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Naw, they aren't lipping, no way. However, let's look at some things that make you go hmm.

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Same standard setlist, regarding lead singer...same every show.

No TV appearances.

No televised concerts (Chile)

Deen singing more and more of the show

No Warfield Show. A 2.5 hour show, and they didn't have enough usable material. So out of 170 minutes, they couldn't squeeze out 80?

No Dallas DVD. No way that ever sees a shelf now..No Way

Canceled Rockline

Giant Microphone for the LEAD singer only

No Comment on This- And don't say they don't have to. Neal has always jumped on people when he thought there was BS going on. Ask the VH1 Board, and the perry fans he jumped all over.

Letting the crowd sing most of the song after there was "glitch" to put it mildly.

Augeri finishing out the last 40 seconds of a song over in Europe, with his back to the audience.


There are more. Either side want to add anything?

I'd like to add that the concert goers thus far have remarked on SA's stage behavior being very strange in that he constantly goes to the back of the stage and is on and off of it more like a backup singer. He doesn't interact with the fans while on stage either the way most frontmen do. Combine that with the drummer doing 4 songs and it isn't what people are used to seeing from rock bands that make it feel strange.

Perhaps they are trying to ease the drummer into the lead vocal position? They could be trying to get the audience accustomed to not having someone in the front of the stage at all????

KittyKat wrote:I'd like to add that the concert goers thus far have remarked on SA's stage behavior being very strange in that he constantly goes to the back of the stage and is on and off of it more like a backup singer. He doesn't interact with the fans while on stage either the way most frontmen do. Combine that with the drummer doing 4 songs and it isn't what people are used to seeing from rock bands that make it feel strange.

I would certainly add Svante Pettersson's testimony.He posted a professional statement that weighs so much in this case;plus it is coming from someone who has no reason to lie.
Then add Jeremey's findings.

Yes Shania you could be right about that but I brought it up because it is suspicious as in unusual but if your reasoning is correct then we must question why they are having the drummer take over, hmm? This is a new routine for them just like having the drummer sing 4 songs when they have a singer, hmm.

On the covers album DL did they all sing from one to two songs apiece, Vivian Campbell and Phil Collen have solo albums where they are lead vocals but in concert they do nothing but backing vocals. Viv and phil did accoustic sets and sang on Rockline so some of their fans wanted to know if they'd be doing any lead vocals for this tour. They said no because then they'd have to let Joe play guitar and we don't want that.

nolippin wrote:Perhaps they are trying to ease the drummer into the lead vocal position? They could be trying to get the audience accustomed to not having someone in the front of the stage at all????

Hmmmmmm...

No offense to anyone and this has nuttin to do with Deano's allegations, but many of us have said since we first heard Castronovo sing that he should be the singer if he can handle it. His voice is beautiful beyond belief...I mean, even the Perryheads would find it hard not to come to the show...

Anyone have a live song by Castronovo that I can have a listen to?

knox wrote:Anyone have a live song by Castronovo that I can have a listen to?

I'm sure there's something floating around out there if you search for it.

Deen's great. At last year's show, I remember getting shivers down my spine when he sang "Patiently".

I keep hearing about how awesome he is. I will do some searches.

You want Deen Live?

Here you go...Tokyo 2004, Mother Father..

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 62164D7C72

Rockn'deano wrote:You want Deen Live?

Here you go...Tokyo 2004, Mother Father..

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 62164D7C72

Thanks a bunch...Enjoying it as we speak.

Dean, you get a star for today !!!!!!!

Thank you.

Rockn'deano wrote:You want Deen Live?

Here you go...Tokyo 2004, Mother Father..

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 62164D7C72

Thank you. This is the first time I've heard him. I can see why they are having him sing more and more.

chickpea wrote:

Rockn'deano wrote:You want Deen Live?

Here you go...Tokyo 2004, Mother Father..

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 62164D7C72

Thank you. This is the first time I've heard him. I can see why they are having him sing more and more.

Sounds like Deen's hitting those highs just as easily as Perry was back in the '81 Houston show.

Deen definitely sounds more like Perry than Augeri. I've heard him sing before, just not M/F. I have no doubt he could do the job, but I doubt his voice is conditioned to sing 90+ minutes a night as a lead vocalist. Play the what if game: IF Steve left or got the axe, IF Deen took over and they found a fill in drummer so he could front as well, my guess is his voice would end up where SA's is.

A review from another site on the Jones Beach show:

I was really excited to see Journey with Def Leppard, I'm a fan of both bands. The sound quality was horrible, the bass was really, really loud and you could barely hear the lead singers.
- Chris
Merrick, NY
(9:18:30 pm PDT - June 24, 2006)


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Just speculation, but are they turning up the bass to help with the vocal problems?

Rockn'deano wrote:You want Deen Live?

Here you go...Tokyo 2004, Mother Father..

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 62164D7C72

Amazing voice and real not tape haha,i heard Dean did Something to Hide last year as well?

bionic wrote:

Rockn'deano wrote:You want Deen Live?

Here you go...Tokyo 2004, Mother Father..

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 62164D7C72

Amazing voice and real not tape haha,i heard Dean did Something to Hide last year as well?

I would like to hear him give "Sweet and Simple" a try as well, especially that really high bit towards the end.

Rockn'deano wrote:You want Deen Live?

Here you go...Tokyo 2004, Mother Father..

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 62164D7C72

Awesome stuff. Thank you!

The Rockline thing really surprised me. Journey needs all the promotion they can get right now. That show is carried on a ton of stations, and undoubtedly they'd play something off Generations during the show...that alone would get new Journey music to more people than probably the whole last year of radio play combined.

Both the radio show and the tourdates were scheduled for months, there was no "scheduling conflict" or anything. The fact that they backed out of such a big promotional thing (that didn't even require them to perform, just talk for 90 minutes and answer some questions) is not an admission of guilt on its own, but to me shows they definitely have something to hide.

WalrusOct9 wrote:The Rockline thing really surprised me. Journey needs all the promotion they can get right now. That show is carried on a ton of stations, and undoubtedly they'd play something off Generations during the show...that alone would get new Journey music to more people than probably the whole last year of radio play combined.

Both the radio show and the tourdates were scheduled for months, there was no "scheduling conflict" or anything. The fact that they backed out of such a big promotional thing (that didn't even require them to perform, just talk for 90 minutes and answer some questions) is not an admission of guilt on its own, but to me shows they definitely have something to hide.

Dude, this IS the last tour...they don't care anymore. they are cashing in, and letting this THING slide...heartless fucks they are.

Journey are really scumbags for this.