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If anyone can answer this question, I'd appreciate it. I've never heard of any band subbing in a different lead singer in the middle of a tour before. I had tickets for a Toto concert and BK got sick and they cancelled the show. I had tickets for someone else and the lead singer got sick and the concert was cancelled. Maybe this has been done before, but it seems really weird to me. If anyone has any examples, I'd appreciate if you'd share them.

Thanks!

(And yes, I'm new here so I hope it's okay to ask a question!)

siobhan222 wrote:If anyone can answer this question, I'd appreciate it. I've never heard of any band subbing in a different lead singer in the middle of a tour before. I had tickets for a Toto concert and BK got sick and they cancelled the show. I had tickets for someone else and the lead singer got sick and the concert was cancelled. Maybe this has been done before, but it seems really weird to me. If anyone has any examples, I'd appreciate if you'd share them.

Thanks!

(And yes, I'm new here so I hope it's okay to ask a question!)

I'm sure some lesser known bands have done it but I don't remember any big name bands doing it.

Well, it's common knowledge that Paul McCartney died and was replaced by a lookalike. Just not in the middle of a tour.

Hey, maybe neilmaclookalike is the REAL Paul...?

NealIsGod wrote:Well, it's common knowledge that Paul McCartney died and was replaced by a lookalike. Just not in the middle of a tour.

Black Sabbath switched singers mid-tour in 1986, but that was like...replacing a replacment singer, so it wasn't like they replaced Ozzy or Dio mid-tour. Rob Halford also stood in with Sabbath for one-off shows in '92 and one last year or the year before, I can't remember.

WalrusOct9 wrote:Black Sabbath switched singers mid-tour in 1986, but that was like...replacing a replacment singer, so it wasn't like they replaced Ozzy or Dio mid-tour. Rob Halford also stood in with Sabbath for one-off shows in '92 and one last year or the year before, I can't remember.

You are of course refering to Ray Gillen, replacing Glenn Hughes 10 shows into the "Seventh Star" tour.

Rob stood in for Sabbath at the final two shows of Ozzy's "No More Tours" tour. He stood in for Ozzy during the 2004 edition of Ozzfest.

Squidward24 wrote:

WalrusOct9 wrote:Black Sabbath switched singers mid-tour in 1986, but that was like...replacing a replacment singer, so it wasn't like they replaced Ozzy or Dio mid-tour. Rob Halford also stood in with Sabbath for one-off shows in '92 and one last year or the year before, I can't remember.

You are of course refering to Ray Gillen, replacing Glenn Hughes 10 shows into the "Seventh Star" tour.

Rob stood in for Sabbath at the final two shows of Ozzy's "No More Tours" tour. He stood in for Ozzy during the 2004 edition of Ozzfest.

Rob also did a few shows in 92 on the DEhumanizer tour...special bill deals where they would have been (technically) opening for Ozzy, and Dio refused.

Big J wrote:Rob also did a few shows in 92 on the DEhumanizer tour...special bill deals where they would have been (technically) opening for Ozzy, and Dio refused.

I heard that somewhere also. Dio, similar to guys like Yngwie Malmsteen or David Coverdale, has been known to be a bit difficult to work for, to put it mildly. I don't think he has quite the rep that those other two do, though.

conversationpc wrote:

Big J wrote:Rob also did a few shows in 92 on the DEhumanizer tour...special bill deals where they would have been (technically) opening for Ozzy, and Dio refused.

I heard that somewhere also. Dio, similar to guys like Yngwie Malmsteen or David Coverdale, has been known to be a bit difficult to work for, to put it mildly. I don't think he has quite the rep that those other two do, though.

Coverdale lost me, when there were no more video's with THEN great looking Tawny Kitaen. Thank God he got me back for the Coverdale/Page CD.

I can't think of anyone doing this besides some that are already mentioned, unless you throw in John Corabi taking over if only for a few songs for Vince a few weeks ago in Tampa. Maybe Corabi should finish off and just strap Vince into an office chair with a bottle of Jack in his hands. How much of a fool can he make of himself like that?

whocares wrote:Coverdale lost me, when there were no more video's with THEN great looking Tawny Kitaen. Thank God he got me back for the Coverdale/Page CD.

Now THERE'S an underrated album! I purchased that expecting it to suck, to tell the truth. I was happily wrong.

Rob also did a few shows in 92 on the DEhumanizer tour...special bill deals where they would have been (technically) opening for Ozzy, and Dio refused.

A couple of those "Dehumanizer" vids have surfaced online. Strange to hear Rob singing Dio/Sabbath stuff. I've heard him enough times on the Ozzy material that I'm used to that.

Well I guess it's been done before ... but not usually with a band like Journey and not usually with a lead singer that has been with them for 8 years. Does that seem strange then to anyone else? Or, am I reading more into this than I should be?

strange? no way.

That would make it seem like some kind of controversy, and there's none of that on this forum. I almost said that with a straight face.

whocares wrote:strange? no way.

That would make it seem like some kind of controversy, and there's none of that on this forum. I almost said that with a straight face.

Big J wrote:Rob also did a few shows in 92 on the DEhumanizer tour...special bill deals where they would have been (technically) opening for Ozzy, and Dio refused.

Those WERE the two final shows on Ozzy's No More Tours Tour. Dio's opinion was that Sabbath should not open for anyone, therefor he would not participate.

November 14 & 15, 1992 were the dates.

The set lists for those two shows were:

* Mob Rules
* Computer God
* Children Of The Sea
* Symptom Of The Universe
* N.I.B.
* Into The Void
* Heaven And Hell
* Supernaut
* Neon Knights
* Children Of The Grave
* Into The Void
* Sweet Leaf

Sabbath joins Ozzy for the following:

* Black Sabbath
* Fairies Wear Boots
* Iron Man
* Paranoid

Just this year, Blackfoot has changed singers mid-tour, with Jay Johnson stepping in for Bobby Barth (Axe) for the past few months.

Glenn Hughes being removed for "substance abuse" is the only one I can think of....

GO check out the Survivor forum! They just put out a new cd..............and have hired a new lead singer..........Journey did it, Styx did it, why not Survivor??!! LOL! I think I need a beer!

I recall Jeff Scott Soto being replaced on tour (Yngwie J. Malmsteen) in '85 or '86 by Mark Boals, who also lip-synced Jeff's vocal for the video of "I'll See The Light Tonight"! I wonder if that was a first. I do know something happened with Boals on tour (or he was canned) and JSS resumed duty in time for shows in Japan (there are some clips on Youtube).

rebelgirl66 wrote:GO check out the Survivor forum! They just put out a new cd..............and have hired a new lead singer..........Journey did it, Styx did it, why not Survivor??!! LOL! I think I need a beer!

What happened to Jimi?

rebelgirl66 wrote:GO check out the Survivor forum! They just put out a new cd..............and have hired a new lead singer..........Journey did it, Styx did it, why not Survivor??!! LOL! I think I need a beer!

I can't believe it!!!

Well that would just suck!

Frankie powertripping again?

whocares wrote:Well that would just suck!

Frankie powertripping again?

"decision to replace Jimi" ... wow ... they fired Jimi. Is no one sacred anymore? All lead singers are just replaceable.

I'm sure glad I got to see him last year (although it was at a local pig fest -- really -- and free to boot).

This is the year for dumped vocalists it seems as it marks the 3rd one I've been aware of this year..

First John Payne of Asia gets dumped in favor of John Wetton (I think they traded up here)

Steve Augeri goes down to voice problems for JSS

Now Jimi Jamison gets dumped ...

Anyone care to start a pool on the next lead vocalist to fall?

siobhan222 wrote:

whocares wrote:Well that would just suck!

Frankie powertripping again?

"decision to replace Jimi" ... wow ... they fired Jimi. Is no one sacred anymore? All lead singers are just replaceable.

I'm sure glad I got to see him last year (although it was at a local pig fest -- really -- and free to boot).

This is the year for dumped vocalists it seems as it marks the 3rd one I've been aware of this year..

First John Payne of Asia gets dumped in favor of John Wetton (I think they traded up here)

Steve Augeri goes down to voice problems for JSS

Now Jimi Jamison gets dumped ...

Anyone care to start a pool on the next lead vocalist to fall?

I hope not Loverboy, then most of my favorite bands will all be totally dismantled! I'm still safe with Night Ranger since they have 2 singers and all seem to be doing pretty good.

I guess if I was betting, I'd say Kansas.

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I guess if I was betting, I'd say Kansas.

First John Payne of Asia gets dumped in favor of John Wetton (I think they traded up here)

Not necessarily. I went to the John Wetton convention a couple of years ago in Allentown, PA
Pics here http://community.webshots.com/album/44343810VSjZRI

He was awful and obviously battling some personal demons at the time. I have heard he sounds much better now, but let's just say the convention was a little less than stellar. They sold DVD and audio recordings of the show there. I have them and it's good for a laugh, and that's about it.

Since then I've seen the Payne led Asia several times and came away very impressed. The last CD "Silent Nation" was very good as well.

I'm a little disappointed in the Asia reunion because I fear the setlist will be basically the first album plus a bunch of ELP and Yes songs (which is kind of what they are saying it will be)

journeygal wrote:

SuiteMadameBlue wrote:I guess if I was betting, I'd say Kansas.

Um, were you joking here? Because they did make a lead singer change, just two months or so ago. Robbie Steinhardt is out and they brought Rags back in (his original replacement, ironically enough). Though he and Steve Walsh both sing lead, Robbie was the one out front. Thankfully, Walsh is still there and singing better than he has in ages.