GREAT songs!!

Lori

by **WalrusOct9** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:35 am

I'll be buying them for the improved sound...I had mp3's burned to a disc of all the old albums that I got in the Napster days. The sound quality on the original CD's was pretty bad so I never could convince myself to pay money for them, but now that they're actually putting out some 21st-century quality remasters (hopefully) it's time for me to finally grab them.

It's too bad they didn't go the route of those MCA 2-CD "deluxe editions". There's probably about 50 classic albums released by them, and while occasionally the bonus material borders on unnecessary, it's great for the hardcore fans, and it would've been cool to hear some live stuff from the Infinity or Evolution tours. Oh well. A couple of bonus tracks is better than nothing I guess.

by **junky** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:07 am

A little OT

I was at Jones Beach early to watch soundcheck, and I met this guy(can't remember his name) who said that he met John Kalodner at the Camden show. Don't know if this guy was full of it, but he said JK told him that his next project with SP was a 1983 DVD.

I really hope this is true.

by **WalrusOct9** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:19 am

oh man, that'd be awesome. The Houston DVD was cool, but I'd had it on a bootleg for awhile so it was just a quality upgrade, but nothing I hadn't seen. I've never seen anything from '83 other than a Japanese show in poor quality YouTube streaming...man i'd be all over that.

MR

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