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Postby TRAGChick » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:55 am

From the BT Forum....look what JUST SURFACED - a Boston.org member posted a conversation he had with Mr. Joe Benson himself...."last 10 Months" or so, eh?

If this is anywhere near the truth, then perhaps....nope...not gonna say it!

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http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum10 ... 02013.html
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Postby whocares » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:11 am

Personally, I'd rather hear him solo, than with the group again.

He himself asked that the band not go on and "soil" the name. Unfortuantely, they went on, and now the name is perhaps forever soiled.

Whatever he's up to, I'm happy for him. Which is more than I can say for a certain few others.
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Postby TRAGChick » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:21 am

whocares wrote:Personally, I'd rather hear him solo, than with the group again.

He himself asked that the band not go on and "soil" the name. Unfortuantely, they went on, and now the name is perhaps forever soiled.

Whatever he's up to, I'm happy for him. Which is more than I can say for a certain few others.


Couldn't agree more! 8) I don't want him back w/Journey, either.
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Postby whocares » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:28 am

I rather liked his '94 solo tour band, young, energetic, and basically they could play all the back-up he needed to sing the Journey stuff. What more does one need?

Where I live Journey has long been very supported as far as selling out, or near sell outs. Even the newer line-up. I dare say, that IF Perry wanted to and could sing for a whole tour, then he could sell out 15,000 seat arenas and amphitheaters too. I think he doesnt need to tour anymore financially speaking, but I'd love an occasionaly new CD or even a song or two every once in a while from him, where he sings lead, not background for other people.
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Postby TRAGChick » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:35 am

whocares wrote:I rather liked his '94 solo tour band, young, energetic, and basically they could play all the back-up he needed to sing the Journey stuff. What more does one need?

Where I live Journey has long been very supported as far as selling out, or near sell outs. Even the newer line-up. I dare say, that IF Perry wanted to and could sing for a whole tour, then he could sell out 15,000 seat arenas and amphitheaters too. I think he doesnt need to tour anymore financially speaking, but I'd love an occasionaly new CD or even a song or two every once in a while from him, where he sings lead, not background for other people.


I totally understand the whole "touring" thing....Jeremey said it best: that Steve is not a young man anymore; touring is very demanding; etc. etc.

I would just love to hear another CD, and that's it - I'm not expecting a tour or anything else....believe me, the process of recording a CD is exhausting!

BUT:

If he pulled a "Madonna-type" tour scenario - where people would have to come to HIM for only 3 or 4 shows - NY, LA, & Chicago come to mind:

MAKE WAY FOR THE STAMPEDE!! LOL
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Postby whocares » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:42 am

as long as he doesn't make a crappy movie about his tour, like she did years back. I agree.

I know it's hard being a recording musician, I've got a studio in my house and I'm a singer, so I know what you are talking about.

I'd most likely do waht i could to be there even if he did a one off show, anywhere. Just for the curiosity alone.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:43 am

Any band of note has a history of fame and sometimes infamy. Journey certainly is living up to these prospects. If you think about it, a reunion would be just that much more of a happening now. I have no doubt that the chemistry would be right there and it would be proven that Perry is what's been missing these past 8-10 years.

It's not like murder has been committed, or one of the guys who made the magic has passed on, God forbid. It's a band and this is just what bands do, imo.

If he is going to sing at all, I would rather he did it with Journey. I still think that they complete each other.
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Postby Marabelle » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:49 am

lol! r u kidding? that would be a nightmare. destiny fulfilled. they'd be tangling on the stage
fighting to the death. lips bruised. eyes black. no way. i wouldn't want to see it cause if they got on stage and were smiling, patting each other on the back and saying how swell it is to see the other guy i'd want my money back. this is not a fairytale or a play; this is life and these guys do not get along and now i don't think will ever share a stage together. forget the lip synching this would over shadow it and put it in the freakazoid category.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:56 am

I have always felt that with a band, it's all about the music. They don't have to sleep together to make beautiful music.
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Postby Marabelle » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:59 am

well that may be true but i don't think they'd eat breakfast or lunch or dinner together either.
it is about the music and you should have some sort of relationship with the other band members; i think that they did but now i think that they don't. it's over. i don't think steve p would want to play with the other members if it is determined that there was lippin going on; he'd be kind of furious. he doesn't need to ride on their coat tails.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:16 am

Imo, he's the only one that can save their sorry ass's. They desperately need focus and control. Even if Deen took over as frontman, they would still lack the focus and control, not to mention the demand for perfection, that Perry brought to the band.
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Postby whocares » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:23 am

The only person I can see touring with Perry would be Smitty. Even he had the foresight to see that it wouldn't be a good thing to have to tour continuously. His loyalty is with Perry, even if Perry "fired" him in 85/86. I could see those two doing something together as far as recording goes. Touring, not a chance.

Perry stuck up for Schon when he got hit in the head with a beer bottle, but by the end of the ROR tour, they said they hated each other. I'm sure a lot of things weent through Perry's head when it came time to tour for TBF. Would I have liked to have heard some of the new (at the time) material live? hell yes, who wouldn't? But we know it ain't ever gonna happen so...
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Re: They say, "Timing is everything in life..."

Postby *Laura » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:34 am

tragchk wrote:From the BT Forum....look what JUST SURFACED - a Boston.org member posted a conversation he had with Mr. Joe Benson himself...."last 10 Months" or so, eh?

If this is anywhere near the truth, then perhaps....nope...not gonna say it!

Oh my God:
http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum10 ... 02013.html


While reading that I remembered some things he said in the recent past...

Approximate quotes -- "It would need 3 or 4 months to get back in shape" (Perry talking about his voice last October),

"I'm doing scales everyday,to see what's left" (the meeting with Perryville),

and then saying something about wanting to get his "feet wet" on Mitch Lafon's interview(or was it the ClassicRockRevisited one?not sure) ...

And now this.Interesting.

I would definately like to hear him sing again.Solo.
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Postby Perry_Rainbows » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:37 am

Joe Benson also didnt know that Augeri was lipping.
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Postby Abitaman » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:05 am

Would be nice to see Perry doing something again, but keep him out of Journey-ERIC
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Postby wildone » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:14 am

Abitaman wrote:Would be nice to see Perry doing something again, but keep him out of Journey-ERIC
would be great to hear "The voice " again with something new....and Journeys looking a lil tarnished to be getting on that train again..
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Postby yak » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:19 am

Abitaman wrote:Would be nice to see Perry doing something again, but keep him out of Journey-ERIC



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Postby TRAGChick » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:43 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:Any band of note has a history of fame and sometimes infamy. Journey certainly is living up to these prospects. If you think about it, a reunion would be just that much more of a happening now. I have no doubt that the chemistry would be right there and it would be proven that Perry is what's been missing these past 8-10 years.

It's not like murder has been committed, or one of the guys who made the magic has passed on, God forbid. It's a band and this is just what bands do, imo.

If he is going to sing at all, I would rather he did it with Journey. I still think that they complete each other.


While this is a nice thought, believe me....it's totally different when you're up there front-and-center, KNOWING that the person to your left or right is NOT happy with you, for whatever reason....you can FEEL the "daggers"....

There's enough to be concerned about - like doing your job to the best of your ability.
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:49 pm

Journey's already got a singer. Two, actually. :wink:
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Postby ohsherrie » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:20 am

Thanks Nora, interesting. At least we know he still can sing if he wants to.
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Postby cetera » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:23 am

ohsherrie wrote:Thanks Nora, interesting. At least we know he still can sing if he wants to.


I'd bet my last penny he can't hit the high notes any more though. I'm not slagging him.... simply pointing out the likely situation....
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Postby ohsherrie » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:27 am

cetera wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:Thanks Nora, interesting. At least we know he still can sing if he wants to.


I'd bet my last penny he can't hit the high notes any more though. I'm not slagging him.... simply pointing out the likely situation....



Probably not the very high ones, but that's never been the best of his voice for me. I like the lower range soulful sound.
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Postby chickpea » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:14 am

I'd love to hear some new stuff from him. Not sure I would want him permanently back with Journey though. It would be nice for those of us who are less fortunate and never were able to see them back in the early 80s to be able to see them together just once.
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Postby Monker » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:28 am

The only person I can see touring with Perry would be Smitty. Even he had the foresight to see that it wouldn't be a good thing to have to tour continuously. His loyalty is with Perry, even if Perry "fired" him in 85/86.


Oh, please, what a completely false statement. His 'loyalty' is with Perry? Is that why he gave Deen advice right from the start, and sat in the audience for their debut performance with Augeri, cheering the band on?

His 'loyalty' is the same as Gregg's....to own happyness. He is happier doing his own thing with his Jazz band then he would be performing with Journey. That is the impression I have had in every interview since TBF...He was in it for the 'reunion'...Not loyalty towards one person or another.
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:41 am

Monker wrote:His 'loyalty' is the same as Gregg's....to own happyness. He is happier doing his own thing with his Jazz band then he would be performing with Journey. That is the impression I have had in every interview since TBF...He was in it for the 'reunion'...Not loyalty towards one person or another.


You're right. He was only interested in rejoining Journey if the classic lineup was kept intact. That goes to show you his character, since he could easily have been bitter towards Perry for kicking him out of the group during the ROR sessions.
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Re: They say, "Timing is everything in life..."

Postby TRAGChick » Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:27 am

Shania wrote:
tragchk wrote:From the BT Forum....look what JUST SURFACED - a Boston.org member posted a conversation he had with Mr. Joe Benson himself...."last 10 Months" or so, eh?

If this is anywhere near the truth, then perhaps....nope...not gonna say it!

Oh my God:
http://www.journeymusic.com/ubb/Forum10 ... 02013.html


While reading that I remembered some things he said in the recent past...

Approximate quotes -- "It would need 3 or 4 months to get back in shape" (Perry talking about his voice last October),

"I'm doing scales everyday,to see what's left" (the meeting with Perryville),

and then saying something about wanting to get his "feet wet" on Mitch Lafon's interview(or was it the ClassicRockRevisited one?not sure) ...

And now this.Interesting.

I would definately like to hear him sing again.Solo.


...and the plot thickens.

Here's what he had to say right after the White Sox World Series.

Quote:

"I do miss singing, period. These guys - you don't know what these guys have done for me, emotionally. I think they're gonna get, y'know, my life back together in some ways through Baseball...maybe start singin' again, y'know - it's been awhile."
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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:15 am

I doubt Perry is ever coming back. Not trying to stir shit, just what I think. I hope he does, but not with Journey.
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Postby whocares » Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:19 am

NealIsGod wrote:I doubt Perry is ever coming back. Not trying to stir shit, just what I think. I hope he does, but not with Journey.



I don't think most people who really want Perry to sing again, want him back in Journey either. I don't think he'd want to even for a ton of money, after this fiasco of having people going at each other over what may or may not be irrefutable proof, in some peoples eyes. I dont' believe the only info he gets is from the folks at Asylum, I'm not saying he lurks or reads everything, but I think he knows more than he lets on. He knows people want to hear him again, and he still has enough of an ego to want to put something out and say, WOW, I'm on the radio again.
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Postby wildone » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:19 am

whocares wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:I doubt Perry is ever coming back. Not trying to stir shit, just what I think. I hope he does, but not with Journey.



I don't think most people who really want Perry to sing again, want him back in Journey either. I don't think he'd want to even for a ton of money, after this fiasco of having people going at each other over what may or may not be irrefutable proof, in some peoples eyes. I dont' believe the only info he gets is from the folks at Asylum, I'm not saying he lurks or reads everything, but I think he knows more than he lets on. He knows people want to hear him again, and he still has enough of an ego to want to put something out and say, WOW, I'm on the radio again.
yeah but if it's a money thing and an ego thing they'd get both by bringing him back ...one last tour for the band and him and maybe some new songs what a way to end the 30 year party..nothing but packed venues without having to tour with anyone else.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:20 am

perrys not coming back i know,, and hes been heard before to say hes is back ,, and nothing ,, but heck ,

its a bit embarrassing being a journey fan right now,, it would be cool if something happened

and they really hit it big again,,, great album ,, big production,, show everyone how the big boys used

to do it !!!
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