Bad night in Raliegh NC

by **nolippin** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:09 pm

This is pretty sad. They are not only destroying Augeri's voice, they are destroying his career. The drummer had to come out from behind the drums to finish the songs???

I guess I should have stated that this is a fan review from "another website".

posted July 04, 2006 07:33 PM
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Well, if you love to hear Deen sing, you really would have loved tonight.
Apparently Steve hasn't sounded well for the last few shows because he must have one heck of a flu or cold or something. After the first song it was quite apparent something wasn't right and it was all downhill from there.

Deen, thankfully, took the lead for numerous songs - including Faithfully and Open Arms. He let his roadie (I think?) take drums for those two. Augeri struggled hard through what he could, but really only sang half a song here and half a song there. There was also PLENTY of "let the audience sing". No encore, of course, and as they walked off stage Augeri put his head on Deen's shoulder. Don't get me wrong, I love Journey and I know this is just a bad night, but man, it was just awful to sit through. There was zero energy on stage, I'm sure the guys all knew how the evening was shaping up.

Steve did throw his mic stand WAY up in the air and catch it, which was quite cool. Being the 4th, the crowd loved SSB. I really think most of the crowd got into it by the end - at least from my 3rd row, right (Jon) side.

Personally, I'm crushed - I've been so looking forward to hearing Still They Ride live here in my hometown - and I thought it was a sure bet since they've played it EVERY NIGHT SO FAR but tonight. No Edge of the Blade, Keep on Runnin, Where Were You, or Mother Father. I'm guessing since Deen was singing so much else, they took all of the above out.

So, out of 9 shows, this is my only bummer of a show. Neal's playing was great, Ross was a clown, Jon was absorbed in the music, and Deen really did an awesome job. I don't want this to sound harsh - I really DO understand how a sick lead singer can ruin the night - but why did it have to be MY night? Will it be another 5 years before they come back? I KNOW next year's show that I see will be SO MUCH better. I do love you still, JRNY

To end on a positive note, my brother, who saw Perry with me in 94 but had never seen Journey, said the show really was awesome on the lawn seats - though everyone was confused asking if the drummer was the lead singer.

PS - For all the ladies who want the fashion report, Steve had on a red shirt with jeans.

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:15 pm

Well, at least he caught the mic stand, and didn't let it crash into the drum kit like the other night.

Dude, check yourself. Have some dignity guys, release him from his contract, and let him have some dignity. It's like keeping a good racehorse out there, who can't get better than a 5th place finish, and he keeps embarrassing himself.

by **Abitaman** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:17 pm

hopefully no more shows will be added, and Steve can get a year off to get well. Steve can sing!! And has done a great job, can still do it to, but he and the band needs a break. Hope he is well enough for Nashville, or if not cancel, go go tape gate. No Journey......well I don't want to See Def, that is for sure.-ERIC

by **Wildfire** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:21 pm

I am not a fan of current Journey but this is soooooo sad, please leave Steve A some dignity and allow him to get well. This must be so hard on him, poor guy. I feel really bad for him. :cry:

by **Abitaman** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:22 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:Well, at least he caught the mic stand, and didn't let it crash into the drum kit like the other night.

Dude, check yourself. Have some dignity guys, release him from his contract, and let him have some dignity. It's like keeping a good racehorse out there, who can't get better than a 5th place finish, and he keeps embarrassing himself.

Dean, you do not give up on someone when they are down. He has done them a great job, give him and group time off, then come back, if it doesn't happen then........-ERIC

by **EightyRock** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:24 pm

Deen's DRUM TECH had to fill in while Deen went out front to sing? So I guess basically, anybody can play in Journey now. Any aspiring musician's out there? It's a free-for-all. What's next, an audience member gets to come onstage to fill in for the lead singer? Yeah, I'd pay big bucks to go see these concerts. :shock:

Joe Elliott has to be kicking himself for letting this tour happen.

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:32 pm

The BT ers are all freaking out. They think the author of this original review is nolippin here. :roll:

That place is headed for thermo-nuclear meltdown.

by **Saint John** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:34 pm

Wow, and to think just a couple of weeks ago Steve sounded PERFECT for all the European gigs, except for the Faithfully debacle. How can anyone with half a fuckin' brain not realize that THIS DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. His mic wasn't on in Europe...til it HAD to be. C'mon non-believers, the jig is up. Hell, Terry Schiavo could've figured this out. Cancel the tour and start puckering up to Perry. This is truly sad.

by **EightyRock** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:35 pm

Hey dude, when Journey starts farming out their instruments to their techs, it's way past meltdown time.

by **Abitaman** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:36 pm

Saint John wrote:Wow, and to think just a couple of weeks ago Steve sounded PERFECT for all the European gigs, except for the Faithfully debacle. How can anyone with half a fuckin' brain not realize that THIS DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. His mic wasn't on in Europe...til it HAD to be. C'mon non-believers, the jig is up. Hell, Terry Schiavo could've figured this out. Cancel the tour and start puckering up to Perry. This is truly sad.

DO NOT cancel unless it for Augeri to rest, why get Perry back and have no improvemnt-ERIC

by **Saint John** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:36 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:The BT ers are all freaking out. They think the author of this original review is nolippin here.

That place is headed for thermo-nuclear meltdown.

They're just trying to focus on something else. They LOVE to stray from the truth.

by **nolippin** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:37 pm

Nope. I just posted the guy's review. Sorry, dude!!

I guess this shows why Journey has been able to pull the wool over their fans "ears" for so long!! :roll:

Rockn'deano wrote:The BT ers are all freaking out. They think the author of this original review is nolippin here.

That place is headed for thermo-nuclear meltdown.

by **FTLOSM** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:37 pm

I would love to hear that show from the reviews so far.

by **Distant Voice** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:39 pm

EightyRock wrote:Deen's DRUM TECH had to fill in while Deen went out front to sing? So I guess basically, anybody can play in Journey now. Any aspiring musician's out there? It's a free-for-all. What's next, an audience member gets to come onstage to fill in for the lead singer? Yeah, I'd pay big bucks to go see these concerts. Joe Elliott has to be kicking himself for letting this tour happen.

LMFAO

by **Liam** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:39 pm

Can I join Journey now? I'll do a good job, I PROMISE. lol.
Seriously...I still feel that a contract is being held over Augeri's head by Azoff (sp?),Cain, and Schon. Which is why I think he hasn't walked off stage so "save" himself. Then again...don't know the guy, don't know if he's as "stand up" as people make him out to be, so I could be WAY off here. Either way the name Journey and Augeri's vocals are fucked.

by **Saint John** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:41 pm

Abitaman wrote:
Saint John wrote:Wow, and to think just a couple of weeks ago Steve sounded PERFECT for all the European gigs, except for the Faithfully debacle. How can anyone with half a fuckin' brain not realize that THIS DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. His mic wasn't on in Europe...til it HAD to be. C'mon non-believers, the jig is up. Hell, Terry Schiavo could've figured this out. Cancel the tour and start puckering up to Perry. This is truly sad.

DO NOT cancel unless it for Augeri to rest, why get Perry back and have no improvemnt-ERIC

No improvement? Are you serious? Take a look at what Uncle Joe recently said about Perry's voice. Something like, "I was sitting no more than six feet away in a recording studio, and it's pretty much ALL still there." And they're HIS songs. This karaoke bullshit has got to end. Ship Augeri back to The Gap to clean toilets. He's a fraud. He KNOWINGLY started this tour with no voice. They got caught and they're fucked. I DO NOT feel sorry for him. Never will, as he was NEVER good.

by **r@y** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:43 pm

Abitaman wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:Well, at least he caught the mic stand, and didn't let it crash into the drum kit like the other night.

Dude, check yourself. Have some dignity guys, release him from his contract, and let him have some dignity. It's like keeping a good racehorse out there, who can't get better than a 5th place finish, and he keeps embarrassing himself.

Dean, you do not give up on someone when they are down. He has done them a great job, give him and group time off, then come back, if it doesn't happen then........-ERIC

You're right, Eric.

I think thats basically what many are saying here. The best thing for the band to do right now is take a break, probably a year to be ideal, and go into the studio, do a new album maybe and THEN come out again and tour, say in 2008..?

But then again, looking at the flip side of things, what if SA's voice goes toast halfway-thru again like it did this year..? They cant do this stop-halfway-take a break-come back again routine every year, right..?

So therein lies the dilemma....

Ray

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:45 pm

Abitaman wrote:
Dean, you do not give up on someone when they are down. He has done them a great job, give him and group time off, then come back, if it doesn't happen then........-ERIC

Ok, ERIC, I'll play along.

I would ordinarily NOY give up on him, as he has been a steady soldier, however, no amount of rest will reverse his voice. No way.

Secondly, my support for Augeri went from 100% to 0% when I found out the shit he pulled for a year; and you can bet he will never get another job singing either.

Jesus ERIC, a person who believes in the cloth such as yourself is advocating cheating and deceit? I am shocked.

by **nolippin** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:47 pm

Augeri had to know what shape his voice was in when he went on stage tonight.

I don't think they are in any position to cancel. They have a contract and it affects Def Leppard. They've got to find another singer...or another drummer.

There's no way Perry is going to pull their asses out of this. He's probably too busy laughing his ass off at Neal for trying to pull this off.

Saint John wrote:
Abitaman wrote:
Saint John wrote:Wow, and to think just a couple of weeks ago Steve sounded PERFECT for all the European gigs, except for the Faithfully debacle. How can anyone with half a fuckin' brain not realize that THIS DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. His mic wasn't on in Europe...til it HAD to be. C'mon non-believers, the jig is up. Hell, Terry Schiavo could've figured this out. Cancel the tour and start puckering up to Perry. This is truly sad.

DO NOT cancel unless it for Augeri to rest, why get Perry back and have no improvemnt-ERIC

No improvement? Are you serious? Take a look at what Uncle Joe recently said about Perry's voice. Something like, "I was sitting no more than six feet away in a recording studio, and it's pretty much ALL still there." And they're HIS songs. This karaoke bullshit has got to end. Ship Augeri back to The Gap to clean toilets. He's a fraud. He KNOWINGLY started this tour with no voice. They got caught and they're fucked. I DO NOT feel sorry for him. Never will, as he was NEVER good.

by **jrnyjetster** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:48 pm

Oh man...this just keeps getting worse. Please get well Steve Augeri! I'm really concerned because I'm bringing 2 friends along that haven't seen this lineup live yet. They will have 2 days off from the road before they hit West Palm Beach on July 10th, so hopefully Steve will be rested. I honestly hope Steve can recover his pipes and make it thru this tour...this is awful.

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:50 pm

jrnyjetster wrote::( Oh man...this just keeps getting worse. Please get well Steve Augeri! I'm really concerned because I'm bringing 2 friends along that haven't seen this lineup live yet. They will have 2 days off from the road before they hit West Palm Beach on July 10th, so hopefully Steve will be rested. I honestly hope Steve can recover his pipes and make it thru this tour...this is awful.

That ain't where the smart money is.

by **Abitaman** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:50 pm

Saint John wrote:
Abitaman wrote:
Saint John wrote:Wow, and to think just a couple of weeks ago Steve sounded PERFECT for all the European gigs, except for the Faithfully debacle. How can anyone with half a fuckin' brain not realize that THIS DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. His mic wasn't on in Europe...til it HAD to be. C'mon non-believers, the jig is up. Hell, Terry Schiavo could've figured this out. Cancel the tour and start puckering up to Perry. This is truly sad.

DO NOT cancel unless it for Augeri to rest, why get Perry back and have no improvemnt-ERIC

No improvement? Are you serious? Take a look at what Uncle Joe recently said about Perry's voice. Something like, "I was sitting no more than six feet away in a recording studio, and it's pretty much ALL still there." And they're HIS songs. This karaoke bullshit has got to end. Ship Augeri back to The Gap to clean toilets. He's a fraud. He KNOWINGLY started this tour with no voice. They got caught and they're fucked. I DO NOT feel sorry for him. Never will, as he was NEVER good.

That is you opinion. Anyone can sound good in the studio, get your butt out on tour every night and see what happens. have several ROR shows and FTLOSM shows were his voice was not very good. DO NOT GET ME WRONG
1) if Augeri can not do this tour, get him the rest he needs, if then after a year off he can not go on then the next step would be a different singer. 2) I want Perry to sing again, BUT NOT IN JOURNEY. Bring Perry back would not be an improvement, Perry is a shadow of what he was, which would still be good, but with Perry back, it would be no Journey touring.
Why is it hard for people think Augeri shouldn't take a year off. Perry did. Frontiers 83 and ROR in 86. that is 3 years, yes there was a year for a tour, and Perry made a cd (WITH NO TOUR), so it was over a year off.-ERIC

by **nolippin** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:00 pm

Man, why is it hard for you to understand that they can't take a freaking year off...they are in the middle of a tour, and Augeri's voice is damaged!!!???

They have a contract. They have no choice but to get another singer. Simple as that. This wasn't a bad night. It's been going on for the whole tour.

I don't want Perry to come pull their asses out. Neal got himself into this...he has to get himself out.

Abitaman wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Abitaman wrote:
Saint John wrote:Wow, and to think just a couple of weeks ago Steve sounded PERFECT for all the European gigs, except for the Faithfully debacle. How can anyone with half a fuckin' brain not realize that THIS DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. His mic wasn't on in Europe...til it HAD to be. C'mon non-believers, the jig is up. Hell, Terry Schiavo could've figured this out. Cancel the tour and start puckering up to Perry. This is truly sad.

DO NOT cancel unless it for Augeri to rest, why get Perry back and have no improvemnt-ERIC

No improvement? Are you serious? Take a look at what Uncle Joe recently said about Perry's voice. Something like, "I was sitting no more than six feet away in a recording studio, and it's pretty much ALL still there." And they're HIS songs. This karaoke bullshit has got to end. Ship Augeri back to The Gap to clean toilets. He's a fraud. He KNOWINGLY started this tour with no voice. They got caught and they're fucked. I DO NOT feel sorry for him. Never will, as he was NEVER good.

That is you opinion. Anyone can sound good in the studio, get your butt out on tour every night and see what happens. have several ROR shows and FTLOSM shows were his voice was not very good. DO NOT GET ME WRONG
1) if Augeri can not do this tour, get him the rest he needs, if then after a year off he can not go on then the next step would be a different singer. 2) I want Perry to sing again, BUT NOT IN JOURNEY. Bring Perry back would not be an improvement, Perry is a shadow of what he was, which would still be good, but with Perry back, it would be no Journey touring.
Why is it hard for people think Augeri shouldn't take a year off. Perry did. Frontiers 83 and ROR in 86. that is 3 years, yes there was a year for a tour, and Perry made a cd (WITH NO TOUR), so it was over a year off.-ERIC

by **Marabelle** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:06 pm

this is awful.

by **Distant Voice** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:08 pm

nolippin wrote:Man, why is it hard for you to understand that they can't take a freaking year off...they are in the middle of a tour, and Augeri's voice is damaged!!!???

They have a contract. They have no choice but to get another singer. Simple as that. This wasn't a bad night. It's been going on for the whole tour.

Abitaman wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Abitaman wrote:
Saint John wrote:Wow, and to think just a couple of weeks ago Steve sounded PERFECT for all the European gigs, except for the Faithfully debacle. How can anyone with half a fuckin' brain not realize that THIS DIDN'T JUST HAPPEN. His mic wasn't on in Europe...til it HAD to be. C'mon non-believers, the jig is up. Hell, Terry Schiavo could've figured this out. Cancel the tour and start puckering up to Perry. This is truly sad.

DO NOT cancel unless it for Augeri to rest, why get Perry back and have no improvemnt-ERIC

No improvement? Are you serious? Take a look at what Uncle Joe recently said about Perry's voice. Something like, "I was sitting no more than six feet away in a recording studio, and it's pretty much ALL still there." And they're HIS songs. This karaoke bullshit has got to end. Ship Augeri back to The Gap to clean toilets. He's a fraud. He KNOWINGLY started this tour with no voice. They got caught and they're fucked. I DO NOT feel sorry for him. Never will, as he was NEVER good.

That is you opinion. Anyone can sound good in the studio, get your butt out on tour every night and see what happens. have several ROR shows and FTLOSM shows were his voice was not very good. DO NOT GET ME WRONG
1) if Augeri can not do this tour, get him the rest he needs, if then after a year off he can not go on then the next step would be a different singer. 2) I want Perry to sing again, BUT NOT IN JOURNEY. Bring Perry back would not be an improvement, Perry is a shadow of what he was, which would still be good, but with Perry back, it would be no Journey touring.
Why is it hard for people think Augeri shouldn't take a year off. Perry did. Frontiers 83 and ROR in 86. that is 3 years, yes there was a year for a tour, and Perry made a cd (WITH NO TOUR), so it was over a year off.-ERIC

"I don't want Perry to come pull their asses out. Neal got himself into this...he has to get himself out."

I'm sure Journey is on their own, someday neal is going to understand some things are worth waiting for...enough said

by **Moon Beam** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:10 pm

My heartstrings are playing for Augeri.
I feel so bad that he is having such an awful time
with his voice.
It's heartbreaking all around.
The fans that have paid to see them and the band
that is trying to play strong like they usually do.
A sad situation indeed.
I would hope in time his pipes would recover to
100% of what they are now.
If an artist has a year away from singing is it
possible to make a full recovery or even close to it?
I wouldn't know.
Jeremey and Nora could maybe chime in here and answer.
Also I don't think Perry would ever come back
for a tour, maybe a show or two but I just couldn't
see him going on any tour from what he has stated
in the past.
Man I would love it if he did but that's a bet I won't take.

O.T Rubiconman who is that in your avatar fella?

by **Liam** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:16 pm

IMO...I Honestly don't see Augeri surviving the rest of his life without surgery if he's gonna sing. Hope I'm wrong...but with what I've heard.....not lookin' good

by **r@y** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:18 pm

Moon Beam wrote:O.T Rubiconman who is that in your avatar fella?

That would be Steve 'Luke' Lukather, Toto guitar wiz and session ace...

Cheers

Ray

by **Carrington** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:20 pm

someday neal is going to understand some things are worth waiting for...enough said

Damn!, now if that isn't the last 8 years wrapped up.......I don't know what is......

by **Saint John** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:21 pm

This is far fetched, but give it a listen. I doubt Smitty would come back and Dunsbar is with the New Cars. I think they'll find another drummer and give Dean lead. It might be their only option. Augeri's voice isn't gonna get better. He had several months off and that didn't help. How the hell is 2 or 3 nights gonna help. Also, I don't mean Perry would tour now, rather next year. Augeri is done at the end of this tour, maybe sooner. 8 years...nothing accomplished. Bye.

MR

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