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Imagine the folk who either don't have the net or haven't been on the net recently when they go to that gig tonight expecting to see 1 singer and see a totally different one...

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the minute when they all go "EH?"

Les wrote:Imagine the folk who either don't have the net or haven't been on the net recently when they go to that gig tonight expecting to see 1 singer and see a totally different one...

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the minute when they all go "EH?"

Yeah, especially with the VERY STRONG persona of Mr. Soto

I can hear it now:

"Um - WHY is Steve Perry/Augeri wearing a HAT??"

...gotta cover ALL the bases, y'know?

tragchk wrote:

Les wrote:Imagine the folk who either don't have the net or haven't been on the net recently when they go to that gig tonight expecting to see 1 singer and see a totally different one...

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the minute when they all go "EH?"

Yeah, especially with the VERY STRONG persona of Mr. Soto

I can hear it now:

"Um - WHY is Steve Perry/Augeri wearing a HAT??"

...gotta cover ALL the bases, y'know?

That's a very good way to put it. Jeff isn't 'laid back'
Wonder if he'll just be wearing a white tank top.....
Trust me , I am not going were others have gone with this whole butt and pant thing and how good or bad someone looked, etc....
I just don't see Jeff dressing up in a way that Steve A. did, more casual like Steve P.
Not that it matters. I was just watching some shows of Jeff and he looks pretty rough in just a white tank top and messy looking hair, no hat.

For the people that are open minded and just want to hear good music, I'm fairly certain they'll have a great show.

Just like the Perryheads back in the late 90's though, if they don't care what the band sounds like and only want Augeri, they'll be miserable.

Fortunately or unfortunately, Augeri isn't that well known outside of circles like this forum so the average person will likely only know going into the show that it isn't Steve Perry singing.

Overall, I think the impact of this change will be far, far less eventful than when Perry left.

I agree. Augeri, IMO, just didn't have much stage presence...never seemed to take charge.

I really don't think he's left much of a mark.

Phreedom wrote:For the people that are open minded and just want to hear good music, I'm fairly certain they'll have a great show.

Just like the Perryheads back in the late 90's though, if they don't care what the band sounds like and only want Augeri, they'll be miserable.

Fortunately or unfortunately, Augeri isn't that well known outside of circles like this forum so the average person will likely only know going into the show that it isn't Steve Perry singing.

Overall, I think the impact of this change will be far, far less eventful than when Perry left.

nolippin....

what u on about.."Augeri didnt make a mark????" Jeez the guy has been their for 10 soddin years... he has kept the Jrny ship afloat!!

As for stage prescence.... the guy is infinitely preffered to Perry.. I never did like the chicken with no head prancing around that Perry did..anyway...it was a long time ago.. you wld prob find that Perry wld be more laid back now he is older anyway

Please dont mistake Augeri's more laid back approach as "not being in charge" or as having "no prescence" The guy fits in better than Perry... his style suits the band
By the way Im not a BT'er or particularly allied to anyones cause.. Im from the UK... and saw Jrny in Manchester recently...awesome.. it was just before the "tapegate" thing broke.. no one was any the wiser... and we all enjoyed it a great deal!

god luck to JSS.. but I hope that Steve A can return

regards

Neil

Well, he was there for almost eight years. His last performance damn near sunk that ship!!!

THAT is the biggest mark he has made.

neilmaclookalike wrote:nolippin....

what u on about.."Augeri didnt make a mark????" Jeez the guy has been their for 10 soddin years... he has kept the Jrny ship afloat!!

As for stage prescence.... the guy is infinitely preffered to Perry.. I never did like the chicken with no head prancing around that Perry did..anyway...it was a long time ago.. you wld prob find that Perry wld be more laid back now he is older anyway

Please dont mistake Augeri's more laid back approach as "not being in charge" or as having "no prescence" The guy fits in better than Perry... his style suits the band
By the way Im not a BT'er or particularly allied to anyones cause.. Im from the UK... and saw Jrny in Manchester recently...awesome.. it was just before the "tapegate" thing broke.. no one was any the wiser... and we all enjoyed it a great deal!

god luck to JSS.. but I hope that Steve A can return

regards

Neil

You think that Steve A had any choice... dont fool yrself man!! He is still, after all this time.. a hired hand.... I really hope that this is all fully explained one day..and that Steve A has a chance to put the record straight..but I suppose he will have to remain silent.... due to contract, and to ensure that one day he may return.

nolippin wrote:I agree. Augeri, IMO, ...never seemed to take charge.

Neal didn't want a take charge guy, Neal wanted to be in charge, and Neal is not a leader..-ERIC

neilmaclookalike wrote:As for stage prescence.... the guy is infinitely preffered to Perry.. I never did like the chicken with no head prancing around that Perry did.

Neil

You obviously have never seen the 1981 Houston DVD.

knox wrote:

neilmaclookalike wrote:As for stage prescence.... the guy is infinitely preffered to Perry.. I never did like the chicken with no head prancing around that Perry did.

Neil

You obviously have never seen the 1981 Houston DVD.

He runs around the same as he always did on it, what's your point?

Dude, he's not even a hired hand now!!! and he's not coming back!

neilmaclookalike wrote:You think that Steve A had any choice... dont fool yrself man!! He is still, after all this time.. a hired hand.... I really hope that this is all fully explained one day..and that Steve A has a chance to put the record straight..but I suppose he will have to remain silent.... due to contract, and to ensure that one day he may return.

How do you know he's not coming back? What do you know that we haven't been told? Seems like several of you have made the same remark but no one wants to set us all straight on where you get your information on.

When I first joined this board, one of the very first things that was ever put forth about this particular forum was: If you make a statement, be prepared to back it up with fact or don't get all twisted when your statements are questioned.

You, knox and Deano have stated he's not coming back. How do you know this as fact?

Thanks!

If you look at histories of bands where something like this happens - Styx comes to mind - they say the "right" thing (i.e. DDY will join the tour when he's healthy), when the truth is much different.

So color me shocked if Augeri ever sings a note with Journey again.

Liz, don't you know they can't reveal their top-secret sources? GEEZ!

Exactly! The press release said the "politically correct" thing. The key word in there is "chronic".

Do you really think JSS was able to just jump into a concert with Journey with only three days notice???

StyxCollector wrote:If you look at histories of bands where something like this happens - Styx comes to mind - they say the "right" thing (i.e. DDY will join the tour when he's healthy), when the truth is much different.

So color me shocked if Augeri ever sings a note with Journey again.

nolippin wrote:Exactly! The press release said the "politically correct" thing. The key word in there is "chronic".

Do you really think JSS was able to just jump into a concert with Journey with only three days notice???

StyxCollector wrote:If you look at histories of bands where something like this happens - Styx comes to mind - they say the "right" thing (i.e. DDY will join the tour when he's healthy), when the truth is much different.

So color me shocked if Augeri ever sings a note with Journey again.

Do I? Yup, without a doubt

nolippin wrote:Exactly! The press release said the "politically correct" thing. The key word in there is "chronic".

Do you really think JSS was able to just jump into a concert with Journey with only three days notice???

StyxCollector wrote:If you look at histories of bands where something like this happens - Styx comes to mind - they say the "right" thing (i.e. DDY will join the tour when he's healthy), when the truth is much different.

So color me shocked if Augeri ever sings a note with Journey again.

Do I? Yup, without a doubt

Wow! I got mentioned in a thread.

This is a great day in the life of Knox .

Thanks, Liz. I am in great company.

Journeygal - you rock!

knox wrote:Wow! I got mentioned in a thread.

This is a great day in the life of Knox .

Thanks, Liz. I am in great company.

Journeygal - you rock!

I double posted... so do I rock twice?!?!?!?

hope he is not wearing a wife beater...those things kind of freak me out.

Hi Styxcollector - when it is put the way you did, I can understand the meaning a heckuva lot better than when it is stated as FACT. But when someone says, 'he ain't comin back...he's toast, blah, blah, blah" - it is stated as fact. If you think you have facts - put your source out there. Can't possibly get any worse than it has been. (and I hope thats not wishful thinking).

Liz22562 wrote:Hi Styxcollector - when it is put the way you did, I can understand the meaning a heckuva lot better than when it is stated as FACT. But when someone says, 'he ain't comin back...he's toast, blah, blah, blah" - it is stated as fact. If you think you have facts - put your source out there. Can't possibly get any worse than it has been. (and I hope thats not wishful thinking).

Right...I have a gut feeling that he's not coming back but I can't say for sure that he is. If he does, great. If not, then let's hope that Journey puts out some more great music.

Liz, all banter and false arrogance aside, I just put together the situations and facts that are out there. Here is why I said he wasn't coming back.

He obviously has had problems with his voice. I don't believe the cover up stories of pnuemonia or acute infecitons or dry weather (didn't affect Deen) or asthma (he probably has asthma, but that didn't affect him in Tall Stories that we ever heard).

So, with so many excuses, along with recent boots of his voice, I believe there actually were tapes used overseas. I compared them as Dean did and actually believe what he and others reported.

There were just too many excuses made for Steve, and that, to me, shows a serious problem. As with Perry, I believe Augeri ruined his voice. Thus, I don't believe he will ever be back.

I was using "internet pompousness" to state it as fact. The "toast" comments are that of internet fun as well. That is all it was. Again, this is just me, Michael, telling you why I think he has permantly lost his voice.

Okay, I am going back to Knox again. I am schizophrenic, and so am I.

I also agree with those that believe this change has been in the works for a while. How long? I don't know. But I believe it has been coming for at least 6 months. I have nothing to back that up, just my gut feeling - which is worth about as much as registering a star in your name on the national star registry.

piecesofeight wrote:I just don't see Jeff dressing up in a way that Steve A. did, more casual like Steve P.

What? When did a tuxedo become casual?

knox wrote:He obviously has had problems with his voice. I don't believe the cover up stories of pnuemonia or acute infecitons or dry weather (didn't affect Deen) or asthma (he probably has asthma, but that didn't affect him in Tall Stories that we ever heard).

Uh, I could absolutely believe asthma. He could have been totaly unafffected by it in his TS days and developed it just recently. I know it was said he used an inhaler...is this the reason?

I get asthma this time of year and I can absolutely understand why it would throw him off the tour. If that's the case, he would be very inconsistent...bad days, good days, horrible days, and awesome days...all depending on how his body is reacting at the moment.

As with Perry, I believe Augeri ruined his voice. Thus, I don't believe he will ever be back.

Perry's voice was changed even in the studio recordings...Augeri's voice actualy sounds better on Generations. That's a big difference.

Monker wrote:Perry's voice was changed even in the studio recordings...Augeri's voice actualy sounds better on Generations. That's a big difference.

I noticed that as well. I thought he sounded a bit ragged on "Red 13" so I expected to hear more of the same on "Generations". I was pleasantly surprised, even though the number of tunes he sang was reduced.